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00:02 TR News; Deepfakes Are Interviewing For Tech Jobs - ExtremeTech https://www.extremetech.com/internet/337667-deepfakes-are-interviewing-for-tech-jobs Source: extremetech

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00:02 TR Bot; Are Interviewing For Tech Jobs - ExtremeTech

00:02 TR News; IEEE Spectrum running ADS for espionage company. WHY? https://spectrum.ieee.org/unsupervised-learning-meta

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00:02 TR Bot; Metas AI Takes an Unsupervised Step Forward - IEEE Spectrum

00:04 TR News; "[Microsoft] LinkedIn becomes a treasure trove of data to enable spearphising attacks." https://xeiaso.net/blog/spearphishing

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00:04 TR Bot; Spearphishing: it can happen to you too - Xe

00:15 MinceR; 09 213056 < DaemonFC> It's unbelievable what happened to this state. The Republicans controlled the state government from 1995-1997, and instead of repealing the FOID Act, they introduced a bunch of abortion laws the Democrats repealed later.

00:15 MinceR; proving that the "republicans" are just as useless as the "democrats"

00:16 MinceR; 09 215108 < DaemonFC> If they weren't so corrupt and insistent upon wasting so much water making Almondmilk for hipsters, then Lake Mead would be fine.

00:16 MinceR; they waste water on other things too

00:26 TR News; On to the Next Decade on Techrights | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/techrights-at-34k/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/09/techrights-at-34k/

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00:26 TR Bot; On to the Next Decade on Techrights | Techrights

00:28 matey; proving that the "republicans" are just as useless as the "democrats" <- same party, the bend over for corporate rule party

00:29 matey; the corporations could give a shit whether you have 20 abortions or buy 20 suvs

00:29 matey; thats all stuff they use to sell politicians to voters

00:30 matey; then when the corporations rape the entire country, instead of angry mobs the people go OMG THEYLL FEEL THIS IN THE POLLS!

00:30 matey; but they never fucking do

00:31 matey; s/country/world/ because if theyres anyone they fuck harder than the entire country, its other countries

00:31 matey; theres

00:31 MinceR; yup

00:31 matey; republican senators / congress / presidents: frauds

00:31 matey; democrat etc / etc / etc: frauds

00:31 matey; its a scam

00:32 matey; dfc thinks he can minmax his way to success with them

00:32 matey; they saw him when he walked in

00:33 matey; its not a real democracy folks, its not even a real republic

00:33 matey; trumps like blah blah blah the election

00:33 matey; the whole system is bullshit

00:34 MinceR; the whole society is bullshit, including the "social contract"

00:34 matey; society runs on capitalism

00:34 matey; capitalism doesnt pull the strings-- it owns the strings, and everything on the ends of the strings too

00:34 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/weekend-random-randomness-7-2-22-13.jpg

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00:35 matey; it owns the news, literally, it owns everyones homes, it owns the people themselves

00:36 matey; if capitalism wants everyone sucking dicks for starbucks while getting ubi (not that im against ubi)

00:36 matey; then everyone (more or less) is going to be on their knees getting extra foam for their crappucino while getting ubi

00:37 matey; of course, thats exactly why you want baristas to unionise

00:37 matey; its one small step for baristas...

00:38 matey; seriously its this or just go ahead and finish surrendering

00:38 matey; theyve got pretty much everything there is to have (in the material sense)

00:38 matey; and so it begins

00:42 TR News; [Teaser] Inside the Arrest and Trial of Microsofts Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/arrest-and-trial-of-alex-graveley/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/09/arrest-and-trial-of-alex-graveley/

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00:42 TR Bot; [Teaser] Inside the Arrest and Trial of Microsofts Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot | Techrights

00:42 matey; what you see in the tech world is pretty much the fantasy of every ceo playing out

00:42 matey; they have a window into your home, your bedroom, your toilet, your bank info, your family, your habits

00:42 matey; every single fucking thing about you

00:43 matey; and they can (and do) use it to manipulate you even more than decades ago when it was just market research and advertising

00:43 AdmFubar; including your fucking thing

00:43 matey; now its like the nuclear equivalent of that

00:44 AdmFubar; https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/07/quest-vr-has-traded-facebookening-for-metastasis-with-new-account-system/

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00:44 TR Bot; Meta removes Facebook account mandate from Quest VRbut is that enough? | Ars Technica

00:44 matey; and lieplanet is like THEY EAT PEOPLE! POGO STICKS! MUSHROOMS!

00:44 schestowitz[TR]; people uses that??

00:44 matey; just come out and fucking say it

00:44 schestowitz[TR]; *use

00:44 matey; oh, you cant.

00:45 schestowitz[TR]; don't say come out

00:45 schestowitz[TR]; spamnil does not know what it means

00:45 matey; speaking of dancing around the issue

00:46 schestowitz[TR]; "POGO STICKS! MUSHROOMS!"

00:46 schestowitz[TR]; not an issue

00:46 schestowitz[TR]; caricature

00:46 matey; shoetool was a little more coherent

00:46 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, sjvn has some splaning to do to the wife.. about spamnil saying "coming out soon"

00:47 schestowitz[TR]; shoetool

00:47 schestowitz[TR]; let's give it fsf award

00:47 *swaggboi has quit (Read error: Connection timed out)

00:47 schestowitz[TR]; of all the millions who develop and use free software

00:47 schestowitz[TR]; let's give that annual awatd to mr. shoetool

00:47 schestowitz[TR]; what a tool

00:47 matey; who did shoetool anyway

00:48 *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights

00:48 schestowitz[TR]; not sure if the de icaza and deb icaza award were worse

00:48 matey; /me knows hes going to have to look it up anyway

00:48 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BjAgwIr3DAA

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00:48 TR Bot; ShoeTool by the Free Software Foundation - Invidious

00:48 schestowitz[TR]; fsf recently reuploaded it

00:50 matey; shoetool was actually a good video

00:50 matey; it was informative

00:51 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=P_mS4CIXcLY

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00:51 TR Bot; Stephen Fry - Free Software - Invidious

00:51 matey; the ones they made after that are all kind of ridiculously abstract

00:51 matey; they tell you more or less fuck all

00:51 matey; granted shoetool did start this trend

00:51 matey; then after they tell you this, they tell you (of course) to join the fsf

00:52 matey; who will give you very little practical advice on becoming LESS of a corporate slave

00:52 TR News; "We have a large trove of material left to publish, but were pacing it down somewhat so as to not overwhelm readers. Its strategic, too." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/09/techrights-at-34k/

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00:52 TR Bot; Blog Archive Techrights at 34k

00:52 matey; theyll just replace your non-free corporate shackles with corporate shackles that pretend to give you recourse

00:52 matey; "here try this, its a little itchier but IN THEORY you can actually remove it"

00:53 matey; "so can i actually remove it?"

00:53 matey; "of course not, what are you stupid?"

00:54 matey; "selling linux to microsoft was my idea!"

00:55 matey; without freedom 4, the other 4 freedoms are more of a fairy tale

00:56 matey; if you cant remove it, its a shackle

00:56 TR News; SFC: cancel RMS because of his personal life, not because of his technical work or any legal issues. Also SFC: GitHub is bad for legal and technical reasons, we don't mind the person behind it assaulting women (WE WILL NOT EVEN MENTION IT!) http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/arrest-and-trial-of-alex-graveley/

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00:56 TR Bot; [Teaser] Inside the Arrest and Trial of Microsofts Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot | Techrights

00:56 matey; i dont care what license it has, its a freely-licensed shackle posing as a NON-shackle

00:56 TR News; Techrights has secured its presence and sustainability online; now, with 34,000 blog posts (over 2,000 per year), were trying to better organise the material for faster delivery http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/techrights-at-34k/

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00:56 TR Bot; On to the Next Decade on Techrights | Techrights

00:56 matey; free software used to be a movement. now its just more corporate sophistry

00:57 AdmFubar; https://www.ghacks.net/2022/07/09/linux-is-performing-better-than-windows-11-according-to-this-benchmark-test/

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00:57 TR Bot; Linux is performing better than Windows 11 according to this benchmark test - gHacks Tech News

00:57 matey; it will be a movement again

00:57 matey; people are (very) slowly realising this

00:57 matey; the fsf doesnt know shit about it

00:57 matey; POGO STICKS!

00:58 matey; motherfucker i can fly

00:58 matey; BUT THEYRE FUN

00:58 matey; not in a cave theyre not

00:58 AdmFubar; the linux movement... everyone should have one... everyday!!

00:58 matey; you take a pogo stick to a cave. let me know how that works out.

00:59 schestowitz[TR]; I don't get the "POGO STICKS!" reference

00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.71 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

00:59 schestowitz[TR]; except

00:59 matey; its in the stupid new video

00:59 matey; the fsf one

00:59 schestowitz[TR]; if you assume they are only popular among geeks

00:59 schestowitz[TR]; they are popular among teens

00:59 schestowitz[TR]; not geeks

00:59 matey; well i did explain this already

00:59 schestowitz[TR]; does fsf sell pogo sticks?

00:59 matey; they might as well

00:59 matey; in the new video, a bunch of things happen that make roughly zero sense

00:59 schestowitz[TR]; what age did rms quit his job at mit to focus on gnu?

1 AM, July 10

01:00 matey; the first transformation of the heroine in the video (i realise im talking to myself here) she gains a cape and a walking stick

01:00 matey; the walking stick isnt used again except to help one person up at some point-- after its established that the other person can fly.

01:00 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman

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01:00 TR Bot; Richard Stallman - Wikipedia

01:01 schestowitz[TR]; "In February 1984, Stallman quit his job at MIT to work full-time on the GNU project,"

01:01 matey; so this walking stick magically appears-- but doesnt get used really

01:01 matey; after its established that this person can fly-- in a big cave

01:01 schestowitz[TR]; born

01:01 schestowitz[TR]; March 16, 1953

01:01 matey; they find a bunch of pogo sticks

01:01 matey; which becomes one of their primary modes of transport for a while

01:01 schestowitz[TR]; so he has not held a "job" per se since age 30

01:01 matey; inside a cave.

01:02 matey; his job is doing public talks. thats where his money comes from.

01:02 matey; thats his career.

01:02 schestowitz[TR]; maybe later this year I will do techrights 100% of the time (to reuse the IBM phrase)

01:02 matey; he also won some large monetary prizes

01:02 schestowitz[TR]; trhe key is reducing costs

01:02 schestowitz[TR]; ""Until "around 1998", he maintained an office at the Institute that doubled as his legal residence."

01:03 schestowitz[TR]; so he lives in his officer for nearly 15 years

01:03 schestowitz[TR]; *lived

01:03 matey; paired with his bohemian lifestyle, it works out pretty well

01:03 schestowitz[TR]; *office

01:03 matey; computers he gets from work. money he gets from talking. you know about his living situation.

01:03 schestowitz[TR]; the monetary prizes had no strings attacked

01:03 schestowitz[TR]; they were like endowments

01:03 schestowitz[TR]; *atatched

01:03 matey; yeah, he contributed to ai research and stuff

01:04 matey; until he wrote an offensive email

01:04 schestowitz[TR]; I should look into such stuff that helps run stuff without selling out to companies

01:04 schestowitz[TR]; working 36 hoiurs a week is tiring

01:04 matey; i found a thick hardback book at one point that cited his paper, he was in the index

01:04 matey; i didnt buy it, the book was of no use to me and too expensive to buy just for fun

01:05 schestowitz[TR]; '

01:05 schestowitz[TR]; Awards

01:05 schestowitz[TR]; MacArthur Fellowship

01:05 schestowitz[TR]; ACM Grace Murray Hopper Award

01:05 schestowitz[TR]; EFF Pioneer Award

01:05 schestowitz[TR]; ACM Software System Award

01:05 schestowitz[TR]; Internet Hall of Fame"

01:05 schestowitz[TR]; I assume each was also a monetary grant

01:05 schestowitz[TR]; FSF itself addded corporations

01:05 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> I should look into such stuff that helps run stuff without selling out to companies <- yeah, in earnest.

01:05 schestowitz[TR]; let me check waylback machine..

01:05 matey; the book was on ai research

01:06 matey; stallmans work was mentioned on 2 or 3 pages of it

01:06 schestowitz[TR]; https://web.archive.org/web/19980119061128/http://www.fsf.org/

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01:06 TR Bot; GNU's Not Unix! - the GNU Project and the Free Software Foundation (FSF)

01:06 matey; i was interested in ai when i was a kid

01:06 matey; i made a decision in my teens to never get involved with ai research

01:06 schestowitz[TR]; maybe I should screenshot these

01:06 matey; im not against it entirely, but i dont want to be its inventor

01:07 schestowitz[TR]; "Updated: 1 Jan 1998 rms"

01:07 matey; im not implying that i was likely to become prominent or even important

01:07 schestowitz[TR]; RMS edited the site directly

01:07 schestowitz[TR]; 1998

01:07 matey; i simply wanted nothing to do with it

01:08 schestowitz[TR]; "On December 2, Richard Stallman will speak at the monthly SVLUG meeting. The meeting is from 7:00pm to 9:00pm at the cafeteria at Netscape, Building 22."

01:08 schestowitz[TR]; https://web.archive.org/web/19981206082742/http://www.fsf.org:80/

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01:08 TR Bot; GNU's Not Unix! - the GNU Project and the Free Software Foundation (FSF)

01:09 schestowitz[TR]; "On March 6, Richard Stallman will speak at the Singapore Linux Conference. The conference will be located at the Suntec City Convention Center, Singapore. Richard will continue to the National University of Singapore Campus where he will hold a speech about the GNU project on March 8.

01:09 schestowitz[TR]; "

01:09 schestowitz[TR]; https://web.archive.org/web/19990208004404/http://fsf.org:80/

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01:09 TR Bot; GNU's Not Unix! - the GNU Project and the Free Software Foundation (FSF)

01:09 schestowitz[TR]; Suntec City

01:09 schestowitz[TR]; nice building

01:09 schestowitz[TR]; we went there

01:09 schestowitz[TR]; "We have released GNOME 1.0, the GNU Network Object Model Environment. You can get it from ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/ or one of its mirrors

01:09 schestowitz[TR]; "

01:09 schestowitz[TR]; https://web.archive.org/web/19990418002947/http://www.fsf.org:80/

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01:09 TR Bot; GNU's Not Unix! - the GNU Project and the Free Software Foundation (FSF)

01:09 schestowitz[TR]; "Updated: 18 Mar 1999 greve"

01:09 schestowitz[TR]; THAT greve?

01:10 matey; he was at the fsf at one point, wasnt he?

01:10 matey; before fsfe

01:10 matey; good time to point out that the fsfe STILL provides infrastructure to fsfla.

01:10 matey; (for better or worse)

01:11 matey; fsfla outsources

01:11 matey; loyalists outsourcing to attackers

01:11 matey; not unlike gnu/github

01:11 matey; i consider fsfla stallman loyalists (probably)

01:11 schestowitz[TR]; "Updated: $Date: 2001/05/04 17:57:47 $ $Author: bkuhn $"

01:11 matey; and fsfe attackers (Without question)

01:11 schestowitz[TR]; kuhn 21 years ago

01:11 schestowitz[TR]; https://web.archive.org/web/20010517040829/http://www.fsf.org:80/

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01:11 TR Bot; GNU's Not Unix! - the GNU Project and the Free Software Foundation (FSF)

01:12 matey; yeah bkuhn was the first executive director

01:12 matey; oops

01:12 matey; he got the idea that his job was being stallmans babysitter

01:12 schestowitz[TR]; 2002: "Updated: $Date: 2002/05/24 17:51:35 $ $Author: rao $"

01:12 matey; who decided that stallman needed one?

01:12 matey; maybe kuhn did

01:12 matey; sometimes people are given a job and carve out a niche doing something related

01:13 matey; that certainly describes kuhns career

01:13 matey; its a minor detail that he carved it in stallmans back with the knife he took back out of it

01:14 matey; but nobody tells bradley m. kuhn that his position is a conflict of interest!

01:14 matey; he will show you what a conflict of interest REALLY IS!

01:14 matey; hi, im bradley m. kuhn. I AM free software.

01:15 matey; move over richard, everyone bow down to ME.

01:15 matey; was he cloned from esrs fleshlight or what?

01:16 schestowitz[TR]; flash?

01:16 matey; not a typo

01:16 matey; have fun looking that up

01:17 matey; to say the least, it would be an easy way to get esrs dna

01:17 matey; and it fits with a theme rms started about being the "father of open source"

01:18 matey; it also implies esr has one, which throws all male-kind under the bus a little at his expense

01:18 matey; but as long as theres any shame in (everybody) doing that it still works as a joke

01:18 schestowitz[TR]; hjopefulyl fsf solld those shitcoins early enough

01:19 schestowitz[TR]; https://web.archive.org/web/20120712024632/https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-announces-winner-of-restricted-boot-webcomic-contest

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01:19 TR Bot; FSF announces winner of Restricted Boot webcomic contest Free Software Foundation working together for free software

01:19 matey; /me makes an instructable for turning an fsf water bottle into a fleshlight

01:19 schestowitz[TR]; later they gave AWARD to UEFI booster

01:19 matey; i mean, its more representative of what the organisation does now anyway

01:19 schestowitz[TR]; while taking MONEY from UEFI companies

01:20 matey; later they gave AWARD to UEFI booster <- i cant begin to guess WHO this refers to :)

01:20 schestowitz[TR]; I am taking screenshos of fsf homepage every year for the past 24 years

01:21 matey; "why should corporations be the only one to fuck gnu? with an fsf-brand water bottle and some "playful cleverness", you can turn this overpriced trinket into a VERY SPECIAL friend!

01:23 matey; I am taking screenshos of fsf homepage every year for the past 24 years <- i recommend registering trarchive.org

01:24 schestowitz[TR]; we don't delete old material

01:24 schestowitz[TR]; and the layout rarely changes

01:24 schestowitz[TR]; so far

01:25 schestowitz[TR]; fsf site changed a lot

01:25 schestowitz[TR]; you will see shortly

01:25 matey; ive noticed

01:25 schestowitz[TR]; many cms changes too

01:25 schestowitz[TR]; I think they used plome before

01:25 schestowitz[TR]; plone

01:25 matey; they may have

01:25 matey; /me has indeed noticed the website change over the years

01:25 matey; i remember before it was truly graphical

01:25 schestowitz[TR]; guy at pub: I used to be a footbal mate! I was a Man United striker!

01:26 matey; i remember that changing

01:26 schestowitz[TR]; geek at conference: I was the developer of PLONE

01:26 schestowitz[TR]; audience: what??

01:26 matey; /me seems to think one of the developers of PLONE was also the fucking cunt who decided that a checkbox to not show images or load js in mozilla were things that BROKE THE INTERNET

01:27 matey; it wasnt just that he removed them that pissed me off

01:27 schestowitz[TR]; the popups started 2018

01:27 matey; it was the load of industrial-grade, carlin-parodied bullshit that he drenched it with

01:27 matey; the popups started 2018 <- yeah, they even infect the archives.

01:27 matey; whoever added those should probably just be thrown onto the list of traitors

01:28 matey; (theyre probably on it already)

01:28 schestowitz[TR]; btw, is zoe a coder?

01:28 schestowitz[TR]; I don't think greg is

01:28 schestowitz[TR]; he was herding cattle

01:28 matey; i dont think zoe codes, at least if she does ive never read anything about her work

01:28 schestowitz[TR]; not herding gnus

01:29 matey; greg can be amish if hes worth half a fucking damn in ANYTHING he does there.

01:29 matey; /me should be saying they

01:29 matey; gregs non-binary i think

01:29 matey; greg can be amish if theyre worth half a fucking damn in ANYTHING they do there.

01:30 matey; "they" im fine with. i dont get into the ones i dont know how to spell.

01:30 matey; i also dont know anyone who uses those.

