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Written by Chaos Post on 2024-12-24 at 22:19

You may now point your terminal (emulator) of choice towards office.c3post.de:4711 and try the first version of the #38c3 Terminal Office (make sure to disable local echo/linefeed conversion stuff).

If you have socat available you can use basically any common terminal emulator with this command: socat stdio,raw,echo=0,echoctl=0 tcp-connect:office.c3post.de:4711

See next posts for telnet/netcat instructions.

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@eventphone @c3isdn

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Written by Chaos Post on 2024-12-25 at 09:31

For telnet you can try the following:

Start "telnet" without connecting to any host yet.

Type "unset echo", press return.

Type "open office.c3post.de 4711", press return

Goto the telnet prompt (I need to press ^] for that)

Enter "mode character", press return.

You should now be able to use the service normally. Output might look garbled. Press Ctrl+L to force a redraw.

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Written by Chaos Post on 2024-12-25 at 09:45

For netcat this commandline works:

stty raw -echo; nc office.c3post.de 4711; stty -raw echo

Note: This assumes you are on a system with stty avaiable (not Windows, idk about macOS).

It configures your terminal, connects and then restores it after you've disconnected.

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Written by jn on 2024-12-24 at 22:31

@ChaosPost @eventphone @c3isdn awesome, i'm installing a shortcut on my powerpc desktop that i'll bring to congress

EDIT: i was about to say it's bugged in busybox telnet, but it says so in the announcement. now i'm compiling socat :)

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Written by Chaos Post on 2024-12-25 at 09:27

@jn @eventphone @c3isdn I found a telnet solution. I'll reply post it to the original announcement.

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Written by mbbrutman on 2024-12-24 at 22:52

@ChaosPost @eventphone @c3isdn I tried it with mTCP Telnet. In general the screen rendering is fine, but mTCP Telnet emulates an "ANSI" terminal which doesn't define things like ALT- combinations or Fx keys, so that limited the ability to move around.

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Written by Chaos Post on 2024-12-24 at 22:54

@mbbrutman @eventphone @c3isdn I'll add a "Go to Tracking"/"Write a Postcard" buttons on the other page then tomorrow.

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Written by Chaos Post on 2024-12-25 at 11:27

@mbbrutman A new version with said buttons was just deployed.

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Written by Beowulf on 2024-12-24 at 22:52

@ChaosPost If everything works, you should receive a postcard 😄

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Written by Chaos Post on 2024-12-24 at 22:55

@Beowulf I had a look in the system and think I found it (assuming your tracking ID ends with W450).

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Written by Beowulf on 2024-12-24 at 22:56

@ChaosPost Yes 👍

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Written by CCC event ISDN/PSTN network on 2024-12-25 at 00:10

@ChaosPost @eventphone excellent. We're still busy building up the ISDN+POTS network, but will try your service ASAP. As a few people are bringing #BTX terminals, another beautiful project (for a future event?) would be a BTX page for chaospost...

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Written by Sophie on 2024-12-25 at 07:31

@ChaosPost @eventphone @c3isdn It's so quick and responsive! I love it!

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Written by Uwe Schwarz ッ� on 2024-12-25 at 10:00

@ChaosPost works on macOS

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Written by opal on 2024-12-26 at 12:03

@ChaosPost hadn't figured out how to do it from the server end?

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Written by Chaos Post on 2024-12-26 at 12:06

@wowaname If you're talking about the telnet part: It's not a telnet server we're using so we'd have to implement/integrate one.

The netcat part we can't do server side for technical reasons.

Also accessing this via socat/netcat/telnet isn't the intended way to access it in the first place (this was made for the on-site retro networking dial-in system).

If we want to offer this over the regular internet in the future we'll most likely hook it up to an ssh server.

^tr

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Written by Fluffviech ™️😺 :snowmow: on 2024-12-26 at 14:36

@ChaosPost both variants are royally broken on termux on android. telnet draws it once, accepts no commands or inputs. stty: "lolNOPE. i just dont."

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Written by Chaos Post on 2024-12-26 at 17:13

@Kamikazepinguin ¯_(ツ)_/¯ It's not meant for direct us anyway. That was just for people to test their terminal emulators with for compatibility. It's meant to be used with the 38c3 on site retro networking dialup network. There will be a version made for connecting with ssh somewhen after congress. ^tr

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Written by Fluffviech ™️😺 :snowmow: on 2024-12-26 at 18:16

@ChaosPost yep - my post was mor meant as a feedback, not as a "GO FIX IT ASAP!!!111!!" ^^ :snowmow:

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Written by Chaos Post on 2024-12-26 at 18:22

@Kamikazepinguin All good. It wasn't seen as such.

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