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Written by Taylan (Kemalist Turkish Cat) on 2025-01-27 at 08:41

@hj Random question if you don't mind:

With Pleroma, is there an easy solution to the problem that I don't see replies to posts from people who aren't in my known network?

I'd prefer that when I open a post, my instance fetches all replies to it, including replies from people I've never interacted with before.

If there's no simple answer then feel free to ignore. :blobcat-googly-thumbsup:

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Written by Den Datafag Trollmann :flag: on 2025-01-27 at 09:04

@taylan i'm not sure, maybe @lanodan or @lain knows better.

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Written by Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: on 2025-01-27 at 09:15

@hj @taylan @lain When a post is discovered and there's a replies collection attached, it should fetch them all, so when your instance discovers slightly old posts there should be a bunch of replies from otherwise unknowns.

Maybe staff (admins/mods) could have a button to fetch replies again (probably with a cooldown period).

But I feel like it would need to have something like Power Users so on big instances people don't pester staff for things like fetching replies.

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Written by Taylan (Kemalist Turkish Cat) on 2025-01-27 at 09:57

@lanodan @lain @hj

So is the problem that the replies collection is stored as part of the post, initially empty of course, and then not updated again? (Except if a reply reaches my server for some other reason, like me following the replying account.)

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Written by Den Datafag Trollmann :flag: on 2025-01-27 at 09:58

@taylan @lain @lanodan it should be noted that fetching posts takes quite some time and can fail/timeout

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Written by holocene epoch schizoid man on 2025-01-27 at 10:04

@taylan @lain @lanodan @hj your server can only follow replies up the tree to the original post, there's no discovery mechanism for the leaves your server doesn't hold a reference to.

Even if you now receive a post that currently has 100 replies on the original instance, there is no guarantee that you will get those replies.

E: this is probably outdated information, didn't read lanodan post properly

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Written by Taylan (Kemalist Turkish Cat) on 2025-01-27 at 10:17

@eal @lain @lanodan @hj

Well, posts can have a "replies" property it seems, which I assume is what lanodan was talking about as well:

https://www.w3.org/wiki/ActivityPub/Primer/Replies

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Written by Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: on 2025-01-27 at 10:25

@taylan @lain @eal @hj Yeah, eal is too OG for this I guess :P

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Written by lainy on 2025-01-27 at 09:10

@taylan @hj There's no way to get all replies to a thread, sadly. pleroma will automatically fetch all ancestors to whatever post you are seeing on you timeline, tough.

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