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Written by PointlessOne :loading: on 2024-12-03 at 14:19

The fact that #AdventOfCode after 10 years still uses global time of submission as the metric is utter bullshit. To qualify you have only ~3 minutes after midnight UTC-5 to submit your solutions. If you're in a wrong timezone or have something else to do at that exact time your only chance to be on the leaderboard is to hope that people would drop out after a week.

These's a simple solution: measure time since a participant gets the puzzle until they submit a correct answer. It's not perfect, sure, but at least it gives a chance to more people around the world. The way it is right now is extremely biased.

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Written by KasTas on 2024-12-03 at 14:36

@pointlessone well, bare in mind that the sole purpose for the Advent of Code was... "to have some fun for the creator and handful of friends".

Event if it got as widespread as now, I'd say it's not the thing to get needy about.

Also, for the local community (again, as it's intended to be used) there are private leaderboards.

Also the leaderboard is not the sole purpose of these challenges. It's to have some fun :}

(sorry @ericwastl if I'm misquoting the original idea from your talks).

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Written by PointlessOne :loading: on 2024-12-03 at 19:17

@KasTasMykolas @ericwastl Well, I hope they do have fun because I don't have much fun knowing I’m needlessly handicapped.

I mean, that's a worthy goal for the inception but it’s been a decade since and authors are obviously aware of the popularity of their creation. They’re also seem adamant that competition is an important aspect of the experience as they still keep the leaderboard even though I’m certainly not the first to complain on the internet about it. Yet they didn't try to find an alternative that is more suitable to the global nature of participation.

Anyway, I don't have a solution, let alone the solution. I'm just venting on main. Take it for what it is.

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Written by KasTas on 2024-12-03 at 19:29

@pointlessone @ericwastl you're not alone :) Use to have to get up at 5AM, now it's 7AM. And that's how December goes :)

And again, I don't believe there is a way to make it "fair" for everyone. Being a night owl and living in some other timezone? Working night shifts? Etc. Except local leaderboards.

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Written by Eric Wastl on 2024-12-03 at 20:51

@KasTasMykolas @pointlessone If we did that, the result would be that everyone solves the puzzle slowly on one account, then uses that solution to solve it instantly on a second account, and every leaderboard entry would be exactly zero seconds. That would be worse. Instead, the global leaderboard is set up so that there can be any kind of fair speed contest, which some people feel is important. I do not recommend competing in the speed contest.

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Written by KasTas on 2024-12-03 at 22:39

@ericwastl @pointlessone and You have explicitly stated that countless of times (recommendation of not competing in terms ofo time). I'm so sorry for bringing You to this common question, but I just needed a sanity check and assurance that I'm not misquoting You :)

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