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Written by John Allsopp on 2024-12-19 at 00:31

Australian folks love any advice–moving to a new place, NBN internet or 5G internet?

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Written by Stephen Collins on 2024-12-19 at 00:34

@johnallsopp is the property already provisioned (I assume so)? FTTC or FTTP? If it's already there, I'd definitely say go wired.

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Written by John Allsopp on 2024-12-19 at 00:35

@trib thanks! There appears to be a box there, will have to check vintage etc

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Written by John Allsopp on 2024-12-19 at 00:36

@trib hmm Hybrid Fibre Coaxial (HFC) (had a good experience last place around 5 years ago with that so…)

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Written by Stephen Collins on 2024-12-19 at 00:42

@johnallsopp I’d have thought HFC would have been updated. Interesting. Still, should be okay. Maybe @jpm or @NewtonMark can comment with far greater expertise?

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Written by Joel Michael on 2024-12-19 at 01:13

@trib @johnallsopp @NewtonMark I haven’t been subjected to HFC since 2017 when I moved to a place with FTTP.

Generally, it will come down to usage - will you use more data than a mobile connection will allow at the price point? Both connection types have issues with shared bandwidth, and anecdotally HFC connections have more outages than mobile.

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Written by Frank’s Ting on 2024-12-19 at 01:22

@jpm @trib @johnallsopp @NewtonMark my HFC NBN has been mostly good for the past few years. Aussie BB.

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Written by John Allsopp on 2024-12-19 at 02:37

@franksting @jpm @trib @NewtonMark I had aussie, but FTTP from memory a few years back-rock solid and great up/down (we live streamed our 2020 online conferences over it from Chippendale to the world! In hindsight braver than I realised!)

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Written by Ben Buchanan on 2024-12-19 at 01:38

@trib @johnallsopp HFC is the ticking time bomb of the NBN. If you actively wanted to design a system to have multiple points of failure and no accountability, you'd create HFC.

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Written by John Allsopp on 2024-12-19 at 02:35

@200ok @trib so that's on for 5G then 🙂

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Written by Ben Buchanan on 2024-12-19 at 02:38

@johnallsopp @trib 5G has the same problems as mobile coverage, and will have more latency than wired. So ... you might still have to hold your breath and go with NBN.

Where we are now we can get non-NBN fibre and although the customer service sucks, the connection is great.

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Written by John Allsopp on 2024-12-19 at 02:41

@200ok @trib I have non NBN fibre in the place I'm vacating–way too many outages for my liking, no alternative to the provider that does the whole complex…

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Written by Ben Buchanan on 2024-12-19 at 02:42

@johnallsopp Yeah the non-NBN options have a real "early cable tv" vibe to them. Getting whole apartment blocks locked in.

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Written by Stephen Collins on 2024-12-19 at 02:45

@200ok @johnallsopp almost glad to be on very stable, fast Starlink out here in the bush. Even if it further enables Musk.

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Written by John Allsopp on 2024-12-19 at 02:46

@trib @200ok yeah, and I had a Tesla earmarked for my next car until about 3 years ago 😞

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Written by John Allsopp on 2024-12-19 at 02:45

@200ok yeah gotta say that plus the same for gas +electricity really did not sit well wth me in this place.

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Written by Mark Newton on 2024-12-19 at 05:15

@trib @johnallsopp @jpm I don’t think there’s a plan to overbuild HFC, but everyone knows there will be one one day.

Reliability suuucked in the early days. Much better now. Gigabit available. It’s fine as long as your in-house coax isn’t corroded and is well-terminated.

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Written by John Allsopp on 2024-12-19 at 07:55

@NewtonMark @trib @jpm thanks–not sure how long since the connection has been used.

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Written by Peter Wilson on 2024-12-19 at 00:37

@johnallsopp It may have changed but I looked at 5G when I recently switched providers but decided against it because the upload speeds are more limited than wired.

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Written by John Allsopp on 2024-12-19 at 00:38

@peterwilsoncc 🙏

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Written by Will Richardson on 2024-12-19 at 00:43

@johnallsopp I'd guess that even if you might get slower max speeds on coax NBN, you'll probably have a more consistent service with lower ping and less sensitive to network congestion

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Written by miko on 2024-12-19 at 01:00

@johnallsopp i moved to a new apartment a year ago with Opticomm FTTP. Had dozens of unexplained downtimes, sometimes over 18h long so i switched to Optus 5g. Faster up/down, comparable price. Its been a month, no complaints yet. Wouldn't have considered it if Opticomm wasn't so patchy.

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Written by John Allsopp on 2024-12-19 at 01:02

@ademagic thanks!

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