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Written by Sadderp 🇮🇪 🇪🇺🇫🇷 on 2024-12-23 at 09:09

Clement Attlee said: “Charity is a cold grey loveless thing. If a rich man wants to help the poor, he should pay his taxes gladly, not dole out money at a whim.” As we hurtle towards 2025, perhaps it is time our society edged towards such progress. Modern Britain should not be run like the final pages of A Christmas Carol, in which Tiny Tim must rely on Scrooge waking up in a good mood to be permitted to live. Donate to a good cause this Christmas, please. But don’t forget the unseasonal truth: every time a charity helps a person find food or clothes, it is a sign of government failure.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/dec/23/britain-victorian-christmas-charity-state-social-economic-problems?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

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Written by Fish Id Wardrobe on 2024-12-23 at 10:33

@Sadderp I'm in two minds about this. I think there are many signs that government has always failed regular people; that it's a self-serving thing only. I wonder if we could do better without it.

I don't think this will ever happen, and even if it did it would require regular people to be a lot more grown-up.

But if we ever reached that point, we'd definitely need charity, or something like it — it is, after all, supposed to be a virtue.

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Written by Sadderp 🇮🇪 🇪🇺🇫🇷 on 2024-12-23 at 11:02

@fishidwardrobe

I have always believed there should never be a case for any charitable organisations.

It just shows a failure with government and society.

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Written by Fish Id Wardrobe on 2024-12-23 at 11:25

@Sadderp That's a fair point, but if we can't fix government and society, then what? It might be a baby/bathwater scenario

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Written by Lucy B on 2024-12-23 at 12:00

@fishidwardrobe @Sadderp

But that’s the lesson we are learning and living right now. We are being reminded that there is no such thing as a permanent fix with people. Great societies rise and fall. It’s up to the people to constantly work towards the society they want. I personally have even less faith in anarchy than I do in govt. As the saying goes, “power hates a vacuum.”

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Written by Fish Id Wardrobe on 2024-12-23 at 12:15

@lucybeahere @Sadderp Yes – as I said, I think folks would have to get more grown-up.

But: folks vote for greedy fools. Even when it looks like they haven't.

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