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Written by NextGraph on 2024-09-06 at 13:13

We have released in alpha version our App for web, mobile and desktop/laptop, and the next release will include our framework for app developers!

Try it now, and stay tuned for more. Follow us, spread the word, give us a star, and join us!

We are bringing about the new internet that is strongly needed today, and that we all deserve: secure, private, local-first, open and easy-to-use. A big thank you for the amazing support from @nlnet @NGIAssure and @NGIZero

https://nextgraph.org/interview-with-ngi/

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Written by Filene Taylor on 2024-09-07 at 23:12

@nextgraph @nlnet @NGIAssure @NGIZero Good timing, NextGraph! I think folk are looking for tools like you 😎🥲

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Written by NextGraph on 2024-09-08 at 00:07

@Filene Thanks for your nice feedback ! We will be pushing E2EE CRDTs, sync protocols, and Semantic Web all the way towards end-user adoption and also for developers, with our framework. Stay tuned!

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Written by Filene Taylor on 2024-09-08 at 05:14

@nextgraph I'm reading your documentation right now and I feel like I'm gratefully seeing you are a package deal; the two-tier system that is Local-First, cognizant of difficulties regarding "servers" being an end-user necessity versus just a choice of broker, and a way of storing documents and more with multiple access grants. Fyi, this is incredible, not just because of the logistics underpinning your work, but because I find your documentation reads so well thanks to the clarity of the existing ecosystems and their gaps. Not only do I understand you're all aware of Holochain, I understand that your E2EE network construction circumvent possible kinds of data locality issues tackled in networks such as Holochain's basic DHT broadcasts.

Let me try to unearth a fair comparison to other networks that your comparison chart will someday receive as additions:

You aren't responsible for whether or not I'm right since I'll be researching all these again to be certain myself. Yet, you remind me of something else.

Does the overlay net lose all public served data if all brokers go offline/defunct/corrupt? Ouisync tried to solve no-online-peer access by holding an encrypted copy of data (a "pull server" Ouisync calls a Blind share) for users when peers weren't online. I think users in NextGraph are the ones responsible for storing the backups of their wallets and data, as if all personal waller devices are offline and a new device tries to access a copy of their wallet's content, they'd need to have an existing device reconnect. (This is great!! I think?) I think I'm mistaken, though, because there will be a public list of files NextGraph would allow other users to see, so the overlay must store all posted public datas.. How does the overlay network backup and maintain public state for users without any repo wallets online and connected? 🙂 Do brokers start fresh until a user with a wallet connects and renews public repos?

This sounds really, really great. Thank you. 🙇‍♀️

(I bet this is in the documentation, of course! :3)

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Written by NextGraph on 2024-09-08 at 11:24

@Filene Thanks for your questions and positive feedback! You are lucky to be allowed by your AP server to publish long posts. Mine restricts me to 500 chars so I am afraid I cannot answer well on Mastodon. We can continue the talk on our forum https://forum.nextgraph.org/ But yes, comparing NextGraph with others is important. We have already published a survey 2 years ago for that purpose, and will update it soon and integrate what you have shared with us. Thank you for your interest in NextGraph!

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Written by NextGraph on 2024-09-08 at 11:30

@Filene We did study several existing alternatives before starting NextGraph. Holochain was one of them yes. To answer quickly your question about data availability in the overlay: all our brokers are "Blind share" or "E2EE pull servers" if you prefer. Anybody will be able to run a broker soon (self-hosted) and specially at home, with a raspberry pi, by example. You won't need to register a domain name for that, as NextGraph net works only on IP.

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Written by NextGraph on 2024-09-08 at 11:31

@Filene About backups, we do offer the option to have several brokers attached to the same wallet/account, so that the data is replicated automatically on those different brokers. it can be the broker of a friend, or a public broker available to anyone. you will choose. And eventually, if no broker is available at all, we will allow the users to exchange directly the files/documents in a truly P2P way, if needed.

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Written by NextGraph on 2024-09-08 at 11:36

@Filene To answer your other concern about data availability when all the devices of a user are offline, and they shared a link to their data to others. What happens in this case? This is what the brokers are meant for. Even if all the devices of the user are offline, the broker can serve the files and documents, and it is E2EE, so the broker does not see the content, but it is here to help to maintain a high availability of the user's data.

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Written by NextGraph on 2024-09-08 at 11:37

@Filene So yes, you are right to say that the overlay maintains a public state in order to help when all devices are offline. The brokers start empty, as you said, and then users can be added (with invitations, by example) and then users decide which data they want to send to the broker(s). The "renewal" is not needed, unlike on IPFS where you constantly need to pin again your blocks. In NextGraph the blocks stay in the brokers, until they are manually removed or not needed anymore.

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