Each of these LLMs has a (roughly) $20/month subscription plan - which one do you use or recommend? Best value and future prospects for the money in your opinion?
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@TTimo This is a ragebait for fediverse users, right?
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@TTimo I'll go for either Bixby Bintelligence, or Huawei Huawisdom.
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@TTimo As far as I know Copilot also has Claude Sonnet as one of the models you can choose with it. (not sure if you need to pay more or not)
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@hojjat yeah I guess Copilot is mostly Claude in different clothing. The Copilot web UI seems worse to me though, but I like that it puts web links in it's answers, which the others don't seem to immediately do.
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@hojjat actually I was wrong .. I think the Microsoft stuff uses OpenAI .. so ChatGPT, not Claude but same idea
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@TTimo Yeah. But they did add claude sonnet recently too: https://www.anthropic.com/news/github-copilot
Unfortunately I haven't been able to get it to work in Nvim, but in vscode you can choose it from a drop down menu apparently.
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@TTimo I use Jan ui locally by using mostly free models and occasionally switching to Copilot, my monthly expenses dropped.
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@TTimo kagi is a good deal too
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@lain oh that's https://help.kagi.com/kagi/ai/assistant.html .. never heard of it, that's interesting
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@TTimo @lain
(have been recommending Kagi even before I was a consultant for them, disclaimer).
But yeah, Kagi Ultimate makes a lot of sense. It's not perfect when compared to having some of these llm's directly. But considering you're getting the best search engine included, the price is hard to argue against.
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@thibaultmol @lain fwiw I've been playing with kagi for a few days now and I notice the same problem: https://kagifeedback.org/d/2093-quick-answer-follow-up-questions-assistant-integration
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@thibaultmol @lain plus you have to pay for the plan first to get access to the assistant and have some opportunity to see how it is able to continue the conversation.
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@TTimo @lain personally I just upgraded for one month to try it out and then stuck with it. But yeah, I feel you.
I should mention that in the New year's celebration live stream they did mention that the lower tier plans are also going to get some basic level of access to the assistant iirc
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@TTimo @lain and about this specific feedback item.
In general I never really use the 'continue in assistant' button. Currently a basically just opens the URL in the assistant and that's it... It doesn't actually work with the input you saw in quick answer.
So if I know that I'll probably prefer ai for a question, I'll just ask it in the assistant directly.
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@TTimo @lain Do note that as a non-assistant tier subscriber you do have access to fastgpt https://kagi.com/fastgpt it's not as good as the actual assistant, but it should come included with your plan, so there's that
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@TTimo I have voted by choosing none.
https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/113701656729629952
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@TTimo really needs a “none of the above” :)
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@glyph yeah that's my bad. There's a sizeable anti AI crowd on the fedi of course, but I didn't anticipate them to be so virtue signaling about it.
I'll probably just use a content warning tag moving forward.
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@TTimo I am certainly a part of the "anti-AI" crowd but just for the purposes of this poll — avoiding any normative "virtue signaling" statements — these services all strike me as quite bad value for money. To the extent that I would want to use a model, I would want something I can run locally.
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@TTimo I've only used ChatGPT and Gemini. I would have chosen ChatGPT. It's far superior to Gemini when it comes to coding. Gemini gives very poor solutions and gives up easily when trying to work with it to fix an issue. ChatGPT just keeps on trying until you get what you want. It feels more like a collaboration, like chatting to a friend in work. I tried Gemini again recently too see if it had improved but no.
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@druid yes, regarding code I had observed that ChatGPT seemed better overall. I don't use the LLMs as code assistants much atm, but mostly as web search helpers. Based on the discussions in this thread I went with @kagihq and it's been a very nice experience.
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@TTimo @kagihq I hadn't heard of Kagi before. Good to know.
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