I've been seeing introduction posts here over the past while, particularly from #actuallyautistic and #neurodivergent people. And naturally they have a lot in common. But one thing in particular that intrigues me is that it seems that a high percentage of them mention #StarTrek as a favorite show. Now maybe this is just small sample size times coincidence, maybe even personal bias, but it does seem to happen far more often than I see any other show mentioned. So it has me wondering, is this true?
And if so, what is it about the show that makes it appealing to us? The adventure? The mystery? The plots? The characters? The appeal of space travel and exploration? The pro-science themes? The inclusiveness? The promise of a future where humans have solved their problems of poverty, discrimination, and war? Something else? What makes this more appealing to NDs over something else that is very popular, such as Star Wars? I have an idea as to the answer to these questions, but I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on the matter.
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As a group, we do tend to be more into science fiction and fantasy, than perhaps others. Perhaps it's simply that they show worlds that aren't our own and the possibility for the world to become better than it is. Star Trek, even more than most other shows, was all about a world creation that centred on a logical and ethical premise that perhaps appeals to us more than most.
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@pathfinder @murdoc Yeah. In general there's a very principled rhetoric to the show, about truth and duty and honour. And autistic-coded characters are a big part of the show (Spock, Data, Seven, etc.). They differ from their castmates, but they're appreciated (generally).
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Yes, I think most of us can see ourselves in those characters and can agree with so much of the ethos in the show.
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Even if those characters were handled a little clumsily at times. But given that we didn't know very much about neurodivergence back then, they did a pretty good job I think.
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@Cassandra @pathfinder @murdoc this is my thinking too. And autistic coded characters are valued.
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But Star Wars was about fighting evil dictatorships, which autistic people like too, but then again so do most people. I have this feeling that it leaned more into fantasy/romanticism than Star Trek did, and that perhaps that is the difference?
To be clear, I like SW too, but I'd rather live in the Federation. (Unless Zeltros was an option, then I'd totally go for that. Lol.)
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@murdoc @pathfinder @actuallyautistic I feel Star Trek is more hopeful as even a lot of the times they are alone (as a lot of the adventures are about going to the undiscovered) the Federation and its values are somewhere in the Universe so you are not really alone.
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Yes, a very important theme in Voyager.
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@murdoc @pathfinder @actuallyautistic I could never get into Star Wars. Star Trek all the way for me
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@pathfinder @murdoc @actuallyautistic What I love most about Star trek is that humanity isn't in space to conquer or trade or fight or survive some threat, we're out there to learn and explore out of a spirit of curiosity, and to help if we can. (Or in Kirk's case out there to get laid, but we skip over that bit).
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@afewbugs @pathfinder @murdoc @actuallyautistic oooh good point
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@niamhgarvey @pathfinder @murdoc @actuallyautistic the premise of "We've solved all the problems on Earth! Hey, we're in a universe of cool shit let's go learn about it!" always made a lot of sense to me in a way that "Hey, let's conquer the galaxy and create a thousand year empire!" didn't because that's exactly what I'd do in a post scarcity society where everyone's needs were met so nothing needed to be fixed.
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@niamhgarvey @pathfinder @murdoc @actuallyautistic If we don't have to do anything to survive, why don't we go and try and figure out what those cool giant energy bugs are doing in that nebula? And on the way why not play obscure musical instruments, paint mediocre paintings and get super involved in a holographic rpg with some friends?
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@niamhgarvey @pathfinder @murdoc @actuallyautistic I mean that's definitely the best future I can possibly imagine
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@afewbugs it should be you out there instead of Musk and Bezos! If only, right? @niamhgarvey @pathfinder @murdoc @actuallyautistic
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