01:31 schestowitz[TR]; https://web.archive.org/web/20210730202348/https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/fsf-funded-call-for-white-papers-on-philosophical-and-legal-questions-around-copilot

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01:31 schestowitz[TR]; white paper:

01:31 TR Bot; FSF-funded call for white papers on philosophical and legal questions around Copilot Free Software Foundation Working together for free software

01:31 schestowitz[TR]; me: it's run by a psychopath

01:31 schestowitz[TR]; he also assults women

01:31 schestowitz[TR]; github pettiion: rms looks funny at women

01:32 matey; you wont impress coc-suckers with pointing at double standards

01:32 schestowitz[TR]; I know

01:32 schestowitz[TR]; they don't have a petition fopr bil

01:32 matey; the whole thing is built on double standards. its literally ONLY a double standard when their opponent does it

01:32 schestowitz[TR]; who helped epstein

01:32 schestowitz[TR]; even after the conviction

01:32 matey; yes, thats a double standard. wait, no its not! see how that works?

01:33 *psydruid wonders if that football mate was Ruud van Nistelrooy

01:33 matey; you have a double standard, and i have a double standard, but theres a nuance

01:33 matey; Ruud van Nistelrooy <- this sounds like its from a dutch...

01:33 matey; independent film.

01:34 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> they don't have a petition fopr bil <- its like the difference between murdering a person and murdering hundreds of thousands of people.

01:35 matey; if you murder someone, you might get probation. if you murder a few people, you might get death

01:35 matey; if you murder 200 people you get a medal, and if you murder hundreds of thousands, you get re-elected.

01:37 MinceR; if you murder millions, you are worshipped

01:37 matey; bill gates could run through town setting peoples houses on fire and the media would say it was a charity event.

01:37 matey; if you murder millions, you are worshipped <- fair point

01:39 AdmFubar; well he certainly burned a lot of computer users

01:49 TR News; The Web Site of the FSF Throughout the Years | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/fsf-site-memory-lane/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/09/fsf-site-memory-lane/

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01:49 TR Bot; The Web Site of the FSF Throughout the Years | Techrights

01:49 schestowitz[TR]; matey: ^

01:51 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D287.jpg

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01:51 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D638.jpg

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01:52 TR News; gopher gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/gopher.gmi "nofer: a gemini to gopher bridge"

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01:53 TR News; The targets, which NASA announced yesterday we selected by an International committee of scientists from NASA, ESA, CSA and the Space Telescope Science Institute in Maryland, which manages the observatory" gemini://ibannieto.info/gemlog/2022-07-09.gmi

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01:57 TR News; Well out of data already: "Dump done on 2021-12-17 19:13:37Z. We show only capsules with a recent (less than 31 days) successful connection." gemini://ew.srht.site/library/gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/lupa-capsules.gmi

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01:58 TR News; "I have a flip phone (its much less distracting than a smartphone)" gemini://dj-chase.com/documents/mutt-cron-text-yourself-weather.gmi

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02:03 TR News; Aged 30, Richard Stallman quit his job at MIT (where he continued to live until 1998 when he was still the editor of the FSFs Web site); the above helps show the dynamics of the organisation throughout the years http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/fsf-site-memory-lane/

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02:04 schestowitz[TR]; checking when fsf starrted having "patrons"

02:04 schestowitz[TR]; https://web.archive.org/web/20060305124429/http://www.fsf.org/

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02:04 TR Bot; FSF - The Free Software Foundation

02:04 schestowitz[TR]; 2006 has "members"

02:04 schestowitz[TR]; and "donate"

02:05 schestowitz[TR]; 2007 https://web.archive.org/web/20070428000548/https://www.fsf.org/

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02:05 TR Bot; FSF - The Free Software Foundation

02:05 schestowitz[TR]; patrons started 2008

02:05 schestowitz[TR]; at least based on the homepage

02:05 schestowitz[TR]; https://web.archive.org/web/20080510022644/http://www.fsf.org/donate/patron

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02:05 TR Bot; Current Patrons - Free Software Foundation

02:06 schestowitz[TR]; wait, nop

02:06 schestowitz[TR]; it was linked before that, just not from front p[age

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02:06 schestowitz[TR]; top sponsors:

02:06 schestowitz[TR]; Gulag and ICBM

02:06 schestowitz[TR]; fter that Sun, HP, EMC

02:06 schestowitz[TR]; *after

02:06 schestowitz[TR]; 2007 https://web.archive.org/web/20070329011452/http://www.fsf.org/donate/patron

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02:07 TR Bot; FSF - Corporate Patron Program

02:07 schestowitz[TR]; Nokia, MySQL, Sun... Samsung.. Intel, ICBM

02:07 schestowitz[TR]; no tiers

02:07 schestowitz[TR]; even my employer is listed

02:07 schestowitz[TR]; sponsor in 2007

02:08 schestowitz[TR]; it says 2005 had a snapshot for the page

02:09 schestowitz[TR]; but it is lost now

02:09 schestowitz[TR]; https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.fsf.org/donate/patron

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02:09 TR Bot; Wayback Machine

02:10 schestowitz[TR]; thw two snapshots from 2005 are broken

02:11 schestowitz[TR]; Earliest WORKING snapshot: https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.fsf.org/donate/patron

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02:11 schestowitz[TR]; July 15th 2006

02:11 schestowitz[TR]; months before the Novell/Microsoft deal

02:12 schestowitz[TR]; they were already negotiating their patent collusion

02:12 schestowitz[TR]; my employer was listed as sponsor that year too

02:12 schestowitz[TR]; Novell was FSF sponsor

02:12 schestowitz[TR]; interesting

02:12 schestowitz[TR]; and yet the FSF spoke out against the deal

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02:16 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software_Foundation

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02:16 TR Bot; Free Software Foundation - Wikipedia

02:16 schestowitz[TR]; "Most of the FSF funding comes from patrons and members.[67] Revenue streams also come from free-software-related compliance labs, job postings, published works, and a web store. FSF offers speakers and seminars for pay, and all FSF projects accept donations.

02:16 schestowitz[TR]; "

02:16 schestowitz[TR]; "

02:16 schestowitz[TR]; On November 25, 2002, the FSF launched the FSF Associate Membership program for individuals."

02:16 schestowitz[TR]; Does not say when c corporate sponsorship started

02:18 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ravicher

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02:18 TR Bot; Daniel Ravicher - Wikipedia

02:18 schestowitz[TR]; he is anow a strident right winger

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02:34 matey; 07/10/22 01:12 <schestowitz[TR]> interesting

02:34 matey; the fsf: it used to stand for what it said it did

02:35 matey; Most of the FSF funding comes from patrons and members.

02:35 schestowitz[TR]; wait

02:35 matey; and all FSF projects accept donations.

02:35 schestowitz[TR]; doing a post

02:35 matey; ok

02:35 matey; making a point

02:35 schestowitz[TR]; "Some "patrons" do not age well..."

02:36 matey; if you want to attack the fsf less directly

02:36 matey; you can do it via individual projects

02:36 matey; Most of the FSF funding | and all FSF projects accept

02:36 schestowitz[TR]; this programme was misguided

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02:36 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, July 09, 2022

02:36 schestowitz[TR]; nad risky

02:36 schestowitz[TR]; it also alienates member

02:36 matey; it does not say that most of the fsf projects get their money from patrons and members

02:36 schestowitz[TR]; sthey can never compete

02:36 schestowitz[TR]; like voters who raise money for "bernie"

02:36 schestowitz[TR]; and then comcast, gulag, microsofet al shill for biden

02:36 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> it also alienates member <- heres the problem

02:37 schestowitz[TR]; and he steales the nomination

02:37 matey; the fsf works like any other 501c3

02:37 matey; its barely capable of not ending up in this position eventually.

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02:37 matey; its just a corporation with different rules around taxes and funding.

02:37 matey; those "rules around taxes and funding" certainly cover a lot of details (and other areas)

02:38 matey; but the 501c3 status is what makes all this happen / inevitable

02:38 matey; theyre basically obligated to sell out eventually

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02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, July 09, 2022

02:38 matey; now, if i were stallman, and knew that, i would have been warning people from day 1

02:38 schestowitz[TR]; this is as draft

02:38 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/novell-as-patron-of-fsf/

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02:38 matey; my guess? he had people in charge of worrying about that.

02:38 TR Bot; Novell Was an Early FSF Sponsor and Patron the Year It Sold Out to Microsoft | Techrights

02:38 schestowitz[TR]; any thoughts?

02:38 schestowitz[TR]; it'll make it into today's bulletin

02:38 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> any thoughts? <- too many to mention

02:39 matey; stallman, like nearly any geek in his position

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02:39 matey; he probably never got into the nitty gritty of 501c3 shit

02:39 matey; im not saying he should have (per se)

02:39 matey; instead he entrusted other people with that. almost anyone would.

02:40 matey; there are poeple who understand causes

02:40 matey; he was one of them

02:40 matey; there are people who understand orgs

02:40 matey; stallman, im sure, was NOT one of them

02:40 matey; he always had other people doing that

02:40 matey; compromise THOSE people, the org dies

02:40 matey; but-- in "fairness"

02:40 matey; THOSE people have the job of focusing on the 501c3-ish-ness

02:40 matey; and what im saying is

02:41 matey; its the 501c3-ishness itself that is bullshit

02:41 matey; sooner or later, your 501c3 will do this

02:41 matey; become a magnet for corporations that your cause rubs up against (usually in a chafing way)

02:41 matey; who then start using money as lubricant

02:41 matey; who know how to keep an org off their backs

02:41 matey; that happened to the fsf

02:41 matey; it compromised the org

02:42 matey; stallman probably didnt know, and he wasnt in any position to do anything

02:42 matey; so the people he entrusted EITHER betrayed him, let him down without being at fault, or a mix of both

02:42 matey; but again: it was BOUND to happen eventually

02:42 matey; this changes none of what ive said about open source

02:42 matey; they had a mission to do this

02:43 matey; more bradley, um, broadly than that, this is what happens to 501c3 orgs.

02:43 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-07-09.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-07-09.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)

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02:43 matey; the two go together.

02:43 matey; orgs fall apart. open source wanted that.

02:43 matey; peanut butter and chocolate.

02:46 TR News; Novell Was an Early FSF Sponsor and Patron the Year It Sold Out to Microsoft | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/novell-as-patron-of-fsf/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/09/novell-as-patron-of-fsf/

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02:46 matey; what should have happened, years ago

02:46 TR Bot; Novell Was an Early FSF Sponsor and Patron the Year It Sold Out to Microsoft | Techrights

02:46 matey; was people getting ready for this with the writing on the wall

02:46 matey; and bolstering the movement

02:46 matey; instead, they bolstered the corporations

02:46 matey; like fighting fire with petrol.

02:47 matey; people will still move away from the corruption and rebuild free software

02:48 matey; now it will take a decade plus longer to do it

02:48 matey; far more will be lost, on a scale it takes people years to fathom and they still dont get it

02:48 matey; and all in all it will hurt a lot more this way

02:48 matey; but it will still get done

02:48 matey; its too bad more people didnt start thinking about this years ago

02:49 matey; but make no mistake, some did

02:49 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: some more tables at the TM DB are failing, we need to move to the new CMS soon to avoid data loss

02:49 matey; you know we used to believe fsf would give a shit about systemd

02:49 matey; a LONG LONG time ago

02:49 matey; thats when we found out what stallman really thinks about unix

02:49 schestowitz[TR]; Red Hat was a sponsor

02:49 matey; the design

02:49 schestowitz[TR]; he focused on the licence

02:50 schestowitz[TR]; not the design

02:50 matey; Red Hat was a sponsor <- thats like saying mlk jr was a sponsor of the civil rights movement

02:50 schestowitz[TR]; but the designed he copied was unix

02:50 matey; they were a little bit more than a sponsor

02:50 matey; but the designed he copied was unix <- and we mistook that for appreciation

02:50 schestowitz[TR]; it was more convenient tro replace existing tools or impmentations

02:50 matey; really, he was very open about the fact that he used it just because it made his job easy

02:51 matey; we projected an ideal of portability and making forking / freedom 3 easier

02:51 matey; we imagined an ally in that

02:51 matey; he never was. and he doesnt have to be, but that means freedom 3 would suffer like it does today

02:51 matey; it was a flaw in his philosophy

02:51 matey; he didnt realise that the 4 freedoms were supported by DE FACTO things

02:52 matey; he just thought "lets prop up these very good things"

02:52 matey; over the years, gnu gutted these de facto supports for the 4 freedoms

02:52 matey; above all, freedom 4-- the freedom to remove the software

02:52 matey; without that, its nothing but a set of free shackles, with the HYPOTHETICAL freedom to change the shackle

02:52 matey; thats what systemd is

02:52 matey; and stallman remains clueless about it

02:53 matey; you just cant tell him

02:53 matey; same problem with freedom threats moving from sw to hw

02:53 matey; he doesnt get it

02:53 schestowitz[TR]; he does

02:53 matey; and you can try to find a way for him to get it for YEARS

02:53 matey; and he deosnt

02:53 schestowitz[TR]; but he feels poweless against it

02:53 schestowitz[TR]; except they speak out

02:53 schestowitz[TR]; e.f. DBD

02:53 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> he does <- youve flat out made things up about this.

02:54 schestowitz[TR]; they did speak about the hardware side issue

02:54 matey; DBD <- dbd is an exception

02:54 schestowitz[TR]; that's why they demand no blogs like firmware

02:54 matey; in general he does not get hardware threats.

02:54 schestowitz[TR]; brb

02:54 matey; drm is an exception, but drm can be a software thing too

02:54 matey; to him it doesnt matter-- drm is drm

02:55 matey; at any rate if you talk to the hardware people

02:55 matey; youll see what he doesnt get

02:55 matey; you cant really determine what he doesnt get by staring at the things he does.

02:55 matey; unless theyre really the same thing (but of course, theyre not)

02:56 TR News; This Week in Linux 205: Linux Laptops, Darktable, Xonotic, Team Fortress 2, 30 Years OpenGL and more Linux news! - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-205/ Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux

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02:56 TR Bot; Linux Laptops, Darktable, Xonotic, Team Fortress 2, 30 Years OpenGL and more Linux news! - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital

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03:17 matey; http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/novell-as-patron-of-fsf/ <- youre still phrasing this as though its something thats going to happen

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03:17 TR Bot; Novell Was an Early FSF Sponsor and Patron the Year It Sold Out to Microsoft | Techrights

03:17 matey; that trick has a place. (this isnt it)

03:17 matey; ive used that trick many times, and it goes like this:

03:17 matey; 1. we can see whats happening NOW

03:18 matey; 2. but the public has an institutional inertia that keeps them seeing what HAPPENED for some time

03:18 matey; so you phrase things that are happening now as "will happen"

03:18 matey; to make them think about the PRESENT, despite the fact that their past NEGATES (overrides) any awareness of the present.

03:19 matey; moving it to the future (note: theres an entire genre that works this way-- called sci-fi) gives people a new way to look at whats happening.

03:20 matey; theres a famous quote about "the future is already here" that begs people to do this.

03:20 matey; its relevant

03:20 matey; but heres the thing

03:20 matey; when the fsf has been doing this for the better part of a decade

03:20 matey; or more than a decade

03:20 matey; its time to stop pretending thats off in the future

03:20 matey; it happened

03:21 matey; when it was really news, that was the time to say "warning, heres whats going to happen"

03:21 TR News; European Patent Office (EPO) Condemned Again by Judges at the Administrative Tribunal of the International Labour Organisation (ILOAT) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/iloat-epo-issues-again/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/09/iloat-epo-issues-again/

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03:21 TR Bot; European Patent Office (EPO) Condemned Again by Judges at the Administrative Tribunal of the International Labour Organisation (ILOAT) | Techrights

03:21 matey; Novell gave money to the FSF and yet the FSF immediately spoke out against Novells deal; but such conflicts of interest did occasionally cause trouble and, charting Linux Foundation territories/waters, this can lead to trouble.

03:21 matey; you almost admit it:

03:22 matey; " did occasionally cause trouble" | "can lead to trouble."

03:22 matey; but there it is: youre going backwards, from "here is a crisis" to "this COULD become a crisis"

03:22 matey; if you go in that direction, youre not warning people: youre admitting it then backpedalling

03:22 matey; youre downplaying.

03:23 schestowitz[TR]; not sure if fsf banished novell after that

03:23 schestowitz[TR]; see the wayback machine

03:23 schestowitz[TR]; fro 2007

03:23 matey; politicians do it: admit the problem, then after admitting it, they sort of slowly back away from it

03:23 matey; this has to stop (i know it wont, just saying) if the real purpose is to warn the others.

03:23 schestowitz[TR]; ron hoovsepian stopped paying fsf

03:23 schestowitz[TR]; started paaying his lawyer to pester me

03:24 matey; ron hoovsepian stopped paying fsf | started paaying his lawyer to pester me <- i wont even say what i think of this

03:25 AdmFubar; https://www.pogowasright.org/after-dobbs-advocates-fear-school-surveillance-tools-could-put-teens-at-risk/

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03:25 TR Bot; After Dobbs, Advocates Fear School Surveillance Tools Could Put Teens at Risk

03:26 matey; as for this one http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/arrest-and-trial-of-alex-graveley/

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03:26 TR Bot; [Teaser] Inside the Arrest and Trial of Microsofts Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot | Techrights

03:27 matey; theres something wrong with it you cant fix

03:27 matey; the industry is in charge of who can cancel whom

03:27 matey; youre not on the list.

03:27 matey; you cant cancel anyone

03:28 matey; so if you report these scandals, its almost like (and uim being deliberately cynical here, which doesnt mean its untrue)

03:28 matey; "the evidence is inadmissible"

03:28 matey; if youre a cop and you break into someones home in the usa

03:28 matey; and you have no warrant

03:28 matey; theres a risk (it doesnt always work out this way of course) that the evidence will be ignored-- by constitutional law

03:29 matey; it can be literally right there on the table where the jury can see it

03:29 matey; theyre not allowed to take it into account

03:29 matey; because youre not on the list of people who can cancel people

03:29 matey; a list which naturally, doesnt exist in any concrete sense-- its arbitrary, but youre DEFINITELY not on it

03:30 matey; anything you say about these people is inadmissible

03:30 matey; it doesnt apply

03:30 matey; and more to the point, it wont be taken into account.

03:30 matey; of course some of us dont care about that

03:30 matey; but we are also the ones who are already anti-github so it doesnt sway us either.

03:30 matey; we dont go "well shit, now we REALLY hate github"

03:30 matey; it was already crap

03:31 matey; people are reading that story for entertainment purposes only.

03:31 matey; theyre not making decisions based on it

03:31 matey; because thats not how it works.

03:31 matey; of course you should publish it anyway, because you want to.

03:32 matey; what you shouldnt ever do is be surprised when it has no effect on github at all

03:32 matey; youre not on the list, it doesnt matter what you say about the people involved.

03:32 matey; you cant get on the list

03:32 matey; its invitation only

03:32 matey; you wont be invited-- youre not their type at all.

03:32 matey; quite the opposite

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03:33 matey; you can document the hypocrisy, the double standards of course

03:33 matey; but it wont change github.

03:33 matey; its the same with bill gates, only moreso

03:34 matey; someday this will change

03:34 matey; but not before the whole goddamned thing is overhauled

03:34 matey; which will happen

03:35 matey; bill gates can do whatever he pleases, calling him out just moves people from the list of those who can call people out to the list of those whose opinions are not admissible

03:36 matey; at least as far as media goes

03:36 matey; as far as industry goes

03:36 matey; wherever industry touches

03:36 matey; it wont count.

03:42 TR News; [Meme] Antnio Campinos Reacts to Latest Rulings From the Administrative Tribunal of the International Labour Organisation (ILOAT) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/f-ing-ilo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/09/f-ing-ilo/

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03:42 TR Bot; [Meme] Antnio Campinos Reacts to Latest Rulings From the Administrative Tribunal of the International Labour Organisation (ILOAT) | Techrights

03:44 TR News; As recently noted here, bagging a lot of money from large corporations (not individual members) is a risky move; its what killed the OSI and made the so-called Linux Foundation obsolete (habitual lobby against the interests of Linux) http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/novell-as-patron-of-fsf/

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03:44 TR Bot; Novell Was an Early FSF Sponsor and Patron the Year It Sold Out to Microsoft | Techrights

03:52 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/gun-applicants-in-ny-will-have-to-hand-over-social-accounts/

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03:52 TR Bot; Gun applicants in NY will have to list social media accounts | WGN-TV

03:52 DaemonFC; Another bullshit idea from a bullshit political party.

