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00:11 schestowitz; MinceR: one looks like a shadow of the other
00:11 schestowitz; very nice
00:20 TR News; [Meme] #EPC 50th Anniversary Whitewash in Preparation... Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/whitewash-epo-50/ #Techrights #epo #europe #patents | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/04/whitewash-epo-50/
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00:20 TR Bot; [Meme] EPC 50th Anniversary Whitewash in Preparation | Techrights
00:39 *x is now known as kingoffrance
00:40 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22012346
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00:40 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/mqu7WH4.jpg created on 2022-01-23 16:22:41.167643
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00:42 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Ubuntu now has nag screens for "Ubuntu Pro" on the daily images.
00:42 schestowitz-TR; i saw that
00:43 XRevan86; MinceR: The is so afraid of homosexual cooties, poor thing.
00:43 XRevan86; * The guy
00:43 schestowitz-TR; [21:49] How to turn a #gnu #linux desktop into a noise machine like a #spyphone https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/02/ubuntu-22-04-ubuntu-pro-notification
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00:43 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 Dailies Show an Ubuntu Pro Notification on Login - OMG! Ubuntu!
00:44 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: I need your help proofreading
00:44 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/epo-self-service/
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00:44 TR Bot; The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXXXI: Public Service or Self-Service? | Techrights
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00:48 XRevan86; MinceR: For some reason, this reminded me of this display of heterosexuality: https://youtu.be/NWnSkt25tCg
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00:48 TR Bot; - YouTube
00:48 XRevan86; Zhirinovsky, LDPR, the best people Russia has to offer.
00:52 TR News; The EPOs Overseer/Overseen #Collusion Part XXXXI: Public Service or Self-Service? Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/epo-self-service/ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/04/epo-self-service/
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00:53 XRevan86; So these are the people with whom it would be okay to leave one's child alone, no cooties there, unlike some pesky school teacher :)
00:58 schestowitz-TR; what does cooties mean in this context?
00:59 schestowitz; just in https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenGL-4.2-Mesa-D3D12
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00:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenGL-4.2-Mesa-D3D12
00:59 TR Bot; Mesa D3D12 Driver Now Allows OpenGL 4.2 - Phoronix
00:59 schestowitz; wow, yay, microsoft..
01:00 schestowitz-TR; maybe microsoft will send a case of zunes and KINs
01:01 TR News; Gammath SPOT version 1.9 (beta) released on 4 February 2022, but the project needs to #deletegithub https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gammath_SPOT #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #fsf
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01:01 TR Bot; Gammath SPOT - Free Software Directory
01:01 *gene (~621eac21@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights
01:01 schestowitz-TR; hi, gene
01:02 gene; howdy
01:02 gene; i have no idea how i stumbled upon this site, but somehow i'm here
01:02 schestowitz-TR; good
01:02 TR News; #clowncomputing means #security breach. No journalist should use such systems. https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/04/news_corp_china_compromised/
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01:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/04/news_corp_china_compromised/
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01:02 TR Bot; News Corp journalists' accounts compromised, China suspected The Register
01:03 gene; technically, i know i'm on irc, but like it's via the website, so i'm still on the website as a whole; seems like a good mix of politics and tech; which is nice
01:03 schestowitz-TR; the daily links?
01:03 schestowitz-TR; i don't or cannot see the context
01:03 XRevan86; schestowitz: Something icky that can be transmitted from interaction with the opposite sex. Extended in the context to mean a different type of person.
01:03 gene; i've yet to find a space on the internet to argue for US to pass a bill similar to SHAKE/STIR regulation for telcos but for ISPs [or RIRs] with RPKI for BGP >.>
01:03 XRevan86; Imaginary decease.
01:04 schestowitz-TR; ah, yes, I remember that term
01:04 XRevan86; It's a very American term.
01:05 TR News; #Zenwalk #GNU #Linux 15.0-220204 is out. Good to see #distrowatch too emphasising GNU (Ladislav)
01:08 TR News; System76 refreshes Kudu Linux laptop with Ryzen 7 CPU and up to 64GB RAM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160960#comment-32742
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01:08 TR Bot; System76 Launches AMD-Powered Kudu Linux Laptop for Expert Multitaskers | Tux Machines
01:09 gene; so how is everyone?
01:10 TR News; Reminds me of the #penguin clickbait of late https://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/49106/20220129/new-study-reveals-octopuses-extraterrestrial-organisms-space.htm
01:10 TR Bot; New Study Reveals How Octopuses May Have Been Extraterrestrial Organisms From Space | Nature World News
01:10 schestowitz-TR; gene: for many it is night
01:10 schestowitz-TR; it is also 1am here
01:11 gene; ah, is this mostly a german/eurocentric server?
01:11 schestowitz-TR; noi
01:11 schestowitz-TR; no
01:11 schestowitz-TR; it is based in SF
01:11 gene; oh, it's like 5 PM on a friday in SF >.>
01:11 TR News; "Yet another update as things keep accelerating. Steam Deck Verified and Playable games just reached a total of 251 titles during our last refresh." #kde #archlinus #gnu #linux https://boilingsteam.com/steam-deck-verified-and-playable-games-cross-the-250-titles-mark/
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01:11 TR Bot; Steam Deck Verified and Playable Games Cross the 250 Titles Mark - Boiling Steam
01:12 schestowitz-TR; the site and team is widely distributed
01:13 gene; i'm trying to find the point, is it people just hating on closed sourced stuff?
01:14 schestowitz-TR; no
01:14 schestowitz-TR; we've just published 2 posts
01:14 schestowitz-TR; they are about EPO corruption
01:14 TR News; "After borking my #ChimeraOS install (by running sudo frzr-unlock to unlock the immutable file system, then sudo pacman -Syu to upgrade the packages. Pretty dumb of me to do that), I went on to try Arch." https://boilingsteam.com/gpd-win-3-the-tide-me-over-for-the-steam-deck/
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01:14 TR Bot; GPD Win 3: The Tide-Me-Over for the Steam Deck? - Boiling Steam
01:14 gene; EPO ?
01:15 schestowitz; .gemini://gemini.techrights.org/intro/
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01:15 gene; oh, patent office
01:15 gene; idk how to handle the gemini protocol
01:15 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/gemini/
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01:15 TR Bot; Techrights on Gemini | Techrights
01:15 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/04/28/joining-gemini-space/
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01:15 TR Bot; Joining Gemini Space and Reading Over Encrypted Connection Without Unnecessary Clutter | Techrights
01:16 chunky; tech rights are very important thank u for hosting this
01:17 schestowitz-TR; thank you
01:18 gene; i'm glad gopher made a comeback in the next generation of web
01:18 TR News; Wow. Some site still push this 2-WEEK-OLD "news" https://www.cpomagazine.com/cyber-security/all-linux-distributions-affected-by-12-year-old-pwnkit-local-privilege-escalation-bug-allowing-an-attacker-to-execute-commands-as-root/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/13/microsoft-connected-fud-pr/
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01:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cpomagazine.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cpomagazine.com/cyber-security/all-linux-distributions-affected-by-12-year-old-pwnkit-local-privilege-escalation-bug-allowing-an-attacker-to-execute-commands-as-root/
01:18 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.cpomagazine.com/cyber-security/all-linux-distributions-affected-by-12-year-old-pwnkit-local-privilege-escalation-bug-allowing-an-attacker-to-execute-commands-as-root/ )
01:18 TR Bot; 2022 Commences With Microsoft-Themed (and Microsoft-Connected) FUD Against GNU/Linux | Techrights
01:18 schestowitz-TR; gene: something was needed to replace what the web became
01:18 schestowitz-TR; I think gemini because the default fallback for now
01:19 gene; web is like 5 social media sites at this point for most users
01:19 gene; and hundreds of mobile apps
01:20 TR News; 3D Printed Radiation Shields Get Put To The Test | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/04/3d-printed-radiation-shields-get-put-to-the-test/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/05/#latest
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01:20 TR Bot; Printed Radiation Shields Get Put To The Test | Hackaday
01:20 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
01:20 schestowitz-TR; gene: seeme so
01:20 schestowitz-TR; but if it's "apps"
01:20 schestowitz-TR; then www is justa transport layer
01:20 gene; aws api endpoints
01:20 schestowitz-TR; and not even hypertext anymore
01:21 schestowitz-TR; gene: they have buzzwords for these
01:21 gene; lambdas?
01:22 TR News; #Apple , #Broadcom undo $1bn Wi-Fi #patent payout to #Caltech - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/04/apple_broadcom_caltech/
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01:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/04/apple_broadcom_caltech/
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01:22 TR Bot; Apple, Broadcom undo $1bn Wi-Fi patent payout to Caltech The Register
01:22 schestowitz-TR; gene: no
01:22 schestowitz-TR; that's the brand name
01:22 schestowitz-TR; or product name
01:22 schestowitz-TR; the acynym is sometimes faas and I saw "servless" a lot
01:22 schestowitz-TR; *serverless
01:22 schestowitz-TR; which is truly poppycock
01:23 gene; i mean, if yall don't have to pay for ops people anymore and just make your devs do ops, then what can possibly go wrong /s
01:23 schestowitz-TR; they make up new terminopoly
01:23 schestowitz-TR; to cushion or help the "SALES" team
01:23 gene; because an embedded system programmer totally understands subnetting and ACLs
01:24 gene; "amazon glacier" - we put yo stuff on tapes yo
01:24 schestowitz-TR; daemons became "microservices"
01:24 schestowitz-TR; "devops" is about overworking people
01:24 schestowitz-TR; getting them to do more jobsl, more time, same salary
01:24 schestowitz-TR; even on-call at night
01:24 gene; increased salary from ops perspective honestly
01:25 gene; at least here
01:25 schestowitz-TR; gene: wait, I thought bezos was flying rockets to Antarctica
01:25 schestowitz-TR; with your data
01:25 schestowitz-TR; like Microsoft with fake news about "arctic vault"
01:25 schestowitz-TR; to distract from ICEgate
01:25 schestowitz-TR; ICE?
01:25 schestowitz-TR; vault?
01:25 schestowitz-TR; arctic?
01:25 gene; uhh, that's gates putting stuff in anatarctica with github stuff iirc
01:26 schestowitz-TR; lots of maangers were quitting github back then
01:26 gene; amazon glacier is just a storage service for long term data storage
01:26 schestowitz-TR; also know aas drive
01:26 schestowitz-TR; if you own th e server, the data stays there
01:26 kingoffrance; "because an embedded system programmer totally understands subnetting and ACLs" im pretty sure thats the goal IOT
01:26 schestowitz-TR; no monthly fees
01:26 psydroid8; make sure everyone knows everything and pay them the salary for a junior dev
01:27 *kingoffrance reads a scroll of cloud
01:27 gene; kingoffrance - that explains why every iot is hacked after a couple months
01:27 kingoffrance; :)
01:27 schestowitz-TR; hacked AND cracked
01:29 TR News; "You may have noticed additional Stage 3 links marked with "desktop profile" on the #Gentoo downloads page recently. So what's this about?" #gnu #linux https://dilfridge.blogspot.com/2022/02/gentoo-desktop-stage-3-downloads.html
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01:29 TR Bot; the dilfridge blog: Gentoo "desktop profile" Stage 3 downloads
01:29 psydroid8; have your marketing drones create and software using "no code" methodologies and eliminate all developers
01:30 gene; pretty sure gpt-3 is working on that
01:30 psydroid8; -and
01:30 gene; they'll come close to a partial solution in 20 years or so
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01:31 kingoffrance; are we allowed to suggest graphics? i nominate skeleton army for cloud reviving mainframe https://yewtu.be/watch?v=pF_Fi7x93PY
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01:31 TR Bot; Jason and the Argonauts skeleton fight - Invidious
01:32 psydroid8; I saw some IDE by Sun 20 years ago that did something like that
01:32 schestowitz-TR; We'll implement non-management first ;-)
01:32 gene; github does stuff now weirdly too
01:32 schestowitz-TR; and then turn them into our butlers; -)
01:32 gene; hot take; servers are already our butlers
01:32 schestowitz-TR; oh
01:33 schestowitz-TR; that's what you call managers? ^_^
01:33 gene; they're just waiting for us to give them commands and do our tasks and whatnot; they just need very specific instructions
01:33 gene; also, gemini.techrights.org is giving me a TLS error? 0.o
01:33 schestowitz-TR; what client?
01:34 schestowitz-TR; the web one? know issue
01:34 gene; geminaut
01:34 schestowitz-TR; I talk to the developer of it this week
01:34 gene; is the server not running TLS?
01:34 schestowitz-TR; yes
01:34 schestowitz-TR; it runs OK
01:34 schestowitz-TR; and should work
01:34 schestowitz-TR; maybe version numbers
01:35 gene; ima just install amfora
01:35 schestowitz-TR; ok, good
01:35 schestowitz-TR; we are working on a web gateway for it
01:35 schestowitz-TR; in perl likely
01:38 gene; so, just saying, the preamble says yall down for enslaving AI
01:38 gene; like "we own the computers straight up"
01:39 schestowitz-TR; or
01:39 schestowitz-TR; the computers should be opermissive
01:39 TR News; #Debian on an x86_64 tablet Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161115 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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01:39 TR Bot; Debian on an x86_64 tablet | Tux Machines
01:39 gene; > Towards that end, the people using their computers should be in charge of computers and control what the computers do
01:39 schestowitz-TR; there is a lot of locking down going on
01:39 schestowitz-TR; with patents
01:39 schestowitz-TR; drm fake "trust"
01:40 schestowitz-TR; "app stores"
01:40 gene; blackboxes as "security" for bootloaders
01:40 schestowitz-TR; as if we are all turned into consumers
01:40 gene; i sometimes wish to live in a forest or a homestead
01:40 schestowitz-TR; after decades of people owning computers and exercising some control over them
01:40 TR News; #GeckoLinux Pantheon | Review from an #openSUSE User Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161116 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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01:40 TR Bot; GeckoLinux Pantheon | Review from an openSUSE User | Tux Machines
01:41 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161117 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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01:41 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
01:41 gene; > a focus has been on eliminating software patents.
01:41 gene; tbh, if we fixed patents and intellectual property laws as a whole, we'd probably be better off? what if source code was opened 7 years after it was sold?
01:42 gene; so, microsoft would legally have to release code from 2015 because intellectual property reform for private source code
01:42 TR News; #Games: Dying Light 2 Stay Human, #SteamDeck , and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161118 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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01:42 TR Bot; Games: Dying Light 2 Stay Human, Steam Deck, and More | Tux Machines
01:42 gene; and i picked 7 years as an arbitary time period of exclusive ownership after general sale
01:42 schestowitz-TR; but wait
01:42 schestowitz-TR; you mix two things here
01:43 schestowitz-TR; patents and copyrights
01:43 gene; intellectual property is intellectual property
01:43 schestowitz-TR; no
01:43 schestowitz-TR; it's a propaganda term
01:43 schestowitz-TR; and if you probe it
01:43 schestowitz-TR; you realise it is a misnomer, too
01:43 gene; what? words?
01:44 psydroid8; https://oxide.computer/
01:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: oxide.computer | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://oxide.computer/
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01:44 TR Bot; Oxide
01:44 psydroid8; sounds like Sun Microsystems 2.0
01:44 TR News; Cellular IoT gateways come in industrial, security, and transport flavors https://linuxgizmos.com/cellular-iot-gateways-come-in-industrial-security-and-transport-flavors/ #LinuxGizmos #Hardware #Devices #GNU #Linux
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01:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/cellular-iot-gateways-come-in-industrial-security-and-transport-flavors/
01:44 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/cellular-iot-gateways-come-in-industrial-security-and-transport-flavors/ )
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01:45 schestowitz-TR; gene: that's like "brexit means brexit"
01:45 schestowitz-TR; those things are not property
01:45 schestowitz-TR; not legally
01:45 schestowitz-TR; not technically
01:45 schestowitz-TR; courts saidf the same
01:45 schestowitz-TR; so have scholars
01:45 gene; erm; i'm waiting for "brunion: sponsored by irn-bru" honestly..
