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Written by Bynkii on 2025-01-17 at 19:38

So setting aside the nonsense of “anyone can run their own instance” because what they always mean is “it’s cheap and vaguely easy” but when the attackers start owning instances not run by the technically astute and overwhelm with a coordinated attack, we all know the response will be to mass guillotine every small instance.

Assuming the providers don’t do it first. It’ll be email attacks all over again.

https://malici.ous.computer/@shellsharks/statuses/01JHN5A9844W3SMPE2A39K0V4J

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Written by Bynkii on 2025-01-17 at 19:41

But this, like every “this is a technical problem” thing, it’s not purely a technological problem and none of this fixes the issues with moderation which drive far more people off of the fedi than any technical issue.

The racism, the misogyny, nothing in “everyone has their own instance” fixes that, and it assumes all new instances are always automatically federated to all existing instances.

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Written by Bynkii on 2025-01-17 at 19:43

But nerds refuse to consider non-technical problems require non-technical solutions, & for the most part, most of these nerds are all male honkies, so none of the social problems actually affect them.

Outside of that, the whole “you never know what you can actually do because your client, your server, the number of crows in your house control how you can actually post” thing doesn’t help.

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Written by Bynkii on 2025-01-17 at 19:46

No chad, people don’t want to cycle servers and clients until they find the one that lets them fuck markdown.

Because even after they do, there’s no way to ensure the people reading your markdown perfection will see it as anything but a wall of unformatted text.

Now we could fix that with, you know, standards, but then how do you be all cool and bespoke?

Once again, techno nerds cannot deal with problems you can’t fix in a shell and a copy of the GPL.

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Written by necrophcodr on 2025-01-17 at 19:48

@bynkii I'm curious as to how you think this problem could be solved then. There's already plenty of standardization going on, but what'd be a non-tech solution here?

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Written by Bynkii on 2025-01-17 at 21:49

@necrophcodr for format standards, well, actually talking to each other, forming a standards body that includes a variety of people so it’s not just OMG MARKDOWN IS ALL ANYONE NEEDS, because markdown kinda fucking sucks, but that one is actually more of a technical issue.

The moderation problems? The technical aspects of it are small.

None of the problems the fediverse has can be solved via a purely technical lens.

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Written by necrophcodr on 2025-01-17 at 21:55

@bynkii I'm not disagreeing with you on any of this. I'm asking what do you propose as a non-tech solution.

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Written by Wraithe on 2025-01-17 at 22:18

@necrophcodr @bynkii Not speaking for John, but the non-technical solution (IMO) is moderation. By paid people, whose job is to moderate, who are provided with the proper tools to do their job. (both technical & guidelines)

https://bsky.app/profile/rahaeli.bsky.social (one of the co-founders of Dreamwidth) has much to say on the subject of moderation (just search her posts on moderation) and she has both the background and experience to know what she’s talking about.

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