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4 AM, July 10

04:01 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/10/new-york-state-passes-law-to-take-away-second-amendment-rights-based-on-your-social-media-posts/

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04:01 TR Bot; New York State passes law to take away Second Amendment rights based on your Social Media posts. BaronHK's Rants

04:02 DaemonFC; "Sheriffs havent received additional money or staffing to handle a new application process, said Peter Kehoe, the executive director of the New York Sheriffs Association. The law, he asserted, infringes on Second Amendment rights, and while applicants must list their social media accounts, he doesnt think local officials will necessarily look at them."

04:02 DaemonFC; LOL

04:02 DaemonFC; List them, but we don't have any staffing to look at them.

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04:35 DaemonFC; https://www.usacarry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/2014-causes-of-death.jpg

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04:35 DaemonFC; Seasonal flu kills more Americans than all causes of suicide.

04:35 DaemonFC; It doesn't break out firearm suicide, but that's probably like a quarter to a third, I'd imagine.

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05:32 psydruid; No wonder this condescending BS got removed from the UN site

05:32 psydruid; https://web.archive.org/web/20220705153241/https://www.un.org/en/chronicle/article/benefits-world-hunger

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05:32 TR Bot; The Benefits of World Hunger | United Nations

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05:33 matey; No wonder this condescending BS

05:34 matey; they spelled "cunt" wrong

05:34 matey; but its fucking weird though

05:35 matey; he wrote a book with a title that implies adequate food is a human right?

05:35 matey; /me shrugs

05:35 matey; this is why the futurama/fry meme exists

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6 AM, July 10

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06:19 DaemonFC; he wrote a book with a title that implies adequate food is a human right?

06:20 DaemonFC; Most countries don't recognize water as a human right and it doesn't even actually cost much and you die in like 3 or 4 days without it.

06:20 DaemonFC; Why? Well, the Democrats don't want to say water is a human right.

06:20 DaemonFC; They keep jacking up the cost of water. It has nothing to do with the cost of providing water anymore.

06:21 DaemonFC; They just raise it every year so they can waste the money on themselves, the public union crooks digging up roads that have nothing wrong with them, and the teachers that keep putting out the dumbest adults ever.

06:21 DaemonFC; Roughly in that order.

06:21 DaemonFC; If the Democrats declare water to be a human right, it would obligate them to provide some water to people so they don't die of thirst.

06:23 DaemonFC; At one point, the Big Dig in Massachusetts became something you could point to if you needed to say how the Democrats were too corrupt and stupid to entrust a public works project to.

06:23 DaemonFC; But in Illinois, the road construction on the Tollway that's been going on since before I got here in 2016 and seems to have made no progress since then has taken that crown away.

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06:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-09.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-10.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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06:46 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, July 09, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext

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06:46 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives

06:46 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing

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06:46 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index

06:50 TR News; ILOAT sees more violations of staff rights at European Patent Office, says this new blog post, but do not expect any so-called journalists to even mention it (the publishers are bribed and complicit) http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/iloat-epo-issues-again/

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06:50 TR Bot; European Patent Office (EPO) Condemned Again by Judges at the Administrative Tribunal of the International Labour Organisation (ILOAT) | Techrights

06:50 TR News; EPO President (auctioned role) Antnio Campinos doesnt care what judges say, especially judges that he does not control http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/f-ing-ilo/

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06:50 TR Bot; [Meme] Antnio Campinos Reacts to Latest Rulings From the Administrative Tribunal of the International Labour Organisation (ILOAT) | Techrights

06:52 TR News; Surveillance that's useless. You can just say you have no such account. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/10/new-york-state-passes-law-to-take-away-second-amendment-rights-based-on-your-social-media-posts/

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06:52 TR Bot; New York State passes law to take away Second Amendment rights based on your Social Media posts. BaronHK's Rants

06:54 TR News; "AlizaMS is released under the GPL-3.0 License" https://medevel.com/alizams/

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06:54 TR Bot; Aliza MS: is an Open Source Free DICOM Viewer for Windows, Linux, and macOS

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07:00 TR News; "The Software has been developed for research purposes only and is not a clinical tool." ~= "Open Source" https://medevel.com/mricrogl-dicom/

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07:00 TR Bot; MRIcroGL: Open Siurce ICOM and NIFTI Viewer and Volume Renderer

07:01 TR News; Espressif unveils "One-Stop Matter Solution" for ESP32 wireless SoCs - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/10/espressif-one-stop-matter-solution-esp32-wifi-thread/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware

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07:01 TR Bot; Espressif unveils "One-Stop Matter Solution" for ESP32 wireless SoC's - CNX Software

07:06 TR News; 10 Most Common Mistakes That Java Developers Make https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/10-most-common-mistakes-that-java-developers-make/

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07:06 TR Bot; 10 Most Common Mistakes That Java Developers Make - GeeksforGeeks

07:07 TR News; "We are proud to announce the release of PowerDNS Recursor 4.7.1." https://blog.powerdns.com/2022/07/08/powerdns-recursor-4-7-1-released/

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07:07 TR Bot; PowerDNS Recursor 4.7.1 Released | PowerDNS Blog

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07:16 TR News; Unequal Speech: How to Explain the Contradictory Criticism of the CRTC Radio-Canada Decision and Support for Bill C-11 https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/07/unequal-speech-how-to-explain-the-contradictory-criticism-of-the-crtc-radio-canada-decision-and-support-for-bill-c-11/

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07:16 TR Bot; Unequal Speech: How to Explain the Contradictory Criticism of the CRTC Radio-Canada Decision and Support for Bill C-11 - Michael Geist

07:17 TR News; The Freedom of Expression Wake Up Call: Why the CRTCs Radio-Canada Ruling Eviscerates the Defence of Bill C-11 https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/07/the-freedom-of-expression-wake-up-call-why-the-crtcs-radio-canada-ruling-eviscerates-the-defence-of-bill-c-11/

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07:17 TR Bot; The Freedom of Expression Wake Up Call: Why the CRTC's Radio-Canada Ruling Eviscerates the Defence of Bill C-11 - Michael Geist

07:18 TR News; "I have just updated my detailed reviews of Graphical User Interfaces (GUIs) for R, so lets compare them again." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/updated-comparison-of-r-graphical-user-interfaces/

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07:18 TR Bot; Comparison of R Graphical User Interfaces | R-bloggers

07:19 TR News; R developers prefer GNU/Linux https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/how-to-install-r-3-6-3-not-4-on-linux-mint-19-x-19-1-19-2-19-3/

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07:19 TR Bot; to install R 3.6.3 (NOT 4+) on Linux MINT 19.x (19.1, 19.2, 19.3) | R-bloggers

07:20 TR News; "When programming, we often need to write generic functions where the exact data type is not important. For example, you might want to write a simple function that sums up numbers." https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/08/go-generics-are-not-bad/

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07:20 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/08/go-generics-are-not-bad/ )

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07:21 TR News; Swarm x SparkFun - News - SparkFun Electronics https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4860 "Today's guest post will focus on the capabilities of Swarm, and Swarms network architecture in conjunction with SparkFun."

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07:21 TR Bot; x SparkFun - News - SparkFun Electronics

07:22 TR News; "Let's have a quick and dirty blog post listing all the additions to our app list in the second quarter of 2022!" https://linuxphoneapps.org/blog/new-listed-apps-q2-2022/

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07:22 TR Bot; apps of LinuxPhoneApps.org, Q2/2022 | LinuxPhoneApps

07:24 TR News; Adapting Videos Into Comics gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1066

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07:25 TR News; "Following a recent landmark SCOTUS ruling, many have been trying to publish resources to help people find reproductive healthcare. They often wish to publish anonymously, to avoid being harassed or doxxed by overzealous religious fundamentalists. Some people asked me for help." gemini://seirdy.one/posts/2022/07/09/stylometric-fingerprinting-redux/index.gmi

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07:25 TR News; "From what I've seen, it's a pretty common belief across Geminispace and Gopherspace that social media is not healthy or good for people. I agree, and I've decided to write a little bit about my experience with social media." gemini://eph.smol.pub/1657427715

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07:27 TR News; "What a mess. Nowadays I write in Geminispace, shitpost on imageboards, and talk with a few friends over Discord. I really don't like 'traditional' social media because it exacerbates any self-loathing or low self-esteem I might have just to make money for itself." gemini://eph.smol.pub/1657427715

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07:28 TR News; "Its now officially too dangerous to have a Social (Control) Media account in New York State." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/10/new-york-state-passes-law-to-take-away-second-amendment-rights-based-on-your-social-media-posts/

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07:29 TR News; "This idea of including handing over your Social (Control) Media handles to the Illinois State Police was floated as a proposed amendment to the unconstitutional and impotent FOID Act." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/10/new-york-state-passes-law-to-take-away-second-amendment-rights-based-on-your-social-media-posts/

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07:35 TR News; Links 10/07/2022: QCoro 0.6.0 and Voice 0.0.6 for GNOME 43 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/10/qcoro-0-6-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/10/qcoro-0-6-0/

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07:35 TR Bot; Links 10/07/2022: QCoro 0.6.0 and Voice 0.0.6 for GNOME 43 | Techrights

07:36 TR News; Programming

07:37 TR News; Devices and Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167041

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07:37 TR Bot; Devices and Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines

07:37 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167042

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07:37 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

07:37 TR News; New apps of LinuxPhoneApps.org and Software Reviews/Overviews Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167043

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07:37 TR Bot; New apps of LinuxPhoneApps.org and Software Reviews/Overviews | Tux Machines

07:39 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167044

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07:39 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines

07:43 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167044

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07:54 DaemonFC; http://www.thegunmag.com/illinois-lawmakers-want-social-media-check-for-foid/

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07:54 TR Bot; lawmakers want social media check for FOID - TheGunMag - The Official Gun Magazine of the Second Amendment FoundationTheGunMag The Official Gun Magazine of the Second Amendment Foundation

07:55 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], "disagreeable content" can cause FOID cards to be revoked under the proposal the Democrats introduced in 2019.

07:55 DaemonFC; I'm sure that will come up again now.

07:55 DaemonFC; "Delete Facebook"

07:56 DaemonFC; They're not defining it. They don't say "based on these criteria" and "when it is clear that this person is threatening people or posting suicide threats".

07:56 DaemonFC; Just whatever "disagreeable" means.

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8 AM, July 10

08:04 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: can't believe you are still "on" FB

08:13 DaemonFC; Barely.

08:14 DaemonFC; I don't really post anything to my "wall".

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08:24 TR News; Entering Phase Two of Life https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/phase-two-of-life/ Personal autonomy and freedom are connected to self-determination in digital realm, more so over time.

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08:24 TR Bot; Blog Archive Entering Phase Two of Life

08:26 TR News; What Is GNOME in Linux? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167045

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08:26 TR Bot; What Is GNOME in Linux? | Tux Machines

08:27 schestowitz[TR]; I've put this in daily links, blog re sirius ^

08:28 schestowitz[TR]; it's worded carefully

08:51 TR News; Links 10/07/2022: QCoro 0.6.0 and Voice 0.0.6 for GNOME 43 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/10/qcoro-0-6-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/10/qcoro-0-6-0/

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09:01 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, July 09, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/10/irc-log-090722/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/10/irc-log-090722/

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09:01 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, July 09, 2022 | Techrights

09:02 TR News; NHS Breaking Its Promise in Order to Help COVID-19 Spread While Were Blindfolded https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/nhs-numbers-4pm-next-week-but-never-mind/

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09:02 TR Bot; Blog Archive NHS Breaking Its Promise in Order to Help COVID-19 Spread While Were Blindfolded

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09:19 TR News; This Domain is Over 18, But the Site is 20 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/this-domain-is-over-18/

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09:19 TR Bot; Blog Archive This Domain is Over 18, But the Site is 20

09:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-09.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-10.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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09:33 TR News; Self-Hosting Your Photos and Reaching Over 5 Million Views (You Dont Need Facebook/Instagram, Flickr, and Other Social Control Media) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/our-wedding-and-beyond-album/

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09:33 TR Bot; Blog Archive Self-Hosting Your Photos and Reaching Over 5 Million Views (You Dont Need Facebook/Instagram, Flickr, and Other Social Control Media)

10 AM, July 10

10:43 TR News; England Swings Back to Excess Deaths (Exceedingly High Mortality Rates in Summertime) With COVID-19 Surge https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/covid-19-summer-exceeding-normal-mortality/

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10:43 TR Bot; Blog Archive England Swings Back to Excess Deaths (Exceedingly High Mortality Rates in Summertime) With COVID-19 Surge

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11:03 TR News; Twitter will die soon (2-5 years), maybe absorbed for "assets" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/08/musks-attempt-to-get-out-of-the-twitter-deal-proceeding-exactly-as-predicted-what-happens-next/

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11:03 TR Bot; Attempt To Get Out Of The Twitter Deal Proceeding Exactly As Predicted; What Happens Next? | Techdirt

11:09 TR News; "Finally, as the last part of the blog series we will have a look at the network traffic observed" https://blog.nviso.eu/2022/07/06/investigating-an-engineering-workstation-part-4/ | Source: NVISO Labs

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11:09 TR Bot; Investigating an engineering workstation Part 4 NVISO Labs

11:09 TR News; [Old] "The process of installing NixOS on a Raspberry Pi 3 is pretty straightforward" https://citizen428.net/blog/installing-nixos-raspberry-pi-3/ | Source: Michael Kohl

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11:09 TR Bot; NixOS on a Raspberry Pi 3 - citizen428.net

11:10 TR News; "Flask is a microframework written in Python for developing modern web applications and API" https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-flask-with-nginx-and-gunicorn-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Source: HowTo Forge

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11:10 TR Bot; How to Install Flask with Nginx and Gunicorn on Ubuntu 22.04

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11:10 TR News; "Rob Cai over on Instructables has created his own version of the classic video game Space Invaders using an Arduino Nano." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/06/this-small-space-invaders-game-runs-on-an-arduino-nano-with-a-salvaged-crt-display/ | Source: Arduino

=> ↺ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/06/this-small-space-invaders-game-runs-on-an-arduino-nano-with-a-salvaged-crt-display/

11:10 TR Bot; This small Space Invaders game runs on an Arduino Nano with a salvaged CRT display | Arduino Blog

11:10 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: wb

11:11 schestowitz[TR]; I don't really post anything to my "wall".

11:11 schestowitz[TR]; you realise what the js does,, right?

11:12 DaemonFC; On their site, directly?

11:12 schestowitz[TR]; yes

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11:12 schestowitz[TR]; but they sell it

11:12 TR News; "On the GNU/Linux side of the pond, surprisingly, system upgrades have been relatively smooth." https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/kubuntu-impish-jammy-upgrade.html | Source: Dedoimedo

=> ↺ https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/kubuntu-impish-jammy-upgrade.html

11:12 TR Bot; Kubuntu upgrade - from 21.10 to 22.04 - Smooth as silk

11:13 TR News; "Testing was carried out on a computer equipped with an Intel Core i9-12900K processor." https://gadgettendency.com/recent-testing-has-shown-that-windows-11-is-inferior-to-ubuntu-in-terms-of-speed-in-a-number-of-tasks/ |

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11:13 TR Bot; Recent Testing Has Shown That Windows 11 Is Inferior To Ubuntu In Terms Of Speed In A Number Of Tasks. - Gadget Tendency

11:15 TR News; [Old] "he goal: whenever our release script encounters an error, send a notification" https://citizen428.net/blog/bash-error-handling-with-trap/ | Source: Michael Kohl

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11:15 TR Bot; Error Handling with Trap - citizen428.net

11:16 TR News; "Cisco, Deutsche Telekom and Intel are leading the WBA working group that wrote this report" https://staceyoniot.com/wi-fi-gets-ready-for-an-industrial-makeover-with-new-features/ | Source: Stacy on IoT

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11:16 TR Bot; Wi-Fi gets ready for an industrial makeover with new features - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis

11:20 TR News; "Liberty Alliance's map isn't the first of its kind" https://www.salon.com/2022/07/09/the-rights-enemies-list-woke-heat-maps-target-and-track-progressives-for-crack-down/ | Source: Salon

=> ↺ https://www.salon.com/2022/07/09/the-rights-enemies-list-woke-heat-maps-target-and-track-progressives-for-crack-down/

11:20 TR Bot; right's enemies list: "Woke heat maps" target and track progressives for crack down | Salon.com

11:22 TR News; Libreboot Libreboot 20220710 released! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167046

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11:22 TR Bot; Libreboot Libreboot 20220710 released! | Tux Machines

11:23 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO: "There are 2.3 million small businesses in Australia" https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/cyberproofing-small-and-medium-businesses-a-small-step-with-a-big-impact/ | Source: The Strategist

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11:23 TR Bot; Cyberproofing small and medium businessesa small step with a big impact | The Strategist

11:24 TR News; Surveillance and India https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/face-recognition-business-puts-softbank-between-china-us/92764579 | Source: India Times

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11:24 TR Bot; softbank: Face-recognition business puts SoftBank between China, US, CIO News, ET CIO

11:24 TR News; Surveillance in China: hidden cost https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/largest-data-leak-in-china-about-1-billion-peoples-data-leaked/92713380 | Source: India Times

=> ↺ https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/largest-data-leak-in-china-about-1-billion-peoples-data-leaked/92713380

11:24 TR Bot; china: Largest data leak in China, about 1 billion peoples data leaked, CIO News, ET CIO

11:24 TR News; "Governments eye TikTok nervously for different reasons." https://www.economist.com/interactive/briefing/2022/07/09/the-all-conquering-quaver | Source: The Economist

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11:24 TR Bot; TikTok grows, so does suspicion | The Economist

11:36 TR News; "The EU and U.S. are in the midst of negotiating a new data-transfer text" https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-faces-facebook-blackout-instagram-meta-data-protection/ | Source: Politico

=> ↺ https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-faces-facebook-blackout-instagram-meta-data-protection/

11:36 TR Bot; Europe faces Facebook blackout POLITICO

11:36 TR News; NSA schneier https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/07/ubiquitous-surveillance-by-ice.html | Source: Bruce Schneier

=> ↺ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/07/ubiquitous-surveillance-by-ice.html

11:36 TR Bot; Surveillance by ICE - Schneier on Security

11:37 TR News; [Old] "ICE has built its dragnet surveillance system by crossing legal and ethical lines" https://americandragnet.org/ | Source: Georgetown Law

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11:37 TR Bot; American Dragnet | Data-Driven Deportation in the 21st Century

11:48 TR News; "Retired radio personality Rick Emerson is one such reader." https://nypost.com/2022/07/09/go-ask-alice-diary-was-made-up-by-a-suburban-housewife/ | Source: NYPost

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11:48 TR Bot; Go Ask Alice diary was made up by a suburban housewife

11:54 TR News; "Social networks are not good for you." https://drewdevault.com/2022/07/09/Fediverse-toxicity.html | Source: Drew DeVault

=> ↺ https://drewdevault.com/2022/07/09/Fediverse-toxicity.html

11:54 TR Bot; The Fediverse can be pretty toxic

11:55 TR News; "Political party affiliation has become the primary driver of opinions about the media's trustworthiness" https://www.axios.com/2022/07/08/news-republicans-democrats-trust-partisanship | Source: Axios

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11:55 TR Bot; Trust in news collapses to historic low

11:55 TR News; "Musk has already signed the deal, so if he backs out" https://www.axios.com/2022/07/08/musk-twitter-fight-media-proxy-war | Source: Axios

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11:55 TR Bot; Musk, Twitter fight media proxy war over fake accounts

11:57 TR News; "Legal experts say this may not be sufficient grounds to break off the $44 billion deal without Musk" https://text.npr.org/1110539504 | Source: NPR

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11:57 TR Bot; Elon Musk says he won't buy Twitter

11:58 TR News; "Corporations are a major force in our lives, and a few digital superpowers act like consequential global actors, at times on par with governments." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/07/technology/big-tech-abortion.html | Source: New York Times

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11:58 TR Bot; Tech Is Not Representative Government - The New York Times

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12:01 TR News; "The Associated Press ran a fact check of a screenshot of a tweet" https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3551193-ap-runs-fact-check-on-fake-abe-tweet-about-clinton/ | Source: The Hill

