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Written by Georg Tuparev on 2024-10-07 at 19:10

But Elon is evil, because he has “strange” political views.

One thing I dislike in our western culture is that we value (political) views more than deeds.

Oh, did I mention that without Elon, US will be #3 in space behind China and Russia? And who kicked the global EV industry?

In Bulgaria we have a saying: deeds make a person’s soul beautiful.

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Written by Ellen Shapiro on 2024-10-08 at 15:19

@tuparev Like this deed? https://wapo.st/4eQKjFd

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Written by Georg Tuparev on 2024-10-08 at 17:52

@designatednerd

As someone who has grown up in a communist country I despise any form of suppression or intolerance. But in communist Bulgaria I also learned that people should be responsible for themselves. If I am a braun idiot with a moustache, go after me, not after the media I use. Because where do we stop? The internet provides? The regulator of the wavelengths? The producer of the paper, or even the logger who cut the tree?

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Written by Miguel Arroz on 2024-10-08 at 17:57

@tuparev @designatednerd Your PoV assumes human beings are perfect, don't make mistakes, and are not easily manipulated, especially as a group. Any system, from small things to political and social systems, that are based on those flawed assumptions are doomed to fail.

A good example: flying VS driving. Virtually nobody dies flying any more because the system assumes all humans involved will make mistakes. Driving: kills thousands a day because it assumes everyone drives perfectly and legally.

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Written by Georg Tuparev on 2024-10-08 at 18:09

@arroz @designatednerd

I am the last one to believe in perfection. But I am trying to use a bit of understanding and compassion. We do not know, the path any person had to walk to reach the current day. But I am absolutely confident, that for the very few who make a dent in the universe we should separate the person from the deeds. We should fight the bed dents. This would be our moral obligation. But also acknowledge the good deeds.

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Toot

Written by Ellen Shapiro on 2024-10-08 at 19:21

@tuparev @arroz I’m pretty sure think pieces trying to psychoanalyze him and determine if ultimately he was good or bad for the world will continue to come out for decades.

But ultimately if you’re looking at deeds, you do have to weigh the harms of the bad with the help of the good.

How you measure that is subjective, but at least in my book, I feel like if you own a large communication platform and people are using it to sow hateful chaos and you do nothing, that wipes out a lot of good.

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Descendants

Written by Miguel Arroz on 2024-10-08 at 20:13

@designatednerd @tuparev It’s worse than that. He stood on stage next to Trump and told people if the democrats win, this will be the last election in the US (I watched him saying this word by word, PT news played the video).

The good deeds don’t balance out the bad ones. If I’m a great guy and help the poor and donate millions to my community, but occasionally I go out at night and kill somebody, I’m a murder. Period. The good deeds means nothing. And he’s a fascist trying to elect a fascist.

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