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Written by benjojo on 2025-01-22 at 00:19

Hmmm, did NTT As2914 and Arelion AS1299 depeer in EU? Seemingly everything in the EU between them right now goes via the East Coast USA...

(see examples of London-London going via the US, but seemingly this is also happens FRA-FRA)

Unsure if this is a maintenance, since surely the whole of the EU would not go at once?

Maybe just a misconfig or interesting localpref? Surely that would not happen on both ends though...

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Written by benjojo on 2025-01-22 at 16:08

Yeah seems I was right, from a 1299/Arelion ticket:

We are still connected to NTT in North America, and we're hoping that they will soon revisit their decision. We are awaiting a response from them we hope to hear from them soon.I guess that confirms it. NTT-Arelion have depeered in the EU, traffic between the two will divert around the US for now until they solve their "peering management" issues.

This brings NTT up to two peering disputes, NTT-Cogent and NTT-Arelion are de-peered in the EU as of now.

I also just checked and it seems that Arelion-TATA has been resolved, as they seem peered in the EU once more.

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Written by benjojo on 2025-01-22 at 16:15

If I was going to take a guess (and this is hearsay)

I would assume that that "peering management issues" are probably a euphemism for the similar problems that Cogent have with NTT, and that is that and NTT does not want to peer with the "low cost carriers" in Asia.

Cogent has previously written about their (ongoing) issues with NTT:

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Written by Imogen on 2025-01-22 at 16:13

@benjojo

Seems highly inefficient. It's weird that they wouldn't do cost free peering on the EU side. It's probably a case of someone wants money and someone else doesn't want to pay. Not that they should have to pay for interconnection.

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Written by benjojo on 2025-01-22 at 16:16

@HopelessDemigod More (suspected) context here: https://benjojo.co.uk/u/benjojo/h/2Z7HdFT2F23bB8yt2C

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Written by Wolf480pl on 2025-01-22 at 19:16

@benjojo is this how NTT will downgrade to a "regional Tier 1" ?

Also, why did Telia have to change their name :(

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Written by benjojo on 2025-01-22 at 19:20

@wolf480pl Can't be any worse that what 3356 turned into: Lumen / Colt / Cirion. Or CirCoUmen I think is my nick name for that mess

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Written by Wolf480pl on 2025-01-22 at 19:30

@benjojo 3356? Isn't that Level3?

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Written by benjojo on 2025-01-22 at 20:02

@wolf480pl was Level 3, now it's lumen and 2 other brands

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