01:46 TR News; Why Rubber is Such a Problem for Retro Computing Enthusiasts https://tedium.co/2022/02/04/rubber-decay-retro-computers-history/ #tedium | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/05/#latest
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01:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: tedium.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/02/04/rubber-decay-retro-computers-history/
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01:46 TR Bot; Why Rubber is Such a Problem for Retro Computing Enthusiasts
01:47 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
01:49 TR News; The #EPO is slowly gearing up to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the signing of the #EPC in October 1973 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/whitewash-epo-50/ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/04/whitewash-epo-50/
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01:49 TR Bot; [Meme] EPC 50th Anniversary Whitewash in Preparation | Techrights
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01:51 TR News; Benot Battistellis #EPO #corruption (persisting under the current administration of his friend, #AntnioCampinos ) is under investigation again; we consider how an institution meant to be run by public servants became self-serving money machine Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/epo-self-service/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/04/epo-self-service/
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01:51 TR Bot; The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXXXI: Public Service or Self-Service? | Techrights
01:53 gene; so, i mean, no one likes patent trolls, and cloudflare does some to shield people now...
01:54 gene; oh wait, they do not; they rallied folks to fight on their behalf but didn't use those resources to spawn efforts to defend others with similar cases
01:55 schestowitz-TR; right
01:55 schestowitz-TR; we covered this ages ago
01:55 schestowitz-TR; 2017 iirc
01:55 TR News; xkcd: Sea Chase https://xkcd.com/2577/ #xkcd
01:55 TR Bot; Sea Chase
01:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2577/
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01:55 TR News; #QubesOS 4.1.0 has been released! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161119 #JoannaRutkowska has left. I wonder why...
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01:55 TR Bot; Qubes OS 4.1.0 has been released! | Tux Machines
01:56 gene; i suppose i could browse the archives
01:56 gene; yall have them which is cool, most communities don't keep archives
01:56 TR News; "combat hair discrimination in our community." https://www.cleveland19.com/2022/02/05/next-400-northeast-ohio-cosmetologist-awarded-grant-combat-hair-discrimination/
01:56 TR Bot; The Next 400: Northeast Ohio cosmetologist awarded grant to combat hair discrimination
01:57 schestowitz-TR; gene: you can go to:
01:57 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/site-archives/
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01:57 TR Bot; Site Archives (Download) | Techrights
01:58 gene; https://i.imgur.com/G5S7avg.png
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01:58 Alternative link; Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/G5S7avg.png
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01:58 schestowitz-TR; ah, the irc log
01:58 schestowitz-TR; we have them going back to 2008
01:58 kingoffrance; agree with schestowitz , its always been such: http://dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=bouvier&Query=possession POSSESSION, property Possession applies properly only to corporeal things
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01:58 TR Bot; possession
01:59 schestowitz-TR; kingoffrance: you stole my idea!
01:59 schestowitz-TR; pirate!
01:59 kingoffrance; non-corporeal things is "quasi-property" "quasi-possession"
01:59 schestowitz-TR; a metaphor at best
01:59 kingoffrance; ^^^
01:59 gene; intellectual property is a form of property
02:00 schestowitz-TR; no, it is fiction
02:00 schestowitz-TR; made up by politicians and lawyer-politicians
02:00 schestowitz-TR; and law firms
02:00 schestowitz-TR; corporate lwyers
02:00 kingoffrance; well, define a "bit"
02:00 schestowitz-TR; promotion fictions and misnomers
02:00 kingoffrance; math does not corporeally exist
02:00 kingoffrance; its entire usefulness is because it can be applied to a myraid of things
02:00 kingoffrance; *myriad
02:01 kingoffrance; i have 3. 3 what?
02:01 kingoffrance; math is purposely incorporeal
02:01 schestowitz-TR; discoveries versus inventions
02:01 gene; a lot of things in life are "fiction" - things like "money"
02:01 kingoffrance; ^^^
02:01 schestowitz-TR; true
02:01 schestowitz-TR; man-made concept
02:01 kingoffrance; yes, that is a giant can of worms for same reason :)
02:01 schestowitz-TR; many people now make up new 'money'
02:01 kingoffrance; and it actually comes up
02:01 kingoffrance; when you have to determine laws for where something is located
02:02 kingoffrance; digits in my account -- in my possesion, or in some computer somewhere?
02:02 kingoffrance; i have a credit card in my hand, do i possess those digits?
02:02 kingoffrance; or is it in their computer?
02:02 schestowitz-TR; money is data
02:02 kingoffrance; i merely have a claim on them i believe
02:02 gene; oh, figuring out our location in the universe is actually very complex, measuring a specific location in a specific spacetime is hard
02:02 schestowitz-TR; and it's based on an honour system
02:03 schestowitz-TR; if chine bans 'cypto' fakecoins, then those become worthless there
02:03 gene; bans are only as effective as the enforcement
02:03 schestowitz-TR; china enforces harshly
02:04 gene; not every rule afaik
02:04 TR News; "I've said for ages that I wanted to play SuperTux the platformer not #SuperTux Kart the racer and that's finally happening today, I have no idea how long the game is but I know it's been in development for year." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OLewR5KLwJo
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02:04 TR Bot; ( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OLewR5KLwJo )
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02:04 schestowitz-TR; nor every person
02:05 gene; of course, america is #1 in prisoner population, so chances of being locked up for a minor infraction is lower in china than here
02:05 TR News; Dirk Eddelbuettel: corels 0.0.4 on CRAN: M1 Update http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/02/04#corels_0.0.4 #cran #Rcpp
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02:05 TR Bot; Thinking inside the box
02:05 schestowitz-TR; gene: but that's because of other factor
02:06 schestowitz-TR; less doccile populatiomn
02:06 schestowitz-TR; more laws
02:06 schestowitz-TR; for-profit prisons
02:06 schestowitz-TR; that lock you up for longer and don't lead to "correction"
02:06 gene; i'm totally for prison abolition in its current form
02:07 schestowitz-TR; you would destroy a lot of jobs !!
02:07 gene; i think norway's system is a pretty decent start, but i don't see why we can't acheive 90% recitivism rates
02:07 gene; oh, their argument would be "how do you pay for that?"
02:07 schestowitz-TR; norway is very different
02:07 schestowitz-TR; high neducation rates, smaller population/density, more wealth
02:07 schestowitz-TR; also few kids
02:07 gene; even though, ironically, paying $150k/yr for 1-2 years rather than paying $50k / yr for 10 years, then another $50k/yr for 5-8 years every [then 3 years], then 5-8 years after that...
02:08 gene; that math doesn't add up for most people... penny wise, pound foolish
02:09 gene; lower recitivism rates means much higher overall price per prisoner... if you raise recitivism rates that'd be lower long term cost, but higher short term cost...
02:09 TR News; " #pupX is a GUI to set various properties of the X server. It is to be found in the "Desktop" menu category. One popular use is to set mouse acceleration; however, that is broken." https://bkhome.org/news/202202/pupx-fixed.html
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02:09 TR Bot; pupX fixed
02:09 gene; [higher overall price per year, but not total]
02:12 gene; america is technically richer than norway tbf
02:12 DaemonFC; The only thing kids do for people is make them even poorer.
02:13 DaemonFC; And then they have no savings and no investments.
02:13 DaemonFC; Then they bitch when programs that pay them money from the government end because "How am I supposed to put brakes on mah Honda now!?".
02:13 gene; kids make nestle and tesla rich tho working in plantations and mines respectfully
02:13 DaemonFC; Get a job and have all the brakes on all the Hondas you want.
02:14 gene; jobs are fake
02:18 gene; brakes are also fake, people should have regenerative braking as a default
02:18 gene; [and reserve actual brakes for emergency usage]
02:21 kingoffrance; https://sourceforge.net/p/pdos/gitcode/ci/master/tree/pdpgoal.txt i saw this the other day.. which does not affect code at all -- one can use or contribute public domain stuff without any obligation to agree with author(s) philosophy
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02:21 Alternative link; Cloudflare: sourceforge.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://sourceforge.net/p/pdos/gitcode/ci/master/tree/pdpgoal.txt
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02:21 TR Bot; PDOS / Git Code / [ede690] /pdpgoal.txt
02:21 kingoffrance; Note that when a company makes a sovereign decision to not release source code for their product, that is their innate right
02:22 kingoffrance; that didnt seem to phase people, but that is same sort of thing
02:22 kingoffrance; assuming he meant "corporation" 1) they have no rights, merely a charter of privileges 2) theoretically only exist for the public good 3) are not sovereign
02:23 kingoffrance; innate: present at birth
02:23 kingoffrance; again, they are incorporeal
02:23 kingoffrance; incorporate: give a body to incorporate: immaterial
02:23 kingoffrance; corporate: having a body/corpse/material
02:24 kingoffrance; they are only "birthed" by joining people as their "body" i.e. representatives
02:24 gene; property rights are defined by the state which are arbitary definitions as a whole...
02:25 kingoffrance; guy is in australia i believe, so maybe that's how australia works, i dont know
02:25 kingoffrance; america "declaration of independence" is 180: men create gov., etc.
02:26 kingoffrance; well, other people we agreed it was meant "limited sovereignty within their sphere" i.e. internal company decision
02:26 kingoffrance; i.e. without "outside" influence
02:26 gene; the US constitution does mention intellectual property stuff actually, but says "reasonable time" - to me, reasonable is 7 years
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02:28 gene; "The Congress shall have Power to promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;"
02:28 gene; erm, limited time seems like 7 years*
02:30 gene; in reality, thanks to disney and whatnot, its like the lifetime of the creator + a bunch of time
02:30 gene; yall know this already how broken the system is
02:30 gene; i don't need to preach to the choir?
02:37 kingoffrance; yeah :) above public domain philosophy i dont think is 100% wrong, but i would be happier with "quasi-right" "quasi-sovereign" etc. and scratch the "innate" because there is only "quasi-birth". its always a simulated "pretend this is a natural, corporeal person"
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-040222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-040222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-040222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-040222.txt
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02:54 DaemonFC; Northwestern University libtards are trying to pin "police violence" on preterm births and strokes and heart attacks in black women.
02:54 DaemonFC; Christ.....everyone knows not to go near the police if you can avoid it.
02:55 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/04/rudra_sarsawat_ubuntu_projects/
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02:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/04/rudra_sarsawat_ubuntu_projects/
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02:55 TR Bot; 12-year-old Rudra Saraswat's Ubuntu projects The Register
02:55 DaemonFC; They're always in a shitty mood, and look what goes on in Chicago all day, and that's why.
02:55 DaemonFC; They get crackheads on the red line dousing themselves with gasoline and setting themselves on fire and that's before breakfast.
02:56 DaemonFC; So by the time they get to pulling you over for something, they're already pissed about something else.
02:56 DaemonFC; It's like having to go in front of the judge after Speed Thermometer Guy.
03:02 gene; https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/rzwawc/most_white_americans_feel_safe_in_interacting/
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03:02 TR Bot; Most White Americans feel safe in interacting with police whereas most Black Americans feared that police would kill them and hurt their family. "Approximately half of Black respondents preferred to be robbed or burglarized than to have unprovoked contact with officers." : science
03:15 DaemonFC; I don't feel safe around the police.
03:15 DaemonFC; Anyone who does is either lying or stupid.
03:15 DaemonFC; The police have done more to fuck up my life than black criminals.
03:16 DaemonFC; I lost 100 times as much money to the police and have a permanent blacklisting now that I'll have to petition the court to remove.
03:16 DaemonFC; And to black criminals, I had a gun pointed at me for a minute and lost a crummy cell phone with a resell value of $100.
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03:26 AdmFubar; https://lincolnproject.us/mark-will-be-fine/
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03:26 TR Bot; The Lincoln Project: Mark Will Be Fine
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03:29 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
03:38 AdmFubar; :)) https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/feb/04/meta-rivalry-apple-inflamed-facebook-parent-company-share-price-plummets
03:38 TR Bot; Meta rivalry with Apple inflamed as Facebook parent company share price plummets | Technology | The Guardian
03:46 AdmFubar; https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/04/amazon-chews-through-the-average-worker-in-eight-months-they-need-a-union
03:46 TR Bot; Amazon chews through the average worker in eight months. They need a union | Steven Greenhouse | The Guardian
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04:06 AdmFubar; https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/01/29/2228203&from=rss
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04:06 TR Bot; Microsoft: Windows Needs at Least 8 Hours Online to Update Reliably - SoylentNews
04:07 AdmFubar; bet it needs less time to be compromised
04:18 AdmFubar; https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220122/19573348336/legislators-looking-to-ban-geofence-reverse-warrants-state-new-york.shtml
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04:18 TR Bot; Looking To Ban Geofence/Reverse Warrants In The State Of New York | Techdirt
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05:02 DaemonFC; https://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-reenables-avx512-support-on-alder-lake-cpus
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05:02 TR Bot; MSI Re-Enables AVX-512 Support on Alder Lake CPUs | Tom's Hardware
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05:44 immibis; DaemonFC: and yet you are right-wing?
05:44 DaemonFC; I wouldn't say that.
05:44 DaemonFC; The police are dangerous to people who acted in self-defense to stop a crime in progress against themselves.
05:45 DaemonFC; I wish more conservatives acknowledged this.
05:45 lukaso666; hi, I'm new here... I'm Linux user since 22 years (Debian lover), FOSS maniac, an anarchist... my interests: linux and BSD, privacy, XMPP, IRC, Tox, tilig WMs, hard science fiction & cyberpunk, philosophy, Siberia, languges (russian, czech, Esperanto - my favs!)
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05:46 DaemonFC; The people who vote in Illinois are disarming law abiding citizens and this "duty to flee" nonsense puts people in danger because they defended themselves and now it's up to a court to decide if three hoodrats with a gun were something they should have tried to run away from.
05:46 DaemonFC; Duty to flee makes the police dangerous to people who act in self-defense against people who wouldn't be dead if they had their hands in their own pockets or had gone and read a book instead of trying to carjack them.
05:47 DaemonFC; Every state where the voting public has the slightest bit of sanity has a Stand Your Ground law.
05:48 DaemonFC; If none of the Republican candidates are acceptable in this year's election, I'll vote for the Libertarian candidate for Illinois governor. And if Pritzker loses because he chased people like me off, then that's his fault.
05:49 DaemonFC; He's up to election year stunts like 1 year tax moratoriums on property, groceries, and gas, but that's a proposal and it'll be back in a year and as bad as ever.
05:49 DaemonFC; It's designed to make people less pissed until the election is finished.
05:50 DaemonFC; Until this state reforms spending and lowers the tax burden, these credit ratings upgrades will be unjustifiable. And the reason we're getting upgrades on our debt outlook is because these are the same ratings firms that said you couldn't lose if you bought mortgage-backed securities in 2007.
05:51 DaemonFC; The only unit of government in America I will still buy bonds from is the federal government.
05:51 DaemonFC; And that's only because it has the ability to "make it so" because it can say there's enough money to pay you back with the interest it agreed to.
05:52 DaemonFC; Then there is. And it's bullshit, but you play the game.
05:52 DaemonFC; Because you get back the interest and principle and at best, it all buys what the principle alone did years ago when you loaned it the money.
05:53 DaemonFC; But the stock market is in the toilet and cryptocurrency is just flat out the stuff of idiots.
