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Written by David Monniaux on 2025-01-25 at 15:49

Let me repeat a few points.

1. There are in France tenured research positions that do not have conditions of citizenship (at CNRS, INSERM, INRIA etc.).

The deadline for 2025 has passed at CNRS and INSERM but is February 10 for INRIA. There will (normally) be positions in 2026 too.

Contact groups affiliated with CNRS, INSERM, INRIA that you would like to join in advance, ideally months before the positions are even announced. For 2026, this means contacting them during the Fall, perhaps even before.

I advise you not to wait for the positions to be announced, and not to try to apply alone, without advice and support from people who know how this works.

2. There are temporary positions (post-docs etc). They are advised by labs in addition to centralized sites.

In addition, a lab may create a postdoc position for you if they have funding even if they did not publish a call. Ask people.

3. Professorships may be more difficult because most of them involve teaching in French. In some cases you may argue that you will learn French and they may manage to assign you in the meantime to international programs taught in English.

In addition professorships have something called "qualification", which needs to be done well in advance.

As usual, if you wait for the positions to be announced, it's too late to deal with "qualification" and so on.

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Written by Dr. Victoria Grinberg on 2025-01-25 at 16:30

@MonniauxD hmmmm, but the tenured research positions do, in an unwritten way, require a strong connection to France; at least in my area I haven't seen ppl get them without already established very strong network and a lot of local support and the usual recommendations is to apply 3-5 times before getting it to show growth and commitment. I think it's rather important to not raise expectations. (If different in different areas, I stand corrected.)

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Written by Frédéric Grosshans on 2025-01-25 at 22:06

@vicgrinberg @MonniauxD It doesn't fit with my experience, but as you say it can depend on the field. In the team I work in (6 CNRS researcher, 1 University professor, only 2 of us did their PhD in France, and 2 other did a postdoc here). Our team is a bit an extreme case (I'm the only one out of 7 who was French at the time of hiring), but foreign people (as in "not even a postdoc in France") hired by CNRS is quite common.

What you need to do is to discuss soon with people from your field in France to see how to apply. And do it early: these hiring are typically younger than in other countries. For C?RS computer science, most of the hiring are for people with less than 7 years since the start of their PhD, and all over the las 3 years for 10 years or less.

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Written by Dr. Victoria Grinberg on 2025-01-25 at 22:17

@fgrosshans @MonniauxD I'm glad it's different in other fields! (I'm not on the market myself for a while now, but some of the folks I write rec letters for are now going through the process...)

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