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12:01 TR Bot; AP runs fact check on fake Abe tweet about Clinton | The Hill

12:02 TR News; "Reuters has previously factchecked the use of the same phrase following the deaths of prominent figures (here), (here)." https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-japan-abe/fact-check-image-of-a-tweet-by-shinzo-abe-about-hillary-clinton-is-fabricated-idUSL1N2YQ06C | Source: Reuters

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12:02 TR Bot; Check-Image of a tweet by Shinzo Abe about Hillary Clinton is fabricated | Reuters

12:04 TR News; "Thankfully, Sailor Moon's cancelation would not be the nail in the coffin for Western viewers, as the show was supported by the community DiC left behind." https://www.cbr.com/sailor-moon-fans-saved-franchise-in-america/ | Source: CBR

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12:04 TR Bot; Sailor Moon Fans Saved the Franchise in the US

12:05 TR News; "Thankfully, Sailor Moon's cancelation would not be the nail in the coffin for Western viewers, as the show was supported by the community DiC left behind." https://www.cbr.com/sailor-moon-fans-saved-franchise-in-america/ | Source: CBR

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12:05 TR News; "A Facebook friend who doesnt seem insane regularly shares instances of where Facebook deletes or hides her content." https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2022/07/09/does-social-media-censorship-cause-extremism-talking-to-the-black-musician-who-makes-kkk-members-rethink-racism/ | Source: Forbes

=> ↺ https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2022/07/09/does-social-media-censorship-cause-extremism-talking-to-the-black-musician-who-makes-kkk-members-rethink-racism/

12:05 TR Bot; Does Social Media Censorship Cause Extremism? Talking To The Black Musician Who Makes KKK Members Rethink Racism

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12:12 TR News; "Amazon Labor Union, the worker-led union behind the victory at an Amazon warehouse in New York City in April" https://abcnews.go.com/Business/group-us-amazon-union-backs-campaigns-warehouses/story?id=86449316 | Source: ABC

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12:12 TR Bot; Group behind first-ever U.S. Amazon union backs campaigns at 2 warehouses - ABC News

12:14 TR News; Assange https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/09/german-mps-demand-release-of-julian-assange/ | Source: Scheerpost

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12:14 TR Bot; MPs Demand Release of Julian Assange scheerpost.com

12:17 TR News; VeePN https://torrentfreak.com/filmmakers-sue-vpn-for-promoting-piracy-advertising-on-yts-220709/ | Source: Torrent Freak

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12:17 TR Bot; Sue VPN for Promoting Piracy & Advertising on YTS * TorrentFreak

12:25 TR News; "In the decades since the 1970s oil-price shocks sent inflation soaring and shackled economic growth" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/09/workers-should-not-be-sacrificed-misguided-effort-tame-inflation | Source: Common Dreams

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12:25 TR Bot; Opinion | Workers Should Not Be Sacrificed in a Misguided Effort to Tame Inflation | Joseph Stiglitz

12:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-09.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-10.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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12:30 TR News; paid astroturfers taking their toll on the community, too many people mistake the astroturfing for real people and real opinions; any sites with comments are targeted/brigaded especially those focusing on FOSS https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=50244&page=1&cid=1258539#commentwrap

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12:30 TR Bot; SoylentNews Comments | Amazon Cancels or Delays Plans for at Least 16 Warehouses This Year

12:33 TR News; The BIG Discussion [AC Friendly] - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/meta/article.pl?sid=22/07/09/0547216 Source: soylentnews

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12:33 TR Bot; The BIG Discussion [* AC Friendly *] - SoylentNews

12:34 TR News; Trump melts down on Truth Social after Georgia DA says she may subpoena him in criminal probe | Salon.com https://www.salon.com/2022/07/08/melts-down-on-truth-social-after-georgia-da-says-she-may-subpoena-him-in-criminal-probe_partner/ Source: salon

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12:34 TR Bot; melts down on Truth Social after Georgia DA says she may subpoena him in criminal probe | Salon.com

12:34 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2022/06/24/1106352611/housing-market-renters-bidding-wars-mortgages

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12:34 TR Bot; Housing market squeeze pushes renters into bidding wars : NPR

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12:34 DaemonFC; Go down to the slumlord and start a bidding war.

12:34 TR News; Suspected corona outbreak at Roskilde - The Post https://cphpost.dk/?p=136368 Source: cphpost

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12:34 TR Bot; Suspected corona outbreak at Roskilde - The Post

12:35 DaemonFC; "Dana Johnson was given an eviction notice after losing her job as a property leasing agent last year. The 54-year-old lives northeast of Atlanta and was determined to stay in her one-bedroom apartment so she wouldn't have to pay hundreds more in rent on the open market.

12:35 DaemonFC; She managed to get emergency rental aid to pay what is back due. But the landlord decided Johnson needs to move out anyway."

12:35 DaemonFC; Yeah, I figured that would happen.

12:35 DaemonFC; It's not like landlords are going to want to sign another lease with you if you got so far behind you had to sign up for pandemic money.

12:36 TR News; The BIG Discussion - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/meta/article.pl?sid=22/07/09/0547216#1259113 Source: soylentnews

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12:36 TR Bot; The BIG Discussion [* AC Friendly *] - SoylentNews

12:36 DaemonFC; About the only reason to sign up for it would be to prevent them from suing you for unpaid rent after you're gone.

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12:37 schestowitz[TR]; right

12:37 TR News; FB https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2022/07/07/facebook-och-instagram-hotar-stanga-ner-i-eu/

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12:37 TR Bot; Facebook och Instagram hotar stnga ner i EU

12:38 TR News; "This tutorial will explain in step by step how you can install GNU PSPP on Ubuntu 22.04 and any other versions." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/07/how-to-install-gnu-pspp-spss-alternative-on-ubuntu.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz

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12:38 TR Bot; How To Install GNU PSPP (An SPSS Alternative) on Ubuntu

12:39 DaemonFC; Most landlords don't sue, I've noticed. Even if you broke the lease.

12:39 DaemonFC; Once you're out, they might threaten it.

12:39 DaemonFC; But I've never had one do it, and I've broken like 5 leases and didn't ever have anyone sue.

12:39 TR News; "I'll go over what you can expect from each on Linux and Steam Deck using both Deck Verified and ProtonDB reports, giving you an easy way to see if it's worth picking up." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/the-humble-play-with-pride-bundle-has-a-few-nice-looking-gems-available/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

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12:39 TR Bot; Humble 'Play with Pride' bundle has a few nice looking gems available | GamingOnLinux

12:40 DaemonFC; If you trash the place, refuse to get out, or leave soon after signing a lease, the incentive to sue is much higher.

12:40 DaemonFC; Landlords know it's almost impossible to get money out of someone like me, so they don't waste their time in court.

12:41 TR News; "Seeed Studio recently released the compact XIAO ESP32C3 featuring the ESP32-C3 from Espressif Systems." https://linuxgizmos.com/risc-v-based-xiao-esp32c3-is-enabled-with-wi-fi-and-ble/ | Source: Linux Gizmos

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12:41 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/risc-v-based-xiao-esp32c3-is-enabled-with-wi-fi-and-ble/ )

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12:41 DaemonFC; State law exempts all of my income and they're not going to get my car because that's exempt. So what's in it for them? Nothing.

12:41 DaemonFC; They won't tell you that, of course.

12:41 TR News; "The ADS630 is enabled to accommodate the R680E or the Q670E chipsets from Intel." https://linuxgizmos.com/atx-board-supports-4k-quad-displays-four-rj45-ports-and-expandable-storage/ | Source: Linux Gizmos

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12:41 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/atx-board-supports-4k-quad-displays-four-rj45-ports-and-expandable-storage/ )

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12:45 DaemonFC; They know most people don't know their rights, so they make empty threats to get people to pay them because sometimes it works.

12:46 DaemonFC; That crazy lady we rented from in Chicago was threatening to sue me. I told her to quit making idle threats and if she kept calling me in the middle of the night I would be filing a police report about it.

12:46 DaemonFC; She did stop.

12:50 DaemonFC; https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/07/gmc-hummer-ev-pollutes-more-than-a-chevy-malibu-study-claims/

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12:50 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/07/gmc-hummer-ev-pollutes-more-than-a-chevy-malibu-study-claims/ )

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12:50 DaemonFC; A Hummer EV pollutes as much as my gasoline Buick.

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12:53 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-employee-5-years-fired-while-on-vacation-lawsuit-roosevelt-2022-7?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sf-bi-ti

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12:53 TR Bot; Tesla Employee of 5 Years Sacked Over Phone While on Vacation: Lawsuit

12:57 TR News; "If you read our articles, youll notice that we will usually feature images related to the subjects we talk about." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/09/your-console-your-cartridge-you-choose-nintendo-faces-a-challenge/ | Source: Hackaday

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12:57 TR Bot; Console, Your Cartridge, You Choose? Nintendo Faces A Challenge | Hackaday

12:58 TR News; "[Kevin OConnor] writes to us about his project, can2040 adding CAN support to the RP2040." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/09/can-peripheral-for-rp2040-courtesy-of-pio/ | Source: Hackaday

=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/09/can-peripheral-for-rp2040-courtesy-of-pio/

12:58 TR Bot; Peripheral For RP2040, Courtesy Of PIO | Hackaday

12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

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13:03 DaemonFC; Consoles were better when the entire game was on a cartridge and that's what it was.

13:04 DaemonFC; There were a lot of games on those that people still want to play today.

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13:04 TR News; Git developed usign Git. GCC compiled with GCC. Microsoft claims that it is fighting crime.

13:05 DaemonFC; What makes a game "good" or not isn't graphics and needing a new computer to run it. There's a lot of big budget flops, and the studios don't seem to understand that gameplay mechanics are more important than technical specifications.

13:09 TR News; Journalists should say it like it is, not how corporations tell them to say it. Seeking approval from those whom you're supposed to exposed makes you feeble, worthless

13:09 TR News; "Were the richest country in the world, home to the richest people on the planet." https://robertreich.org/post/689355506777767936 | Source: Robert Reich

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13:09 TR Bot; Robert Reich (4 Myths About Raising the Minimum Wage The federal...)

13:10 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: it music also

13:10 schestowitz[TR]; *in

13:12 TR News; Umbrel https://hackaday.com/2022/07/09/easier-self-hosting-with-umbrel/ | Source: Hackaday

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13:12 TR Bot; Self Hosting With Umbrel | Hackaday

13:13 DaemonFC; The more limiting the console the more of a challenge it is to produce something on it, and oddly that increases the incentive to make good games for the thing. Now that resources are billions of times what they were in the 80s or 90s you mostly get games that suck.

13:13 DaemonFC; Microsoft bought out Bethesda which had a few good franchises.

13:13 DaemonFC; They set out to ruin even games that had already been released.

13:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], First there was that content mill that they had where they discourage free modding in favor of DRM'd paid mods.

13:14 DaemonFC; Then they seem to sabotage total conversion mods.

13:14 DaemonFC; They got rid of a major expansion to Fallout: New Vegas by infiltrating it and putting in like "sex pervert" stuff so that they could defame the project.

13:15 DaemonFC; Right? Then they are dismantling a big mod for Fallout 4 by hiring the people who are working on it so that there's not enough manpower for it to continue.

13:16 TR News; $0.3 TRILLION (patent cartel) https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/09/letting-medicare-negotiate-drug-prices-would-save-us-nearly-290-billion-cbo | Source: Common Dreams

=> ↺ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/09/letting-medicare-negotiate-drug-prices-would-save-us-nearly-290-billion-cbo

13:16 TR Bot; Letting Medicare Negotiate Drug Prices Would Save US Nearly $290 Billion: CBO

13:16 DaemonFC; They do fear the community because the community is making more compelling "content" for the official games that they want mothballed or turned into their own cash cow.

13:17 DaemonFC; They bought the Fallout and Skyrim franchises at a time when they had modding kits, and so they're trying to sabotage that, and then trust me, if they release anything post-buyout, it won't have a modding kit. Or if it does, it will be tied to their DRM store or something.

13:17 TR News; "Circleannouncedit had raised $400 million with investments from BlackRock" https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/09/the-financial-bubble-era-comes-full-circle/ | Source: Scheerpost

=> ↺ https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/09/the-financial-bubble-era-comes-full-circle/

13:17 TR Bot; Financial Bubble Era Comes Full Circle scheerpost.com

13:17 DaemonFC; No reason to buy it. I consider Fallout to be "done" at Fallout 4.

13:18 DaemonFC; There may be more titles later, but it'll be from Microsoft and they'll ruin it.

13:18 schestowitz[TR]; they kill things

13:18 schestowitz[TR]; that's what they do

13:18 schestowitz[TR]; thnen they stgeal from taxpayers

13:18 DaemonFC; The point of the franchise isn't to have a decisive ending to the story. If they resolved anything, they wouldn't sell you the next game.

13:18 schestowitz[TR]; and bribe officials

13:19 TR News; Patents https://truthout.org/articles/cbo-letting-medicare-negotiate-drug-prices-would-save-us-nearly-290-billion/ | Source: TruthOut

=> ↺ https://truthout.org/articles/cbo-letting-medicare-negotiate-drug-prices-would-save-us-nearly-290-billion/

13:19 TR Bot; CBO: Letting Medicare Negotiate Drug Prices Would Save US Nearly $290 Billion

13:19 DaemonFC; Fallout's story should have an ending.

13:20 DaemonFC; The fans should write one even if it's a non-canonical ending, to give Microsoft the middle finger.

13:20 TR News; "If youre like us, you never get tired of retro game-inspired projects, and the dynamic duo, [monsely], seem to love them too." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/09/temperature-sensitive-pac-man-ghost-led-matrix/ | Source: Hackaday

=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/09/temperature-sensitive-pac-man-ghost-led-matrix/

13:20 TR Bot; Pac-Man/Ghost LED Matrix | Hackaday

13:20 schestowitz[TR]; windows is dying

13:20 schestowitz[TR]; profit-wise

13:20 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft looks for new identity

13:20 schestowitz[TR]; like fb "meta"

13:21 TR News; gCore (short for Gadget Core) https://hackaday.com/2022/07/09/gcore-make-portable-devices-with-less-frustration/ | Source: Hackaday

=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/09/gcore-make-portable-devices-with-less-frustration/

13:21 TR Bot; Make Portable Devices With Less Frustration | Hackaday

13:21 DaemonFC; Yeah, mjg59_ spent years claiming "Secure Boot" wasn't a trap to leave you stuck with Windows someday.

13:21 TR News; "Woke" https://truthout.org/articles/right-wing-woke-heat-maps-target-and-track-progressives-for-crackdown/ | Source: TruthOut

=> ↺ https://truthout.org/articles/right-wing-woke-heat-maps-target-and-track-progressives-for-crackdown/

13:21 TR Bot; Right Wing "Woke Heat Maps" Target and Track Progressives for Crackdown

13:22 DaemonFC; I'm surprised he even blogged and pretended to act surprised about the Lenovo laptops that don't even trust Microsoft's "third party" signing key anymore.

13:22 TR News; "On vacation, we went to see a laser show one of the old school variety that combines multiple different lasers of many different colors together into a single beam" https://hackaday.com/2022/07/09/when-is-one-pixel-cooler-than-millions/ | Source: Hackaday

=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/09/when-is-one-pixel-cooler-than-millions/

13:22 DaemonFC; For now, there's still apparently settings to turn it off completely or enable it to trust that third party key, or to import new keys as the user.

13:23 TR Bot; Is One Pixel Cooler Than Millions? | Hackaday

13:23 DaemonFC; But it's not the default setting, which scares the users away from changing it or leaves them wondering what to do.

13:23 schestowitz[TR]; this is ther goal

13:23 DaemonFC; And it makes it easy for Lenovo to patch out the options to toggle those settings later, which is something they have done before.

13:23 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/AARD

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13:23 TR Bot; AARD - Techrights

13:23 DaemonFC; And mjg59_ attacked me for calling them out when they did it.

13:24 schestowitz[TR]; that's all he has left

13:24 schestowitz[TR]; threats

13:24 schestowitz[TR]; and insults

13:24 DaemonFC; They have shipped laptops in a state where they knew nothing but Windows would work and there was no other possible explanation why they did it that way.

13:24 schestowitz[TR]; because the debate he lost

13:24 DaemonFC; And they've done it at least in 2016.

13:24 schestowitz[TR]; 9 years ago

13:25 schestowitz[TR]; maybe microsoft staffed hopped to lenovo

13:25 schestowitz[TR]; he will in the future

13:25 schestowitz[TR]; to weaponise fake 'security'

13:25 DaemonFC; You have to wonder what Microsoft thinks their strategy is.

13:25 schestowitz[TR]; rthey are conencted

13:25 DaemonFC; They get rid of the shitheads they gave golden parachutes to a few years ago.

13:25 schestowitz[TR]; secret OEM contracts

13:26 DaemonFC; Bring in Lennart, who is another shithead getting a golden parachute.

13:26 schestowitz[TR]; maybe they get "discounted" rates

13:26 schestowitz[TR]; for blocking "linux" and BSDs

13:26 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft is not a copmpany

13:26 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft is a criminal orgnisation

13:26 schestowitz[TR]; it is helped by the likes of LP

13:26 schestowitz[TR]; and de Icaz

13:26 schestowitz[TR]; they profit from helping the crime

13:27 schestowitz[TR]; brb

13:27 DaemonFC; They don't create anything.

13:27 schestowitz[TR]; sunny out

13:27 DaemonFC; They buy, they ruin, they corrupt.

13:27 DaemonFC; They patent, they sue.

13:27 DaemonFC; The closest they come to "creating" anything is always a stolen product that gets them sued by someone.

13:27 DaemonFC; Then they settle it out of court.

13:28 DaemonFC; None of this is new. They were compared to the Borg even in the 90s.

13:29 DaemonFC; In Star Trek, the Borg assimilate people and technology. They don't invent things. They apparently can't even reproduce on their own. They stop assimilating and they die.

13:29 DaemonFC; That makes them a parasite.

13:29 DaemonFC; Ending entire civilizations to get new drones who will eventually all die.

13:30 DaemonFC; Then they just assimilate and ruin another one.

13:30 DaemonFC; Does the disease worry about killing the host? Of course not.

13:30 DaemonFC; It sucks up whatever resources it can get.

13:31 DaemonFC; There are lots of costs of allowing Microsoft to operate this way.

13:32 DaemonFC; By destroying innovative companies and running them out of business, usually buying them out or badly cloning their products, the cost to society is much more than some stolen taxpayer money.

13:32 DaemonFC; It's the fact that Microsoft stopped innovative smaller companies from continuing to produce new things.

13:34 DaemonFC; It's like the cost to society of murdering someone is more than just "one person does not exist anymore". They orphan some kids, they don't go to work and make things that improves lives. All of their hopes and dreams are gone.

13:34 DaemonFC; Microsoft murders innovative companies.

13:35 DaemonFC; The only way to stop that is for regulators to wake up and stop them from buying up anything else.

13:35 DaemonFC; I don't think they'll hire mjg59_.

13:35 DaemonFC; He's not important.

13:36 DaemonFC; They already passed all of the stuff they wanted dumped onto us to him to make it look plausible that it wasn't from them.

13:36 DaemonFC; You don't buy the cow when you can get cheap milk.

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13:42 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/07/10/7357339/

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13:42 TR Bot; Ammunition depots blow up at night in occupied Alchevsk and Shakhtarsk ? social media | Ukrainska Pravda

13:42 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/10/donetsk-region-six-people-killed-after-missile-strike-on-residential-building-in-chasiv-yar-news https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/07/10/7357337/ "Donetsk region: six people killed after missile strike on residential building in Chasiv Yar"

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=> ↺ https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/07/10/7357337/

13:42 TR Bot; .

