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Written by Robert Kist 🇦🇹 🇸🇬 on 2025-01-03 at 01:36

Serious question: I feel like there's a lot of activity on Amiga OS 4.0, but that's limited to PPC, no? Are there really that many PPC machines, compared to 68k, or does it just have a super active community? Also, it seems Amiga OS 4.0 doesn't run on more readily available hardware like G4 Mac Minis?

(asking as a A3000 68k owner who never dabbled into Amiga PPC)

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Written by nivs on 2025-01-03 at 01:45

@kwramm That’s basically it regarding availability and compatibility, as I understand it. 4.x used to run on 68k but not any more.

However, the 68k / 3.x scene is very active, and it seems to me more so than 4.x, but I don’t know for sure.

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Written by Jope on 2025-01-03 at 02:11

@nivrig @kwramm 4.0 never ran on 68k, but it is possible to run it on a classic machine with a ppc accelerator. Most OS4 installs are on bespoke AmigaOne/Micro-A1 style machines.

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Written by nivs on 2025-01-03 at 02:30

@jope @kwramm Ah, I knew it ran on classics at one point, but not the PPC requirement.

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Written by BatteMan on 2025-01-03 at 10:36

@nivrig @jope @kwramm In very first stages, 2000-2001, OS4 beta was 68k for purpose tests (when it was only show in some events. I saw it at the Alchimie 2 in 2002 : http://lamersphotos.free.fr/index.php?page=image&gal=alchimie2&start=4, very blury photo ^^).

But it was never released in 68k for users, only PPC.

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Written by Daniel on 2025-01-03 at 04:56

@kwramm

The problem of AmigaOS 4 is, that for quite some time, the operating system has not been updated. So, yes, an active community tries to fill that gap by developing software. But this takes some time...e.g. there is a browser project, a WebKit port:

https://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2023-07-00037-EN.html

Additionally to native hardware like AmigaOne X5000 (very expensive) or A1222 Plus, you can also run it on QEMU:

https://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2023-08-00063-EN.html

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Written by Robert Kist 🇦🇹 🇸🇬 on 2025-01-03 at 05:13

@Amiga_News thanks. Didn't know that QEMU can run it.

Although, it really seems like a very niche thing.. even the A1222 isn't exactly cheap :/ (well, it is probably adequately priced given it's no random off-the shelf PC though)

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Written by Daniel on 2025-01-03 at 14:12

@kwramm

Then there is still another option: the Sam460LE boards:

https://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2023-10-00039-EN.html

But also those ones aren't actually cheap...;)

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Written by Robert Kist 🇦🇹 🇸🇬 on 2025-01-03 at 14:29

@Amiga_News interesting. But it kinda feels weird to me. As if those machines aren't real Amigas, but some distant relative. Any original Amiga software is emulated. They don't have any hardware in common - maybe the PPC chip that was available on some high-end accelerator cards. And they run an OS that, except for those few Amigas with those rare PPC cards, never really ran on any other original Amiga hardware. ... although it's cool that the OS still traces its roots back to the old 68k one

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