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Written by Ian Betteridge on 2025-01-26 at 18:19

A conversation which often comes to mind: when a hard-left friend said, prior to 2016, that they hoped Trump would win because it would “stick it to the elites".

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Written by Ian Betteridge on 2025-01-26 at 18:19

I still hear some of the same sentiment today. “Harris lost my vote when X”. She didn't lose your vote: you chose not to do the one thing you could have done to stop the slide into actual, proper fascism.

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Written by Ian Betteridge on 2025-01-26 at 18:19

You didn't vote for Clinton, because she wasn't left enough. And so Roe got overturned. You didn't vote for Harris because she wasn't left enough. And so democracy gets overturned.

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Written by Alfredo on 2025-01-26 at 23:02

@ianb Would anything have changed? Harris was happy supporting genocide.

Democracy was overturned long ago. The mere appearance of democracy is not enough.

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Written by Cameron Purdy on 2025-01-27 at 03:20

@alfredo @ianb My goodness, you do deserve Trump.

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Written by Alfredo on 2025-01-27 at 16:39

@cpurdy @ianb Nobody deserves Trump. But Trump is the result of a failed political system, of which the Democrats are an essential part. Unfortunately it's much easier to wring your hands and whine than to figure out how to build a real democracy.

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Written by Cameron Purdy on 2025-01-27 at 20:11

@alfredo @ianb No way to say this nicely: Your "both sides" nonsense is the cause of why we are here. There's no "both sides" to this. There are simply people who want to serve the public (all across the political spectrum, liberals conservatives whatever), and people who don't. Trump and his ignorant cult following are on the "don't" side of that equation, more akin to nihilists than conservatives. Blaming Democrats for Trumpies being nihilists is both counterproductive and stupid.

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Written by Alfredo on 2025-01-27 at 20:28

@cpurdy @ianb You don't understand what I am saying. It has nothing to do with sides. The underlying political system that allows anyone to capture the government or the judiciary is fatally flawed. We are at a point where it doesn't matter who you vote for.

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Written by Ian Betteridge on 2025-01-28 at 07:32

@alfredo @cpurdy I would very much like you to sit on a military flight with immigrants who are being deported literally in chains and say “it really doesn’t matter who you vote for”. Or to to any trans people serving in the military. Or to any of the countless people that Trump’s victory is already harming.

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Toot

Written by Alfredo on 2025-01-28 at 18:45

@ianb @cpurdy Or maybe spend a night in Gaza.

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Written by Ian Betteridge on 2025-01-28 at 18:50

@alfredo @cpurdy Which, because people didn’t vote for Harris, the people of Gaza now won’t get the chance to do - as the Trump plan is to exile them to Egypt, again. So yeah, maybe ask them if not voting for Harris was “standing with them”.

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Written by Ian Betteridge on 2025-01-28 at 18:52

@alfredo @cpurdy Or maybe you want to have a chat to the 3.9m people - low income families, disabled, pregnant people - who as of 5pm today get no healthcare through Medicaid. Tell them how you’re sorry, but their lives don’t matter.

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