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Written by Dan Gohman on 2024-11-21 at 16:37

I am a programmer in the year 2024 who doesn't use AI.

I'm not even curious about it.

It's not just the mistakes. Hallucinations. Artificial confidence.

It's not just the unconscionable energy use. Laundering and reinforcement of historical biases. Ripoff of creative works. Exploited workers. Scams. Bots. Political propaganda. Mass surveillance to train the beast. And this is just off the top of my head here.

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Written by Dan Gohman on 2024-11-21 at 16:37

It's not just about how the story of how AI will make us all so much more "productive" that we'll all have much more free time, which has been told many times in modern history and has never been broadly true.

It is all that.

And.

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Written by Dan Gohman on 2024-11-21 at 16:55

On a personal level.

I got curious about computers because they are things I'm able to be curious about. That's it. That's the spark. I can explore them and learn how they work.

Computers are hard sometimes. Sometimes we can figure out ways to make them easier. But if we instead automate doing hard things, using AI to make doing hard things less effort, it doesn't lead to a place I'm excited about.

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Toot

Written by doragasu on 2024-11-21 at 17:56

@sunfish I neither use it. But the thing is AI isn't really useful to do hard tasks. Maybe for boilerplate and easy tasks. But I don't think you can get a decent success rate when asking hard problems to an AI.

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Written by Daniel Django :verified_rainbow: (Akkoma) on 2024-11-21 at 18:13

@doragasu

I try it from time to time, when i stumble upon a hard task. LLMs fails solving those tasks regularly. I sometimes solve the task first and then try to see, how it would solve the task, only to notice, that it fails.

Boilerplate code can be solved with better tooling and snippets, which require much less computational power and produce more consistent results.

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Written by mathew on 2024-11-22 at 02:27

@django @sunfish @doragasu Exactly. People say AI is great for boilerplate, but my IDE already has templates for boilerplate, I have a code snippet library, and there are sites like Stack Overflow with examples. All of those have the added advantages over AI that I know where the code came from and I can have some confidence that it's actually correct.

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