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Written by Eugenia L on 2025-01-10 at 11:49

Every panel applet on #Cosmic takes about 33 MB of RAM each, resulting to Cosmic using 2.4 GB of RAM on a cold boot. That is excessive for a brand new, "clean" DE, and on par with #Windows (that has a history of 40 years that needs to carry with it).

I honestly don't understand why it's like that. Most people try #Linux on their older PCs, or a main PC that isn't #Windows11 -capable. Cosmic is just out of their reach for many of potential new users.

[#]opensource #foss #pop_os #popos #system76

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Written by Simon Justesen on 2025-01-10 at 11:55

@eugenialoli It's still in alpha. Don't expect everything to be optimized just yet (but other than that yes, RAM usage should be looked into).

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Written by Eugenia L on 2025-01-10 at 11:57

@simonjust This is an excuse I'm afraid and not in line with software engineering. To reduce RAM in this case, you'd need to re-architect part of it, and that would result in major new bugs. These changes needed to be done BEFORE we entered these public releases.

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Written by Simon Justesen on 2025-01-10 at 14:11

@eugenialoli "Not in line with software engineering"? Show me a properly engineered system with no bugs. They only exist in books :blobgrin:

People have been arguing about how to do software engineering right for years, and no one does it. Not even those that are paid billions to do it.

I don't think Cosmic was intended to run on older, low-end machines in the first place. I think the target is to have it running on System76 PCs (8GB RAM baseline) and the rest is just a bargain

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Written by Eugenia L on 2025-01-10 at 14:18

@simonjust Look at the other reply here, the link shows where it doesn't fit on 8 GB of ram if the user has too many fonts or icon packs installed. Yes, you read that correctly..

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Written by Simon Justesen on 2025-01-10 at 14:24

@eugenialoli The link is missing, but yes if that's the case, there's clearly something wrong.

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Written by Eugenia L on 2025-01-10 at 14:32

@simonjust here it is https://github.com/pop-os/cosmic-applets/issues/723#issuecomment-2575978172

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Written by Michael A. Murphy :system76: on 2025-01-10 at 18:05

@eugenialoli If you read the issue then you'd understand it's not an architectural issue. Just a matter of some libraries needing more optimization work. Again, there's a lot of areas that can be optimized, and we'll get to them before the release. So I'd advise against making blanket judgements today as if this is the way things are always going to be.

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Written by Eugenia L on 2025-01-10 at 18:06

@mmstick Fixing the caching issue still won't get you below 1.5 GB of ram on a cold boot. It's only part of the issue.

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Written by Michael A. Murphy :system76: on 2025-01-10 at 18:08

@eugenialoli Cold boot is already less than 1 GB right now. And it'll be even lower once we finish building app and applet updates from the recently-merged FontSystem optimization from this morning.

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Written by Eugenia L on 2025-01-10 at 18:09

@mmstick Over here gnome-system-monitor and top reports 2.4 GB. How do you get the 1 GB?

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