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Written by Håkan Geijer on 2024-11-11 at 17:24

Hive mind: I once saw an article about the Three Body Problem book written by a (maybe) chinese person explaining why the online chinese right loved that book/trilogy for it's anti-feminist and militarist views. Does anyone have a link on hand?

Found: https://madeinchinajournal.com/2023/12/11/the-three-body-problem-the-imperative-of-survival-and-the-misogyny-of-reactionary-rhetoric/

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Written by Michael Busch on 2024-11-11 at 17:27

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On that I have learned from the author and professor Chenchen Zhang: https://madeinchinajournal.com/2023/12/11/the-three-body-problem-the-imperative-of-survival-and-the-misogyny-of-reactionary-rhetoric/ .

She has also described how extensively the English translations of the trilogy were edited to remove sexist and racist elements from the Chinese originals.

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Written by lou. on 2024-11-11 at 17:30

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And there's still plenty of that in the english translations

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Written by Michael Busch on 2024-11-11 at 17:36

@einsiedlerspiel I read the English versions of "Three Body" and "Dark Forest".

I did not read "Death's End" because of just how horrific the misogyny in "Dark Forest" is.

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Written by Håkan Geijer on 2024-11-11 at 17:43

@michael_w_busch @einsiedlerspiel It got worse, iirc.

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Written by FoolishOwl on 2024-11-11 at 19:16

@hakan_geijer @michael_w_busch @einsiedlerspiel I thought the Three-Body Problem was the worst novel I ever finished reading. I'm somehow impressed the sequels were worse.

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Written by Michael Busch on 2024-11-11 at 19:43

@foolishowl @hakan_geijer @einsiedlerspiel

I knew what the final plot twist in "Dark Forest" was going to be within the first few pages of reading it.

And then I found that between the beginning and the ending; the text is in large part apologia for misogyny and abusive relationships.

So I did not need to read anything else by Liu Cixin.

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Written by lou. on 2024-11-11 at 17:28

@hakan_geijer

this one maybe?

https://madeinchinajournal.com/2023/12/11/the-three-body-problem-the-imperative-of-survival-and-the-misogyny-of-reactionary-rhetoric/

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Written by Håkan Geijer on 2024-11-11 at 17:43

@einsiedlerspiel Yep. That's the one.

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