13:42 TR Bot; Russian missile attack on high-rise building in Donetsk region: death toll rises to 15 | Ukrainska Pravda

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14:02 TR News; "TODAY, after 18 years (this blog started in 2004), I am publishing the 2,222nd blog post. Over at Techrights weve just exceeded 34,000. TuxMachines approaches 170,000." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/2222-posts/

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14:02 TR Bot; Blog Archive 2,222 Blog Posts

14:02 TR News; "OUR instincts should not depend on the medias news cycle. Yes, Borisnaro is out, but the damage he has done persists. On Thursday this report was released." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/covid-19-summer-exceeding-normal-mortality/

=> ↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/covid-19-summer-exceeding-normal-mortality/

14:02 TR Bot; Blog Archive England Swings Back to Excess Deaths (Exceedingly High Mortality Rates in Summertime) With COVID-19 Surge

14:03 schestowitz[TR]; Mono..

14:03 schestowitz[TR]; OOXML..

14:03 schestowitz[TR]; 'Secure' boot

14:03 schestowitz[TR]; MSystemD

14:07 TR News; 9 Fun Free and Open Source Sports Games https://www.linuxlinks.com/free-open-source-sports-games/

=> ↺ https://www.linuxlinks.com/free-open-source-sports-games/

14:07 TR Bot; Fun Free and Open Source Sports Games - LinuxLinks

14:08 *CrystalMath (~coderain@h24mve86z5yw8.irc) has joined #techrights

14:08 TR News; "I still wish to more extensively focus on freedom-fighting activism in the digital realm." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/phase-two-of-life/

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14:08 TR Bot; Blog Archive Entering Phase Two of Life

14:09 TR News; "schestowitz.com is generally quite outdated, most of the pages here are from my early 20s, but at least its still working and Im very pleased with my webhost." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/this-domain-is-over-18/

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14:09 TR Bot; Blog Archive This Domain is Over 18, But the Site is 20

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14:11 TR News; AMD Ryzen Pro chips with Microsoft Pluton wont boot Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166982#comment-34292

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14:11 TR Bot; Lenovo shipping new laptops that only boot Windows by default | Tux Machines

14:13 TR News; This is not what a backdoors is; Microsoft puts backdoors in Windows, this is just malware you ought not install https://threatpost.com/sneaky-malware-backdoors-linux/180158/

=> ↺ https://threatpost.com/sneaky-malware-backdoors-linux/180158/

14:13 TR Bot; New Orbit Malware Backdoors Linux Devices | Threatpost

14:19 TR News; AMD RDNA3 Navi 31/32/33 GPUs to feature DCN 3.2 display engine, Phoenix Point APU gets DCN 3.1 https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rdna3-navi-31-32-33-gpus-to-feature-dcn-3-2-display-engine-phoenix-point-apu-gets-dcn-3-1

=> ↺ https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rdna3-navi-31-32-33-gpus-to-feature-dcn-3-2-display-engine-phoenix-point-apu-gets-dcn-3-1

14:19 TR Bot; RDNA3 Navi 31/32/33 GPUs to feature DCN 3.2 display engine, Phoenix Point APU gets DCN 3.1 - VideoCardz.com

14:20 TR News; COVID-19 summertime: still exceeding normal mortality rates and NHS silencing itself for Borisnaro regime https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/nhs-numbers-4pm-next-week-but-never-mind/

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14:20 TR Bot; Blog Archive NHS Breaking Its Promise in Order to Help COVID-19 Spread While Were Blindfolded

14:20 TR News; Concerning: some employers exploit the work-for-home mindset to get even their ILL workers to STILL work

14:20 TR News; "A few weeks ago our wedding (and beyond) album exceeded 5,000,000 views." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/our-wedding-and-beyond-album/

=> ↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/our-wedding-and-beyond-album/

14:20 TR Bot; Blog Archive Self-Hosting Your Photos and Reaching Over 5 Million Views (You Dont Need Facebook/Instagram, Flickr, and Other Social Control Media)

14:31 TR News; SpellBinding: CEZMTVI Wordo: STUDS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-07-10.gmi

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14:32 TR News; "I have two text UI games which I love. I had played them once, then I was playing them many times through time, and I can always play them again. It doesn't matter if I haven't played them for some time, because I'm feeling always like I am at home" gemini://szczezuja.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-07-10-Ancient-Domains-Of-Mystery.gmi

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14:32 TR News; "In my previous post I espoused some thoughts on Docker and CI. In short: I hate Docker and think it's a huge resource waste and many projects abuse CI. So just to give an example of a different way, here's the Makefile that builds and deploys my own personal capsule." gemini://gemini.hitchhiker-linux.org/gemlog/capsule_deployment_pipeline.gmi

=> ↺ gemini://gemini.hitchhiker-linux.org/gemlog/capsule_deployment_pipeline.gmi

14:33 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167047

=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167047

14:33 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

14:34 TR News; Games: Free/Libre Sports Games, Humble Bundle, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167048

=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167048

14:34 TR Bot; Games: Free/Libre Sports Games, Humble Bundle, and More | Tux Machines

14:35 TR News; "Part of my old computing challenge is to limit my bandwidth speed. I chose 1mb/s download and 500kb/s upload, as I can do everything I usually do, although with a bit more waiting and patience." gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-07-10.gmi

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14:35 TR News; "We're living in times in which we're constantly bombarded not just with information, but with literally everything. The psychology community calls them supra-stimuli." gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-07-10-5.gmi

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14:36 TR News; "The same technique of advertising is virtually every industry at the moment. We can see this especially with technology and the notion that "progress is always good!" Every year, new products, more cores, bigger screen, +100 to any number in the specification sheet etc. and you buy it again and again, being promised illusory "improvements"." gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-07-10-4.gmi

=> ↺ gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-07-10-4.gmi

14:37 TR News; "As I primarily use IRC now, I've deep dived into the world of IRC clients. So far, I've tried irssi, weechat, catgirl, ii. My favorites are weechat and catgirl, I'll focus on the former here." gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-07-10-3.gmi

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14:38 TR News; "I like the nuances of purple and all, the colors pop and help you to to easily distinguish the syntax when editing files. They aren't as faint as Gruvbox, so it isn't that relaxing at night, but together with Redshift I have no issue." gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-07-10-2.gmi

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14:39 TR News; "Charitably, they might mean it as a workers right issue, that workers are getting underpaid because hacking on free software is so romantic, but I dont care how much bathwater you wanna throw out. Theres just some things that are part of the treasure chest of life, reasons why I even open my eyes in the morning." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/romancing-sisyphus-stone

=> ↺ gemini://idiomdrottning.org/romancing-sisyphus-stone

14:40 TR News; If you don't hack for freedom you heck for oppression. The latter has always paid more; just like slaveowning.

14:40 MinceR; oh heck

14:41 schestowitz[TR]; oops

14:41 schestowitz[TR]; what da HACK?

14:41 MinceR; (cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/C5u1BMy

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14:41 TR Bot; Catan In The Herb Garden! - rimgo

14:43 TR News; Slavery is capitalism in its most "successful" and "effective" form (or "optimal"). We're getting there; see wage disparities.

14:43 TR News; Capitalism and economics are more like regions than sciences. They award their clergy with fake awards and higher salaries.

14:44 MinceR; we've been there before

14:44 MinceR; i didn't realize feudalism was capitalism though :>

14:45 schestowitz[TR]; feudalism is capitalism to the max

14:46 matey; capitalism was a step forward from feudalism

14:46 matey; however, i swear that someone in here did say they couldnt tell the difference, just a few weeks ago if that

14:47 schestowitz[TR]; matey: look at china

14:47 schestowitz[TR]; or cambodia

14:47 matey; one of the things capitalism does, like a crazy boyfriend, is say "hey baby, you need me! you dont want to go back to feudalism, do you?"

14:47 schestowitz[TR]; there, it's less like capitalism

14:47 schestowitz[TR]; and they make stuff for US!

14:47 schestowitz[TR]; sweatshops aren't capitalism or very failing form of it

14:48 matey; china and cambodia were inspired by stalinism

14:48 matey; sweatshops aren't capitalism <- whoo boy

14:48 schestowitz[TR]; exactly

14:48 schestowitz[TR]; but they work in a capitalism system sort of

14:48 matey; or very failing form of it <- an example of capitalisms limitations

14:48 schestowitz[TR]; to integrate with "trade"

14:48 matey; if you think capitalism is only the good side of it, then sweatshops dont fit

14:48 schestowitz[TR]; sweatshops are more like feudalism was my point

14:49 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. very extreme capitallism

14:49 matey; capitalism fails itself

14:49 schestowitz[TR]; like a shirt sold for 20 pounds that cost 20 pence to make

14:50 matey; when capitalism fails it can create the very conditions that it exists to "liberate" us from

14:50 MinceR; the sequel to Doctor Who, Who Boy

14:50 matey; where does slavery fit in

14:50 matey; horton hears doctor who

14:50 matey; /me would love a doctor who / doctor suess crossover

14:51 matey; obviously it would have matt smith

14:51 TR News; Windows (In)Security and Typical "Linux" FUD Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167049

=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167049

14:51 matey; he looks like a suave british version of thing 1 and thing 2

14:51 TR Bot; Windows (In)Security and Typical "Linux" FUD | Tux Machines

14:52 TR News; Twitter keeps spamming me with "reminders" to log in. This is like Facebook. Twitter is dying.

14:52 matey; when a plane fails-- its designed to keep you off the ground

14:53 matey; when a plane fails it can launch you torwards the ground very rapidly

14:53 matey; of course gravity tends to do most of the work

14:53 matey; thats where capitalism is right now

14:53 matey; people blame religion for war, and some of thats true

14:54 matey; most of the wars going on, the biggest ones were not over religion though

14:54 matey; american civil war wasnt over religion

14:54 matey; ww1 and 2 werent over religion

14:54 MinceR; there are other ways a plane can fail

14:55 MinceR; for example, it can fail to land when it's supposed to

14:55 matey; what, like a holding pattern

14:55 matey; or a crash

14:55 matey; a crash is a lot like a landing, just a really shit one

14:56 matey; some people say "crash landing"

14:56 matey; i guess at some point that became a contradiction because no one says it anymore?

14:56 schestowitz[TR]; https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1545619236403515392waterboarding is a meal

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14:56 TR Bot; Too much top down isolates the top and they go crazy with self importance: This Month Mozilla Firefox Reached Its L https://t.co/ip2lJRuRQA

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14:56 matey; landings are GOOD landings

14:56 TR Bot; Too much top down isolates the top and they go crazy with self importance: This Month Mozilla Firefox Reached Its L https://t.co/ip2lJRuRQA

=> ↺ https://t.co/ip2lJRuRQA

14:56 schestowitz[TR]; waterboarding is a meal

14:57 MinceR; it will land eventually, but not necessarily where you want it to

14:57 matey; maybe she wants to take rms to dinner

14:57 schestowitz[TR]; whose dinner?

14:58 schestowitz[TR]; fed to the lions?

14:58 matey; for a waterboarding meal

14:58 schestowitz[TR]; christine signed th e anti-RMS letter/petition

14:58 matey; i cant believe you said it before i did

14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

14:59 matey; /me isnt going to join the people who pretend those people havent lost all credibility/trust

14:59 matey; im willing to make scant exceptions, because i believe honest mistakes are a thing

14:59 matey; i dont believe most of those signatures are honest mistakes

14:59 matey; but some may be

14:59 matey; hers was not.

14:59 matey; no fucking way.

3 PM, July 10

15:00 matey; neither was bilefields

15:00 schestowitz[TR]; bile :-)

15:00 schestowitz[TR]; bile is a meal

15:00 matey; bile is an afterdinner mint

15:00 schestowitz[TR]; secretion from the liver

15:00 schestowitz[TR]; yellow or greenish

15:01 schestowitz[TR]; mealy vanilli

15:02 matey; honest mistakes btw

15:02 matey; people usually make some effort to fix them

15:03 matey; havent seen much of that from anywhere

15:04 matey; ive seen more capitulation from the "pro" rms side than ive seen remorse from the corporate cult

15:04 matey; even the side of the corporate cult that knows the corporations are bullshit "but i can change him, ma!"

15:05 matey; i mean the corporations have to be changed

15:05 matey; but i mean people like esr

15:05 matey; microsofts "worst nightmare"

15:05 matey; microsoft: our worst nightmare is that someone will hand us the perfect weapon to destroy free software with

15:05 matey; esr: here you go

15:05 matey; microsoft: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

15:06 MinceR; lol

15:07 *psydruid welcomes the corporate cult with open arms

15:07 matey; /me hopes psydruid has something up his sleeve, or giant megacorp crushing arms (or both)

15:08 *psydruid subsequently flees from the scene never to be found again

15:08 matey; if esr is armed and deranged

15:08 matey; i mean armed and dangerous

15:08 matey; thats the tagline of his blog, right? armed and deranged?

15:08 matey; i mean the other thing

15:09 psydruid; I haven't read anything on his blog in years now

15:09 matey; it has nazi science on it

15:10 TR News; Links 10/07/2022: Libreboot 20220710 and Free/Libre Sports Games | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/10/libreboot-20220710/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/10/libreboot-20220710/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/07/10/libreboot-20220710/
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/10/libreboot-20220710/

15:10 TR Bot; Links 10/07/2022: Libreboot 20220710 and Free/Libre Sports Games | Techrights

15:10 matey; statistics that prove, if nothing else

15:10 psydruid; when dr armed and deranged met dr sixel

15:10 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167050

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15:10 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

15:11 matey; that being in an environment that supports an education increases average iq across groups

15:11 schestowitz[TR]; matey: dangerous and dangerous

15:11 schestowitz[TR]; or deranged and dangerous

15:12 matey; he is dangerous, he could fall on someone

15:12 schestowitz[TR]; the stats took his precious toys

15:12 schestowitz[TR]; after he gloated about "kyle" shooting people fatally

15:12 schestowitz[TR]; something about patriotism

15:13 schestowitz[TR]; http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8752

=> ↺ http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8752

15:13 TR Bot; Kyle Rittenhouse and the militia obligation Armed and Dangerous

15:13 schestowitz[TR]; "militia obligation"

15:13 matey; from the looks of him, esr had a few too many waterboardings

15:14 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2019/07/06/honeytraps/

=> http://techrights.org/2019/07/06/honeytraps/

15:14 TR Bot; Honeytraps | Techrights

15:14 schestowitz[TR]; honeyboarding

15:17 TR News; Problems to Tackle for the Rest of My Life https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/problems-to-tackle/

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15:17 TR Bot; Blog Archive Problems to Tackle for the Rest of My Life

15:18 matey; all his potato skins are locked and loaded

15:18 TR News; Bloat is "Improvements"? Debloating your bloat? https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/07/firefox-snap-significant-startup-improvements

=> ↺ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/07/firefox-snap-significant-startup-improvements

15:18 TR Bot; 'Significant Improvements'Made to Ubuntu Firefox Snap - OMG! Ubuntu!

15:19 TR News; Getting your First PCB with Raspberry PI and Fritzing https://peppe8o.com/getting-your-first-pcb-with-raspberry-pi-and-fritzing/ Source: peppe8o

=> ↺ https://peppe8o.com/getting-your-first-pcb-with-raspberry-pi-and-fritzing/

15:20 TR Bot; Getting your First PCB with Raspberry PI and Fritzing

15:20 matey; when dr armed and deranged met dr sixel <- both have made unpalatable resolutions

15:22 TR News; kernel/git/crng/random.git - Development tree for the kernel CSPRNG https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/crng/random.git/commit/?id=860d480767eeda963929b188ab865eebe5926068 Source: git

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15:22 TR Bot; kernel/git/crng/random.git - Development tree for the kernel CSPRNG

15:23 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/weekend-random-randomness-7-2-22-15.jpg

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15:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-09.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-10.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-09.gmi
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=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

15:38 psydruid; someone is arguing with me because I consider Dino the XMPP client typical GNOME bloatware and I said "Dino should go extinct"

15:39 bnchs; gajim looks like discord

15:40 psydruid; response: "Dino has a/v support for both linux and the windows fork. Which is something that gajim hasn't fully implemented yet. As well as gajim's a/v implementation is still unencrypted. Also groupcalls work on dino. And why do you think dino bloated eventhough it is almost as simplistic as it can get."

15:40 bnchs; profanity or psi is probably the only good XMPP client

15:40 bnchs; the problem is that those don't support enough features

15:40 psydruid; response: "They both have their pro's and con's but to say that dino is terrible and that it should go extinct is not really based on a well build argument."

15:41 psydruid; these people don't realize bloatware when it hits them in the face

15:41 MinceR; maybe they like bloatware

15:41 MinceR; i liked bitlbee, but even that couldn't fix xmpp's fake distributedness and unreliability

15:55 matey; maybe they like bloatware <- bloatware cant be (and never is) sustained

15:55 matey; bloatware is abandonware, shortly before being abandoned

15:56 matey; this is why gnu will fail

15:56 matey; bloat is relative of course-- people know that but they cant always articulate it

15:57 matey; once anything reaches a threshold where nearly anyone would prefer to write something else than fork it (even if they need it for something)

15:57 MinceR; humanity is also unsustainable

15:57 matey; anything past that is bloat, which isnt to say it cant exist prior to that point

15:58 matey; of course it doesnt have to be bloat, you have to rule out shit design too

15:58 matey; people will abandon a shit design whether its bloated or not

15:58 matey; corporations attack projects with bloat to sink them

15:59 matey; libreoffice is being destroyed as we speak

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15:59 matey; systemd destroyed countless distros

15:59 matey; bloat is a disease

15:59 matey; also a weaponised disease against free software

4 PM, July 10

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16:00 matey; i was content to help people install-- and to myself use gnome 2

16:00 matey; thats pretty bloated

16:00 matey; but it worked well enough on old stuff

16:01 matey; if you want faster, install lxde

16:01 matey; if you want instantaneous, use icewm

16:01 matey; but everything else got ridiculous-- lxde went on a qt adventure that left its future in question

16:02 matey; i dont like lxqt at all-- i tried razor-qt first then lxqt, waiting patiently (years) for it to not suck

16:02 matey; i dont even like xfce anymore, just because theyve done too many things that remind me why i dont like big des

16:03 matey; before you can use it you have to find all the stupid things it does and turn them off

16:03 matey; or uninstall components, delete binaries, whatever

16:04 matey; someone i know who codes in c kept having some crap pop up with xfce

16:04 matey; getting in their way

16:04 matey; we could have found it and fixed it

16:04 matey; we dont need shit like that, the gui doesnt need to be so fucking helpful

16:04 matey; the more it tries, the less helpful it is

16:05 matey; xfce is gnomes bitch anyway

16:05 matey; wasnt always, is now

16:06 matey; but before all this stuff went to hell, i had gotten tired of bothering with anything more than icewm

16:06 matey; sane defaults. works with everything. no resource hogging. only does stuff when you want it to.

16:06 matey; oh, github

16:06 matey; okay, dwm then.

16:07 matey; if someone forks icewm theyll probably add a bunch of annoying shit to it.

16:07 matey; no one wants to just maintain software

16:07 MinceR; does icewm need to be changed anymore?

16:07 matey; NO

16:07 matey; and if they do, they should call it something else

16:08 MinceR; then just keep a mirror/copy of it off shithub

16:08 matey; that works for individuals

16:08 matey; but its like what happened to kabbalah

16:09 MinceR; kabbalah is not useful, afaict

16:09 matey; regardless

16:09 matey; it used to be taught more casually

16:09 matey; in the 1600s a lot of people got swept up in it as a craze

16:09 matey; there were loads of false messiah movements

16:10 matey; so the rabbis banned teaching it to anyone except men who were over 40

16:10 matey; and not long after it just disappeared

16:10 matey; kabbalah helps explain a number of jewish rituals

16:11 matey; without it, a lot of people just do things by rote, and dont know or care why

16:11 matey; doing things without knowing why other than "god said" is even less healthy than having a rich tapestry of symbolism behind "god said"

16:12 matey; it only becomes more rigid and pointless

16:12 matey; but the point of course, is that if icewm only exists on github and local mirrors

16:12 matey; that helps very few people-- it doesnt provide an alternative to the github version for most people

16:12 MinceR; was there ever a true messiah?

