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Written by Snow on 2025-01-13 at 17:35

I should just go back to paying a server provider to host my stuff. Thought I would be saving money but omg power and failing hardware is expensive

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Written by Anthropy :verified_dragon: on 2025-01-13 at 17:39

@snow i mean if you buy dell enterprise hardware with enterprise parts sure, nothing really wrong with running a webserver on a second hand NUC or one of those small office PCs. Though while you're using enterprise hardware you could consider buying ECC dimms second hand, they'll let you know when they're broken anyway, only issue is dell might reject the parts because dell is like the apple of enterprise servers @@ would have to look up to make sure the parts work for your machine

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Written by Odoben on 2025-01-13 at 17:55

@anthropy @snow I second the NUC method. Or even better, a bunch of (maybe even cluster of) low-power boards with no moving parts :dragn_thinkhappy:

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Written by Snow on 2025-01-13 at 17:56

@odoben @anthropy Well I'm thinking of getting a raspberry pie since they're doing 16 gig models now

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Written by Odoben on 2025-01-13 at 17:58

@snow @anthropy I haven't tried going the ARM route yet so I have no idea how good software support is. But one thing I can say is I absolutely adore low-power ITX boards. Some even come with DC power jacks so they're almost like SBCs but with swappable memory:

https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/N100DC-ITX/

If I didn't want my NAS to be upgradable to fill all 5 HDD slots then I'd probably have chosen this board.

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Written by Anthropy :verified_dragon: on 2025-01-13 at 18:02

@odoben @snow also a good option, but let me try find some examples of second hand small formfactor dell optiplex or hp whatever, let me get to my desk first

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Written by Odoben on 2025-01-13 at 18:03

@anthropy @snow Don't those use very specific kinds of fans that are prone to failing? :blobfoxmelt:

Source: experience with my NUC

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Written by Snow on 2025-01-13 at 18:04

@odoben @anthropy Yeah I've tried using Dell optiplexes before and I refuse to use them because it kept complaining about the rear exhaust fan and every time I restarted it it would make me go to the keyboard to bypass it

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Written by Anthropy :verified_dragon: on 2025-01-13 at 18:12

@snow @odoben hmm, haven't had that problem myself before, mostly with laptops, though you could always go jank mode and open it up and just connect a normal desktop fan to it instead :P

but even if we're talking slightly bigger second hand office desktops you'd still usually find amazing deals for like 70$, with normal off the shelf fans you could replace for 5$

here for example, assuming USA: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=office+pc&_sacat=0

they'd be easy to upgrade too, and power usage would still be like 20-70w

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Written by Anthropy :verified_dragon: on 2025-01-13 at 18:19

@snow @odoben though I'd of course, regardless of purchase, first investigate what the reviews are for a specific mini tower office PC and if it has any weird quirks.

That low power board from before should also be a fine option, although then you're limited to a single dimm slot.

Personally, my home setup consists of a Ryzen 3600 with a fairly standard B450 mobo, those are also not super expensive and in my specific case I'm using around 50-80w, still about 1/10th of the dell server I guess.

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Written by Snow on 2025-01-13 at 18:22

@anthropy @odoben For now I think I'm just gonna go the renting route so I can slowly rebuild my home lab. The best route for me I think would be just building the PCs I'm gonna as servers

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Written by Anthropy :verified_dragon: on 2025-01-13 at 18:24

@snow @odoben I suppose it's never a truly terrible option, especially since you can quit any time. I am also renting a fairly big hetzner server, mainly because I'm still waiting for the fiber to the home I was promised 3 years ago and my upload is like 120mbit at best, so I'm mostly just keeping my offsite backups at home and doing any heavy lifting that doesn't require bandwidth using my local machinery.

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Written by Snow on 2025-01-13 at 18:26

@anthropy @odoben Honestly I would kill for a upload speed better than 20MB. Supposedly there's fiber coming to my area soon but that's what they've been saying every year I just wish Comcast didn't have a monopoly with my landlord

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