Ancestors

Written by Kevin Davy on 2024-12-05 at 00:44

@actuallyautistic

Autism is often described as having a different operating system for our minds than non-autistics. One of the ways that this is most clearly demonstrated, is in the communication challenges that can exist between us. For me, this is because there is a fundamental difference in how communication is primarily used and understood.

I believe that autistics and many others, are primarily concerned with the exchange of information and that the clearer and "purer" that information is, the better. So the first act of any communication is to transmit that information as fully as possible. Secondary considerations are doing so in a way that you know will make that information more accessible. Shaping it for the audience, so to speak. And only finally will there be any thought of possible social niceties about the exchange and only then, if the level of masking, or social awareness allows for it.

Allistic primary consideration for communication, though, appears to be social. How will it fit into and effect their place within the hierarchy. How the communication can be shaped for maximum effect within this framework. Secondary considerations then become how much of the information can be imparted in the initial phase and how clear it can be. With perhaps much of the information being held back for further exchanges, once the social aspect and hierarchy has been established.

This also, obviously, applies to receiving communication. Autistics will look initially for the information, the simple, unadorned facts and necessary instructions. Whereas allistics will be looking for the social constructs before trying to establish what information is being exchanged and how to process and respond to it within those constructs. This simple difference in emphasis, is, if you think about, possibly responsible for so many of our problems. Why, for example, our need for as much clearly defined information as possible in the first instance, even to the point of multiple questions asked, is so often seen as rude or pushy. Or why our habits of info dumping and bare-bones facts, just being delivered straight and to the point, can come across as arrogant, or unhelpful. Because neither conform to the allistic's assumptions, or needs.

Of course, this is a classic double-empathy problem. But, what can make it harder to see and understand, is that such fundamental differences in how and why we communicate, are not always obvious or the sort of thing that people realise. Also, even if people are vaguely aware of what they are doing, the assumption, if anything, is normally, well isn't this how everyone does it. 

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Written by Hugs4friends β™ΎπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ˜· on 2024-12-05 at 02:29

@pathfinder A lot of autistic burnout comes from this 'difference'. Either from the waves of disapproval at the way we deliver our message, or - conversely - the anxiety autists feel, waiting for an allist to pass on the information required. @actuallyautistic

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Toot

Written by Kevin Davy on 2024-12-05 at 02:36

@Tooden @actuallyautistic

Indeed. Not helped by not realising, beyond that things aren't working, this fundamental difference in communication. Continually bashing your head against it, whilst never truly understanding it, is never going to be the healthiest path.

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Descendants

Written by Hugs4friends β™ΎπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ˜· on 2024-12-05 at 02:56

@pathfinder Seeming to always have to be the conciliator, is very tiring. Knowing where they're coming from, but seeing no effort on their part, to meet at the halfway point.

Autistics do a hell of a lot of volunteer work. If they suddenly decided, "No, stuff you", committees would fold, charities would struggle, and small wars would break out all over. @actuallyautistic

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Written by Kevin Davy on 2024-12-05 at 03:00

@Tooden @actuallyautistic

Indeed. But, in so many ways, being the majority, means that they don't have to do the work. Whereas, to get anywhere, we have to do it all. No wonder most of us, even those who have no idea about our neurotype, burnout eventually.

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Written by StarkRG@myside-yourside.net on 2024-12-05 at 03:07

@pathfinder @Tooden @actuallyautistic It's our responsibility to make sure we are understood. It's also our responsibility to make sure we understand others. It's our responsibility to pay attention and infer the needs of others then adapt to accommodate them. It's also our responsibility to suppress our own needs when they aren't being accommodated and risk being actively ridiculed when we ask for them to be.

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Written by Hugs4friends β™ΎπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ˜· on 2024-12-05 at 03:15

@StarkRG Responsible is our unacknowledged second name. @pathfinder @actuallyautistic

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Written by Kevin Davy on 2024-12-05 at 03:19

@StarkRG @Tooden @actuallyautistic

Unfortunately.

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