05:53 DaemonFC; For so many reasons.
05:54 DaemonFC; You know, you put money in crypto and you can gain or lose a lot of money. It depends on when you time it, and when you do, it's not like selling bonds back to the government. It results in very complex capital gains calculations that you can get wrong and have the IRS breathing down your neck.
05:54 DaemonFC; Then you have to hire accountants to deal with them, and it's just frankly not worth dealing with the tax code implications of messing around with thousands of crypto transactions.
05:55 DaemonFC; If you're like most Americans and you just want a vehicle for savings that isn't going to tank and wipe you out, and want to sit out this stock market malaise, then Savings Bonds are pretty good right now.
05:55 DaemonFC; And past a certain amount of savings, you really don't want it in a bank account.
05:56 DaemonFC; I think past $15,000-20,000 you don't want that in a bank account.
05:56 AdmFubar; some type of wing...;)
05:56 DaemonFC; You need to have the liquidity, but then you also need to look at not getting murdered by inflation on the rest.
05:57 DaemonFC; So it's reasonable to have some savings bonds, even if it's just buying them here and there to make sure your savings doesn't grow too much in a bank account where it doesn't earn much.
05:57 kingoffrance; welcome lukaso666
05:57 lukaso666; kingoffrance, hi!
05:57 *kingoffrance glares at all the people who didnt say hi
05:57 DaemonFC; You can say "It's unlikely that in the next year, my expenses will exceed my savings if I have X amount in the bank. The rest can be in bonds."
05:58 AdmFubar; has sunglasses on and cannot see glare...
05:58 AdmFubar; :P
05:58 DaemonFC; And the first round of bonds I bought last year can be redeemed now if I need to, so I can buy a second round of bonds this year.
05:58 DaemonFC; And then I can stairstep them, so each year I have less that I can't get access to in a pinch vs. ones that are redeemable.
05:59 DaemonFC; Year 1, everything is off limits.
05:59 DaemonFC; Year 2, you can redeem half if you need to. Year 3, you can redeem 2/3rds if you had to. And so on.
06:18 DaemonFC; There's an app called Jerry being advertised on Facebook.
06:18 DaemonFC; It finds super sketchy car insurance companies and takes commissions for signing people up for cheap insurance policies.
06:18 DaemonFC; Then what usually happens is they hit someone and the company actually doesn't pay up and they get sued.
06:20 DaemonFC; My favorite is how about 30% of the people in Illinois have no insurance at all, no license, and drive anyway.
06:20 DaemonFC; "Oh I don't need to pay $30 a month for insurance!" screech! CRUNCH!
06:21 DaemonFC; Then they're being hauled off to jail, fined, you name it.
06:22 DaemonFC; The first offense is a fine of $2,500 and you lose your license for three months. Then if you decide to drive anyway during that three months and get pulled over, you go to jail or end up on probation (and fined $5,000) because it's a Class A Misdemeanor.
06:23 DaemonFC; I couldn't imagine losing my license during COVID even if it was only for 90 days.
06:23 DaemonFC; You have to make appointments to go to the DMV now and I don't even want to know what that's all about.
06:24 DaemonFC; This whole thing has everyone under some kind of a spell.
06:24 DaemonFC; It's very dangerous, unacceptably dangerous, to go to the DMV, but not a restaurant, not the movies, not Walmart.
06:25 DaemonFC; hi, I'm new here... I'm Linux user since 22 years (Debian lover), FOSS maniac, an anarchist... my interests: linux and BSD, privacy, XMPP, IRC, Tox, tilig WMs, hard science fiction & cyberpunk, philosophy, Siberia, languges (russian, czech, Esperanto - my favs!)
06:25 DaemonFC; I think the last window manager I used that primarily operated by tiling was Program Manager.
06:26 DaemonFC; Early versions of Windows had one that didn't do stacking.
06:27 DaemonFC; They didn't do tiling well, but broadly speaking that's what they did. :/
06:30 DaemonFC; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacking_window_manager#/media/File:KDE_frozen.png
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06:30 TR Bot; Stacking window manager - Wikipedia
06:30 DaemonFC; LOL
06:30 DaemonFC; Yes, and Windows XP had this problem as well.
06:30 DaemonFC; Oddly, I don't recall this happening on Windows 98.
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07:45 immibis; what does DaemonFC think about how left-wing vs right-wing protests are treated by police
07:47 schestowitz; hi, lukaso666
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07:52 TR News; "they aren't big fans of documenting the code at MICROS~1 (just like Dehomag)" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-040222.html#tFeb%2004%2014:30:08 #ibm #microsoft
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07:52 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, February 04, 2022
07:52 TR News; Beyond Mankind: The Awakening Old School Action RPG Is Out Now on Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161120 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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07:52 TR Bot; Beyond Mankind: The Awakening Old School Action RPG Is Out Now on Linux | Tux Machines
07:52 immibis; how is techrights IPFS set up?
07:52 TR News; #Meet Una, a Full-Featured MPR (AUR Fork) Helper for Debian and Ubuntu-Based Distros Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161121 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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07:52 TR Bot; Meet Una, a Full-Featured MPR (AUR Fork) Helper for Debian and Ubuntu-Based Distros | Tux Machines
07:53 TR News; #IRC Proceedings: Friday, February 04, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/05/irc-log-040222/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/05/irc-log-040222/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/02/05/irc-log-040222/
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07:53 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Friday, February 04, 2022 | Techrights
07:54 schestowitz-TR; immibis: you can see the source code in git
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07:59 TR News; Over the next couple of weeks #techrights will cover the #corruption of the #epo on a daily basis
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08:04 immibis; schestowitz-TR: bug report, opening http://techrights.org/git/ attempts to download a file called Proxy.sh from gemini.susa.net. Most likely it is intended to be executed on the server?
08:04 TR Bot; Techrights Git (Self-Hosted) | Techrights
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08:47 schestowitz-TR; immibis: use a gemini client
08:47 schestowitz-TR; that site stopped working
08:47 schestowitz-TR; due to tls issues at their end
08:48 schestowitz-TR; when we upgraded to debain 11
08:48 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.01 k/sec., IPFS upstream 51.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 258.26
08:56 TR News; This week in KDE: Discover redesign has begun Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161122 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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08:56 TR Bot; This week in KDE: Discover redesign has begun | Tux Machines
08:56 TR News; Cellular IoT gateways come in industrial, security, and transport flavors Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161123 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161123
08:56 TR Bot; Cellular IoT gateways come in industrial, security, and transport flavors | Tux Machines
08:57 TR News; Best #FreeSW Alternatives to SAS/GRAPH Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161124 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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08:57 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to SAS/GRAPH | Tux Machines
08:58 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161125 #Linux #TuxMachines
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08:58 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
09:04 TR News; NEWS #ComputerWorld #Programming Beginner's guide to R: Syntax quirks you'll want to know https://www.computerworld.com/article/2497319/business-intelligence-beginner-s-guide-to-r-syntax-quirks-you-ll-want-to-know.html
09:04 TR Bot; guide to R: Syntax quirks you'll want to know | Computerworld
09:05 TR News; NEWS #NewYorkTimes #ProprietarySoftware A Change by #Apple Is Tormenting #Internet Companies, Especially Meta https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/03/technology/apple-privacy-changes-meta.html
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09:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/03/technology/apple-privacy-changes-meta.html
09:05 TR Bot; Meta Says Apples Privacy Changes Could Cost the Company $10 Billion - The New York Times
09:09 TR News; NEWS #NBC #Privacy #Surveillance #Facebook is staring down a 'perfect storm' of challenges that will define its future https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/facebook-stalling-growth-says-social-media-users-freedom-choice-rcna14803
09:09 TR Bot; Facebook is staring down a 'perfect storm' of challenges
09:09 TR News; NEWS #Axios #Privacy #Surveillance #Facebook users drop, while metaverse runs up a tab https://www.axios.com/facebook-users-drop-metaverse-costs-earnings-4c6dfe38-9e59-4c74-9fd9-34bb5400dae7.html "the Facebook social network is now a legacy product for Meta"
09:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: axios.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.axios.com/facebook-users-drop-metaverse-costs-earnings-4c6dfe38-9e59-4c74-9fd9-34bb5400dae7.html
09:09 TR Bot; users drop, while metaverse runs up a tab - Axios
09:10 TR News; NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Privacy #Surveillance 6 Reasons Meta Is in Trouble https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/03/technology/facebook-meta-challenges.html "stock plummeted 26 percent and its market value plunged by more than $230 billion." < ---- FAKE ECONOMY!! BUBBLE!
=> ↺ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/03/technology/facebook-meta-challenges.html
09:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/03/technology/facebook-meta-challenges.html
09:10 TR Bot; 6 Reasons Meta Is in Trouble - The New York Times
09:11 immibis; oh for some reason I assumed TR was properly mirrored on IPFS rather than just some chat logs
09:13 schestowitz-TR; no, the bulletins are there
09:13 schestowitz-TR; tbe bulletins are all daily posts, inc. Daily Links
09:17 TR News; NEWS #TimesHigherEducation #Transparency Library sorry as student #Twitter saga turns out to be tall tale https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/library-sorry-student-twitter-saga-turns-out-be-tall-tale
09:17 TR Bot; Library sorry as student Twitter saga turns out to be tall tale | Times Higher Education (THE)
09:17 TR News; NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Energy Why Is #MattDamon Shilling for [Cryptocurrency]? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/02/magazine/matt-damon-crypto.html
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09:17 TR Bot; Why Is Matt Damon Shilling for Crypto? - The New York Times
09:17 TR News; NEWS #NPR #Wildlife A butterfly conservatory is shutting down due to right-wing harassment https://text.npr.org/1077692533
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09:17 Alternative link; Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1077692533
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09:17 TR Bot; A butterfly conservatory is shutting down due to right-wing harassment
09:20 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #Politics The cost of ripping and replacing Chinese cellular equipment has ballooned by billions https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/4/22918611/rip-and-replace-hauwei-zte-fcc-cell-network-securty
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09:20 TR Bot; The cost of ripping and replacing Chinese cellular equipment has ballooned by billions - The Verge
09:20 TR News; NEWS #IndiaTimes Empty chair for Twitter, which skips #EU #hatespeech meeting, citing #COVID19 https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/social-media/empty-chair-for-twitter-which-skips-eu-hate-speech-meeting-citing-covid/89359596
09:20 TR Bot; twitter: Empty chair for Twitter, which skips EU hate speech meeting, citing COVID, CIO News, ET CIO
09:20 TR News; $332
09:21 TR News; NEWS #ITWire #Politics #Facebook faked its market value, as it was just a bubble https://itwire.com/listed-tech/facebook-parent-meta-loses-$332-billion-in-one-day.html same is true for #microsoft and #apple ... they're just lying to buy time
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09:21 Alternative link; Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/listed-tech/facebook-parent-meta-loses-$332-billion-in-one-day.html
09:21 TR Bot; - Facebook parent Meta loses $332 billion in one day
09:23 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #Disinformation #Misinformation Episodes of Joe Rogans show are disappearing from #Spotify https://www.theverge.com/22918697/joe-rogan-experience-podcast-episodes-disappear-controversy
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09:23 TR Bot; Episodes of Joe Rogans show are disappearing from Spotify - The Verge
09:24 TR News; NEWS #RTL #Disinformation #Misinformation #Spotify boss defends #JoeRogan deal as stock plunges https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1857593.html
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09:24 TR Bot; RTL Today - Daniel Ek: Spotify boss defends Joe Rogan deal as stock plunges
09:24 TR News; NEWS #Variety #Disinformation #Misinformation About 19% of #Spotify Users Say Theyve Canceled or Plan to Cancel Over #JoeRogan Controversy, Poll Finds. But Will That Exodus Really Happen? https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/spotify-canceled-delete-joe-rogan-controversy-1235172529/
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09:24 Alternative link; Cloudflare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/spotify-canceled-delete-joe-rogan-controversy-1235172529/
09:24 TR Bot; 19% of Spotify Users Cancel Over Joe Rogan or Plan to - Variety
09:24 TR News; NEWS #RollingStone #Disinformation #Misinformation Why Did These #JoeRogan Experience Episodes Get Yanked From #Spotify ? https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/spotify-removes-joe-rogan-experience-podcast-episodes-1295727/
09:24 Alternative link; Cloudflare: rollingstone.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/spotify-removes-joe-rogan-experience-podcast-episodes-1295727/
09:24 TR Bot; Why Did These 'Joe Rogan Experience' Episodes Get Yanked From Spotify? - Rolling Stone
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09:33 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights U.S. Seeks 5-Year Prison Sentence for #Nintendo 'Hacker' #GaryBowser https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-seeks-5-year-prison-sentence-for-nintendo-hacker-gary-bowser-220204/
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09:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-seeks-5-year-prison-sentence-for-nintendo-hacker-gary-bowser-220204/
09:33 TR Bot; Seeks 5-Year Prison Sentence for Nintendo 'Hacker' Gary Bowser * TorrentFreak
09:33 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights European Football Leagues Slam "Notice-and-Stay-Up" Provision in #DSA https://torrentfreak.com/european-football-leagues-slam-notice-and-stay-up-provision-in-dsa-220204/
09:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/european-football-leagues-slam-notice-and-stay-up-provision-in-dsa-220204/
09:33 TR Bot; Football Leagues Slam "Notice-and-Stay-Up" Provision in DSA * TorrentFreak
09:35 TR News; #adblock https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/is-adblock-piracy-is-adblock-illegal:5
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09:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/is-adblock-piracy-is-adblock-illegal:5
09:35 TR Bot; Is Adblock Piracy? Is Adblock Illegal?
09:38 TR News; NEWS #Variety #Censorship TikTok, Boom. Review: A Documentary Looks at How #TikTok Is Changing the World https://variety.com/2022/film/reviews/tiktok-boom-review-sundance-film-festival-1235172380/
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09:38 Alternative link; Cloudflare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/film/reviews/tiktok-boom-review-sundance-film-festival-1235172380/
09:38 TR Bot; Boom.' Review: A Look at How TikTok Is Changing the World - Variety
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09:44 TR News; NEWS #EFF #FCC Senate Commerce Committee is Letting Big Telecom Hamstring the FCC https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/02/senate-commerce-committee-letting-industry-hamstring-fcc
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09:44 TR Bot; Senate Commerce Committee is Letting Big Telecom Hamstring the FCC | Electronic Frontier Foundation
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09:49 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 14.16 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 258.30
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09:58 TR News; NEWS #EFF #Monopoly @EFF to Appeals: Apples Monopoly Doesnt Make Users Safer https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/02/eff-appeals-apples-monopoly-doesnt-make-users-safer
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09:58 TR Bot; EFF to Appeals: Apples Monopoly Doesnt Make Users Safer | Electronic Frontier Foundation
09:59 GNUmoon2; "U.S. Seeks 5-Year Prison Sentence for Nintendo 'Hacker' Gary Bowser * TorrentFreak" .... whilst war-criminals get Nobel "Peace" prizes and others get prez pardons ...
