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Written by Ian Betteridge on 2025-01-26 at 18:19

A conversation which often comes to mind: when a hard-left friend said, prior to 2016, that they hoped Trump would win because it would “stick it to the elites".

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Written by Ian Betteridge on 2025-01-26 at 18:19

I still hear some of the same sentiment today. “Harris lost my vote when X”. She didn't lose your vote: you chose not to do the one thing you could have done to stop the slide into actual, proper fascism.

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Written by Ian Betteridge on 2025-01-26 at 18:19

You didn't vote for Clinton, because she wasn't left enough. And so Roe got overturned. You didn't vote for Harris because she wasn't left enough. And so democracy gets overturned.

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Written by Maier Amsden on 2025-01-28 at 11:19

@ianb Democrat leadership repeatedly shits on progressive ideals then blames progressives for noticing that they've been rejected as a constituency by their supposed leaders. Politicians choose their constituency just as voters choose their leaders. It's a matter of priorities. Democrat leaders prioritized warmongering fake progressivism, and so they rejected their anti-war constituents. Conversely, many progressives prioritized their antiwar anti-elitist ideals over practicality.

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Written by Ian Betteridge on 2025-01-28 at 17:00

@MaierAmsden I don’t disagree. But I’m not going to explain to immigrants deported in chains , people denied Medicare, and so that I wasn’t prepared to vote because their interests are not something I care about enough.

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Written by Maier Amsden on 2025-01-28 at 17:41

@ianb Agreed. I also think Democrat leadership shat the bed and continues to shit the bed and won't stop shitting the bed because *they don't have everyone's interests at heart - too busy chasing other narrower ($$$) constituencies. There's no viable progressive party in this country, and that's the heart of our electoral problem. Chiding the people who notice this and vote accordingly doesn't fix it. "We're less shitty than Trump" isn't the winning message some people seem to think it is.

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