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Written by John Gruber on 2025-01-14 at 14:28

The EU sacked its crusading grandstanding duo of Margrethe Vestager and Thierry Breton before the U.S. election, so it’s not entirely or even mostly about Trump. They’re just coming to their senses that a radical DMA interpretation isn’t going to change these companies, it would just turn the EU into more of a technological backwater than it already is.

https://www.techmeme.com/250114/p1#a250114p1

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Written by iDanMart on 2025-01-14 at 14:42

@gruber So Apple and the rest of the American tech companies so just be allowed to do whatever they want free of any regulation because??? I agree the DMA hasn’t been perfect, but it has proven that Apple will refuse to enact any meaningful change on their own terms least it risk losing it’s sweet 30% cut or god forbid only $79 Billion in profit instead of $80 Billion.

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Written by John Gruber on 2025-01-14 at 16:03

@RicardoDanielMartinez What are you talking about? Apple spent the entire year building compliance features. The EU now has alternative app stores and sideloading and alternative payments. It's just that almost no users actually want them so few use them, other than to play Fortnite.

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Written by iDanMart on 2025-01-14 at 18:12

@gruber So your argument is that because few people use these features, that they shouldn’t even be a choice to begin with? Oh but yes, let’s give Apple a round of applause for implementing all these features, only after they dragged their feet kicking and screaming every time the EU said they needed to actually do the bare minimum and not what Apple wanted. Why are you so against Apple actually having to compete in an open and fair market? 1/2

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Written by John Gruber on 2025-01-15 at 03:00

@RicardoDanielMartinez There aren’t any other phones on the market where you live? Only iPhones?

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Written by iDanMart on 2025-01-15 at 04:36

@gruber Really? I’d hardly call this Duopoly of Android & iOS an ideal situation. Especially since Google was found guilty of many things (Which includes maintaining their Play Store dominance through illegal means) that Apple is being excused of doing themselves by an AMERICAN JURY in an AMERICAN COURT. I promise John, these Trillion Dollar Plus companies don’t need any knight in shining armor to come to their rescue or defense. https://apnews.com/article/google-epic-games-antitrust-trial-android-app-store-dd6b26be7447b5ff8cc0d20a4d01b6b4

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Written by John Gruber on 2025-01-15 at 05:46

@RicardoDanielMartinez I’ve been saying all along the EU should fund the creation of its own new open mobile platform.

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Written by iDanMart on 2025-01-15 at 22:08

@gruber You know exactly why that won’t happen, & quite frankly it’s beneath you to even suggest such a idiotic solution, seriously or not. It baffles me that you are so opposed to regulating these companies that only care about their stock price & how much they can squeeze out of every customer & developer. The DMA is not perfect, but to choose to be completely blind to what it has forced Apple to do, which is to compete on more level playing field, is wrong & does a disservice to your readers.

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Descendants

Written by John Gruber on 2025-01-16 at 03:47

@RicardoDanielMartinez Whatvare you talking about? What competitors have been helped by this? None of the changes are even available outside the EU. The one and only company that’s been helped by the DMA is Epic, a company that cheats children out of money.

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Written by iDanMart on 2025-01-16 at 06:23

@gruber So the App Store policy change regarding Game Emulators like Delta was nothing? The ONLY reason that happened was because Apple could no longer pretend that the market didn’t exist & was a legitimate one that iOS users clearly did want. Last time I checked Apple cheats just as, if not more children & adults on the App Store by way of allowing any “Free” game to be hosted & downloaded so long as they get a healthy cut of the in-game transactions. It’s literally Casino Games for children.

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