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Toot

Written by crows call me breadlady on 2025-01-22 at 17:27

“rebuilding the web we lost”

“back when facebook was good”

ugh. ugh! begone, foul nostalgia! facebook was never good, it was only ever at best useful despite massive social and material costs. the web, from bgp to dns, must be rebuilt for how wretched and covetous their realities are. imagine further, to genuine boons! there is no need to valorize the scraps of profiteers, cory

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Written by crows call me breadlady on 2025-01-22 at 17:30

my issue with cory doctorow is not so much anything i dislike, but that his prestige forbids him from saying anything not fundamentally incrementalist. interop doesn’t work because of IP law? what kind of pirate are you? yet, how could i expect such a public figure to speak out against power so dangerously? he has his own rent to pay.

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Written by crows call me breadlady on 2025-01-22 at 17:37

here’s the article i’m on about. it’s not bad, it’s just…

[#] Enshittification isn't caused by venture capital

https://pluralistic.net/2025/01/20/capitalist-unrealism/

… regulations aren’t what keep profiteers in line. profiteers are produced by a social and economic fabric that must be transformed.

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Written by Moonshine Brigade on 2025-01-22 at 17:43

@garbados i'd rather go back to the days of #MySpace 😉

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Written by Mark T. Tomczak on 2025-01-22 at 20:13

@garbados And much like "Make America Great Again" is an awful slogan, we need to remember, quite clearly: Facebook won because the alternatives were awful. Nobody should target "Making the web great again" as their goal. The web was a nerd hobby project that was downright hostile to people unwilling to devote hours of personal time to research and interpersonal networking getting involved.

People do not want to run their own server. They don't want the headaches, they don't want the downtime, they don't want to care about physical security or issues like "my machine overheated / the hard-drive broke / the electrical storm blew it up..." They definitely don't want consequences for it like "Oh, you thought running your own Mastodon node would be a cute hobby project, now someone got onto your personal desktop machine on the same LAN because they backdoored through your exposed web server into the network behind your router, cracked open your Windows machine on the same LAN, and made off with the contents of your Documents folder. Or cyphered the whole thing and left a Trumpcoin address to send ransom to."

Facebook and its ilk solved a real problem of getting non-technical folks online that wasn't solved before that. Alternatives have to be as simple as using Facebook. Which is a very tall order, but that's the target one has to aim for if one is serious about getting people off the sharecropper web ecosystem.

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