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Written by Erwin on 2025-01-01 at 14:27

Hot take: AI chat is cool in the same way slavery is cool.

It gives you awesome and cheap solutions as long as you can abstract away the questionable business practices that are hidden from view.

Running Mistral locally using Open WebUI does impress me, but I can't help but think of the copyright violations that have been used to train the model.

At least I'm not using external infrastructure to run it, but still.

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Written by Erik Jonker on 2025-01-01 at 14:33

@oddly besides the judicial aspects I personally don’t understand why people get mad about training on publicly available data, especially if there is some kind of profitsharing. In the end if a human can read it online, machines will train on it and/or use it, this was already true in search

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Written by Erwin on 2025-01-01 at 21:07

@ErikJonker to me it is the plausible deniability that irks me. It could indeed be above board, but there is a lot of reporting on the contrary.

Compare it with chocolate that may have been produced without cutting down rainforest, or clothes that may have been produced without child labor.

There are so many business models that are based on the idea that it is very difficult to show it's bad, but the costs don't add up.

And that's a shame because the convenience is pretty cool.

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