Facebook did not have an over-censorship problem. Facebook main problem was that its algorithms promote hate speech and disinformation, lately with the addition of inauthentic content. Fighting that through fact-checking is always going to be an uphill battle.
This is the reason I believe that content algorithms have no place in social media and that user profiling should be banned. Spreading misinformation and hate speech is a lot harder without the amplification algorithms.
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@jon He can say what he wants, hopefully nobody (except people who are already lost and the others bad guys) will be fooled about that.
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The question I would pose is this: Are social media platforms common carriers, without liability for their transmitted content, but also enjoined from snooping, selling ads, discriminating based on speech content.
Or are they publishers, who own their content, are legally responsible for it, can make editorial choices based on editorial policy, and can monetize the content?
It seems to me they have been trying to have it both ways since the litigation over section 230 of the CDA.
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Seems to me that if the platforms want to claim they are common carriers like the telephone company and not publishers like the newspaper, they should not he able to promote certain content at the expense of others.
I think I'd like to see a ban on content promotion algorithms take the form of "If you promoted defamatory content or false advertising etc then you are liable for it. Your Secrion 230 exemption from liability depends on your content neutrality."
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To me there is just the question whether it is OK for companies to build profiles on you based on what you view on their platform. That profile is later used to select content and to show ads. If you ban that, you have solved a lot of problems.
I think any benefits from this user profiling is at best questionable and I question why it has been OK at all ever to do this.
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I agree, people just share content. A game changer will be more people learn critical thinking and apply, I guess this is going to be easier said than done under Trump.
Algorithms and posts that are AI generated are going to really hamper these efforts.
I will share a link to Critical Thinking Web, as it seems appropriate to do so.
https://philosophy.hku.hk/think/
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Thank you for calling them "content algorithms" rather than just algorithms.
It gets so annoying when people talk about algorithms as if all algorithms are evil. All software is algorithms, anyone who thinks algorithm are a bad thing should go join the Amish.
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The algorithms don't help, but even without them it's going to be an uphill battle still.
Here on Mastodon there is a lot of mis-information, disinformation and the same non-sense that I see on just about every other platform. Maybe not as amplified without the algorithms.
I think I'll go and post about how I run dnf upgrade today.
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I see very little misinformation here.
Most of what I see is in my feed and I have chosen what is in my feed. That is not the case on Facebook.
The point is that Facebook amplifies misinformation and hate speech. The impact of that is a lot more than people maybe realize. If they did not decide what shows up in my feed and I would just see posts from those that are my friends and that I follow, things would be very different.
These popularity algorithms are also just very easily gamed and they are. If you have them, you will see this impact.
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Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it's not real or not happening. That's what I am getting at. And that can be dangerous in of itself.
I quit Facebook in 2015 so I am not sure what it is like there anymore. The reason I quit was because of the clear gamification of the content. It became unreal and just a strive to be the most popular regardless of reality.
It is strange how Facebook which was supposed to be a community is now launching AI users to interact with people, because the platform is so toxic no one wants to interact.
Hate really is the low hanging fruit. Facebook is just taking advantage of the revenue stream. People are inherently dumb. Education should be where the resources go at this.
I just today responded to a misinformation post. Intent and context are key though. Their intent wasn't misinformation (at least I don't think it was) and they left out considerable amount of context to completely understand what they were trying to say.
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@jon @eff i can hardly believe people are still being used by facebook. Thank you for this instance of mastodon.
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