09:59 TR News; NEWS #meduza #ru #russia GulagTube blocks channels belonging to the #Donetsk and #Luhansk peoples republics https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/02/04/youtube-blocks-channels-belonging-to-the-donetsk-and-luhansk-people-s-republics political meddling by Gulag
09:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/02/04/youtube-blocks-channels-belonging-to-the-donetsk-and-luhansk-people-s-republics
09:59 TR Bot; NO TITLE
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10:10 TR News; NEWS #CommonDreams #patent #patents #monopolies 'Major Breakthrough': South African Scientists Replicate #Moderna Vaccine https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/04/major-breakthrough-south-african-scientists-replicate-moderna-vaccine
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10:10 TR Bot; 'Major Breakthrough': South African Scientists Replicate Moderna Vaccine
10:11 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Nintendo Hates You: More #DMCA Takedowns Of #gulagTube Videos Of Game Music Despite No Legit Alternative https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220201/09563748398/nintendo-hates-you-more-dmca-takedowns-youtube-videos-game-music-despite-no-legit-alternative.shtml
10:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220201/09563748398/nintendo-hates-you-more-dmca-takedowns-youtube-videos-game-music-despite-no-legit-alternative.shtml
10:11 TR Bot; Hates You: More DMCA Takedowns Of YouTube Videos Of Game Music Despite No Legit Alternative | Techdirt
10:12 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #police Small #Alabama Town's Overzealous Traffic Cops Also Monitored #Internet Traffic To Threaten Critics Of The Corrupt PD https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220129/17005048379/small-alabama-towns-overzealous-traffic-cops-also-monitored-internet-traffic-to-threaten-critics-corrupt-pd.shtml
10:12 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220129/17005048379/small-alabama-towns-overzealous-traffic-cops-also-monitored-internet-traffic-to-threaten-critics-corrupt-pd.shtml
10:12 TR Bot; Alabama Town's Overzealous Traffic Cops Also Monitored Internet Traffic To Threaten Critics Of The Corrupt PD | Techdirt
10:21 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Censorship How The #EARNIT Act Is Significantly More Dangerous Than #FOSTA https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220203/18143448411/how-earn-it-act-is-significantly-more-dangerous-than-fosta.shtml
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10:21 TR Bot; The EARN IT Act Is Significantly More Dangerous Than FOSTA | Techdirt
10:22 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #GilvaSunner #gulagTube Channel Shuts Down Due To Copyright Strikes From Nintendo; Pokemon Releases Music https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220204/08354048414/gilvasunner-youtube-channel-shuts-down-due-to-copyright-strikes-nintendo-pokemon-releases-music.shtml see http://techrights.org/2021/04/30/galleries-self-hosted-videos/ and http://techrights.org/2021/02/24/self-hosting-videos-with-html5/
=> ↺ https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220204/08354048414/gilvasunner-youtube-channel-shuts-down-due-to-copyright-strikes-nintendo-pokemon-releases-music.shtml
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10:22 TR Bot; YouTube Channel Shuts Down Due To Copyright Strikes From Nintendo; Pokemon Releases Music | Techdirt
10:22 TR Bot; Sticking It to YouTube (Google, Alphabet) by Self-Hosting Videos and Making Galleries | Techrights
10:22 TR Bot; Self-Host Your Videos, Take Full Advantage of HTML5 and Video Attributes | Techrights
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10:42 TR News; iophk: many more "news" citing "tweets" in place of official, unfiltered channels of communication
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11:28 TR News; [Meme] #EPC Calling Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/05/meme-epc-calling/ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/05/meme-epc-calling/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/02/05/meme-epc-calling/
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11:28 TR Bot; [Meme] EPC Calling | Techrights
11:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, "Facebook bans me for three more days for criticizing the Minneapolis Police Department's botched "no-knock warrant"."
11:29 DaemonFC; New article coming up.
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11:38 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/02/05/facebook-bans-me-for-three-more-days-for-criticizing-the-minneapolis-police-departments-botched-no-knock-warrant/
11:38 TR Bot; Facebook bans me for three more days for criticizing the Minneapolis Police Departments botched no-knock warrant. BaronHK's Rants
11:38 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, ^
11:39 DaemonFC; Still might work on it a bit.
11:40 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt Tenth Circuit Tells College Administrator That Ordering A Student To Stop Talking About An Instructor Clearly Violates The First Amendment https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220130/12343548385/tenth-circuit-tells-college-administrator-that-ordering-student-to-stop-talking-about-instructor-clearly-violates-first.shtml
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11:40 TR Bot; Circuit Tells College Administrator That Ordering A Student To Stop Talking About An Instructor Clearly Violates The First Amendment | Techdirt
11:41 DaemonFC; Still working.
11:41 schestowitz; lol you use fb
11:42 schestowitz; no first amendment
11:42 schestowitz; mark zuckerberg FIRST
11:42 schestowitz; political kingmaker
11:43 DaemonFC; schestowitz, It gets better
11:43 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/02/05/facebook-bans-me-for-three-more-days-for-criticizing-the-minneapolis-police-departments-botched-no-knock-warrant/
11:43 DaemonFC; "Facebook bans me for three more days for criticizing the Minneapolis Police Departments botched no-knock warrant. Blames COVID-19 for not allowing me to appeal."
11:44 TR News; Hopefully more people will #deletefacebook under "META" (fake name, PR, distraction from scandals) will reach its true market value: zero or less https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/02/05/facebook-bans-me-for-three-more-days-for-criticizing-the-minneapolis-police-departments-botched-no-knock-warrant/
11:45 DaemonFC; "But back to Facebook.... Someone reported my post criticizing the police, and the "AI" moderation at Facebook, which usually says that terrorism and child pornography are "fine" and "we know this isn't the outcome you wanted", banned my account."
11:45 DaemonFC; "Previously, Facebook banned me for three days for insulting the Taliban."
11:45 TR News; "Congress is trying to overload anyone who supports an open internet with terrible bill after terrible bill. Last week, they brought out the "COMPETES Act" (renamed from Endless Frontiers which had already been renamed as "USICA" and then became COMPETES)" https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220204/14101348417/house-votes-competes-act-even-with-problems-almost-entirely-party-lines.shtml
11:45 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220204/14101348417/house-votes-competes-act-even-with-problems-almost-entirely-party-lines.shtml
11:45 TR Bot; Votes For COMPETES Act, Even With Its Problems, Almost Entirely On Party Lines | Techdirt
11:46 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: can you read my draft also?
11:46 schestowitz-TR; 3 mins for vieo to end upload
11:46 schestowitz-TR; *video
11:48 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 14.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 33.43 average k/sec., average swarm size 258.36
11:48 DaemonFC; Yeah.
11:49 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Privacy Effort Underway To Have #Chile Add Access To Knowledge, Digital Sovereignty, And Privacy To Chilean Constitution https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220130/16372248388/effort-underway-to-have-chile-add-access-to-knowledge-digital-sovereignty-privacy-to-chilean-constitution.shtml
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11:49 TR Bot; Underway To Have Chile Add Access To Knowledge, Digital Sovereignty, And Privacy To Chilean Constitution | Techdirt
11:49 schestowitz; DaemonFC: thanks. http://techrights.org/2022/02/05/rendering-epo-illegal/
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11:49 TR Bot; Abandoning the EPC in Order to Promote Corporations-Led EPO With Kangaroo Courts (UPC) is Simply Illegal | Techrights
11:51 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Still working on it.
11:52 DaemonFC; "Previously, it was revealed that thousands of people just like Trump had an exception from Facebook's rules. They allow the most powerful people on the planet to say whatever they want. To encourage political violence and to air grievance politics that play to racists and xenophobes, but they will ban you for suggesting that the police act like, well, the police."
11:56 DaemonFC; "Has the EPO become a private, for-profit enterprise."
11:56 DaemonFC; That's a question.
11:56 DaemonFC; Looks okay.
11:57 DaemonFC; Other than that.
11:58 DaemonFC; Still working on mine.
12:01 DaemonFC; "And as a sidebar, its always the most morally hideous people in this country who say Im not against immigration. I just think it should be done the legal way. and then they vote for people like Donald Trump and he goes zoink zoink zoink.Now there is no legal way and then his supporters go, Well, they were all trash people anyway. with their KKK masks fully donned."
12:02 schestowitz-TR; FB is a waste of effort
12:03 schestowitz-TR; fwiw, rodpress.com is also censoring
12:03 schestowitz-TR; **word
12:04 TR News; Abandoning the #EPC in Order to Promote Corporations-Led #EPO With #KangarooCourts (UPC) is Simply Illegal Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/05/rendering-epo-illegal/ #Techrights #UPC | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/05/rendering-epo-illegal/
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12:05 DaemonFC; This country is a disaster area. And most of the fires that are raging are ones that Trump set deliberately on his way out of office, either to try to win the election at a horrible cost later (inflation, national humiliation, millions of dead from COVID) or to sabotage Joe Biden.
12:06 DaemonFC; Not a horrible cost to him, he'd be fine no matter what. The kleptocracy/kakistocracy always is fine.
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12:14 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161126 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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12:14 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
12:15 TR News; NEWS #PIA Gulags #Surveillance #Advertising Model under Attack on Both Sides of the Atlantic for Its Deep Privacy Problems https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/googles-surveillance-advertising-model-under-attack-on-both-sides-of-the-atlantic-for-its-deep-privacy-problems/
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12:15 TR Bot; Googles Surveillance Advertising Model under Attack on Both Sides of the Atlantic for Its Deep Privacy Problems
12:18 TR News; "the whole point of endless scrolling is to make you addicted" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-040222.html#tFeb%2004%2020:11:02
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12:18 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, February 04, 2022
12:18 TR News; #defectivebydesign #drm https://www.defectivebydesign.org/drm-free
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12:18 TR Bot; About the DRM-free label | Defective by Design
12:19 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I filed an appeal to the Facebook Oversight Board.
12:19 DaemonFC; For what's it's worth.
12:19 TR News; "The best part of having zero fucks to give about mainstream acceptance isnt the non-existent fame/fortune/basic financial stability its the zero fucks to give bit." https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/107733975412163412
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12:19 TR Bot; ar.al: "The best part of having zero fucks to give about " - Arals Mastodon
12:20 DaemonFC; I basically said it was either some dumb "AI" program that banned me or a really dumb person who could have read that and interpreted it as a call to violence.
12:20 TR News; "We filed a case against @google/@YouTube in January 2019 with the Austrian DSB, they sent it to @DPCIreland as Google (unlawfully) "forum shopped" Ireland. " https://mastodon.social/@noybeu/107734666359336776 do #microsoft #epo next http://techrights.org/2021/03/22/epoleaks-report-march-2021-finale/
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12:20 TR Bot; noyb.eu: "RT @maxschrems We filed a case against @google/@Y" - Mastodon
12:20 TR Bot; EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Summing Up: EPO Administrative Council Still Asleep at the Wheel | Techrights
12:21 TR News; Plutocrats-owned media: we are publishing lies https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-04/statement-on-publishing-error
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12:21 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
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12:25 TR News; There's growing realisation that the #EPC has long been abandoned, rendering the legitimacy of the EPO's present operations (or management style) dubious to say the least Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/05/meme-epc-calling/ #Techrights #EPO #Europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/05/meme-epc-calling/
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12:25 TR Bot; [Meme] EPC Calling | Techrights
12:26 TR News; The #EPO has gone off the rails and nobody wants to stop that train, certainly not the member states (MSs) which enabled the abolition of the European #Patent Convention (EPC) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/05/rendering-epo-illegal/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/05/rendering-epo-illegal/
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12:26 TR Bot; Abandoning the EPC in Order to Promote Corporations-Led EPO With Kangaroo Courts (UPC) is Simply Illegal | Techrights
12:27 schestowitz; microLarabel https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-DXGKRNL-v2
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12:27 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-DXGKRNL-v2
12:27 TR Bot; Posts Updated "DXGKRNL" Linux Kernel Driver For WSL/WSA - Phoronix
12:28 schestowitz; yay! WSL
12:28 schestowitz; Phoronix with its Microsoft section
12:29 schestowitz; DaemonFC: twitter did the same
12:30 schestowitz; using holidays or covid to gaslight
12:30 schestowitz; and not handle appeals
12:30 schestowitz; appeals need manpower
12:30 schestowitz; and they're all about cost-savings
12:30 schestowitz; for their shareholders
12:30 DaemonFC; Suggesting that the police use drop guns and the guy probably wasn't even armed gets you a ban.
12:30 DaemonFC; :)
12:31 DaemonFC; Criminals who have any level of intelligence at all get rid of a gun after it has been used in a murder or serious crime.
12:32 DaemonFC; The last thing you want to be caught with is a weapon that was used to kill someone, so from the perspective of a criminal, a gun is disposable. It's a cost of doing business.
12:32 TR News; #phoronix pushing #microsoft #wsl crap today... i.e. an ATTACK on #gnu #linux ... the site has lost its way completely http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/
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12:32 TR Bot; When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights
12:33 DaemonFC; The first thing the police do when they catch you unlawfully carrying a firearm and arrest you is send it down to the state police for ballistics testing.
12:33 DaemonFC; They basically pop off a few rounds and look at the marks it left on the bullets as they were fired.
12:33 DaemonFC; Then they compare that will bullets and casings that they recovered at murder scenes.
12:34 DaemonFC; So while they have you in holding on Unlawful Weapons Use, which is 1-3 years, but you might plead down to a misdemeanor, they're definitely checking to see if they took a murder weapon off of you.
12:34 DaemonFC; And if they did, you're in a whole heap of trouble.
12:34 DaemonFC; So it's much better to just wipe it down and toss it in a river somewhere when you're through with it.
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12:36 DaemonFC; Dumb criminals keep murder weapons. Very dumb criminals murder multiple people with the same one.
12:38 DaemonFC; https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/04/peloton-stock-jumps-20percent-on-report-amazon-is-among-potential-buyers.html
12:38 TR Bot; Peloton stock surges on report Amazon is among potential buyers
12:38 DaemonFC; With the economy on life support, a company that puts a tablet on an expensive stationary bicycle soars on RUMORS that Amazon will buy it.
12:39 DaemonFC; https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/04/though-rare-moderna-covid-vaccine-recipients-have-higher-risk-of-heart-inflammation-than-pfizer.html
12:39 TR Bot; Though rare, Moderna Covid vaccine recipients have higher risk of heart inflammation than Pfizer
12:40 DaemonFC; CDC admits that myocarditis is a much more serious problem with the Moderna COVID vaccine than the Pfizer, but the FDA still approved it yesterday and they both continue downplaying the risks.
12:41 DaemonFC; "Public health authorities in Ontario, Canada found that the rate of myocarditis was five times higher for males ages 18-24 following the second dose of Modernas vaccine than Pfizers."
12:41 DaemonFC; "The survey found that 81% of their patients who developed myocarditis after vaccination completely or probably recovered within 37 weeks after their diagnosis. Another 15% had improved, while 1% had not gotten better."
12:41 DaemonFC; That sounds pretty bullshit.
12:41 DaemonFC; "They PROBABLY recovered. Go ahead, it's safe.....enough."
12:42 XRevan86; lukaso666: hi, long time no see :)
12:43 schestowitz-TR; "Though rare"
12:43 schestowitz-TR; cnbc
12:44 schestowitz-TR; anyway, off topic here
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12:44 DaemonFC; Like, why would anyone take the Moderna shot?
12:44 lukaso666; XRevan86, , dude ;)
12:44 DaemonFC; None of what I've seen suggest it's more effective, but it seriously sickens most of the people who get it.
12:45 DaemonFC; Including projectile vomiting, according to several people who told me that's what happened to them the morning after.
12:45 XRevan86; lukaso666: Saluton
12:45 lukaso666; sal sal :)
12:46 lukaso666; I found this network via gemini
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12:46 lukaso666; soooo many informations :D
12:47 schestowitz-TR; oh, we have good stuff coming soon
12:47 schestowitz-TR; we are beta-testing it today
12:47 schestowitz-TR; it's a web portal for our capsule
12:47 schestowitz-TR; that we self-host
12:47 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, You can tell a ban from Facebook is bullshit when it is a 2-3 day ban.
12:47 DaemonFC; They dole out bans that are shorter than the appeal, so even if you win the appeal it doesn't matter because the punishment has been carried out.
12:48 DaemonFC; A lot like the "right to a speedy trial" in America, where you wait 8 months in jail to be sentenced to 30 days.
