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Written by Steve Sawczyn on 2025-01-04 at 18:47

I'm going to try setting up Windows virtually on my Mac, but depending on how that goes, any recommendations for Windows machines? Ideally laptop, just doing typical browsing/email/office, nothing that should require tons of processing power.

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Written by Al Puzzuoli on 2025-01-04 at 18:57

@SteveSawczyn I've had really good luck with refurbished Thinkpads. I got this one for my dad a few months ago. $300 for a machine with 16 Gigs of ram, a 512 gig SSD and a processor capable of running Windows 11: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BDGB49KW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8

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Written by Jason J.G. White on 2025-01-04 at 21:47

@alpuzz @SteveSawczyn Is it generally better to buy new machines and make them last as long as possible, or to buy older systems and upgrade them more frequently, at the risk of more hardware failures? I've mostly done the former. Machines tend to last 7-8 years, possibly more, before I really have a strong reason to upgrade. Of course, some people really do need the latest performance, and for them, there's only one option. I once bought a workstation-class desktop machine that had served as a demonstration device for a year. The discount was considerable, and the hardware was in excellent condition.

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Written by Al Puzzuoli on 2025-01-04 at 21:53

@jason @SteveSawczyn For me, it depends on a combination of personal preference and the scenario you're dealing with. if you're a content creator, a computer programmer, an avid gamer, etc, then you might legitimately need the latest and greatest specs. If not, and your goal is to have a reliable machine for day to day office work and web browsing, refurbished machines, especially business grade ones such as Thinkpads are excellent bargains for various reasons such as:

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Written by Al Puzzuoli on 2025-01-04 at 21:55

@jason @SteveSawczyn Business class machines are generally built to better spec than consumer grade machines. They often have better keyboards, are more serviceable, and more durable than their consumer grade counterparts. If you get refurbished ones from reputable sellers, they're often in excellent condition. Lightly used in a corporate setting and now off lease after a couple years of sitting at a desk.

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Written by Al Puzzuoli on 2025-01-04 at 21:56

@jason @SteveSawczyn They might not have the latest and greatest components, but I would argue that for day to day use, you're probably getting 90 to 95% of the performance you would get from a new machine that would probably cost several times over what you pay for the refurb. So even if you want to upgrade to a new refurb in a couple years, you're still ahead in terms of dollars.

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