Ancestors

Written by Shriram Krishnamurthi on 2025-01-26 at 20:24

Pinker said this of Chomsky, and it perfectly sums up CS Ed (w/ Papert):

Linguistics is an eccentric field…because it was so polarized by a charismatic figure and his opponents that it didn’t proceed in the ordinary direction of making the theory more precise, more testable.

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Toot

Written by David Bremner on 2025-01-26 at 20:28

@shriramk I can't miss a chance to recommend the book "The Charisma Machine" which has a lot to say about the acolytes of Papert.

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Descendants

Written by G. Wozniak on 2025-01-26 at 20:30

@bremner @shriramk Such a good book. I frequently get nasty remarks when I point it out to those who still insist something like the OLPC initiative was a good idea, despite all evidence to the contrary.

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Written by Irene Zhang on 2025-01-26 at 20:32

@gwozniak @bremner @shriramk one of our friends suggested that the OAPC (One Anteater Per Child) initiative would be equally effective.

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Written by David Bremner on 2025-01-26 at 20:36

@irene

Great, now I have FOMA, fear of missing anteater.

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Written by Dan Wallach on 2025-01-26 at 20:38

@irene @gwozniak @bremner @shriramk You want One Anteater Per Child, but it looks like we're getting One AI Per Child. I suspect they'd gain more from the anteaters.

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Written by Shriram Krishnamurthi on 2025-01-26 at 23:39

@irene @gwozniak @bremner

This is too damn brilliant.

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Written by Shriram Krishnamurthi on 2025-01-26 at 23:38

@gwozniak @bremner

I've been recommending the book to everyone I can. Morgan Ames's work is one of my "holy trinity" along with Justin Reich's "Failure to Disrupt" and Audrey Watters's writings.

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Written by Shriram Krishnamurthi on 2025-01-26 at 23:41

@bremner TBH, even better is Morgan Ames's "Hackers, Computers, and Cooperation: A Critical History of Logo and Constructionist Learning":

https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3274287

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