16:13 matey; not according to judaism

16:15 matey; but its not unfair to call a short-lived charlatan-led "movement" with little more to it than following the grateful dead on tour a "false messiah movement"

16:15 bnchs; wtf was the point of systemd

16:15 matey; giving ibm control of userspace

16:15 matey; microsoft controls the kernel

16:16 bnchs; here's the joke

16:16 matey; systemd is a cuckold operating system

16:16 bnchs; openrc existed before systemd

16:16 matey; mmhmm

16:16 bnchs; look at which init system is the most used now

16:16 matey; which is it

16:16 bnchs; i don't know

16:17 matey; i assume its systemd, at least in the gnu/linux world

16:17 matey; if you include bsd i dont know either

16:17 matey; probably systemd

16:17 matey; because there are more gnu/linux installs (unless there arent)

16:17 MinceR; it's probably the custom thing android comes with

16:17 matey; ^ yeah

16:17 matey; i bet we dont count that, just because

16:17 MinceR; which looks more like a scripting language than a service manager

16:17 matey; about zero people modify the setup

16:18 matey; which looks more like a scripting language <- lennart to the rescue!

16:18 matey; maybe he will go work for google now :)

16:18 MinceR; lol

16:18 MinceR; i guess eventually it would be the next logical step in ruining android

16:19 matey; i consider android 99% useless

16:19 psydruid; androidd

16:19 matey; im probably being generous

16:19 psydruid; android cuckold

16:19 matey; its worth noting that the more they integrate shit into systemd

16:19 matey; the more it looks like android

16:19 MinceR; it's still not as bad as systemd/Linux

16:20 matey; no i think android is worse, believe it or not

16:20 MinceR; _()_/

16:20 MinceR; android is still closer to unix than systemd ever was

16:20 matey; its just that systemd is completely unacceptable

16:20 matey; and android is even worse than that

16:20 matey; android is still closer to unix than systemd ever was <- not in any way that means anything to me as a user though

16:21 matey; its all locked down

16:21 matey; flatpak is an android simulator

16:21 matey; not for apps, i mean it simulates the design

16:21 matey; locked down, blob-based

16:22 matey; you delete something windows wants to keep, it restores it-- fuck you

16:22 matey; flatpak and android take similar attitudes towards the owner of the device

16:22 matey; but slightly different approaches

16:23 MinceR; AOSP is less locked down and it's still android

16:23 matey; yeah

16:23 matey; the design still sucks though

16:24 MinceR; and the design of systemd sucks harder

16:24 matey; thats probably true

16:24 matey; but my point was

16:24 matey; the more systemd takes over, the more android-like it becomes

16:25 matey; and that says a lot about both imo

16:25 matey; im certain that by the time systemd becomes ibm android

16:25 matey; it will be even shittier than google android

16:26 matey; i dont think the people who designed android were idiots

16:26 matey; i seem to recall that like youtube, google didnt develop android originally-- purchased?

16:26 matey; the people who designed systemd are idiots.

16:26 MinceR; https://files.catbox.moe/uaoas0.png

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16:26 TR Bot; connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/uaoas0.png )

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16:26 MinceR; it's tending more toward windows and macos than toward android

16:27 MinceR; and yes, google bought the android corporation

16:27 MinceR; and google used to make things that worked

16:27 matey; thats true

16:27 MinceR; even their search engine used to work

16:27 matey; heh

16:27 matey; it's tending more toward windows and macos than toward android <- imo its taking the worst of everything

16:28 MinceR; it's still less shit than bng, but that's a far lower bar than "works"

16:28 matey; and plopping it together

16:28 matey; it's still less shit than bn <- i dont even know how to quantify them anymore

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16:28 matey; when i use a search engine i expect shit

16:28 matey; i get shit

16:28 MinceR; :>

16:28 matey; you have to trick it into telling you something useful

16:29 matey; its an art

16:29 matey; when youre dealing with a search engine, its sort of like when youre a kid and youre trying to weasel something out of your parents

16:30 matey; if you do it just right and try for long enough it might work

16:32 matey; in fairness to search engines though

16:32 matey; the web used to be less of a giant pile of shit

16:32 matey; so you know, it IS more work than ever before to find those lovely kernels of corn

16:33 matey; im not saying that corruption and bullshit algorithms dont play a major role

16:33 matey; these factors work together to create a truly bullshit web

16:34 matey; to the point where precursors to the web may be slated to become more popular again

16:35 matey; i mean thats what gemini is, really (but not literally)

16:35 matey; irc predates the web too

16:35 matey; will the bbs come back too :)

16:36 matey; i used bbs VERY sparingly

16:36 matey; i was really only interested in utilities and a few games

16:36 matey; (all the ones i got were legal, funnily enough)

16:36 MinceR; no diskmags for you? :>

16:36 matey; i got diskmags from school

16:37 matey; im not saying that every copy of everything in my computer was legal back when it was under non-free licenses

16:37 matey; what i am saying is i never really got into warez

16:38 matey; id copy some things, but i didnt tend to download illegally

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16:39 matey; i think warez attracts two groups of people

16:39 matey; 1. people who do it because fuck the system / information wants to be free / im cool because i removed copy protection scheme

16:40 matey; 2. people who have an insatiable appetite for new stuff to play

16:40 MinceR; 3. people who can't afford to pay for software licenses

16:40 matey; sure, thats fair

16:40 matey; but for the few things i needed that i couldnt afford

16:41 MinceR; 4. people who can afford to pay but have no access to the payment method (though this is probably less of a thing now)

16:41 matey; i just copied that (without a network) from something i borroed

16:41 matey; so like i had one copy of windows...

16:42 matey; and one key

16:42 matey; i would actually obtain new (legit) keys about as often as i would use my install media

16:42 matey; i wasnt trying to, it just happened

16:43 matey; i wasnt really interested in microsoft office

16:44 matey; until mozilla became a thing, i would install netscape from a cd that i got from my isp

16:44 matey; i had dialup, so i didnt want to download it

16:46 matey; by the time i knew what free/open was, i mostly wanted stuff that was free to copy, at the very lease

16:46 matey; least

16:46 matey; because i liked the idea of software you could legally share

16:47 matey; so even though i was using windows still, i was replacing every tiny bit of it i could with something non-microsoft

16:48 matey; the shell, the browser, the file manager, i called the internet dialer from the command line tool that sys-internals made

16:48 matey; as much of it as possible was non-microsoft

16:48 matey; thanks to fucking github im doing it again in 2020-something

16:49 matey; and yes, sys-internals got bought by microsoft

16:50 matey; just like the linux kernel

16:50 matey; ill be thrilled when these companies finally die, but it wont be half as soon as roy says

16:51 matey; or has said

16:51 matey; if i wanted microsoft to control my computing, id just use windows

16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

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17:32 TR News; Kdenlive 22.04.3 Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167051

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17:32 TR Bot; Kdenlive 22.04.3 Released | Tux Machines

17:34 TR News; "Today I'm releasing NewsWaffle, a Gemini gateway to (almost) any news websites, allowing you to get lists of current news articles, and read those news articles, all from inside Gemini." gemini://gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-07-10-newswaffle.gmi

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17:35 TR News; Keep infrastructure free gemini://idiomdrottning.org/keep-infrastructure-free

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17:36 TR News; "We should be moving away from a world run by Facebook, Apple, Google etc, not towards a world where they financially control the means of production. Please dont misinterpret this as me trying to snatch the livelihood away from any one contributor to FOSS, be it a five star repo or a one line fix." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/keep-infrastructure-free

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17:42 TR News; "I installed shinobar's Grub2config in EasyOS, but it reported that it needs 'efibootmgr'. So, have compiled it in OpenEmbedded, and its dependency package 'efivar'." https://bkhome.org/news/202207/efibootmgr-and-efivar-compiled-in-oe.html

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17:42 TR Bot; efibootmgr and efivar compiled in OE

17:49 TR News; New FreeBSD ommitter: Pau Amma (doc) https://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash/#2022-06-03:1

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17:49 TR Bot; FreeBSD News Flash | The FreeBSD Project

17:50 TR News; GNUnet 0.17.2 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167052

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17:50 TR Bot; GNUnet 0.17.2 | Tux Machines

17:50 TR News; CloudNativePG 1.16.0 and 1.15.2 Released! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167053

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17:50 TR Bot; CloudNativePG 1.16.0 and 1.15.2 Released! | Tux Machines

17:51 TR News; Using Zorin OS for the first time Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167054

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17:51 TR Bot; Using Zorin OS for the first time | Tux Machines

17:51 TR News; On-device browser translations with Firefox Translations Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167055

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17:51 TR Bot; On-device browser translations with Firefox Translations | Tux Machines

17:51 TR News; Audacious Music Player 4.2 is Out Finally! Ubuntu PPA Updated Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167056

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17:51 TR Bot; Audacious Music Player 4.2 is Out Finally! Ubuntu PPA Updated | Tux Machines

17:51 TR News; Dial up your PCB design skills with an LED volume control shield | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/10/dial-up-your-pcb-design-skills-with-an-led-volume-control-shield/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking

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17:52 TR Bot; Dial up your PCB design skills with an LED volume control shield | Arduino Blog

17:52 TR News; "Cockpit is a web-based graphical interface for Linux servers. It uses the system APIs and commands to create an informative user-friendly dashboard for users." https://medevel.com/cockpit-servers/

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17:52 TR Bot; Cockpit is an Open-source Web-based Interface for Servers

17:54 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167057

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17:54 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

17:56 TR News; Water: a Right or a Commodity? - neritam https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/07/04/water-a-right-or-a-commodity/ Source: neritam

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17:56 TR Bot; Water: a Right or a Commodity? neritam

17:56 TR News; Commoditization of Large Language Models https://matt-rickard.com/commoditization-of-large-language-models/

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17:56 TR Bot; Commoditization of Large Language Models

17:57 TR News; Just common sense https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61896180

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17:57 TR Bot; UK decides AI still cannot patent inventions - BBC News

6 PM, July 10

18:03 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/18080279

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18:03 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/9xcehc9gxad11.jpg created on 2018-08-02 23:48:10.638705

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18:12 matey; local mirrors are definitely a good first step away from github

18:13 matey; ideally they would also be mirrored somewhere public so more people benefit

18:13 MinceR; if i had infinite storage and bandwidth, i'd set up an automatic shithub mirroring service

18:13 matey; even if you mirrored the few things you actually gave a shit about

18:14 matey; and more people did that, it would be huge

18:14 matey; imo the best way (certainly not the only way) to do a mirror is via tor hidden service

18:15 matey; its easy to setup, ssl is built in, no lf/le certs, no dns monopolies

18:15 matey; drawbacks of tor are obvious

18:16 matey; and its certainly not the only way. but it works around a BUNCH of issues with hosting

18:16 matey; as for the fugly urls... i mean theyre a feature

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18:17 matey; tor is one of the few traitorous projects i get behind (under protest of course)

18:18 matey; i also recommend people keep using gnupg :/

18:18 matey; i like tor a lot more

18:18 matey; i see tor as the most legit alternative to mozilla, along several axes

18:19 matey; but a fork of tor would be better, and the browser is optional

18:19 matey; tor at least has their own repo, so tor browser isnt technically github based

18:19 matey; but obviously the language its written in (like most) would be github based

18:19 MinceR; what about i2p and gnunet

18:20 matey; gnunet i have no faith in because its gnu and because theyre trying to square a circle in typical this-will-never-be-ready-ever fashion

18:20 matey; but if i have to eat those words i would be more than happy to do so

18:20 matey; in 2045

18:21 matey; i think its fun to see it race against reactos

18:21 matey; but really, this is hopefully one im wrong about

18:21 matey; if i thought i was wrong id say so, but either way, that would be lovely

18:21 MinceR; :>

18:21 matey; i2p im not going to switch to because its github based

18:22 matey; im wrong, arent i, wait... checks

18:22 TR News; It's Still Not About The Technology https://blog.dshr.org/2022/07/its-still-not-about-technology.html "Bruce Schneier responded with On the Dangers of Cryptocurrencies and the Uselessness of Blockchain."

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18:22 matey; https://geti2p.net/en/

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18:22 matey; yep im wrong https://geti2p.net/en/docs/applications/gitlab

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18:22 matey; what have i got against i2p? hmm

18:22 TR News; Linux process monitoring with... DOOM. Seriously. https://lunduke.substack.com/p/linux-process-monitoring-with-doom

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18:22 TR Bot; Linux process monitoring with... DOOM. Seriously.

18:23 TR News; systemd oomd = DOOM

18:23 matey; OH!

18:24 matey; https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor

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18:24 TR Bot; I2P Compared to Tor - I2P

18:24 MinceR; java, probably

18:24 matey; C, not Java (ewww)

18:24 matey; yep!

18:24 matey; i do not use java for anything.

18:24 matey; so thats got to be what i have against i2p

18:24 matey; its not i2p, its java

18:24 matey; i dont do java

18:24 matey; and ive not done java pretty much forever

18:25 matey; my girlfriend can code in java incidentally

18:25 matey; it doesnt make her a fan, it just adds to her skills

18:25 schestowitz[TR]; matey: btw, this explains my plans https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/phase-two-of-life/

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18:25 TR Bot; Blog Archive Entering Phase Two of Life

18:25 matey; i dont know why youre showing me this :)

18:25 schestowitz[TR]; I refrain from saying still-unknown things

18:25 matey; but ill look, because shrug

18:26 matey; i have my reasons

18:26 schestowitz[TR]; ok

18:26 schestowitz[TR]; java programming is not easy

18:26 schestowitz[TR]; if done above mere API level

18:26 schestowitz[TR]; you can teach people something like swing

18:26 matey; techrights remains a source of leads to things going on in the free software world

18:26 schestowitz[TR]; but that limits what they can achieve

18:26 matey; i just apply a LOT of filters.

18:26 schestowitz[TR]; thanks

18:27 schestowitz[TR]; that's the intention

18:27 matey; well it takes a lot of

18:27 schestowitz[TR]; we try to make tuxmachines better too

18:27 matey; basically you drink from an rss firehose

18:27 schestowitz[TR]; not just loweing the load tenfold for Ariadne to not worry about i/o but also adding features

18:27 matey; then you filter out most of it

18:27 matey; then you do whatever it is you do to it

18:27 schestowitz[TR]; the news cycles on www are dying

18:27 matey; then i try to undo some of that

18:28 schestowitz[TR]; due mostly to journalism being de-funded

18:28 matey; the last step is the one that takes me the most time

18:28 matey; but i dont prefer to drink the firehose myself so

18:28 matey; tada

18:28 schestowitz[TR]; we catagorise it

18:28 schestowitz[TR]; *teg

18:28 matey; funnily enough, i believe you ALSO work to undo some of the bs

18:28 matey; then i work to undo some of yours

18:29 schestowitz[TR]; pipes of pipes

18:29 matey; its a very windows-like workflow but considering that it starts with the tech press

18:29 matey; oh if only it were a pipeline

18:29 matey; its more like lots of cut and paste

18:29 schestowitz[TR]; social control media and gulag search/noise ("news") is worse

18:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-09.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-10.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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18:30 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> java programming is not easy <- i think it just makes some very basic things incredibly tedious

18:31 matey; everything is an object-- a rectally inserted one

18:31 TR News; Toward customizable timber, grown in a lab | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology https://news.mit.edu/2022/lab-timber-wood-0525 maybe MIY can help Bill Gates and his BFF Epstein PATENT it

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18:31 TR Bot; Toward customizable timber, grown in a lab | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology

18:31 schestowitz[TR]; matey: for some sorts of programs java is too much

18:31 matey; i think people have their reasons for using it, just like i have my reasons for avoiding it like a plague

18:31 schestowitz[TR]; GC and all

18:31 schestowitz[TR]; you just malloc what you need

18:31 schestowitz[TR]; do some tokenisation

18:32 matey; for some sorts of programs java is too much <- i really think thats the end result of every java program

18:32 matey; its just too much

18:32 schestowitz[TR]; process streams, done

18:32 matey; i always tell my gf shes a better coder than i am

18:32 matey; she doesnt believe me, but i tell her ill prove it sooner or later (it should be obvious really)

18:33 matey; i know what im talking about

18:33 *schestowitz[TR] thinks of RMS talking about Lady Gaaaaaga

18:33 matey; /me has never heard of rms talking about lady gaga

18:34 schestowitz[TR]; he mentions that in many interviews

18:34 schestowitz[TR]; saying she's like a hacker

18:34 matey; /:)

18:34 matey; shes done some stuff that i like

18:34 matey; i dont get the hacker comparison

18:35 matey; /me would love to see i2p implemented in c

18:35 matey; even c++

18:35 TR News; "If youre a Patronizer, youll automatically get books as per your patronage level." Patronizer :-) https://mwl.io/archives/18782

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18:35 TR Bot; Prohibition Orcs Kickstarter now live! Michael W Lucas

18:36 matey; /me could hold it up to herr doktor like a cross against a wampire

18:36 matey; the power of c++ compels you!

18:36 matey; /me isnt a huge fan of it at all, just better than java or rust

18:37 schestowitz[TR]; I find c++ difficult because you need to memorise classes and libs

18:37 schestowitz[TR]; without it, you sppend a lot of time studying function calls

18:37 matey; without c++ you mean?

18:37 schestowitz[TR]; I wonder if Torvbalds ever TRIED C++

18:37 schestowitz[TR]; he's in a privileged position

18:38 schestowitz[TR]; so he probably started Linux as a teen and focused on that

18:38 schestowitz[TR]; never bothered with something else

18:38 matey; if im sympathetic to torvalds on anything, its his position on c

18:38 schestowitz[TR]; except in helsinki uni syllabus

18:38 matey; but i think like rms backpedals under duress now

18:38 MinceR; i don't think Torvalds even tried to learn C++

18:38 schestowitz[TR]; right

18:38 matey; torvalds is getting nicer to c++

18:38 schestowitz[TR]; as if c++ is a new thing

18:39 matey; when i was like 10

18:39 schestowitz[TR]; they lobby him into rust

18:39 matey; i thought c++ was the future

18:39 matey; they lobby him into rust <- thts awful, rust isnt even a language

18:39 matey; its a webapi

18:39 matey; cleverly disguised as a programming language

18:39 matey; "you can even run it locally!"

18:39 matey; "see you next month!"

18:40 matey; python 3 either is or will be the same

18:40 matey; in this regard

18:40 matey; its not that bad yet (but its not a whole lot better)

18:40 TR News; Drogue Cloud: Release 0.10.0 https://blog.drogue.io/drogue-cloud-zero-ten/

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18:40 TR Bot; Drogue Cloud: Release 0.10.0 Drogue IoT

18:41 matey; its a webapi thats closer to being a real language

18:41 matey; or a real language thats transitioning to being a webapi

18:41 TR News; " financial worries could also have implications for mental health." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-27/renters-facing-increased-pressure-cost-of-living-increases/101182030

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18:41 TR Bot; Renters under increasing strain as cost-of-living pressures bite across Australia - ABC News

18:42 matey; when i was like 10, i was like

18:42 matey; ill learn c++ and then develop software for a living!

18:42 matey; hehehe

18:42 matey; when i was like 20 i was like "but id rather be a janitor"

18:43 matey; clean toilets or work for microsoft

18:43 matey; not a hard decision to make

18:43 matey; admittedly, not the only 2. but theyre working on it

18:43 MinceR; 10 193906 < matey> i thought c++ was the future

18:43 MinceR; it's the past and the future

18:43 MinceR; maybe it will even have module support eventually

18:43 matey; im not trying to say its a dead language

18:43 TR News; FOSS4Spectroscopy: R vs Python | R-bloggers https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/foss4spectroscopy-r-vs-python/ Source: r-ers

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18:43 TR Bot; R vs Python | R-bloggers

18:44 matey; i really do prefer it to rust and java

18:44 matey; they should port more things to c++ imo

18:44 matey; just not c code probably

18:44 matey; i DO like that c++ takes care of certain things for you

18:44 matey; i like python for the same reason!

18:44 matey; python used to add a lot of other options to that

18:44 matey; you can also do this and this and this

18:44 matey; then there were like AND YOU SHOULD

18:45 matey; now theyre like OR ELSE

18:45 matey; i liked when they were optiona

18:45 matey; s

18:45 matey; c++ helps you with some things

18:45 TR News; "Wordplay! The German word for a cupcake mold is frmchen." https://soatok.blog/2022/07/06/introducing-cupcake/

=> ↺ https://soatok.blog/2022/07/06/introducing-cupcake/

18:45 matey; sometimes its too helpful

18:45 TR Bot; Introducing Cupcake - Dhole Moments

18:45 matey; "i ironed your underwear!"

