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Written by Andy Wingo on 2025-01-14 at 12:49

my four stages of ineffective systems research practice:

  1. gosh there is just so much to know! gotta dive in ðŸĪŊ (possibly fizzle out here)

  1. ok i have an idea, let's build this thing!! 🚀 (possibly fizzle out here)

  1. hey that was interesting, let's keep going until i fully understand the space! 😅 (possibly fizzle out here)

  1. that was fun, but writing up things is a drag, what if we implement something else instead? ðŸĪŠ (repeat from step 1)

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Written by Andy Wingo on 2025-01-14 at 13:19

aaah i forgot one aspect, which is to be too involved in whatever step i am on to help anyone else on their thing. very important practice, this

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Written by CF Bolz-Tereick on 2025-01-14 at 13:22

@wingo I'm in this picture and I don't like it. I've just decided that blogging is enough ðŸĪ·â€â™€ïļ

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Written by Andy Wingo on 2025-01-14 at 13:27

@cfbolz blogging is indeed enough :) i am just thinking that this year i would like to do things a little differently and am trying to remind myself that other ways of working are possible ;)

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Written by Hisham on 2025-01-14 at 14:38

@wingo @cfbolz I'm not in academia anymore, but I like Simon Peyton-Jones's take where you do the research as a process of writing the paper: https://www.cis.upenn.edu/~sweirich/icfp-plmw15/slides/peyton-jones.pdf

I never had the chance to actually try that, but it sounds intriguing and I can see how it could guide the research process to be more effective (as thoughts always get clearer as we put them to paper).

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Written by CF Bolz-Tereick on 2025-01-14 at 16:54

@hisham_hm @wingo I know that approach, and I quite like that it forces you to also write something about experiments that end up not working.

but it never really made sense to me personally: it stresses writing over building, and I ultimately like building stuff much more than writing.

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