12:48 XRevan86; lukaso666: I found it through Diaspora* a while back.
12:48 DaemonFC; The Supreme Court effectively left the right to a speedy trial as dead language.
12:49 TR News; NEWS #RobertReich The Fed is About to Shaft American Workers For No Good Reason https://robertreich.org/post/675282257789992960
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12:49 TR Bot; Robert Reich (The Fed is About to Shaft American Workers -- For...)
12:49 DaemonFC; Because it lets the state determine that to mean whatever it wants to.
12:49 DaemonFC; That guy that was out robbing gas stations the other day is a perfect example.
12:49 lukaso666; XRevan86, cool ;)
12:49 DaemonFC; Out on bail on 5 attempted murders from March 2020.
12:49 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: yes, I noted in December that Twitter does the same
12:49 DaemonFC; If they gave him a speedy trial, he would have been in prison already for some time now.
12:49 schestowitz-TR; they don't process appeals
12:49 schestowitz-TR; and if they do, it's too late
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12:49 lukaso666; I'll be back in few hours
12:50 schestowitz-TR; 0/
12:50 DaemonFC; Prosecutors and judges are in cahoots in many cases to set bail so ridiculously high for misdemeanors that you go ahead and confess so you can get sentenced already.
12:51 DaemonFC; Because you'll spend longer in jail than the possible sentence.
12:51 DaemonFC; I don't think there should be bail for most misdemeanors. Only felonies.
12:51 DaemonFC; I think for most misdemeanors, they should let people out on a promise to appear unless they have a record of not showing up for court or something.
12:52 TR News; NEWS #CommonDreams #Privacy #Surveillance Opinion | Senators Have Re-Introduced the Highly Unpopular #EARNIT Bill That Would Scan All Online Messages https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/02/04/senators-have-re-introduced-highly-unpopular-earn-it-bill-would-scan-all-online
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12:52 TR Bot; Opinion | Senators Have Re-Introduced the Highly Unpopular EARN IT Bill That Would Scan All Online Messages | Joe Mullin
12:52 DaemonFC; It costs taxpayers a lot of money to essentially warehouse people, and then a lot more when they get out and have no job and are homeless.
12:53 DaemonFC; That's how the state works though. "Not their problem." The functionaries that terrorize the public will be able to go home and feed their children tonight, and that's all that matters to them.
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12:53 DaemonFC; and if they do, it's too late
12:54 DaemonFC; What happens is that lots of people you piss off report everything you post until they get a hit.
12:54 DaemonFC; Probably some loser like Mr. Goolag.
12:55 DaemonFC; Also, obviously someone in Germany who thinks that they can nail you every time you talk about IBM assisting the Nazis.
12:55 TR News; NEWS #CounterPunch #Spotify Neil Young's Stand Against #Misinformation on Spotify Draws Curious Responses https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/02/04/neil-youngs-stand-against-misinformation-on-spotify-draws-curious-responses/
12:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/02/04/neil-youngs-stand-against-misinformation-on-spotify-draws-curious-responses/
12:55 TR Bot; Young's Stand Against Misinformation on Spotify Draws Curious Responses - CounterPunch.org
12:55 DaemonFC; Who could that be?
12:55 DaemonFC; Mr. Gulag and Mr. Guten Tag?
12:56 TR News; "I dont know of any journalist or popular commentator who has made a sensible case in support of Spotifys unfair artist compensation practices." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/02/04/neil-youngs-stand-against-misinformation-on-spotify-draws-curious-responses/ #journalism dead already?
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12:57 DaemonFC; Hans and Franz?
12:57 DaemonFC; Oh God, not Neil Young again.
12:58 DaemonFC; He's hoping that he can draw attention to himself with this.
12:58 DaemonFC; Literally nobody under 60 even noticed his music disappearing off of spotify. All three spotify users over 60 probably didn't either.
12:59 DaemonFC; Spotify is just dumb anyway.
12:59 DaemonFC; Almost the entire value of the music industry is their back catalog. Things leftover from when not everything they produced sounded like utter shit.
12:59 DaemonFC; Which happened sometime around 2005 or so.
13:00 DaemonFC; Most of the stuff they produced from the 1960s through about 2000 was pretty good, sometimes incredibly good.
13:00 DaemonFC; And then it took a nose dive.
13:00 schestowitz-TR; yes
13:00 schestowitz-TR; I heard multiple explanations
13:00 DaemonFC; There was about 40-50 years there that were a golden age.
13:00 schestowitz-TR; nd nowadays I rarely listen to English music
13:00 schestowitz-TR; one explanation is,
13:00 schestowitz-TR; the cheapness
13:01 DaemonFC; It's terrible. It's not even English.
13:01 schestowitz-TR; because it's risky to invest a lot in actual musicians and instruments
13:01 DaemonFC; When you can make it out, it's someone singing about her pusy.
13:01 DaemonFC; *pussy
13:01 DaemonFC; (Cardi B)
13:01 schestowitz-TR; in the studios/... oboes and stuff
13:01 schestowitz-TR; so they "digitalise" it
13:01 schestowitz-TR; then second is, copyrioght law
13:01 DaemonFC; People today are fucking slobs, and the whole "culture" reflects that.
13:01 schestowitz-TR; they keep tracks very simple
13:01 schestowitz-TR; to avert lawsuits over "copycats"
13:01 schestowitz-TR; (inspiration)
13:01 DaemonFC; Which is how "Wet Ass Pussy" rises to the top, and you're racist if you don't like it.
13:02 schestowitz-TR; so they by design make worse music
13:02 DaemonFC; "Need You Now" by Lady Antebellum sparked a lawsuit.
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13:03 DaemonFC; Alan Parsons accused it of essentially sampling Eye in the Sky.
13:03 DaemonFC; so they by design make worse music
13:04 schestowitz-TR; you mention urban or rap music
13:04 DaemonFC; Nobody trying anything original is part of the problem.
13:04 schestowitz-TR; there's the thing about that too,
13:04 schestowitz-TR; rap too got worse
13:04 schestowitz-TR; they just play samples in a loop
13:04 DaemonFC; But lots of low IQ people buggering the English language is a big problem.
13:04 schestowitz-TR; ajnd talk trash
13:04 schestowitz-TR; it was not always this bad
13:04 schestowitz-TR; but it is "economic"
13:04 DaemonFC; It's not English. I mean, in the 90s even white people listened to rap all the time.
13:04 DaemonFC; Because it was intelligible. It had words.
13:05 DaemonFC; Eminem started doing rap, it had words.
13:05 DaemonFC; Eminem isn't doing "black music" anymore because it has words.
13:05 schestowitz-TR; some of the 2pac stuff was very good
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13:05 schestowitz-TR; (still is)
13:06 schestowitz-TR; with storytelling also
13:06 gene; eh, modern music sucks, classical or bust D:
13:06 schestowitz-TR; another factor
13:06 DaemonFC; Well, what I can't stand is all of these people that are millionaires now rapping about being poor and getting shot a lifetime ago.
13:06 schestowitz-TR; third one
13:07 gene; picking best music from the past 20000 years vs picking top songs from last month
13:07 schestowitz-TR; aside from copyright risk and investment risk (RoI)
13:07 DaemonFC; Like 50 Cent, so cheap that the guy has millions now and he won't even go back and pay the doctor who dug bullets out of him.
13:07 schestowitz-TR; in the past you sols ALBUMs
13:07 schestowitz-TR; and charged also for lesser tracks
13:07 DaemonFC; Continues stiffing the guy when he wouldn't even notice it if he paid his bill.
13:07 schestowitz-TR; now we have "mini albums" and singles
13:07 schestowitz-TR; because the meanms of distribution changed
13:07 schestowitz-TR; and some artists get paid pennies on a single track
13:08 gene; oh, i got a good infographic on the music stuff
13:08 gene; but the music industry as a whole is a sham; it's all silliness
13:08 DaemonFC; If a doctor was digging bullets out of me and the only reason I was alive was because of that, and then $10 million landed on me, I'd certainly go back and pay him.
13:08 DaemonFC; Even if it was 20-30 years later.
13:08 DaemonFC; It's the right thing to do, you have all this money you can't even spend now.
13:08 schestowitz-TR; gene: it's all "RoI"
13:08 DaemonFC; The guy saved your life...
13:08 gene; so, you went back to childhood and personally thanked all those teachers who had a positive impact on your life DaemonFC?
13:08 schestowitz-TR; studio, drum machine, computer pgoram, some shalow lyrics you cannopt make sense of,
13:09 schestowitz-TR; "l;ove you love, blah blah, missing you"
13:09 schestowitz-TR; and then maybe find some people to press "buy" with DRM
13:09 DaemonFC; Most of those teachers just wanted me out of their classroom quickly.
13:09 schestowitz-TR; so they never even buy but rent
13:09 gene; i can see why
13:09 DaemonFC; Well yeah. They want an easy job.
13:10 DaemonFC; I mean, how hard is it to show up and teach like, 5th grade math, with a union paycheck and a fat pension baking in the background?
13:10 gene; schestowitz; technically we never "own" the music... ownership implies redistribution rights and whatnot
13:10 DaemonFC; Sure in 20 years there won't be a state left, but that's another issue entirely.
13:10 gene; even when we buy the physical medium :(
13:10 gene; 20 years? no state? really? lol
13:11 DaemonFC; Indiana went back and screwed those teachers.
13:11 DaemonFC; They cut the pension years after they earned it.
13:11 gene; do you realize how hard it is to control 30 kids?
13:11 DaemonFC; And then said the budget was balanced.
13:11 TR News; What jobs? Almost half your adult population is out of work (as inflation moreover soars). Don't help the #donaldBiden admin fake the economy... https://truthout.org/articles/january-sees-strong-job-growth-as-omicron-leads-to-cuts-in-hours-not-jobs/
13:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/january-sees-strong-job-growth-as-omicron-leads-to-cuts-in-hours-not-jobs/
13:11 TR Bot; January Sees Strong Job Growth as Omicron Leads to Cuts in Hours, Not Jobs
13:11 gene; 30x 5th grade kids mind you -- could you manage it?
13:11 gene; every single day, for 30+ years
13:11 gene; iirc, my state's pension system was 35 years of service for full pension
13:12 DaemonFC; If all I had to do was call the school "resource officer" to arrest them every time someone farted, sure.
13:12 DaemonFC; That's about what Shitcago Public Schools is.
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13:12 gene; personally, i'm not fond of having police in schools
13:12 gene; i think its stupidity
13:12 schestowitz-TR; bnchs__: gm
13:13 bnchs__; wait the connection is working?
13:13 DaemonFC; We had one float officer in the schools in that Indiana town.
13:13 bnchs__; also good morning
13:13 DaemonFC; Officer Eckstein
13:13 gene; we had a DARE officer when i was a kid
13:13 DaemonFC; He made police chief, but lost it when he cheated on his wife with the high school principal in his patrol car.
13:13 DaemonFC; But that happened because his wife was the mayor's daughter. :)
13:14 gene; heh
13:14 DaemonFC; So he didn't get fired, but he got busted back down pretty hard.
13:14 gene; mayor does kinda get to pick who gets the job
13:14 gene; dude still did a job
13:14 gene; hard to do the job tbh
13:15 TR News; NEWS #CommonDreams #Schools #Education Economists Say Raise Pay to Solve Public #School Staffing Crisis https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/04/economists-say-raise-pay-solve-public-school-staffing-crisis
13:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/04/economists-say-raise-pay-solve-public-school-staffing-crisis
13:15 TR Bot; Economists Say Raise Pay to Solve Public School Staffing Crisis
13:15 DaemonFC; Last I heard, it was Officer Leech who was the police chief. They did that for him because he got injured really badly directing traffic and they couldn't have him doing patrols anymore.
13:15 gene; ah, the dilbert method
13:15 TR News; NEWS #CommonDreams #Biden Biden Education Dept. Reverses on #Student #Debt Case After Reporting Stirred Outrage https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/04/biden-education-dept-reverses-student-debt-case-after-reporting-stirred-outrage
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13:15 TR Bot; Biden Education Dept. Reverses on Student Debt Case After Reporting Stirred Outrage
13:15 gene; can't do the job, so promote them
13:16 gene; tbf, ADA and anti-discrimination + being hurt in the workplace and whatnot
13:16 DaemonFC; It's a small town. Only about 6,000 people.
13:16 gene; i mean, its not like they could just fire him; i'd be willing to bet he was alright management
13:16 DaemonFC; I lived there for almost twenty years and there were 3 murders in 20 years.
13:16 gene; that's a lot of murders in a town of 6000 >.>
13:16 DaemonFC; One was a drug dealer who got chased technically into city limits, shot, and thrown off a bridge, who was from Marion.
13:17 DaemonFC; And then two were the parents of a schizophrenic man who they forced out of their house.
13:17 gene; we've had ~2 murders in the last 50 years or so; 1 was an old lady who was killed for family money; another was stabbed at a hotel [i guess?]
13:17 DaemonFC; So he came back in with a knife and stabbed both of them to death.
13:17 gene; but we're a "city" of 8000
13:17 gene; they were stabbed like 30+ times iirc
13:17 DaemonFC; I heard that his mom made it to the phone and called 911 and was screaming while she was being stabbed.
13:18 DaemonFC; She was telling the dispatcher that the guy was stabbing her husband and then while she was doing that, he came and killed her while she was on the phone.
13:18 TR News; NEWS #TheNation Another Banner Year for the Military-Industrial Complex https://www.thenation.com/article/world/weapons-spending-pentagon-2021/ feeding criminals from #microsoft (bailout) http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
=> ↺ https://www.thenation.com/article/world/weapons-spending-pentagon-2021/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
13:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/world/weapons-spending-pentagon-2021/
13:18 TR Bot; Another Banner Year for the Military-Industrial Complex | The Nation
13:18 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
13:18 DaemonFC; If she had a gun, she could have shot him and perhaps both of them would be alive, or at least her.
13:19 DaemonFC; So one was drug related and spillover from the bigger city next door, and two were some psycho killing his parents.
13:19 gene; if she had a gun, he'd probably have a gun
13:19 gene; imagine if he grabbed the gun instead of a knife D:
13:19 schestowitz-TR; this "everyone get a gun" mentality is BS
13:20 gene; it leads to a lot more sheep holding weapons they don't really need
13:20 DaemonFC; The next town I lived in had two murders between 2000 and now.
13:20 schestowitz-TR; you just arm people to the teeth
13:20 DaemonFC; One was a DEA agent they tied to the bed and lit on fire.
13:20 schestowitz-TR; so they can kill more people more efficiently
13:20 DaemonFC; And the other was a guy who went into a convenience store and stabbed someone.
13:20 schestowitz-TR; with a knife it's difficult to kill several people simultaneously
13:20 schestowitz-TR; even with a sword
13:20 DaemonFC; Even though everyone in the town has a gun, no murders involving a gun.
13:20 DaemonFC; And only one murder about every decade.
13:21 DaemonFC; 99% white. The gun is to enforce politeness.
13:21 schestowitz-TR; anyway, we've strayede off topic
13:21 schestowitz-TR; back to tech now
13:21 schestowitz-TR; carry on in another channel
13:21 DaemonFC; You will politely stay out of my house and politely keep your hands off my television.
13:21 DaemonFC; Or else.... :)
13:21 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights
13:22 DaemonFC; And so everyone knows what happens if you break in, and so it doesn't happen.
13:22 DaemonFC; You can keep your doors unlocked in most of Indiana.
13:22 TR News; NEWS #TheNation #Pandemic We Need a 92 Percent Tax on Pandemic Profiteers https://www.thenation.com/article/society/tax-billionaires-covid/ #patents should be mentioned here. Why don't the #patent #monopolies receive enough scrutiny?