18:45 matey; "you couldve taken them off first"

18:45 matey; "sorry!"

18:46 MinceR; lol

18:46 matey; i think its still better than a lot of things-- said three times now, just to be clear

18:46 schestowitz[TR]; c++ is very much alive and thriving, still

18:46 schestowitz[TR]; my brother and sister use it every day

18:46 MinceR; (cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/68QAAoJ

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18:46 TR Bot; July 8 - rimgo

18:47 schestowitz[TR]; the web-based cultists don't use

18:47 schestowitz[TR]; for web things and browser things there are "frameworks"

18:47 matey; i think the web cult is nearing the scientology / jw point

18:47 schestowitz[TR]; these only get more bloated over time

18:48 matey; where a lot of people know exactly whats wrong with jw and a lot of people are leaving scientology (maybe even tom and john)

18:48 matey; which doesnt mean either are going anywhere

18:48 matey; i saw jw people the other day

18:48 matey; "oh thank god, i thought you were scientologists!"

18:49 TR News; "Covid continues to pummel the health system. Interest rates are going up and the energy crisis rages. The new government has its work cut out." https://michaelwest.com.au/whither-medicare-the-threat-to-labors-light-on-the-hill/

=> ↺ https://michaelwest.com.au/whither-medicare-the-threat-to-labors-light-on-the-hill/

18:49 TR Bot; Whither Medicare? The threat to Labor's light on the hill - Michael West

18:49 matey; but they do split up families and perpetuate family rape (worst of both worlds)

18:49 matey; oh your mother isnt a jw? you should probably stay away from her

18:49 matey; oh your uncles raping you? well unless two people saw him, it doesnt count

18:50 matey; its a seriously fucked up religion

18:50 matey; "religion"

18:50 TR News; "In a Git repository you can lose things, in the sense of forgetting where they are. But they can almost always be found again, one way or another, and when you find them they will be exactly the same as they were before." https://blog.plover.com/2022/07/06#tips-2

=> ↺ https://blog.plover.com/2022/07/06#tips-2

18:50 TR Bot; The Universe of Discourse : Things I wish everyone knew about Git (Part II)

18:50 matey; started by guy whose like "im starting my own calendar! with blackjack and hookers"

18:50 matey; "this didnt happen, did it?"

18:51 matey; "time for calendar 2.0!"

18:51 matey; you know theyre insane because their primary rivals are the mormons

18:51 TR News; "However, downstream projects needed to build on the API. That meant vendoring parts of Kubernetes or separating API specifications from the code." https://matt-rickard.com/how-kubernetes-broke-git/

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18:51 TR Bot; How Kubernetes Broke Git

18:52 matey; "ok my wives against your wives"

18:52 matey; "thats-- no!"

18:52 matey; "in a bake-off!" "still no!"

18:52 TR News; "Ive been using the tail command for about 25 years, so you might think Id know something about it. But last week, as I was putting together a short shell script (not this one), I opened the man page for tail and learned something new." https://leancrew.com/all-this/2022/07/tail-i-lose/

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18:53 TR Bot; Tail I lose - All this

18:53 TR News; "Bun is a modern JavaScript runtime like Node or Deno" https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/07/06/bun

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18:53 TR Bot; Daring Fireball: Bun

18:53 matey; this was a metaphor for the state of the web

18:53 matey; i think its still working

18:53 matey; the metaphor i mean

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18:55 matey; a lot of mormon men are overweight because all their wives do is bake and have kids (and wait on their husbands hand and foot)

18:56 matey; the funny thing is, that might sound appealing to a lot of old-fashioned men

18:56 matey; who still stay the fuck away from mormonism, because wouldnt you

18:57 matey; similarly, the web leads to bloat and waits on you hand and foot

18:57 matey; but probably still something to stay the fuck away from

18:58 matey; and it bakes your cpu

18:58 matey; so there you go-- the web is mormon

18:58 matey; youre welcome

18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

18:59 matey; "hello, my name is elder white-- and i would like to share with you this awesome url"

7 PM, July 10

19:00 matey; "would you like some free cookies now? theyre all homemade by our own relief society"

19:01 matey; "hello, my name is elder smith-- you wont mind if we take down your address and your phone?"

19:01 matey; "of course, we will not bother you-- we will only track you for the next 17 years"

19:03 matey; the web even works with the australian and indian governments to try to stop you from masturbating!

19:03 matey; (this one is a stretch but its thrown in because its funny)

19:05 schestowitz[TR]; maybe tuxmachines will also have gemin i support soon

19:05 schestowitz[TR]; httpd for sure

19:05 schestowitz[TR]; *https

19:05 matey; well you cant run it on bsd, youd have to change the tagline then

19:05 TR News; DO YOU HAVE "SMAAAAAAART" IN YO WATER? https://staceyoniot.com/how-to-add-smarts-to-a-hot-water-heater/

=> ↺ https://staceyoniot.com/how-to-add-smarts-to-a-hot-water-heater/

19:05 TR Bot; How to add smarts to a hot water heater - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis

19:06 TR News; NewsWaffle: now you can read your favourite news sites in Gemini or gemini:// gemini://station.martinrue.com/acidus/e3e516a434144825a0252d5d75d2b102

=> ↺ gemini://station.martinrue.com/acidus/e3e516a434144825a0252d5d75d2b102

19:07 TR News; Many news sites already supported gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/

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19:08 TR News; Case of point: As Omicron subvariants power a Covid-19 infection surge, world govts keep calm and carry on gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/article?https%3A%2F%2Fwww.straitstimes.com%2Fasia%2Fas-omicron-subvariants-power-a-covid-19-infection-surge-world-govts-keep-calm-and-carry-on

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19:09 TR News; "Today is the beginning of the 2022 Old Computer Challenge, for a week I am not restricted to one hour of Internet access per day." gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/old-computer-challenge-v2-day1.gmi

=> ↺ gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/old-computer-challenge-v2-day1.gmi

19:10 TR News; Gemini giving a consistent experience of your choice helps avoid clutter, distraction. You can focus fully and deeply on the text.

19:11 matey; a smaller marketshare is ideal

19:11 matey; "linux" (or gnu/whatever) was less terrible before it was good for everything

19:12 TR News; Human clock https://humanclock.com/

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19:12 TR Bot; The Human Clock:

19:12 matey; now its good for everything and terrible for anything id want it for

19:13 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167058

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19:13 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

19:15 TR News; Secure communication with light particles TU Darmstadt https://www.tu-darmstadt.de/universitaet/aktuelles_meldungen/einzelansicht_369408.en.jsp Source: tu-darmstadt

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19:15 TR Bot; Secure communication with light particles TU Darmstadt

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19:34 TR News; "Hello from the other side - these characters are now written from Madrid, Spain!" gemini://compudanzas.net/biosejo_120220710.gmi

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19:35 TR News; [Cr]acker claims they stole police data on a billion Chinese citizens | Engadget https://www.engadget.com/china-hack-data-billion-citizens-police-173052297.html Source: engadget

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19:35 TR Bot; claims they stole police data on a billion Chinese citizens | Engadget

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19:37 TR News; "We pejoratively talk about copy and paste programming as something done by incompetent programmers who dont know how to write code from scratch." https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/beyond-the-four-document-model/

=> ↺ https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/beyond-the-four-document-model/

19:37 TR Bot; Beyond the Four-Document Model Buttondown

19:38 TR News; Bullshit HEY HI hype https://scitechdaily.com/ai-algorithm-predicts-future-crimes-one-week-in-advance-with-90-accuracy/

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19:38 TR Bot; AI Algorithm Predicts Future Crimes One Week in Advance With 90% Accuracy

19:43 TR News; Acoustic levitation used to build complex structures in mid-air | New Scientist https://www.newscientist.com/article/2326299-acoustic-levitation-used-to-build-complex-structures-in-mid-air/ Source: newscientist

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19:43 TR Bot; Acoustic levitation used to build complex structures in mid-air | New Scientist

19:44 TR News; Robotic arms connected directly to brain of partially paralyzed man allows him to feed himself - Science & research news | Frontiers https://blog.frontiersin.org/2022/06/28/robotic-arms-feed-partially-paralyzed-man-bmi/ Source: frontiersin

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19:44 TR Bot; Robotic arms connected directly to brain of partially paralyzed man allows him to feed himself - Science & research news | Frontiers

19:46 TR News; "Following last years row about Apples proposal to scan all the photos on your iPhone camera roll, EU Commissioner Johansson proposed a child sex abuse regulation that would compel providers of end-to-end encrypted messaging services to scan all messages in the client, and not just for historical abuse images but for new abuse images" https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/07/06/text-mining-is-harder-than-you-think/

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19:46 TR Bot; Text mining is harder than you think | Light Blue Touchpaper

19:48 TR News; NIST is renowned or notorious for back doors. Don't trust any of its ciphers. https://www.nextgov.com/cybersecurity/2022/07/nist-identifies-four-quantum-resistant-encryption-algorithms/368954/

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19:48 TR Bot; Identifies 4 Quantum-Resistant Encryption Algorithms - Nextgov

19:49 TR News; The "quantum" nonsense in relation to encryption is just that. Nonsense. The media repeat "quantum" technobabble.

19:49 TR News; "Smart contracts deployed to Ethereum are, in theory, immutable. Bytecode is uploaded, a constructor function is executed, and the resulting code is stored on the blockchain and cannot be updated." https://matt-rickard.com/smart-contract-immutability/

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19:49 TR Bot; Smart Contract Immutability

19:50 TR News; "Hypotheses that can be wrong are the cornerstone of science. We must be able to run experiments to collect evidence that proves or disproves our theories. Karl Popper, one of the most influential philosophers of science, originally drew the distinction between science and non-science as falsifiability." https://matt-rickard.com/not-even-wrong/

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19:50 TR Bot; Not Even Wrong

19:51 TR News; "How to Calculate Relative Frequencies in R?, The relative frequencies/proportions of values in one or more columns of a data frame can frequently be calculated in R." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/how-to-calculate-relative-frequencies-in-r/

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19:51 TR Bot; to Calculate Relative Frequencies in R? | R-bloggers

19:53 TR News; "The HN API is hosted on Firebase and thus has the ability to get real-time data, but theres no Perl interface to it, and I really dont have time to tinker with an entire async setup for a page thats updated every hour at most." https://gerikson.com/blog/comp/HN-LO-queue.html

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19:53 TR Bot; A simple update queue for HN&&LO - The occasional scrivener - Gustaf Erikson's blog

19:53 TR News; Better yet do NOT have a "smart" home. Smart people stay away from this 'spytech' https://staceyoniot.com/podcast-lock-down-your-smart-homes-data/

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19:53 TR Bot; Podcast: Lock down your smart home's data - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis

19:55 TR News; Probably funded by the military for totally unrelated use cases https://home.dartmouth.edu/news/2022/06/sunflower-eye-sky

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19:55 TR Bot; A 'Sunflower' Eye in the Sky | Dartmouth

19:55 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/18080272

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19:55 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/3tfu1m6khcc11.png created on 2018-08-02 22:41:21.505814

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19:55 -tomaw/Wallops-Happy 32nd birthday EFF: https://www.eff.org/

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19:56 TR News; "A computer algorithm can use a technique called "ghost imaging" to reconstruct objects from a person's brainwaves that the person themselves can't see" (but they call everything HEY HI now) https://www.newscientist.com/article/2327688-ai-can-use-your-brainwaves-to-see-things-that-you-cant/

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19:56 TR Bot; AI can use your brainwaves to see things that you can't | New Scientist

19:57 TR News; How many languages do we need to learn about responsible machine learning? useR! 2022 Conference | R-bloggers https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/how-many-languages-do-we-need-to-learn-about-responsible-machine-learning-user-2022-conference/ Source: r-ers

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19:57 TR Bot; many languages do we need to learn about responsible machine learning? useR! 2022 Conference | R-bloggers

19:59 TR News; "This anniversary completely slipped me by, if one can call it that. I was still on WordPress in June 2012, and I made the decision to turn off web comments permanently." https://rubenerd.com/a-decade-without-blog-comments/

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19:59 TR Bot; A decade without blog comments

8 PM, July 10

20:00 TR News; Ciao Roma, but its soggy pasta for the limping kangaroo - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/ciao-roma-but-its-soggy-pasta-for-the-limping-kangaroo/ Source: michaelwest

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20:00 TR Bot; Ciao Roma, but it's soggy pasta for the limping kangaroo - Michael West

20:01 TR News; This is good too. It'll kill Twitter faster. https://www.axios.com/2022/07/08/elon-musk-twitter-deal-terminating

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20:01 TR Bot; Elon Musk tries to walk away from Twitter deal

20:02 TR News; Bitcoin blockchain activity has plummeted in recent months | TechRadar https://www.techradar.com/news/bitcoin-blockchain-activity-has-plummeted-in-recent-months Source: techradar

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20:02 TR Bot; blockchain activity has plummeted in recent months | TechRadar

20:03 TR News; Microsoft begins "Extinguish" phase of dealing with Open Source. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166960#comment-34293

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20:03 TR Bot; Microsoft Still Attacking From the Inside | Tux Machines

20:08 TR News; Overusing the term "HEY HI" again... or misusing it https://cacm.acm.org/news/262498-using-ai-to-fight-food-fraud/fulltext

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20:08 TR Bot; Using AI to Fight Food Fraud | News | Communications of the ACM

20:13 TR News; Building explainability into the components of machine-learning models | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology https://news.mit.edu/2022/explainability-machine-learning-0630

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20:13 TR Bot; Building explainability into the components of machine-learning models | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology

20:14 TR News; "The FreeBSD project -- an Open Source operating system -- has added a fun new item to their Code of Conduct: they now expressly forbid "virtual hugs" (such as an animated .GIF of a teddy bear hugging a kitten) without prior consent." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/freebsd-outlaws-virtual-hugs

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20:14 TR Bot; FreeBSD outlaws virtual hugs - by Bryan Lunduke

20:15 TR News; Worthless company "buys" (hires) another worthless company https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/06/ibm-acquires-databand-to-bolster-its-data-observability-stack/

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20:15 TR Bot; acquires Databand to bolster its data observability stack TechCrunch

20:17 TR News; Charles Babbages Difference Engine Turns 200 - IEEE Spectrum https://spectrum.ieee.org/charles-babbage-difference-engine Source: spectrum

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20:17 TR Bot; Charles Babbages Difference Engine Turns 200 - IEEE Spectrum

20:18 TR News; "The U.S. may never regain its dominance as a destination for international students. Heres why that matters." https://www.chronicle.com/article/fading-beacon?cid=gen_sign_in

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20:18 TR Bot; Why America Is Losing International Students

20:19 TR News; Surveillance that runs on electricity... marketed as energy-saving. https://www.pnnl.gov/news-media/electric-connection-homes-helping-grid

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20:19 TR Bot; An Electric Connection: Homes Helping the Grid | PNNL

20:21 TR News; This is done already and is not exciting https://apnews.com/article/technology-virginia-8821746f1318f7537fb564aa53c8820b

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20:21 TR Bot; The next frontier for drones: Letting them fly out of sight | AP News

20:22 TR News; "I wrote a bunch about social media in the past few years, and I sort of stopped trying to "convince" anyone to stop using it (be it entirely, or even just partially), but I still remark on the dangers of the services out there." gemini://tmo.smol.pub/1657471912

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20:23 TR News; "Anyway, I still support (or sometimes just tolerate) that people still use social networks, but more people are probably leaving them (all of them) at this point, and that can only be a good thing. It's always up to the individual, though. No one will do it for them." gemini://tmo.smol.pub/1657471912

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20:25 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/140112101

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20:25 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living http://24.media.tumblr.com/b745e9729ca615368a2587db2bb47142/tumblr_mz82wjEYsl1s07tl7o1_500.jpg created on 2014-01-12 23:32:08.699170

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20:31 TR News; Regarding social control media, many people leave that in droves. Regrets? Maybe. But no doubt 5 or 10 years ago it had a lot more impact, momentum, network effect. Now, the next "cool thing" is abandoning it all. Good. Society moved on and beyond this plague, which in recent years tries to "addict" us and provoke us for "engagement". Screw them. Let them rot with their 'tobaccoWeb'.

20:32 TR News; Smart, Dissolving Pacemaker Communicates With Body-Area Sensor and Control Network - News Center https://news.feinberg.northwestern.edu/2022/05/26/smart-dissolving-pacemaker-communicates-with-body-area-sensor-and-control-network/

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20:32 TR Bot; Smart, Dissolving Pacemaker Communicates With Body-Area Sensor and Control Network - News Center

20:32 XRevan86; > https://ircz.de/p/18080272

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20:32 XRevan86; MinceR: Is that a C joke?

20:33 XRevan86; (or SQL, et al.)

20:34 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/10/un-124-alleged-acts-of-sexual-violence-reported-during-war-in-ukraine-news "UN: 124 alleged acts of sexual violence reported during war in Ukraine"

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20:34 TR Bot; .

20:34 TR News; My current mixed views on the Linux kernel netconsole https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/NetconsoleMixedViews Source: utcc

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20:34 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/NetconsoleMixedViews

20:34 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: putin is f***ing with ukraine

20:35 XRevan86; schestowitz: Accurate.

20:35 schestowitz[TR]; sends a message, big country

20:35 schestowitz[TR]; very large military

20:35 schestowitz[TR]; bigger than all their neighbouring countries

20:36 schestowitz[TR]; he could start with a small state like latvia via belarus

20:38 TR News; "The software is okay, but not perfect. The Lumina control panel is a Qt application, so in my opinion its better than an Electron app. But doesnt feel as native as a Mac application like Camo." https://macwright.com/2022/07/07/lumina-review.html it's not a review, it's a gift

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20:38 TR Bot; a review - macwright.com

20:40 TR News; "The former CEO of Mauritius Telecom, S. Singh, stated in a radio programme on Friday 1st July 2022 at 17h00, that the Prime Minister of Mauritius, asked him to allow a third-party to install a network sniffer in the premises of the ISP." https://sysadmin-journal.com/what-is-a-network-sniffer/

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20:40 TR Bot; What is a network sniffer?

20:41 TR News; Troy Hunt receives blessing from the criminals of Microsoft. A way for them to pass a bribe or control people. Like a cult. Congrats. The religion (or crime) wants you... https://www.troyhunt.com/mvp-award-12/

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20:41 TR Bot; Troy Hunt: MVP Award 12

20:42 TR News; "In a year GDP contracted 7.7 per cent, and as we brace for another round of reverse migrations, and as the farmers wait unheeded at the gates of Delhi, Indian billionaires reached record levels of wealth" https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/articles/forbes-india-and-pandoras-pandemic-box/

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20:42 TR Bot; Forbes, India and Pandoras Pandemic Box

20:43 TR News; Audacious 4.2 Adds Initial Support for Ogg FLAC Streams, Winamp UI Enhancements Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167059

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20:43 TR Bot; Audacious 4.2 Adds Initial Support for Ogg FLAC Streams, Winamp UI Enhancements | Tux Machines

20:45 TR News; [PATCH 0/2] Optimize memchr() https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220710142822.52539-1-arthurchang09@gmail.com/T/ Source: kernel

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20:45 TR Bot; [PATCH 0/2] Optimize memchr()

20:46 TR News; "We explore topics including the hardware and software powering NASAs Ingenuity Mars Helicopter; JPL's switch from Solaris to Linux; the open source projects, tools, and philosophy at JPL, ...and more." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/149177/brunch-with-brent-tim-canham-jupiter-extras-87/

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20:46 TR Bot; Brunch With Brent: Tim Canham | Jupiter Extras 87 | Jupiter Broadcasting

20:56 TR News; Links 10/07/2022: Audacious Music Player 4.2, Kdenlive 22.04.3, and GNUnet 0.17.2 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/10/audacious-4-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/10/audacious-4-2/

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20:56 TR Bot; Links 10/07/2022: Audacious Music Player 4.2, Kdenlive 22.04.3, and GNUnet 0.17.2 | Techrights

20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

9 PM, July 10

21:04 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167060

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21:04 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines

21:06 TR News; Software: Drogue Cloud, psDooM, and Cockpit Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167061

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21:06 TR Bot; Software: Drogue Cloud, psDooM, and Cockpit | Tux Machines

21:06 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167062

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21:06 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

21:17 MinceR; 10 213253 < XRevan86> MinceR: Is that a C joke?

