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Written by Paris Marx on 2025-01-25 at 19:56

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Written by StanleyHOOTZZ on 2025-01-25 at 20:09

@parismarx

Is this an "AfD" rally?

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Written by Maxi 10x 💉 on 2025-01-25 at 20:23

@stanleyHootzz Yes, two articles: https://chaos.social/@frumble/113890526122684093

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Written by Johan Sköld on 2025-01-25 at 20:37

@frumble @stanleyHootzz Real question: Is that legal in Germany? Many countries have laws stating that people who aren't citizens or residents can't engage politically.

He'd probably do it regardless... But speaking at a rally would put a lot of weight behind the foreign interference claim. More so than just spewing bullshit in random posts on X.

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Written by Maxi 10x 💉 on 2025-01-25 at 20:41

@rhoot @stanleyHootzz I’m not a lawyer but he isn’t technically engaging when he is just speaking at the AfD party’s campaign event.

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Written by Johan Sköld on 2025-01-25 at 20:52

@frumble @stanleyHootzz By engaging I don't just mean interfering with the vote or getting involved in policies, but also demonstrating, rallying, funding, etc. The actual restrictions differ from country to country.

I'm also not a lawyer (especially not a German one), but speaking at a rally is arguably an attempt to sway a large audience of people politically. Would be interesting to know if that's over the line in Germany.

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Written by Patrick on 2025-01-25 at 22:01

@rhoot @frumble @stanleyHootzz actually there's an important tradition to include views from "outside". I've seen many people on stage from the global south at the rally of the German Greens, government officials from European partner countries, people from international organizations. Limiting political speech only to citizens is dangerous, at least if you have as many neighbors and partners as Germany in the center of Europe. Not having anyone from anywhere else seems quite "American" to me …

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Written by Johan Sköld on 2025-01-25 at 22:18

@patrick @frumble @stanleyHootzz Yeah, that's a fair argument. But it could also be dangerous if you're too open. At some point their influence on voters can become significant enough to sway an election. It's a hard line to draw.

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Written by Patrick on 2025-01-25 at 22:40

@rhoot @frumble @stanleyHootzz well, I am far less concerned about the influence being invited to a party rally. I am much more worried about the influence, Musk's money buys himself anywhere in the world.

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Written by StanleyHOOTZZ on 2025-01-26 at 00:14

@patrick @rhoot @frumble

They are one and same, his words are fron a Fascist Cocksucker who deems himself above the law like his bitch tRUMP and that PIMp-putin. Because we in America-n-wherever this FASCIST bullshit has taken root, will cost us dearly in lives lost 100 times worse than Stalingrad. Mother Mary says we are taking the Looong way around. meaning we's gonna suffer hard fer allowing this bullshit.

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Written by grob 🇺🇦 on 2025-01-26 at 00:12

@rhoot afaik there is a German investigation going on whether Musk's "interview" with one of the AfD's leaders and especially favoring its distribution on X's algorithm constitutes illegal political funding. This might be the case since X is also selling reach. But speaking at rallies I guess will not be investigated. Not sure either.

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Written by Oliver Schafeld on 2025-01-26 at 07:27

»The non-governmental organization LobbyControl assumes that Elon Musk's commitment to the AfD could be an illegal party donation. According to the NGO, the Tesla founder wants to support the right-wing party and is using resources from his Platform X to do so.«

First paragraph, translated:

https://www.zeit.de/politik/2025-01/lobbycontrol-elon-musk-illegale-parteispende

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Written by tessarakt on 2025-01-25 at 22:00

@rhoot @frumble @stanleyHootzz Political parties must not have a majority of non-citizen members or board members, but apart from that, also foreigners may engage in political parties.

Furthermore, parties must not accept donations from non-EU citizens/entities. This is actually investigated now as the algorithmic boost for the Twitter space with Alice Weidel might be considered a donation in kind.

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Written by stephie :betterpride_flag: on 2025-01-25 at 20:24

@stanleyHootzz

Yes. An AfD-Rally in Halle. Start of the campaign for the elections in february.

@parismarx

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Written by StanleyHOOTZZ on 2025-01-25 at 20:38

@stephie_hamburg @parismarx

America went "soft" on Nazis after the Nuremberg trials-n-stopped looking for Nazi war criminals, were it not for Eli Wiesel, there woulda been a lot less brought to justice.

Apparently our being soft on this bullshit mother fucks has resulted in this Fascist pile of "AfD" shit.

The Women of Germany have the Power to stop this shit show in its tracks, as well anywhere else on this Earth, were they to unite.

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Written by stephie :betterpride_flag: on 2025-01-25 at 20:49

@stanleyHootzz

Sadly, the rightwing politics are on the rise in germany too. It's part of the same shit as everywhere and it's billionaires who are funding and supporting this shit. Media & Mainstream parties are pushing the rightwing policies and are very surprised it's helpful for fascists.

The big anti-fascist-rallies last year were mostly ignored by the politicians and most of the media.

@parismarx

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Written by Derick Rethans on 2025-01-25 at 20:49

@stanleyHootzz @parismarx Yes.

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Written by altaVeu :01d: on 2025-01-25 at 20:10

@parismarx El "bigotet"...

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Written by ElGrossKotzo on 2025-01-25 at 20:11

@parismarx

hahahahahaha, elon mit hitlerbart, voll gut getroffen und so ironisch, das wird den rechten bestimmt voll peinlich sein das sie unterstützung vom reichsten alten weissen mann der welt bekommen der auch ein nazi ist.

...ey wir leben hier bald wieder in der rechten braunen gewaltätigen scheisse und ihr habt echt nichts besseres zu tun als euch solche bildchen zu teilen während die nazibanden anfangen leute am hellichten tag zu überfallen?

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Written by Nazar Tokar on 2025-01-25 at 22:20

@parismarx Awesome shot. Aweful person.

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Written by Arthur van der Harg on 2025-01-25 at 23:52

@parismarx Caught my attention right away. Splendid job!

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Written by Camille 🐁 on 2025-01-26 at 01:06

@parismarx

"Stop saying that everybody is calling you a Nazi, it's just a picture" 😉😉😉

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Written by xs4me2 on 2025-01-26 at 01:21

@parismarx

Heil Tesla!

Fuck this South African fascist.

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Written by Pēteris Krišjānis on 2025-01-26 at 02:01

@parismarx I have only one question - do they really think that people are that stupid about what musk really is? How brining him actually helps their plans?

This feels like vanity play. I fully expect it to backfire.

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