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13:22 TR Bot; We Need a 92 Percent Tax on Pandemic Profiteers | The Nation
13:22 DaemonFC; Here in this Illinois city, there was a home invasion a few months ago.
13:23 DaemonFC; Burglars, three of them, thought "pregnant woman.....easy".
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13:23 DaemonFC; So they break in, and it turned out that there was a tenant with a FOID card and an AR-15 renting the basement.
13:23 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: anothyer channel -->
13:23 DaemonFC; He killed all of them, and the police just checked to see if he had a FOID card, and when he did, they hauled the three bodies out and said have a nice day.
13:23 DaemonFC; How it should be.
13:23 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: I will start muting
13:24 schestowitz-TR; if you carry on putting racist tropes in #techrights
13:25 DaemonFC; If he didn't have a FOID card or the gun, the home invaders would have at least made off with everything they cared to, and possibly have paused to rape the woman living there (who they thought was alone). Didn't work so well for them.
13:25 DaemonFC; And the cops are just an hour away!
13:26 DaemonFC; Like Cartman said in South Park. "Hurry up, the guy's raping my mom and probably has time to smoke a cigarette!"
13:26 DaemonFC; If you depend on the police, that's what happens.
13:26 *schestowitz gives channel operator status to schestowitz
13:27 *schestowitz gives channel operator status to schestowitz-TR
13:28 DaemonFC; it leads to a lot more sheep holding weapons they don't really need
13:28 DaemonFC; They shouldn't need them. But that's kind of where we're at.
13:28 DaemonFC; Police malfeasance and incompetence and corruption leaves you on your own.
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13:28 DaemonFC; And how difficult that is for you depends on the politicians your neighbors voted into office.
13:29 gene; police gangs are heavily overfunded; but luckily, my city has more accountability than larger cities
13:29 gene; NYPD and LAPD are probably the largest gangs in US; Chicago PD compete against Columbus PD and whatnot
13:29 gene; Columbus PD is really good at kidding unarmed folks randomly
13:30 DaemonFC; The cops in Chicago only seem to deal with crime when it's affecting a business.
13:30 gene; Chicago PD is more likely to just lock you up with fake evidence instead
13:30 DaemonFC; Like, if there's some guy screaming at people down at the McDonalds, they'll come take care of it.
13:30 TR News; "fighting to unionize Amazon." https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/maida-springer-kemp-labor/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Amazon
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13:30 TR Bot; Maida Springer Kemp Championed Workers Rights on a Global Scale | The Nation
13:30 TR Bot; Amazon - Techrights
13:30 DaemonFC; But carjackings, home invasions? You're on your own. God help you. "Gun free city!" Only 12,800 shootings per year. :)
13:31 gene; police response time in my community is the same regardless of business or residential
13:31 gene; I don't think cities are a good place; i think theres a lot of stress; people cause stress
13:31 DaemonFC; CPD average response time in South Shore, Chicago is 2 hours and 38 minutes.
13:31 DaemonFC; If you live in a GOOD neighborhood, it's usually 40 minutes or so.
13:32 DaemonFC; So, you're dead 50 times over or dead 150 times over, doesn't really help you does it?
13:32 gene; as you increase population density, increase barriers to equitable outcomes [school funding systems creating effective segregation], problems occur in society
13:32 DaemonFC; People aren't meant to live like that.
13:32 gene; in my city, where 30% of the local taxes [1%] goes towards fire and police, it's about 3 min response time from either service
13:32 schestowitz; psydroid8: two in one
13:32 schestowitz;
13:33 schestowitz; Dispatch from Belize
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13:33 TR Bot; from Belize - CounterPunch.org
13:33 schestowitz;
13:33 schestowitz; Meanwhile Belize provides no escape from the news cycle. As investigation into the roots of the Big Lie of a rigged U.S. presidential election deepens, a completely different Big Lie continues to muddle global superpower conflicts: the Lie that enough military force can ensure security.
13:33 schestowitz; The nuclear superpowers, confronted with how to respond to each other at points of tension like Ukraine and Taiwan, are certain that readiness for mass nuclear murder will deter rivals and help them get their way.
13:33 schestowitz; oops
13:33 schestowitz; wrong paSTE
13:33 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Shadow-Stacks-Linux-AMD
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13:33 DaemonFC; It's an affront to how people are supposed to live, so I don't know how big city crime can be shocking to anyone? It's also bad for health in general.
13:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Shadow-Stacks-Linux-AMD
13:33 TR Bot; Linux Shadow Stack Patches Should Work Fine With AMD CPUs - Phoronix
13:33 DaemonFC; Pollution, stress, etc.
13:33 schestowitz; INTEL+AMD
13:33 schestowitz; PHORONIx86
13:33 gene; i mean, breathing in cow shit every year also aint natural
13:33 DaemonFC; Commuting and cubicle farms are an affront to nature.
13:33 DaemonFC; I think Roy mentioned something like this.
13:34 gene; the over fertilization that leads to water changing taste
13:34 gene; annually*
13:34 DaemonFC; The Democrats are shitting themselves over remote work.
13:34 gene; erm?
13:34 TR News; CadQuery Comes Of Age | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/04/cadquery-comes-of-age/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/05/#latest
=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/02/04/cadquery-comes-of-age/
=> ↺ http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/05/#latest
13:34 TR Bot; Comes Of Age | Hackaday
13:34 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
13:34 DaemonFC; They are. Without remote work, you have to live in their crime-plagued cities, driving up rents to the point of insanity, propping up welfare programs for their voters.
13:34 gene; didn't biden just post the most gobs growth records since like 1970s or some shit?
13:35 DaemonFC; When you do remote work, you can go live somewhere where they won't shoot you for your shoelaces and you don't need to get stuck in traffic two hours a day.
13:35 gene; cause "mah gobs"
13:35 gene; i mean, there's counties in the US where you'll be shot for tying your shoelace... if you have the wrong skin color
13:35 gene; "your kind don't belong here"... a ctually FUN STORY FROM ME NOW!
13:35 DaemonFC; That's a myth.
13:36 DaemonFC; The people who get shot are carrying out a robbery or are scoping the place to be robbed.
13:36 gene; in a county over; there was the chief of police in a room with a couple water treatment workers...
13:36 schestowitz; [13:34] The Democrats are shitting themselves over remote work.
13:36 schestowitz; "Remote work" is
13:36 DaemonFC; Then when that happens, they just had skittles and iced tea.
13:36 schestowitz; 1) misnomer
13:36 schestowitz; home is not remote, it's home
13:36 gene; one water treatment worker was talking about race and mentioned we should just "shoot all them n-words" - one water treatment worker didn't like that and reported it
13:36 schestowitz; 2) not done to pamper staff, it's REQUIRED to KEEP BUSINESS MAKING MONEY
13:36 gene; administrative investigation triggered; the chief of police LIED about it
13:37 schestowitz; 3) harms the office estate tycoons and stakeholders, who control a big chuck of the political system
13:37 schestowitz; (so this will be temporary only)
13:37 gene; the mayor tried to suspend the chief of police for lying during an administrative investigation for 30 days; council was like "nah, he shouldn't be punished", they went into executive session and said "we gonna vote you out if you don't resign"
13:37 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Real estate scams.
13:37 gene; because the mayor did suspend them the chief of police for 3 days >.>
13:37 DaemonFC; Gotta keep the bubble going.
13:37 schestowitz; 4) managers and other non-productive people demand an office space where they can ego-trip
13:37 DaemonFC; Millions homeless. Insane office rents.
13:38 gene; i kinda feel bad for the mayor, but what can i do? i could probably try to inform the citizens
13:38 gene; the vast majority of the electorate are low information voters
13:38 DaemonFC; 4) managers and other non-productive people demand an office space where they can ego-trip
13:38 DaemonFC; I had a boss that was like a mixture of Bill Lumbergh from Office Space and Walter White's boss at the car wash from Breaking Bad.
13:39 DaemonFC; Eyebrows of doom, suspenders, and a cup of coffee in his hand all the time.
13:39 schestowitz; for a year we had a lousy managers who tried to abuse home workers too
13:39 schestowitz; I complained
13:39 schestowitz; and they sacked her
13:39 DaemonFC; It's hard to take those people seriously.
13:39 schestowitz; I called her "Sarin gas"
13:40 DaemonFC; schestowitz, The banality of evil.
13:40 gene; so, how long until musk uses his starlink network as orbital bombardment?
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13:40 gene; or do you think he'll just fully teleoperate his remotely controlled cars with that network instead; make their cybertrucks and semis into high tech battering rams
13:40 schestowitz; maybe that's why he gets susidies
13:41 schestowitz; the pentagon spinning off strategic projects
13:41 schestowitz; as private companies
13:41 schestowitz; very common in the surveillance silo
13:41 gene; oh, he totally gets tons of military funding
13:41 DaemonFC; I wonder when he'll crash one of the satellites into that Chinese space station finally.
13:41 DaemonFC; They're the ones that put it into a matching orbit with Starlink satellites.
13:41 DaemonFC; I don't think the ISS has ever had a close call.
13:42 gene; uhhh didn't a piece of space debris literally poke a hole in it the other month?
13:42 schestowitz; space debris is a bigger issue
13:42 DaemonFC; That's a different issue.
13:42 DaemonFC; That's hard to track. Satellites aren't.
13:42 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_debris
=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome
=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_debris
13:42 TR Bot; Kessler syndrome - Wikipedia
13:42 TR Bot; Space debris - Wikipedia
13:42 schestowitz; DaemonFC: that's why it's worse
13:42 schestowitz; there's no tracking
13:43 schestowitz; and nobody cleans those up
13:43 gene; i feel as though starlink is a net negative to societyas a whole and we should run fiber to people's homes... if you have electricity, you should have fiber
13:43 DaemonFC; In 2007 and 2008, China and the US demonstrated that they could both shoot down satellites.
13:43 DaemonFC; And the debris from both was in orbit for years.
13:43 schestowitz; gene: we should send drones with water bottles on them,
13:43 schestowitz; who needs water pipes anyway?
13:44 gene; i mean, ironically hydrogen powered drones do technically have some components of water on them
13:44 DaemonFC; Amazon water delivery.
13:44 DaemonFC; Who needs pipes?
13:44 gene; partnered with Nestle*
13:44 schestowitz; Bezos Premium Water(TM)
13:44 DaemonFC; Water from pipes is for GHETTO PEOPLE. -MARISOL
13:44 gene; gotta include the evil multinational slave owning overlords
13:44 schestowitz; estimated arrival: 48 hours
13:45 DaemonFC; Then because it's Amazon, they'll ship it in non-biodegradable packaging that's 14 times bigger than the item.
13:45 DaemonFC; :)
13:46 TR News; "In the past I used to run a number of virtual machines, or dedicated hosts. Currently I'm cut things down to only a single machine which I'm planning to remove." https://blog.steve.fi/removing_my_last_server_.html
=> ↺ https://blog.steve.fi/removing_my_last_server_.html
13:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: steve.fi | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.steve.fi/removing_my_last_server_.html
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13:46 TR Bot; Removing my last server?
13:46 DaemonFC; With any luck, this Omicron shit will just keep hurting people who are acting stupidly.
13:46 DaemonFC; That's pretty much everyone who gets it and has serious consequences from it.
13:47 DaemonFC; We STILL have not had COVID.
13:47 schestowitz-TR; same here
13:47 schestowitz-TR; borther and dad got it
13:47 schestowitz-TR; and ister in law
13:47 DaemonFC; I couldn't think of anyone more deserving of it than my sister-in-law.
13:47 DaemonFC; Fat chance though.
13:47 schestowitz-TR; everyone I know who who had tested positive also had symptoms
13:48 DaemonFC; Unless it turns into an email virus.
13:48 schestowitz-TR; but that's off topic anyway
13:48 DaemonFC; "Frontline worker"
13:48 schestowitz-TR; Frontline navigator
13:48 schestowitz-TR; Netscaper
13:48 schestowitz-TR; Netscape nurse
13:48 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Firefox on Android does behave a lot like Netscape Navigator.
13:49 DaemonFC; Netscape Navigator reloaded the entire web page off of the Internet if you resized the window.
13:49 DaemonFC; Firefox does it if you switch to another app and then back.
13:49 DaemonFC; :)
13:49 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 14.86 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.28 average k/sec., average swarm size 258.42
13:50 TR News; "Thats why we have already flocked to doorbell cameras for the police, that expose bad parenting, with the same defects of social media. And thats why we are now going to adopt spying streetlights. All stuff that does the same surveillance as drones, just much more cheaply and discreetly. Smart cities, these are not." https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/12/certain-risks-of-drones-were-wildly-exhagerated/
=> ↺ https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/12/certain-risks-of-drones-were-wildly-exhagerated/
13:50 TR Bot; Certain risks of drones were wildly exhagerated | Stop at Zona-M
13:51 bnchs__; streetlights has have lights
13:51 schestowitz-TR; cctv
13:51 bnchs__; have to have*
13:51 schestowitz-TR; with lights on it
13:51 schestowitz-TR; :)
13:51 schestowitz-TR; and microphone, too
13:51 DaemonFC; Chicago has Police Pods.
13:51 bnchs__; also the budget to do this must be too expensive
13:51 schestowitz-TR; "smart" phones
13:51 schestowitz-TR; spying devices
13:51 schestowitz-TR; that can also make some calls, sometimes...
13:51 DaemonFC; They did studies. Crime doesn't go down. It just moves to where the Pod can't see it.
13:52 bnchs__; imagine having to put a camera in every streetlights
13:52 schestowitz-TR; biden: oligarch's spokesperson
13:52 DaemonFC; Now they're complaining that shot spotter is racist.
13:52 schestowitz-TR; who can also sign bills and EOs
13:52 DaemonFC; It triangulates gunshots so the police know where to respond.
13:52 DaemonFC; It's racist that most of the gunshots happen where....oh I won't say it.
13:52 DaemonFC; :)
13:53 schestowitz-TR; triangulation is not for sound
13:53 DaemonFC; If you get rid of the microphones you don't have to know that.
13:53 schestowitz-TR; false marketing
13:53 schestowitz-TR; bad science and pseudoscience
13:53 schestowitz-TR; to graft
13:53 DaemonFC; Like if you don't test for COVID, you don't have "these numbers".
13:53 bnchs__; there's neighborhoods nearby that have cameras attached to a streetlight, and people just throw rocks and stones at it
13:54 DaemonFC; People in Waukegan reacted badly to the red light camera.
13:54 bnchs__; they can't find the person who did it, and they have to pay for the camera again
13:54 DaemonFC; The city had to remove it after someone set it on fire.
13:54 DaemonFC; They never bothered replacing the one at that intersection.
13:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Not all heroes wear capes.
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13:55 bnchs__; our country has these chinese cameras (dahua) and it's not good that they're known for shitty security
13:56 schestowitz-TR; but it helps sall
13:56 schestowitz-TR; cameras
13:56 schestowitz-TR; *sekk
13:56 schestowitz-TR; *sell
13:56 schestowitz-TR; and sales are good for "the economy"
13:56 DaemonFC; The government thinks everyone is stupid. On the FAQ for "redflex" is says, "Isn't the government just doing this for money?" and they say "No. In fact, revenue goes down. The purpose is safety." The cameras cause more accidents when people slam the brakes, and Chicago is making several million dollars a day.
13:57 DaemonFC; They didn't install these so that revenue will go down.
13:57 DaemonFC; They do it to play gotcha games.
13:57 DaemonFC; The police could never pull over thousands of speeders, but the cameras can issue tickets to everybody.
