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Written by Quinn Dombrowski on 2024-05-09 at 16:29

I've ended up with an inquiry from a #DataScience student interested in examples of #harm coming to people because of #data collection (especially in a war context, but open to anything). Do folks have any favorite pointers / examples I could pass along?

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Written by David Fi&er on 2024-05-09 at 16:41

@quinnanya "favorite"isn't exactly the right word, but in the 1930s, IBM Germany explicitly pushed computing machinery as a way to collate and identify "undesirables" (see, Shew, Ashley. 2023. Against Technoableism : Rethinking Who Needs Improvement. First edition. New York: W. W. Norton & Company, pp 89-92)

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Written by Quinn Dombrowski on 2024-05-09 at 16:48

@djfiander Thank you!

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Written by Brett Haines on 2024-05-09 at 18:58

@djfiander @quinnanya it's much worse than that. IBM directly assisted the Nazi regime with the planning and implementation of the Holocaust. Without IBM's Hollerith tabulating machines, and the company's assistance in using them, the Third Reich would not have been able to gather and utilize the data necessary to identify "undesirables", nor would the concentration camps have been as efficient at organizing and exterminating their occupants. "IBM and the Holocaust" by Edwin Black is probably the best overall look at this issue, but plenty of articles have been written about it as well.

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Written by Quinn Dombrowski on 2024-05-09 at 18:59

@bretthaines @djfiander Thank you!

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Written by Veronika Cheplygina on 2024-05-09 at 16:55

@quinnanya https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai-database-hamas-airstrikes

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Written by Zwifi on 2024-05-09 at 18:29

@quinnanya I don't have a specific reference, but the French law forbids collecting people's racial or religious status, because last time the french state recorded these it was used for deporting people during Nazi occupation. A bit of an extreme example perhaps, and not the most recent, but it still has legal consequences to this day.

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Written by Quinn Dombrowski on 2024-05-09 at 18:31

@Zwifi That's helpful, thank you!

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Written by 🌈 Andrew ☄️ on 2024-05-09 at 19:56

@quinnanya this other post might have some https://hachyderm.io/@cyberlyra/112411427459797241

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Written by ekamil on 2024-05-09 at 20:43

@quinnanya also not a specific example but see https://mathbabe.org/ and her book Weapons of Math Destruction

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Written by neoluddite on 2024-05-09 at 21:53

@quinnanya four great examples here. https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/rearvision/the-dark-side-of-census-collections/7860908

I also remember reading about the resistance in Belgium or Holland in WWII sabotaging census records, but I can't find the article I was thinking of.

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Written by neoluddite on 2024-05-09 at 21:56

@quinnanya Aha, pretty sure it was this one: https://medium.com/@hansdezwart/during-world-war-ii-we-did-have-something-to-hide-40689565c550

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Written by Pilot Irwin on 2024-05-10 at 15:23

@quinnanya Anecdotally, one of my student work positions involved cleaning data from anonymous interviews in a politically unstable area. The names & addresses had already been redacted for interviewee safety, but we also had to look for & remove any other info that could potentially be combined together to make an identifiable profile or narrow down a likely location. It was a good lesson in "Just because the dataset is big, doesn't mean the data isn't distinctive."

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