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Written by Ika Makimaki on 2025-01-03 at 01:21

I'm sure there's an untapped market for "Dumb" tech. Bonus points for repairable, dumb tech.

No AI assistants, no Internet connection, no DRM or login needed.

Just a toaster that makes toast, a TV that plays only what you put in it, with repair kits, spare parts available, easy to reach guts and accessible schematics, diagrams and instructions.

I know I'd buy no other brands if just one offered that to me.

[#]repairability #RightToRepair #DumbTech

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Written by Camilo on 2025-01-03 at 01:43

@pezmico i remember asking around about tvs w/o internet connected features and the reply was those TVs they sell to like buildings in bulk but they're actually quite expensive when you aren't a building

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Written by Ika Makimaki on 2025-01-03 at 02:31

@cam same!

I was told my best option to find a non-smart TV was to keep an eye on the auction sites where liquidated businesses put their stuff in to cover their loses.

Sorta like this one:

https://www.number8.bid/

I didn't because I got a hand-me-down from someone who left the country. But the option stuck with me.

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Written by Camilo on 2025-01-03 at 02:46

@pezmico i have literally kept the same exact 1080p tv since i bought it in like 2011 lol

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Written by Scott M. :mstdn: on 2025-01-03 at 07:14

@cam @pezmico smart. The New TVs are much cheaper because they collect and sell your data and insert their own ads.

An older TV with a Fire Stick (even better, with a Fire Stick with adguard on it) is a much nicer experience

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Written by FoolishOwl on 2025-01-03 at 17:58

@Hiker_Scott @cam @pezmico My "smart TV" no longer supports some streaming services, and I figure the way around it is to connect my laptop to one of the HDMI ports.

Which suggests to me that in general the alternative to a Smart TV is a computer monitor attached to a computer, particularly a Linux box with some media library management software.

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Toot

Written by Camilo on 2025-01-03 at 18:12

@foolishowl @Hiker_Scott @pezmico Yea I've considered that too, though monitors are usually smaller and a little diffferent picture-wise from a TV (though I don't remember exactly how). Also no built in speaker usually.

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Descendants

Written by Scott M. :mstdn: on 2025-01-03 at 18:14

@cam @foolishowl @pezmico

Unless something has changed recently, most new TVs come with a really really crappy speaker. I bought a cheap sound bar probably over a decade ago and it still has better audio than my parents very expensive TV.

The big thing with the monitors is that they are expensive, partly because of the fact that they don't collect your data and sell it.

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Written by FoolishOwl on 2025-01-03 at 18:24

@Hiker_Scott @cam @pezmico Yeah, I was excited to buy a monitor with a built-in speaker, then found the speaker was horribly bad. It was easy enough to attach external speakers, though.

The last monitor I bought was about $100, though it's much smaller than smart TVs usually are.

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Written by Camilo on 2025-01-03 at 18:31

@foolishowl can't tell if this is AI slop but it was pretty informative

https://smarthomeowl.com/difference-between-tv-and-monitor/

edit: and owl themed lol

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Written by FoolishOwl on 2025-01-07 at 13:58

@cam Last night I was sitting on the couch with my laptop, and looked uo and noticed that in my field of vision the edges of the television lined up with the laptop.

In other words, the big TV just means I'm sitting farther away. There's no actual advantage to it. Not for viewing by myself, anyway.

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Written by Saul Pwanson on 2025-01-07 at 16:41

@foolishowl @cam Varying focal distance is easier on your eyes, at least for comfort and possibly for their function. You probably won't notice until your 40s though. By then you'll hopefully have someone to watch things with :)

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Written by FoolishOwl on 2025-01-07 at 18:06

@saulpw @cam I'm 53, and I was trying to figure out what to do with the smart TVs people left behind.

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Written by Saul Pwanson on 2025-01-07 at 18:20

@foolishowl @cam and you can still watch TV on your laptop, after using a laptop all day? I'm not yet 50 and I can't do it anymore.

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Written by FoolishOwl on 2025-01-07 at 18:24

@saulpw @cam Well, I don't watch TV much, but I'm using my laptop for other things.

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