13:57 DaemonFC; They put 90% of them in the black neighborhoods.
13:58 DaemonFC; Then Lightfoot reduced the speed you have to be going to trigger it in order to send out twice as many fines.
13:58 DaemonFC; Racial justice, dont'cha know?
13:58 bnchs__; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/unpatched-dahua-cams-vulnerable-to-unauthenticated-remote-access/
13:58 Alternative link; Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/unpatched-dahua-cams-vulnerable-to-unauthenticated-remote-access/
13:58 TR Bot; Unpatched Dahua cams vulnerable to unauthenticated remote access
13:59 DaemonFC; Then the stinking foul bureaucrats will get hundreds of millions in revenue and go "Because we're so enlightened, 1,000 families in a city of 3 million will get $500 a month for a year....maybe.....at some point, if we feel like it...we suppose.".
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14:00 DaemonFC; "Life's just getting too tough out there, and so we made it 1,000 times harder for all of you and then 99.9% of you get to watch the other 0.1% get UBI. May the odds be ever in your favor!"
14:00 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, This goes back to what I was saying to dad the other day.
14:01 DaemonFC; For every thing the government does that benefits you, it does 99 things to hurt you and tax you and be a drag on you.
14:01 DaemonFC; And then people shame you for taking advantage of the 1 thing out of 100 that is a benefit.
14:02 DaemonFC; Like, when I was on probation and the government was shaking me down and threatening to send me to jail if I didn't cough up the fine....the probation officer suggests signing up for Medicaid.
14:02 DaemonFC; I told her 'I wouldn't need fucking Medicaid if the court system wasn't so out of control and levied a fine that I can't easily pay.".
14:02 DaemonFC; "But yeah, I'll look into that."
14:02 DaemonFC; "About time they did something that benefits me."
14:03 DaemonFC; Their goal is to keep most people so poor they need lots of government handouts.
14:03 DaemonFC; That way it becomes impossible to revolt when enough people feel they don't particularly need the government for anything anymore.
14:04 DaemonFC; Programs like food stamps and Medicaid and Obamacare and all of that are just so millions of people think they need the government.
14:05 DaemonFC; They're too afraid to change anything. If they rock the boat, they may have to figure out how to fend for themselves.
14:05 DaemonFC; It's to teach dependency.
14:06 DaemonFC; And Richard Stallman seems to worship the state and think that this foul evil thing is doing it out of charity and kindness, and that there should be MORE programs so that nobody can change the government.
14:06 DaemonFC; The whole thing is set up so that people are living hand to mouth. That's all you're supposed to be able to do.
14:07 DaemonFC; Live hand to mouth and be afraid of Republicans taking it away from you. These programs are really designed so that people vote for Democrats.
14:07 activelow; you are confusing "government" with "the state"
14:07 schestowitz-TR; ddifferences?
14:07 activelow; it is "the state" which provides clean water, heating, roads, health care schools, not any government
14:07 DaemonFC; Yeah, if the government got out of healthcare entirely, it couldn't be that expensive.
14:08 DaemonFC; It's expensive for the same reason pulling a dent out of your car is $800 with insurance and $200 without insurance.
14:08 activelow; the state includes both, the population and more or less the government
14:08 DaemonFC; If it's insurance, they have to pay, so the body shop soaks the insurance.
14:08 TR News; Links 5/2/2022: #QubesOS 4.1.0 and Ultimate Edition 7.5? Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/05/qubes-os-4-1-0/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/05/qubes-os-4-1-0/
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14:08 TR Bot; Links 5/2/2022: Qubes OS 4.1.0 and Ultimate Edition 7.5? | Techrights
14:08 TR News; #Security and #ProprietarySoftware Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161127 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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14:08 TR Bot; Security and Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:08 DaemonFC; If healthcare had to be tethered to what people can actually pay, instead of having guaranteed customers due to programs, then it would be a lot cheaper.
14:09 TR News; #Fedora and #RedHat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161128 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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14:09 TR Bot; Fedora and Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:09 activelow; question isn't if "the state" could or should be abandoned (without roads being built anymore, hospitals, schools, water, heating), question is if a self-proclaimed nobility, the government, can be replaced or removed
14:09 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161129 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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14:09 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
14:09 DaemonFC; They calculate the cost of everything based on that being a starting point in negotiations with programs and insurance companies.
14:09 activelow; often, this is the articulated threat, a government would collapse the entire state when removed
14:09 DaemonFC; We have some private roads here, and they're in better shape than anything that comes out of the general fund.
14:10 DaemonFC; I have a transponder in my car to pay for using those.
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14:10 activelow; meanwhile, the city major of Nuernberg had sent a letter to all inhabitants with the dictate: "GET VACCINATED!", written in bold letters.
14:10 DaemonFC; The state is broke because it's managed by incompetent politicians that make promises that they can't keep.
14:11 DaemonFC; They squander all of our money on pensions for "government workers" who sit around and shuffle papers all day.
14:11 DaemonFC; Doing nothing that anyone living here benefits from.
14:11 DaemonFC; They expire our licenses every 4 years to create more work for the DMV. In Indiana, you only have to renew half as often and there aren't more car accidents.
14:12 DaemonFC; Then the result of making work and pensions for the DMV, is that the roads have more potholes in them.
14:12 DaemonFC; Because it takes money that could have paid construction workers to do a real job, and then would have saved people billions in car repairs.
14:13 DaemonFC; Almost every "job" the government "creates" is a loss for society.
14:14 DaemonFC; They tax the real workers and piss it down a rat hole on idiots that do nothing terribly important.
14:15 DaemonFC; They have case workers at the "welfare" office that have to go down everything line by line. It costs more to have them than it would to just have a computer program verify things and approve the case, and save humans for appeals that get kicked out for some reason.
14:16 DaemonFC; But by having them there, it creates a "patronage army" which votes in a labor union, and then brings in money and votes for the Democrats.
14:16 DaemonFC; So it's worth a lot to them to keep it the way it is.
14:17 DaemonFC; They have partially privatized the DMV in Illinois.
14:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, ^
14:17 DaemonFC; If you don't feel like blowing your whole day on Papers, Please! you can go into a Currency Exchange and pay a convenience fee, and get in and out in less than 20 minutes.
14:18 DaemonFC; The idea is that by adding a convenience fee, you don't have to stand in line with the poor people over at the DMV wasting your whole day, dealing with the rejects from the TSA.
14:19 TR News; 11 Best Linux Distros For #Programming And Development [2022 Edition] https://fossbytes.com/best-linux-distros-for-programming-developers/ #FossBytes #GNU #Linux in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/05/#latest
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14:19 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fossbytes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://fossbytes.com/best-linux-distros-for-programming-developers/
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14:19 TR Bot; 11 Best Linux Distros For Programming And Development [2022 Edition]
14:19 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
14:20 DaemonFC; It's scary just how many people do work for the government.
14:20 DaemonFC; Because it doesn't produce anything unless you count suffering.
14:20 schestowitz-TR; why?
14:20 schestowitz-TR; ffalse.
14:20 schestowitz-TR; gafam do suffering
14:20 schestowitz-TR; and work for govs
14:20 schestowitz-TR; indirectly
14:21 DaemonFC; Yeah, it benefits the government, so they have a license to break the laws and pay no taxes.
14:21 DaemonFC; It's another part of the cancer that is government.
14:22 TR News; Another kind of #openwashing https://www.wfmz.com/news/pr_newswire/pr_newswire_stocks/advancements-that-attract-using-technology-to-support-your-workforce----a-free-webinar/article_a717ede8-a67d-59cf-aa28-142cd1f91b3e.html
14:22 TR Bot; that Attract: Using Technology to Support Your Workforce -- A Free Webinar By Bells & OPEN MINDS | News | wfmz.com
14:22 DaemonFC; People who benefit the government usually do get a blind eye to their crimes.
14:22 DaemonFC; The police have snitches that are allowed to commit minor offenses in exchange for ratting out other people.
14:22 DaemonFC; GAFAM is just that on steroids.
14:24 DaemonFC; Facebook is designed so that people self-censor and inform on themselves.
14:25 DaemonFC; They do a good job of that. The police say they love Facebook.
14:25 bnchs__; the dahua DVR web control uses ActiveX
14:25 DaemonFC; Criminals get on there and post all sorts of stuff that comes up later at the trial.
14:25 DaemonFC; Nap time.
14:26 schestowitz-TR; 0/
14:27 schestowitz-TR; [14:22] GAFAM is just that on steroids.
14:27 schestowitz-TR; bigger budget
14:27 schestowitz; <http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
14:27 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
14:27 schestowitz; six-figure salaries for gov. CONTRACTORS
14:27 schestowitz; military objective served... but sold as "business"
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14:29 bnchs__; i just realized how much our country uses microsoft tech
14:30 bnchs__; the government websites even education are hosted using Microsoft IIS 8.5
14:32 schestowitz-TR; in 2022 ^_^
14:33 SomeH4x0r; what is wrong with 2022?
14:33 bnchs__; their websites actually got hacked many times
14:33 SomeH4x0r; I don't believe in "progress"
14:34 SomeH4x0r; it still happens, but it is a lot about evil activities of corporations
14:34 SomeH4x0r; I mean real progress, and fake one, which is about making people keep buying things they don't need
14:35 TR News; The open-source world is more and more closed Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161130 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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14:35 TR Bot; The open-source world is more and more closed | Tux Machines
14:36 bnchs__; schools use the website to store student scores, but they don't trust it as much, because the website is buggy as shit
14:37 psydroid4; the same thing can be seen in Eastern Europe
14:38 psydroid4; I don't know if it has anything to do with financial incentives or people believing Microsoft still stands for something
14:38 psydroid4; anything
14:39 bnchs__; there's many students who pays someone (who has a backdoor) to tamper with their score
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14:41 psydroid4; I don't know how much can be made out of this: https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rijksoverheid.nl%2F
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14:41 TR Bot; Site report for https://www.rijksoverheid.nl | Netcraft
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14:41 psydroid4; but I don't think it runs on Microsoft
14:43 TR News; BS clickbait, propping up the already-ludicrous bubbles that are #socialcontrolmedia [sic] (and #facebook collapsed only days ago) https://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/shopping-on-social-media-platforms-forecast-to-reach-1-2-trillion-by-2025-87380.html
14:43 TR Bot; Shopping on Social Media Platforms Forecast To Reach $1.2 Trillion by 2025
14:45 bnchs__; our country has ties to microsoft
14:46 bnchs__; i mean government
14:47 bnchs__; https://news.microsoft.com/en-xm/2019/03/05/microsoft-4afrika-backs-development-of-moroccan-egovernment-solution/
14:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: microsoft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.microsoft.com/en-xm/2019/03/05/microsoft-4afrika-backs-development-of-moroccan-egovernment-solution/
14:47 TR Bot; Microsoft 4Afrika backs development of Moroccan eGovernment solution Middle East & Africa News Center
14:47 TR News; "One of the core components of the platform is the Linux kernel. In light of the earlier CentOS announcements, the community decided to move over to Debian in an incremental process. In the 6.0 release, this means to upgrade to the 5.10 version of the kernel." https://blogs.windriver.com/wind_river_blog/2022/02/starlingx-r6-0-is-here/
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14:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: windriver.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blogs.windriver.com/wind_river_blog/2022/02/starlingx-r6-0-is-here/
14:47 TR Bot; StarlingX R6.0 is here!
14:47 psydroid4; our country does too, but less so than yours
14:48 bnchs__; this is probably why our websites runs on microsoft tech, microsoft is greasing our government's hands
14:48 psydroid4; it's easier to bribe officials in developing countries, though
14:48 wallacer; not really, just that bribery works in different ways
14:49 wallacer; financial capital doesn't change hands, other forms of capital do
14:49 TR News; #intel lies and #propaganda ... they've outsourced this to #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware https://medium.com/intel-tech/oneapi-as-a-catalyst-for-open-innovation-59904a602e leaks about #openAPI in http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
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14:49 Alternative link; Cloudflare: medium.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medium.com/intel-tech/oneapi-as-a-catalyst-for-open-innovation-59904a602e
14:49 TR Bot; as a Catalyst for Open Innovation | by Intel | Intel Tech | Feb, 2022 | Medium
14:49 TR Bot; Intel leaks - Techrights
14:49 schestowitz-TR; bnchs__: we covered morocco in many contexts
14:49 schestowitz-TR; inc. epo
14:49 schestowitz-TR; as recently as months ago
14:49 bnchs__; really?
14:49 psydroid4; the worst part of that is that adopting that Microsoft technology will hold your country's technological development back
14:50 schestowitz; 2016: http://techrights.org/2016/05/20/battistelli-in-morocco/
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14:50 TR Bot; Notorious EPO Tyrant, Benot Battistelli, Meets Other Tyrants, Reportedly Cleanses the Administrative Council | Techrights
14:50 schestowitz; the criminals in europe love the dictators in other places
14:51 schestowitz; in east asia and in northern africa, south america
14:51 schestowitz; months ago: http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/paying-to-avoid-negative-press-coverage/
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14:51 TR Bot; The EPO is on the Run (Escaping Negative Press Coverage) | Techrights
14:52 bnchs__; you can't really speak out against the king mohammed VI here
14:52 schestowitz; I know
14:52 schestowitz; same in EPOnia
14:52 schestowitz; the "king" is beyond criticism
14:52 schestowitz; they also love SIPO/CNIPA/China
14:52 psydroid4; students here have literally told me "I like Windows"
14:53 schestowitz; where you cannot criticise the dictator
14:53 psydroid4; even now that alternatives work much better
14:53 schestowitz; psydroid4: maybe they tried nothing else except mobile
14:53 schestowitz; mobile is even worse
14:53 bnchs__; at least one thing microsoft hasn't touched is our tech-ed books
14:54 psydroid4; there are some applications that only run on Windows, I get that and have to use it for those sometimes too
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14:54 psydroid4; but that doesn't make me "like" Windows
14:54 TR News; #bsd powered https://www.prweb.com/releases/2022/01/prweb18467160.htm
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14:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: prweb.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prweb.com/releases/2022/01/prweb18467160.htm
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14:54 TR Bot; iXsystems Outperforms in 2021 with 70% Year-over-Year Growth of TrueNAS Open Storage Deployments
14:55 psydroid4; I've read about Microsoft(-only) universities in the US
14:55 psydroid4; I don't know to what extent those are a thing, but I would probably laugh first and then ask them if they are serious
14:56 TR News; Modern-day #slavery (the source of the stuff they sell, maybe till workers also) https://patch.com/oregon/beaverton/beaverton-starbucks-file-unionize-sherwood-crash-traps-1 #starbucks
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14:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: patch.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://patch.com/oregon/beaverton/beaverton-starbucks-file-unionize-sherwood-crash-traps-1
14:56 TR Bot; Starbucks File To Unionize + Sherwood Crash Traps 1 | Beaverton, OR Patch
14:57 TR News; #GAFAM : we have to PRETEND to be against #slavery because slavery is what we do and cause. So mixed messages will confuse, diffuse, and muddle up the information. #sweatshops #military #exploitation #greed
14:57 bnchs__; primary schools here use GNU/Linux on computers
14:57 schestowitz-TR; great
14:59 schestowitz; https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/morocco-journalist-omar-radi-sentenced-six-years-after-unfair-trial from https://www.amnesty.org.uk/issues/technology-and-human-rights
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14:59 TR Bot; Morocco: journalist Omar Radi sentenced to six years after unfair trial | Amnesty International UK
14:59 TR Bot; Technology and human rights | Amnesty International UK
15:00 schestowitz; "In June 2020, an Amnesty report revealed that Omar Radi had been targeted by the Moroccan authorities using spyware produced by the Israeli company NSO Group. Following this, the Moroccan authorities launched a smear campaign against Amnesty, attempting to discredit the organisations findings and distract from the unlawful surveillance of human rights defenders and journalists in the country. The indictment in both the espionage and rape cases
15:00 schestowitz; against Radi confirm that the authorities had had the journalist under surveillance from late December 2017. "
15:00 schestowitz; He should have used gnu/linux
15:00 bnchs__; it's maybe because they have oldass computers and they need to use new software
15:00 bnchs__; like tuxpaint and firefox
15:00 schestowitz; at least they teach instead of train
15:02 TR News; #Java News Roundup: Loom and Panama Updates, Groovy 4.0, GraalVM 22.0 CE, Jakarta EE RPC https://www.infoq.com/news/2022/01/java-news-roundup-jan24-2022/ #programming
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15:02 TR Bot; Java News Roundup: Loom and Panama Updates, Groovy 4.0, GraalVM 22.0 CE, Jakarta EE RPC
15:02 bnchs__; the college IT books also teachs them GIMP, audacity, and (unfortunately) MSoffice
15:02 SomeH4x0r; didn't audacity turn evil recently?
