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Written by Magnus Manske on 2025-01-10 at 10:53

Would it be legal to use this set of ISBNs on Toolforge/Wikidata? Not sure how they got it, but IIRC IDs and names are not copyrightable?

https://annas-archive.org/blog/all-isbns.html

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Written by Magnus Manske on 2025-01-10 at 10:56

As with all copyright "is it legal" questions, the answer is probably "no" because shareholder value...

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Written by Nemo_bis 🌈 on 2025-01-10 at 12:28

@magnusmanske Usual issue... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Database_Rights

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Written by Magnus Manske on 2025-01-10 at 13:35

@nemobis

Probably, though Anna won't mind, and the source databases have been amalgamated so maybe dB copyright doesn't apply?

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Written by Nemo_bis 🌈 on 2025-01-10 at 14:22

@magnusmanske Maybe. If Anna's DB is "original enough" (in DB rights sense, which is not the same as copyright law threshold of originality) then Anna would own DB rights on it. I imagine at some point ISBNdb https://isbndb.com/blog/isbn-lookup/ or someone else will come forward and claim actually Anna's DB is theirs, whether true or not?

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Written by raffaele on 2025-01-10 at 16:09

@nemobis @magnusmanske I think ISBNdb already claimed

and got it removed

https://annas-archive.org/datasets

https://github.com/atomotic/isbndb-sqlite

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Written by Nemo_bis 🌈 on 2025-01-10 at 17:02

@raffaele Dammit, we can never have nice things like your repo. :(

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Written by Nemo_bis 🌈 on 2025-01-10 at 17:12

@raffaele BTW I don't remember what your repository contained but the DMCA notice is obviously bogus. There's no international copyright on a list of titles and ISBN codes. A DMCA counternotice ought to succeed, but better leave that task to someone with deeper pockets residing in the USA.

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Written by raffaele on 2025-01-11 at 08:43

@nemobis It was just a stupid script to load the json dump into SQLite https://gist.github.com/atomotic/983feb36dc6c9e03c0ee9a0c432c7420

no data was saved into the repo, just a link to annas-archive torrent

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Written by Nemo_bis 🌈 on 2025-01-11 at 08:53

@raffaele Right, so it's one of those supposed "contributory infringement" notices. Very sketchy, but unfortunately so common I wouldn't bet on a counternotice to suffice.

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Written by Arthur Smith on 2025-01-10 at 12:52

@magnusmanske I am pretty sure this would be fine to use - it's not a selective list, it's like a phone directory, which is not subject to copyright.

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