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Written by Timnit Gebru (she/her) on 2025-01-27 at 21:18

When I was at Google, I was asking WHY they were interested in building THE LARGEST model. Why?

Why were you going for size?

What function are you trying to achieve?

Why was the thing you were interested in having THE LARGEST model?

Why is the thing you were upset about that you didn't have THE LARGEST model at the time?

They responded by doing me the favor of firing me 🤷🏼

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Written by Pete Bleackley on 2025-01-27 at 21:22

@timnitGebru I have a theory that the costs of building large models create a barrier to entry, and so help corporations maintain market dominance.

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Written by Cassandrich on 2025-01-28 at 01:41

@PeteBleackley @timnitGebru It also makes business for their overpriced data centers and lets you launder money that way.

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Written by {Insert Pasta Pun} on 2025-01-28 at 07:43

@dalias @PeteBleackley @timnitGebru when you have an oversized datacenter hammer, everything starts to look like a nail.

like some AI version of Conway's law

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Written by craignicol on 2025-01-27 at 21:34

@timnitGebru in the current paranoia, they're all going to lose to solutions that you can run locally and don't have to ship to someone else's black box at 100x the cost.

Although Google is at least paying lip service to that with some of their Pixel features.

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Written by Michael Grinder on 2025-01-27 at 22:23

@timnitGebru Twenty-ish years ago, I was teaching CS at a small state college. One weekend the student ACM chapter organized a LAN party in the student union building. Another professor and I went to check on things that evening and found one female student sitting amidst a large group of male students. She had a small 15 inch monitor, while most of the male students had large 20+ inch monitors. She gave us a mischievous grin and said “I'm the only one here not compensating for something.”

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Written by Dieu on 2025-01-27 at 22:34

@timnitGebru you women just don't understand the importance of having the largest.

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Written by Edelruth In The Wrong Timeline on 2025-01-28 at 01:24

@timnitGebru

I'm only just realizing it's a dick thing!

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Written by Cogito ergo mecagoendios on 2025-01-28 at 06:59

@timnitGebru my personal theory is that doing the same thing with more number is a moderately successful strategy for mercenary-minded individuals to climb the ladders, so the entire bay area has self-selected until it's full of the stupidest yes men with PhDs.

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Written by Harry Karadimas on 2025-01-28 at 07:50

@timnitGebru If it t had been called "long language model" it would have been too obvious

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Written by Enkiusz🇺🇦 on 2025-01-28 at 08:26

@timnitGebru you need to own a penis to understand

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Written by Steve Holden on 2025-01-28 at 09:11

@timnitGebru if you don’t go along with the groupthink you never get to climb the greasy pole.🤷

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Written by Cassandrich on 2025-01-28 at 09:19

@timnitGebru 🤏 🍆

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Written by Simon Dassow on 2025-01-28 at 09:21

@timnitGebru How else to show off THE LARGEST ego? Always a shame how that affects others.

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Written by Andrew on 2025-01-28 at 09:38

@timnitGebru my name is ‘Bigus Dickus’

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Written by Jordan Maris 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 #NAFO on 2025-01-28 at 10:03

@timnitGebru It is what we in the industry call a "dick measuring competition"

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Written by Nicolas Delsaux on 2025-01-28 at 10:06

@timnitGebru Everytime someone goes for the bigger, I assume it's a classical toxic masculinity manfiestation ...

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Written by Stewart Sims on 2025-01-28 at 10:08

@timnitGebru yeah it seems like the dumbest thing to just throw resources at it. I've had interactions with people at Microsoft who are convinced ChatGPT will always outperform any more focused form of AI. Rather than build machine learning models tailored at specific problems (taking a scientific approach to evaluating them) they built a generic LLM believing it will somehow spontaneously spawn 'general intelligence' or 'super intelligence' or whatever. It's just magical thinking at scale.

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Written by Rodrigo Santamaría on 2025-01-28 at 11:10

@timnitGebru sad for them! Any ideas why the largest now?

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