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Written by chico on 2024-11-04 at 10:06

Two very important ideas in modern #agriculture (at least in the #EU) are Goodhart's Law and Jevon's Paradox.

If the results of incentives to #sustainability and the #resilience of family #farming are increased consolidation to the detriment of the environment and local economies, we can conclude that #regulation and #subsidies are, in the best case, ineffective, or have been, in the worst, a deliberate tool for corporate capture.

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Written by mj on 2024-11-04 at 10:39

@chicob

What's the next step then?

• the specific regs & subs that you had

(They could be written to support resilience instead of efficiency.)

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Written by chico on 2024-11-04 at 10:45

@MalthusJohn

Perhaps fighting corporate consolidation by means of law, while aiming at redundancy at the same time, by pursuing metrics that go beyond individual performance.

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Written by chico on 2024-11-04 at 10:52

@MalthusJohn

This isn't to say that regular inspection at the individual level should stop.

But draconian rules that only large companies can follow is a recipe for the erasure of small to medium sized farms.

Subsidies should also take into consideration factors other than land area. In fact, the larger the area, the greater the responsibility.

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Written by chico on 2024-11-04 at 10:56

@MalthusJohn

Also very important is the scrutiny of European law: knowing why rules exist and where they come from. Who wrote them, who lobbied for them, etc.

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Written by mj on 2024-11-04 at 11:49

@chicob

It sounds like the incentives were not aimed (correctly) at resilience, that is, probably just a word salad meant to give that impression.

However, I also don't think we are at a point in civilization where tweaking a few laws here & there is going to be effective. We need a much more transformative paradigm shift across the board.

I'm not saying we shouldn't try, but that as a complex adaptive system, those small changes are lost against a host of counteracting forces.

For example, we need changes 'upstream' from corporations, not downstream, where they have already basically won. Limits are not that complicated; minimum wages need a complementary maximum income. A license to monopolize in order to bootstrap a new industry for social good needs a termination date (as all corps once had) as well as limits to 'scope' (a simple example of 1 corp not being able to own another corp).

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