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Written by Pauline von Hellermann on 2025-01-05 at 17:11

[#]ClimateDiary Ok this may come across as privileged conplaining - i mean, i have a feeling it does, whixh is kind of indicative in itself, because really it shouldn’t:

we just got our first #EV and whilst waiting to have our own charger installed (which is expensixe and you need to have off-road parking space), we are using public charging points and: the infrastructure here in the UK is crap! It’s either very very slow (like these ones in a local car park (also flooded, inside, today) 1/3

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Written by Pauline von Hellermann on 2025-01-05 at 17:18

[#]ClimateDiary #EV 2/3 like 36 hours for a 80% charge (2kw/h); or it’s extremely expensive. As in 2x more expensive than petrol.

I am not surprised that the take up has been so much slower than was hoped. The whole “it’s only for rich people” critique is very valid: it only makes any kind of economic sense if you can charge at home, which exlcudes many. It’s really crap and depressing in itself.

Now bracing myself for no doubt many responses pointing out that #EVs are not the solution.

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Written by Pauline von Hellermann on 2025-01-05 at 17:19

[#]ClimateDiary #EV #EVs

3/3 Yes, I KNOW. I have read a lot about it; have had students doing dissertations about #EVs; i am aware of environmental and social costs of production. Etc.

I personally hate all cars. If it were up to me we wouldn’t have one at all. But i am not the only one in this family and so we do. An #EV is a kind of compromise.

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Written by Graham Freeman on 2025-01-05 at 17:30

@pvonhellermannn My hope - and it's purely hope, not something I've researched - is that growing adoption of EVs by wealthier people will shift culture and economics enough that some people lessen or eliminate their car dependency (because EVs prompted them to rethink & take action), while others shift from fossil to electric as economies of scale improve. I've seen that culture shift here in California, and I'm somewhat optimistic it's playing out elsewhere too.

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Written by Graham Freeman on 2025-01-05 at 17:34

@pvonhellermannn But yep, I sympathize re the rough edges. I started out unable to charge my EV at home, since I lived in an apartment, and had to depend on a then-sparse public charging network. I enjoyed the challenge, for the most part, but it was a challenge. These days almost anywhere I would consider going by car has a robust charging infrastructure, and highest pricing is still competitive with driving/fueling a hybrid fossil electric.

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Written by Pauline von Hellermann on 2025-01-05 at 17:37

@graham_freeman thank you for all this! Reallybuseful to know. I have a feeling the UK might be particularly bad, somehow, with high prices for fast charging.

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