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Written by Wolf480pl on 2025-01-26 at 12:24

Was there ever a concern that Miku would make singers lose their jobs?

I don't think there was....

If not, why? What does Miku (and Vocaloid technology in general) do that makes it not-a-threat and could AI become not-a-threat in a similar manner?

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Written by Sigma on 2025-01-26 at 12:25

@wolf480pl@mstdn.io I think the difference is that Vocaloid just still relies on the creativity of a human. But generative AI largely replaces that.

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Written by beard :meru_dab: on 2025-01-26 at 12:43

@sigmasternchen @wolf480pl if you want a good sounding AI it requires a lot of work on the human's part, just like vocaloids. it's just that AI has a lower barrier of entry.

vocaloid is basically its own genre of music. i see AI being its own genre as well.

as a musician myself, it's hard to be mad at something that led to this.

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Written by Sigma on 2025-01-26 at 12:50

@beardalaxy@gameliberty.club @wolf480pl@mstdn.io Totally agree. I think using AI like synthesizers is totally fine.

The interesting part is: What about stuff like Suno that almost completely removes the creativity from the music making process. Personally I don't know. And the fact I very often just can't tell if a song was AI-generated or not is kinda disturbing. ^^"

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Written by Wolf480pl on 2025-01-26 at 12:56

@sigmasternchen @beardalaxy

hmm so part of the problem is that some of those AI tools can have an unlimited number of voices, while Vocaloid is just a few recognizable ones?

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Written by Sigma on 2025-01-26 at 12:58

@wolf480pl@mstdn.io @beardalaxy@gameliberty.club I don't necessarily think so. Like: A standard synthesizer like Serum also has an unlimited number of voices.

From my perspective it's mainly a question of where the creativity comes from. (And of course the classics, like where the training data comes from, etc.)

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Written by beard :meru_dab: on 2025-01-26 at 13:10

@wolf480pl @sigmasternchen anyone can make a "vocaloid" just like anyone can train an AI on a data set. the existing vocaloids and other voicebanks have their own culture surrounding them and that can affect the decision to use a specific one.

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