Ancestors

Written by Leonard Ritter on 2025-01-20 at 13:21

the feeling i get whenever somebody calls the contents of a public litter-basket "well organized" (which happens never) is the same i get whenever somebody calls capitalism a "system" (which happens a lot)

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Written by Leonard Ritter on 2025-01-20 at 13:28

we don't need to change the system, as there is none. if possible, we need to create one in the first place. it starts with a specification. and the specification starts with a rationale: what are the goals?

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Toot

Written by posniewski on 2025-01-20 at 18:47

@lritter It's an ideology, an "ism", and over time this ideology infected statecraft. This has yielded laws, agencies, armies, and treaties -- a system -- which serve to keep the ideology preeminent. e.g. The idea that stock price ("shareholder value") is the only measure of fitness of a company's decisions is something that would have been thought of as extremely distasteful in 1945. (The Revlon rule is the reason why the Twitter board legally HAD to sell Twitter like it did.)

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Descendants

Written by Leonard Ritter on 2025-01-21 at 00:19

@posniewski "no no, that's no garbage, that's an ideology!" - "but it stinks!" - "the smell is intended!"

it's the texas sharpshooter fallacy

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Written by posniewski on 2025-01-21 at 00:31

@lritter Oh, that ideology is certainly garbage. :-) Just saying that we "systemified the ideology".

Which immediately makes me think of "immanentize the eschaton", and maybe Robert Anton Wilson was channeling this timeline. Has anyone checked on Lake Totenkopf?

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Written by Leonard Ritter on 2025-01-21 at 10:15

@posniewski looks less like a system to me and more like a shoddy quilt of patches

like i said, it's the texas sharpshooter fallacy

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