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Written by Karsten Johansson on 2024-12-18 at 13:07

Could you Americans please keep your previous and next president to yourselves. Thank you kindly. #Canada

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/donald-trump-says-canada-becoming-51st-u-s-state-a-great-idea-1.7149805

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Written by @pineywoozle (s) for HARRIS on 2024-12-18 at 13:38

@ksaj We don’t want him either. But then, we didn’t want all those far far farL fringe Canadian voices sayin how bad Biden & Kamala were and both sides were equally bad. So there’s that lol (I wish I was kidding, we got the same propaganda from the farL world wide. Thanks to Putin grooming them for 10 yrs.)

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Written by Karsten Johansson on 2024-12-18 at 14:57

@Pineywoozle I think you might have your directions reversed. Canada's Biden haters are definitely far right leaning conservatives. The far right Canadians are Maple Maga all the way. The farther-left-than-Liberals here were quite fine with Biden, and typically preferred Harris over Trump for 2025.

Similar to Magas, farther-right-than-Conservatives are bizarrely loud and obnoxious, and give the appearance of being majority. They've lost referendum after referendum because the rest of the country sees them as a noxious weed.

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Written by @pineywoozle (s) for HARRIS on 2024-12-18 at 19:04

@ksaj I’m glad those guys lost, but no the Canadian ones I came across pushing Biden hate & both parties are the same BS were very very very farL The conservatives don’t think both parties are the same & that capitalism instead of desperately needing reform needs to be tourched.

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Written by Karsten Johansson on 2024-12-19 at 04:57

@Pineywoozle Canada's far left wouldn't think they are the same, either. Nor does it far right, because we try to pay attention to the likely end result of every policy. Our right tends to err on the side of "how we've always done it" and our left pushes hard to avoid the trap of never progressing.

You need to understand our left and right thinking, while containing a lot of overlap, is simply not the same as your idea of left and right. Look at Britain for example, where left and right also overlap with your and our left-right ideas, yet manage to have things neither you nor I would agree with from the nearest equivalent party. Everywhere on the planet has a left-leaning and a right-leaning ideal. But they are far from directly aligning with each other.

You can be conservative without being an asshole. You can be liberal without getting stoned for breakfast.

What you've been saying about Canada's far left and right wrongly assumes out left and right are the same, to the point what you said about farL was the exact opposite of reality here.

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Written by @pineywoozle (s) for HARRIS on 2024-12-19 at 05:32

@ksaj First this wasn’t coming from run of the mill left. It’s from far far farL, socialism is good, communism is better types. Think of someone on the Fedi from the Kolectiva instance but extreme even for them and unpleasant. Honestly I’m just going by what they said their beliefs were. Anti capitalism, American Dems were shit especially Biden/Harris, tRump not any worse than Biden because Biden is so bad, that sort of BS and actively discouraging voting. Like I said fring, not normal Canadians

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Written by Karsten Johansson on 2024-12-19 at 05:58

@Pineywoozle It's like you didn't even read. Let's just end it here since we can only do loops from here on in.

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Written by @pineywoozle (s) for HARRIS on 2024-12-19 at 14:50

@ksaj Right back at ya. I gave you exact words from people saying they were Canadian and left (not conservative) and counseling Americans not to vote because Biden was as bad tRump.

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