21:17 MinceR; could be, but SQL fits better

21:17 XRevan86; MinceR: It does because of interactiveness.

21:19 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/14011244

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21:19 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living http://i.imgur.com/1rdm8Ok.png created on 2014-01-12 10:14:38.831290

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21:20 TR News; How To Install Wine On Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Itsubuntu.com https://itsubuntu.com/how-to-install-wine-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/ Source: ItsUbuntu | GNU | Linux

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21:20 TR Bot; To Install Wine On Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Itsubuntu.com

21:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-09.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-10.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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21:38 DaemonFC; Having brake issues with the car again.

21:38 DaemonFC; Christ.

21:38 DaemonFC; I just redid the brakes. What the hell is happening with that thing?

21:38 DaemonFC; It's under warranty. I'm going to have them look at it again.

21:39 DaemonFC; I call it the "farting brake pedal".

21:39 DaemonFC; Because sometimes it makes a "farting" noise and the pedal pulses a little, and then it's fine again for a while.

21:40 DaemonFC; It was doing it almost every single time I stopped when I took it in for new wheel bearings, brake pads, and rotors, back in April.

21:40 DaemonFC; I have not seen anything weird going on with the rotors.

21:40 DaemonFC; I inspected them when I got home. Took it through the car was and had it flush everything out really good.

21:40 DaemonFC; I had a bird strike this morning taking Mandy to work.

21:41 DaemonFC; A bird flew in front of the car, swooped down and I felt it in the steering wheel when I hit it going about 40 or 45 miles per hour.

21:41 DaemonFC; It felt like it bounced off the bumper or something, but it may have gone under the car.

21:42 DaemonFC; I went to the car wash in case there were bird bits or something stuck in the wheel well somewhere that I couldn't see.

21:42 DaemonFC; The thing was fucking huge.

21:43 DaemonFC; I ran it back on my dashcam and it captured the strike.

21:43 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Reminds me of Married With Children.

21:44 DaemonFC; Remember when Steve had to drive his Mercedes through Grant Park to get away from a road rage incident and he hit a bunch of pigeons?

21:44 DaemonFC; They got stuck in his radiator grill and roasted to death on it.

21:44 DaemonFC; Al says "Bud!" and he's got a bucket and tongs and says "Already on it, dad! Just call me the Colonel!".

21:45 DaemonFC; You had to watch through the series to notice that something bad was always happening to Steve's Mercedes.

21:47 DaemonFC; Just off the top of my head there were the pigeons, Al backing into it and leaving a note "Next time buy an American car!", Marcy driving it in defiance of Steve telling her to leave her hands off of it, and scraping the side on the mailbox (iirc), and finally, they go camping and a bear attacks it and rips it apart and tosses Steve the hood ornament, and he's in shock going "$26,000!!!!". (Which bought a Mercedes in 1985, of course. Now you

21:47 DaemonFC; can barely get a KIA for that.)

21:48 DaemonFC; The US government says the value of $1 when I was born in 1984 is now something like 42 cents. Something like that. Which doesn't sound so bad.

21:49 schestowitz[TR]; hi

21:49 DaemonFC; Until you consider that if you adjust it for rent, it's about 19 cents. If you adjust it for food, it's about 24 cents, and if you adjust it for a comparable size, brand, and quality of car, it's about 25 cents or so.

21:50 DaemonFC; If you adjust it for gas, you're at about 16 cents.

21:50 MinceR; (cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/GeAC27v

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21:50 TR Bot; This cat I saw on Insta looks disgusted yet intrigued by the life choices it's witnessing - rimgo

21:50 schestowitz[TR]; wall of text

21:50 DaemonFC; So I haven't figured out where the BLS inflation thing is getting its data from. It's probably nothing you have to buy, obviously.

21:50 MinceR; 10 225007 < schestowitz[TR]> wall of text

21:50 MinceR; https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/04/10/i-hope-you-like-text

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21:51 TR Bot; I Hope You Like Text - Penny Arcade

21:53 DaemonFC; About the only things that have gone down in actual or inflation adjusted terms are consumer crap that you really don't need, such as television sets, or things that people don't want anymore and can't command the price they had as a luxury item, like a stereo system and the CDs it can play.

21:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Sweatshops.

21:57 DaemonFC; The people who voted for Ross Perot were really onto something.

21:58 DaemonFC; Shame he didn't win.

21:58 DaemonFC; I think he really would have terminated NAFTA before things could ever get this bad.

21:59 DaemonFC; We already had the Canada-US Free Trade Agreement, and that didn't turn us into a "free trade zone" with a third world country where the money would flow in one direction and sweatshop goods would pour back in.

10 PM, July 10

22:00 DaemonFC; When you throw in Mexico, I mean... It didn't make Mexico much better.

22:00 DaemonFC; There's a few really rich Mexicans that run the sweatshops.

22:00 DaemonFC; Some got bad jobs in factories. It ruined Mexico's agriculture and banking sectors.

22:00 DaemonFC; The US banks and corn and stuff started flowing in, which made the drug problem worse.

22:01 DaemonFC; Without food crops to grow legitimately to meet domestic needs, the farmers in Mexico turned to things like Marijuana.

22:02 DaemonFC; The government in Mexico is too weak and corrupt to deal with the drug trade. At the local level, the cartels run everything. They're so well armed that the military can't even move in and restore law and order.

22:02 DaemonFC; So it's at a standstill, and by standstill, that means ongoing bloodbath.

22:03 schestowitz[TR]; brb

22:03 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: you highlight me with walls of text

22:03 schestowitz[TR]; anb it seems off-topic anyway

22:03 DaemonFC; The "Free Trade Agreements" benefit Microsoft, GAFAM really.

22:04 schestowitz[TR]; yeah

22:04 schestowitz[TR]; not just fake "tech" companues

22:04 schestowitz[TR]; pantagonware

22:04 schestowitz[TR]; but other sectors too

22:04 DaemonFC; It makes it hard to establish domestic tech and software industries because you agree to the deals, you agree to the patents.

22:04 schestowitz[TR]; it's just codifying what ensures the rich get richer

22:04 schestowitz[TR]; they don't need to "succeed"

22:04 schestowitz[TR]; they just rig the game

22:04 schestowitz[TR]; they control everytthing

22:04 schestowitz[TR]; even the elections

22:05 DaemonFC; These deals have created a perverse bizarro world where most Americans have a third world standard of living while everyone else hates us because they assume we can seize control via an election or something and put the train back on the tracks.

22:05 DaemonFC; Saying you hate Americans is like saying you hate Russians, blanket statement.

22:06 DaemonFC; Most of them couldn't get rid of Putin if they wanted to.

22:06 DaemonFC; The ones that could have been bought off so that they don't want to.

22:07 schestowitz[TR]; USians are sometimes distrusted because of perceievd arrogance

22:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I'm writing an article about Walmart and canned meat shortages.

22:08 DaemonFC; How they use the websites and apps to control people, hide shortage issues until you try to order something, and charge more if you go into their store.

22:09 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> USians are sometimes distrusted because of perceievd arrogance

22:09 DaemonFC; I wouldn't necessarily say that I'm any more or less arrogant than the average person I've encountered in Western Europe.

22:10 DaemonFC; Most of them think their country that has had the shit taxed out of it while they stand in 6 year lines to get surgery from "free healthcare" and they're overrun by crime is the pinnacle of civilization.

22:10 DaemonFC; I'm on here every day saying I hate Illinois.

22:10 schestowitz[TR]; IL

22:10 schestowitz[TR]; they should add a second L

22:11 DaemonFC; Well, it's a postal thing you know, like IN for Indiana, WI for Wisconsin, IA for Iowa.

22:12 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The funny thing is when we do our taxes and either owe or get a refund from the Illinois Department of Revenue....

22:12 DaemonFC; The bank says "State of ILL".

22:12 DaemonFC; On the statement it says "State of ILL" and then the amount going out or coming in.

22:12 schestowitz[TR]; ouch

22:13 schestowitz[TR]; "give me your ill"

22:13 DaemonFC; It's a very ILL state.

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22:14 DaemonFC; The rest of the state isn't much like Chicago at all, but it has too much political power, and most of the people there forget about the rest of the state entirely.

22:14 DaemonFC; It's dysfunctional.

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22:14 DaemonFC; It's like most states, you know. There's almost half the population that has no representation at all and can only complain about how fucked up everyone else made things.

22:15 DaemonFC; Most of the laws here are botched attempts to solve some ridiculous problem Chicago is having.

22:15 DaemonFC; Like the FOID Act, which didn't help anyone in Highland Park. 70-80 people shot every day in Chicago itself.

22:15 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> "give me your ill"

22:16 DaemonFC; The state is being taken over by immigrants who don't realize that the place is messed up and corrupt as fuck because they're from somewhere much worse so they don't see what the problem is.

22:16 DaemonFC; Like the Philippines.

22:17 DaemonFC; Say what you want about Pritzker, he's a damned sight better than bongbong.

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22:18 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I put in a couple of orders for canned luncheon meat at Walmart to wipe out the shelf of the store brand for Less Sodium and LITE.

22:18 DaemonFC; They're starting to have severe in stock problems.

22:18 DaemonFC; So I'm just going to buy all I can get of it when it is there and put it under the bed. No it's not a Madame Harmon thing. It stays good for 10 years and we eat quite a bit of it.

22:19 DaemonFC; They raised the price of the name brand significantly, but not the store brand oddly enough. So there used to be a relatively small difference, and now it's huge.

22:20 DaemonFC; $1.98 a can vs. $3.12, and now the name brand is $3.58 a can.

22:20 DaemonFC; They turned something we used to laugh at into something that's actually really really expensive.

22:21 DaemonFC; You used to look at SPAM as "thrifty" right? Because it was an example of industrial-scale problem solving for the agricultural industry. We'd pass out millions and millions of cans of it to prevent people from starving.

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22:22 DaemonFC; Just the way it's processed, it says "Use by 2033" or something on the can and to be honest if you store it right, it's probably safe for at least a couple more years after that.

22:22 schestowitz[TR]; 2033?

22:22 DaemonFC; YEAH!

22:22 schestowitz[TR]; might indicate they put nasty things in them

22:22 DaemonFC; It's really not.

22:22 schestowitz[TR]; like intesticides [sic]

22:22 DaemonFC; It's basically ham and pork. They salt it and then vacuum seal the can and cook it inside the can.

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22:23 schestowitz[TR]; a lot of that food as chemicals bad for the gut

22:23 DaemonFC; It's completely sterile inside the can and then there's salt, so yeah.

22:23 schestowitz[TR]; I only leanred after I had had canned food for ages

22:23 DaemonFC; It's pretty simple stuff that stays good indefinitely.

22:23 schestowitz[TR]; I forgot the key component in preservatives, not salt

22:23 DaemonFC; Like if you absolutely HAD to, you could probably crack open a can of SPAM and eat it 20 or 25 years from now.

22:24 DaemonFC; More, even. Nobody really knows.

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22:24 DaemonFC; It's not like food preservation like this is new. There's a guy on YouTube that eats old military rations that were packed for World War II and stuff.

22:24 DaemonFC; Including the meat.

22:25 DaemonFC; He unpacked some vacuum packed cigarettes in a tin can that were part of a British military ration from World War II and smoked them.

22:25 DaemonFC; They were still fine.

22:25 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naVyR6KlkWI

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22:25 TR Bot; https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=naVyR6KlkWI

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22:25 TR Bot; invidious.osi.kr | Elaine eats the cake - Invidious

22:25 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38SLdvLOUqw

=> ↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38SLdvLOUqw

22:25 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=38SLdvLOUqw

=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=38SLdvLOUqw

22:25 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Seinfeld - Peterman's Cake - Invidious

22:25 DaemonFC; I'd probably take a drag on one of them to see what a cigarette like that tasted like.

22:26 DaemonFC; I'm not a smoker, but occasionally, if it's something "decent", as an exception to the rule... Eh. This would be a curiosity thing, right?

22:26 DaemonFC; Probably wouldn't inhale.

22:27 DaemonFC; I was talking to mom about how hotel hot tubs used to be.

22:27 TR News; "XMonad (and Xmonad-Contrib) released a huge update back in October of last year." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rFBdUQ4M_k8

=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rFBdUQ4M_k8

22:27 TR Bot; Major Update Breaks Xmonad On Arch Based Linux Distros - Invidious

22:27 DaemonFC; Even like 30 years ago, there'd be men in the hot tub smoking a cigar, and the hot tub would be indoors, and nobody said anything about it.

22:27 DaemonFC; Today, you can't do that even if it's an outdoor hot tub.

22:28 DaemonFC; We used to go on vacation to the Adam's Mark Hotel in Indianapolis, and stay there for like a week, and they hosted a science fiction convention dad would go to.

22:28 DaemonFC; The hotel was really so classy that I can't imagine how they got a sci-fi convention there where a bunch of weirdos showed up.

22:29 DaemonFC; They got kicked out of the hotel a few times.

22:29 DaemonFC; Weird stuff would go on, like one year a woman was having sex with a bunch of men in the hot tub.

22:30 DaemonFC; Eventually, they just told the convention it would be the last year they were allowed to book the hotel.

22:30 DaemonFC; But the entire hotel chain went under eventually.

22:31 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/weekend-random-randomness-7-2-22-26.jpg

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22:33 TR News; FOSS Weekly #7 - Four new Linux Laptops, Shopifys $1M donation to Ruby, Metas new translation tool, and other news Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167063

=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167063

22:33 TR Bot; FOSS Weekly #7 - Four new Linux Laptops, Shopifys $1M donation to Ruby, Metas new translation tool, and other news | Tux Machines

22:34 DaemonFC; The only vacations where you had a chance of any fun were the ones where my dad was doing what he wanted to do all day, so he wasn't busy complaining.

22:34 DaemonFC; He's turned on Disney, but of course very few people his age and health conditions actually go there and spend any money. They're mainly good for being obnoxious on Facebook. Not much else. So the company sees no reason to cater to them anymore.

22:38 TR News; Twitter bombarded me 4 times with email spam. Twitter is dying. It's begging for traffic.

22:38 TR News; 4 times per day. Twitter is starting to become a spam machine.

22:39 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/07/10/7357403/

=> ↺ https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/07/10/7357403/

22:39 TR Bot; Zelenskyy orders Ukrainian Armed Forces to recapture southern Ukraine ? Ukraine?s Minister of Defence | Ukrainska Pravda

22:46 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: when does putler get "serious"?

22:46 schestowitz[TR]; I assume putin's "serious"| is just code for "nuke the civilian populations en masse"

22:47 XRevan86; schestowitz: I read it as "declare war finally and mobilise the population, and then get de-thrown by the angry masses".

22:47 schestowitz[TR]; no need to throw him

22:48 XRevan86; de-throne I mean :)

22:48 schestowitz[TR]; dethrone him would be better ;_)

22:48 schestowitz[TR]; catapult him over the border

22:48 XRevan86; but it's pretty close

22:48 schestowitz[TR]; to alaska

22:48 schestowitz[TR]; us will take cae of him

22:48 schestowitz[TR]; *care

22:48 schestowitz[TR]; palin and trump will wait

22:48 schestowitz[TR]; PutinPalin 2024

22:52 TR News; WTF is the point of this? Atom is dead. Microsoft killed it. Why install it on GNU/Linux? https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2D2rDjvnofs Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia

=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2D2rDjvnofs

22:52 TR Bot; How to install Atom text editor on Pop!_OS 22.04 - Invidious

22:53 TR News; "XWayland is such a useful project to make Wayland in 2022 actually usable offering a compatibility layer or better yet a full Xorg server to run apps managed under Wayland but it can do more than I expected." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8jmxhhdfSd8

=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8jmxhhdfSd8

22:53 TR Bot; You Can Run A Full X11 Session In Wayland?!?! - Invidious

22:56 XRevan86; Brought to you by "how to install OpenOffice.org on Ubuntu" and "how to install UMPlayer on Linux Mint"?

22:56 AdmFubar; https://www.ghacks.net/2022/07/10/apples-business-website-is-blocking-firefox-here-is-how-to-gain-access/

=> ↺ https://www.ghacks.net/2022/07/10/apples-business-website-is-blocking-firefox-here-is-how-to-gain-access/

22:56 TR Bot; Apple's Business website is blocking Firefox. Here is how to gain access - gHacks Tech News

22:57 AdmFubar; https://www.icij.org/investigations/uber-files/video-uber-global-lobbying-machine/

=> ↺ https://www.icij.org/investigations/uber-files/video-uber-global-lobbying-machine/

22:57 TR Bot; Watch: Inside Uber's global lobbying machine - ICIJ

22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

22:59 TR News; Linux 5.19-rc6 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167064

=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167064

22:59 TR Bot; Linux 5.19-rc6 | Tux Machines

22:59 schestowitz[TR]; ^ 5 mins ago

22:59 schestowitz[TR]; and already in irc

11 PM, July 10

23:04 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/weekend-random-randomness-7-2-22-36.jpg

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23:06 TR News; A Ton of News Sites, With Images Included, Now in Geminispace Owing to NewsWaffle | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/10/after-simplynews-comes-newswaffle/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/10/after-simplynews-comes-newswaffle/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/07/10/after-simplynews-comes-newswaffle/
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/10/after-simplynews-comes-newswaffle/

23:06 TR Bot; A Ton of News Sites, With Images Included, Now in Geminispace Owing to NewsWaffle | Techrights

23:06 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: ^^

23:06 schestowitz[TR]; with images now

23:06 schestowitz[TR]; gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/

=> ↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/

23:12 TR News; Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167065 Source: tuxmachines

=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167065

23:12 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines

23:12 bnchs; lol news channel just showed the king beheading a sheep uncensored

23:12 bnchs; on tv

23:13 bnchs; with no warning or anything whatsoever

23:13 schestowitz[TR]; wtf?

23:13 schestowitz[TR]; maybe he tries to say something

23:13 schestowitz[TR]; watch out

23:13 schestowitz[TR]; I cut off heads

23:14 schestowitz[TR]; I can barely stand seeing animal executions by electrocution or pistol to head

23:14 schestowitz[TR]; beheading is something else!

23:14 schestowitz[TR]; and this is a HIGH SOCIETY 'king'

23:14 schestowitz[TR]; "look, I'm just like yoy the peasants"

23:14 schestowitz[TR]; "|I behead harmless animals"

23:14 schestowitz[TR]; "I will protect the people from invading sheep"

23:21 bnchs; boardcasting gore on public television is nothing if you're the king

23:29 DaemonFC; News websites are the worst gas guzzlers of the Web.

23:30 DaemonFC; In 1998 over dial up, CNN could take 1 minute 40 seconds to load, due to excessive use of large images, and JavaScript.

23:30 DaemonFC; Now it's not much better if you don't have an ad blocker and a browser that can disable autoplay videos from loading.

23:32 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/hundreds-of-virginia-state-employees-resign-amid-new-policy-to-bring-them-back-to-the-office/

=> ↺ https://wgntv.com/news/hundreds-of-virginia-state-employees-resign-amid-new-policy-to-bring-them-back-to-the-office/

23:32 TR Bot; Hundreds of Virginia state employees resign amid new policy to bring them back to the office | WGN-TV

23:32 DaemonFC; Good way to get state "workers" to quit and not cause issues with the "unions".

23:33 DaemonFC; Their union contracts never said they'd be able to work remotely. Calling them all back means some will quit and you can downsize overstaffed government agencies left behind by your predecessor more easily.

23:34 AdmFubar; https://yro.slashdot.org/story/22/07/10/1811204/hit-the-kill-switch-how-uber-used-covert-tech-to-thwart-government-raids

=> ↺ https://yro.slashdot.org/story/22/07/10/1811204/hit-the-kill-switch-how-uber-used-covert-tech-to-thwart-government-raids

23:34 TR Bot; 'Hit the Kill Switch': How Uber Used Covert Tech to Thwart Government Raids - Slashdot

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