15:02 SomeH4x0r; I'm not sure about GIMP. Big software is high risk.
15:02 bnchs__; the book was made before audacity got sold
15:03 TR News; "with my limited understanding, modern languages like Rust do seem like a safer, more modern, more robust choice." https://www.osnews.com/story/134508/rust-written-replacement-to-gnu-coreutils-progressing-some-binaries-now-faster/ well, #rustlang ITSELF has #security issues, attack surface
15:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: osnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.osnews.com/story/134508/rust-written-replacement-to-gnu-coreutils-progressing-some-binaries-now-faster/
15:03 TR Bot; replacement to GNU Coreutils progressing, some binaries now faster OSnews
15:04 psydroid4; primary schools mostly use Chromebooks here from what I've been told
15:04 bnchs__; the books also have a brief summary of the GNU project in the GIMP chapter
15:04 schestowitz-TR; in libya gnu is the government
15:05 schestowitz-TR; of national unity
15:05 XRevan86; SomeH4x0r: It got iffy
15:05 XRevan86; SomeH4x0r: The harsh thing is that all the forks kind of died out.
15:05 schestowitz; "All we can hope for is a few people still carrying this hardware to donate either time or hardware to aid in keeping these drivers building and running."
15:06 schestowitz; https://www.osnews.com/story/134516/numerous-linux-x11-display-drivers-can-no-longer-even-properly-build/
15:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: osnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.osnews.com/story/134516/numerous-linux-x11-display-drivers-can-no-longer-even-properly-build/
15:06 TR Bot; Linux/X11 display drivers can no longer even properly build OSnews
15:06 bnchs__; gnu/linux distributions didn't update audacity after the news
15:06 schestowitz; or maybe "big silicon" will ship newer hardware to micro larabel
15:06 psydroid4; the main thing is that the audacity source code itself is garbage and hard to work with
15:06 schestowitz; bnchs__: they last thing they want it to ADD a security problem
15:06 schestowitz; *is to
15:06 bnchs__; like arch gnu/linux they're still stuck in audacity 2.4.1, and most likely never update
15:07 psydroid4; basically the only thing you can do is rewriting the application in a sane way
15:07 psydroid4; which has been discussed in the tenacity chats
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15:08 XRevan86; bnchs__: Considering that the fork saviour is not coming, they will probably giving in and just strip away the nasty stuff.
15:09 XRevan86; * give in
15:09 bnchs__; i thought only parabola does that
15:10 TR News; As a coding language, C++ appeals to the ego, not the intellect | eFinancialCareers https://www.efinancialcareers.com/news/2022/02/c-coding-language-problems #efinancialcareers #cpp #programming
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15:10 TR Bot; a coding language, C++ appeals to the ego, not the intellect | eFinancialCareers
15:10 XRevan86; Audacity's upstream had some notable improvements with performance, it's hard to just ignore that forever.
15:10 SomeH4x0r; or remove the package, like they do sometimes
15:11 bnchs__; they can't
15:11 SomeH4x0r; I noticed some packages turning "external" sometimes
15:11 bnchs__; people rely on audacity for audio editing
15:11 TR News; Selling mass #surveillance as "green" (or energy-savings) https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/01/220131131920.htm
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15:11 TR Bot; greener smart cities with machine learning-based 'sleep schedules' -- ScienceDaily
15:12 TR News; #purdue reduced to #buzzwords and is now pushing "HEY HI" BS https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2022/Q1/the-brains-secret-to-lifelong-learning-can-now-come-as-hardware-for-artificial-intelligence.html
15:12 Alternative link; Cloudflare: purdue.edu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2022/Q1/the-brains-secret-to-lifelong-learning-can-now-come-as-hardware-for-artificial-intelligence.html
15:12 TR Bot; The brains secret to lifelong learning can now come as hardware for artificial intelligence - Purdue University News
15:13 bnchs__; " putting BSs to sleep makes their traffic logs unavailable, which also reduces the accuracy of traffic prediction. Is there a way to avoid this compromise between accuracy and sustainability?"
15:13 XRevan86; It's not like Audacity went full proprietary or something.
15:13 bnchs__; they normalized surveillance
15:14 TR News; Intel "spent billions on stock price support [sic] instead." = #intel defrauding shareholders. Buybacks are technically embezzlement. #fakeEconomy https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/31/intel_earnings_analysis/ see also http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
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15:14 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/31/intel_earnings_analysis/
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15:14 TR Bot; When an engineer is in charge: Intel under Pat Gelsinger The Register
15:14 TR Bot; Intel leaks - Techrights
15:14 schestowitz-TR; " accuracy and sustainability"
15:14 schestowitz-TR; SUSTAINABILITY
15:15 schestowitz-TR; greenwashing
15:15 schestowitz-TR; EPO now has a sustainability chief
15:15 schestowitz-TR; what they do all day?
15:15 schestowitz-TR; you tell me..
15:15 schestowitz-TR; maybe drafting and refining press releases...
15:15 schestowitz-TR; flying planes to places
15:15 psydroid4; washing themselves with the green stuff
15:15 schestowitz-TR; and then putting in their email signature
15:15 psydroid4; the green paper
15:15 schestowitz-TR; "do't print this; it harms the pkanet
15:16 schestowitz-TR; while they charge up some lithiaum battery on a small plane
15:16 schestowitz-TR; greenwashing has become the target of farce-bait
15:16 schestowitz-TR; even the young environmentalists mock the greenwash
15:16 schestowitz-TR; it'll backfire on fake leftists
15:16 schestowitz-TR; like biden
15:17 schestowitz-TR; who think greenwashing will fool us
15:17 schestowitz-TR; he signed off more coal or gas contracts than Trump, IIRC
15:17 psydroid4; what does that guy advise people to use instead of C or C++?
15:17 schestowitz-TR; EU now calls nuclear energy "green"
15:17 psydroid4; he never said anything about that in his blog
15:18 schestowitz; [13:16] NEWS #CommonDreams #greenwashing 'Disgrace': #EU Panned Over Plan to Label Gas, Nuclear Green https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/02/disgrace-eu-panned-over-plan-label-gas-nuclear-green
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15:18 TR Bot; 'Disgrace': EU Panned Over Plan to Label Gas, Nuclear Green
15:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/02/disgrace-eu-panned-over-plan-label-gas-nuclear-green
15:18 schestowitz; gas also
15:18 schestowitz; gas is green!!
15:18 activelow; "green" or "renewable" aren't qualifiers for the energy sector anyway. it is the costs of sourcing/mining, transport and storage of energy
15:18 schestowitz; burn it up, it's green!!
15:18 XRevan86; Pretty sure it's colourless.
15:18 XRevan86; Seems like EU got itself in a pickle, and now is trying to bend the rules to fix that.
15:18 activelow; and in particular the "green" ones are anything except "environmentally friendly"; "renewable" and "green" are propaganda scam and subsidy fraud
15:19 schestowitz; "sustainable" is empty
15:19 XRevan86; Not burning coal is still a win though.
15:19 schestowitz; has no actual meaning
15:19 schestowitz; maybe clothing better is "sustainable"
15:19 schestowitz; but that does not sell well, esp. if you wear older garments and blankets
15:20 activelow; sustainable, however, the "renewable" and "green" are propaganda scam nonetheless
15:20 activelow; in fact, "environmentally friendly" business is sanctioned
15:20 activelow; and cash is funneled elsewhere, where it does not benefit the climate
15:21 TR News; "A growing number of historically Black colleges and universities began Black history month in security lockdowns." https://www.delawarepublic.org/2022-02-01/black-history-month-opens-with-bomb-threats-against-hbcus
15:21 TR Bot; Black History month opens with bomb threats against HBCUs | Delaware First Media
15:21 activelow; meanwhile, i verified a vendor-independent option to compile GNU/Linux kernel and userspace with tcc
15:22 TR News; Insane price for a computer so crappy, with #microsoft #malware saddled onto it even if you do not want it https://www.notebookcheck.net/Beelink-GTR5-Ryzen-9-mini-PC-one-ups-almost-every-Intel-NUC-thus-far-in-raw-processor-performance.596511.0.html
15:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: notebookcheck.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.notebookcheck.net/Beelink-GTR5-Ryzen-9-mini-PC-one-ups-almost-every-Intel-NUC-thus-far-in-raw-processor-performance.596511.0.html
15:22 TR Bot; GTR5 Ryzen 9 mini PC one-ups almost every Intel NUC thus far in raw processor performance - NotebookCheck.net News
15:23 activelow; seems to me, proficient hackers had given up on that front long time ago: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/tinycc-devel/2005-01/msg00015.html
=> ↺ https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/tinycc-devel/2005-01/msg00015.html
15:23 TR Bot; Re: [Tinycc-devel] Tcc and Linux Kernel
15:23 activelow; https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/2/2/1786
=> ↺ https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/2/2/1786
15:23 Alternative link; Cloudflare: lkml.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/2/2/1786
=> ↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/2/2/1786
15:23 TR Bot; LKML: Michael Matz: Re: Alternative compilers to GCC/Clang
15:23 activelow; as far as "sustainability" and efficiency were concerned, that's past, long gone, with both IBM Wintel PC and GNU/Linux
15:24 TR News; Paid-for IBM puff piece; many self-described "journalists" are just lousy, reckless marketing people https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/02/03/as-kubernetes-matures-the-edge-needs-containment/
=> ↺ https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/02/03/as-kubernetes-matures-the-edge-needs-containment/
15:24 TR Bot; As Kubernetes Matures, The Edge Needs Containment
15:24 activelow; the last GNU compiler which was confirmed to bootstrap with tcc was gcc-2.9 (~16 years ago), and the last kernel was linux-2.4 at the same time
15:25 activelow; the testing of linux-4.6 with tcc 5 years ago didn't yield any desired result anymore
15:26 activelow; instead, rust-lang is on the agenda nowadays, after GNU/Linux vendor-locked into compilers (llvm/clang and >=gcc-4.9) already which i wouldn't accept anymore
15:26 TR News; In the 1990s penguins were widely known as a mascot for #linux and in recent years they got 'coopted' as same-sex symbol
15:26 bnchs__; why
15:26 bnchs__; why drag sexuality into software
15:26 schestowitz-TR; no
15:26 bnchs__; i mean animals
15:26 schestowitz-TR; it's not related to software
15:27 schestowitz-TR; it's just that when I look for news about penguins
15:27 schestowitz-TR; a lot of it pushes gender agenda/politics
15:27 schestowitz-TR; penguins have a lot to be said about them
15:27 schestowitz-TR; like the climate aspects
15:27 schestowitz-TR; I thiink this started about 5 or 10 years ago
15:28 schestowitz-TR; lots of clickbait
15:29 schestowitz-TR; well, tbh a lot of news in general became like that
15:29 schestowitz-TR; so maybe part of a broader trend
15:29 schestowitz-TR; I'm looking for gentoo news
15:32 TR News; Milford Public Library Hosts Basic Image Editing with GIMP, the Free Image Editor February 10 at 7pm https://news.hamlethub.com/milford/events/47332-basic-image-editing-with-gimp-the-free-image-editor-february-10-at-7pm
15:32 TR Bot; Milford Public Library Hosts Basic Image Editing with GIMP, the Free Image Editor February 10 at 7pm
15:33 bnchs__; at least it isn't photoshop
15:35 TR News; Weight matters https://nitter.eu/carygolomb/status/1489409865512628230 #nitter
=> ↺ https://nitter.eu/carygolomb/status/1489409865512628230
15:35 TR Bot; Cary Golomb (@carygolomb): "Vita means life #SteamDeck" | nitter
15:36 TR News; #gnu #linux powered, but #drm and #Surveillance https://www.businessinsider.com/google-stadia-stream-plan-partnerships-peloton-bungie-gaming-service-2022-2?r=US&IR=T
15:36 Alternative link; Cloudflare: businessinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessinsider.com/google-stadia-stream-plan-partnerships-peloton-bungie-gaming-service-2022-2?r=US&IR=T
15:36 TR Bot; Inside Google's Plan to Salvage Its Stadia Gaming Service
15:37 TR News; Web [sic] pioneer [sic]. Freeriding charlatan... https://www.fastcompany.com/90716841/tim-oreilly-on-web3 see http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/prof-moglen-at-oscon-speaking-to-oreilly-open-source-is-a-waste-of-time-distracts-from-software-freedom/
=> ↺ https://www.fastcompany.com/90716841/tim-oreilly-on-web3
=> http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/prof-moglen-at-oscon-speaking-to-oreilly-open-source-is-a-waste-of-time-distracts-from-software-freedom/
15:37 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fastcompany.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fastcompany.com/90716841/tim-oreilly-on-web3
=> ↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fastcompany.com/90716841/tim-oreilly-on-web3
15:37 TR Bot; Web pioneer Tim O'Reilly on Web3
15:37 TR Bot; Prof. Moglen at OSCON, Speaking to OReilly: Open Source is a Waste of Time (Distracts From Software Freedom) | Techrights
15:38 TR News; "in the United States 16% of households experience energy poverty as presently defined as spending more than 6% of household income on energy expenditures. More than 5.2 million households above the Federal Poverty Line face energy poverty, disproportionately burdening Black, Hispanic, and Native American communities." https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-27673-y
=> ↺ https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-27673-y
15:38 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nature.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-27673-y
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15:38 TR Bot; measurement strategy to address disparities across household energy burdens | Nature Communications
15:39 activelow; anyway, some Hacker from SUSE demonstrated, with tcc a minified linux-kernel could be compiled in less than 10s
15:39 activelow; the minified kernel i was compiling with gcc recently requires 30minutes
15:40 TR News; CISA Adds Eight Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog - HS Today https://www.hstoday.us/subject-matter-areas/cybersecurity/cisa-adds-eight-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-to-catalog/ #hstoday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/05/#latest
=> ↺ https://www.hstoday.us/subject-matter-areas/cybersecurity/cisa-adds-eight-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-to-catalog/
=> ↺ http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/05/#latest
15:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hstoday.us | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hstoday.us/subject-matter-areas/cybersecurity/cisa-adds-eight-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-to-catalog/
15:40 TR Bot; CISA Adds Eight Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog - HS Today
15:40 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
15:40 activelow; insofar, it is obvious, what the trade-offs are, with GCC/GNU/Linux, and since recently llvm/clang
15:40 gene; how evil am i for liking golang?
15:41 activelow; as far as GNU/GCC in comparison to TCC was concerned, same story here: gcc ~30minutes to compile itself, tcc ~1minute including various cross-compilers even
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15:42 psydroid4; making things only compilable with gcc is a push intended for selling faster hardware?
15:42 TR News; It is #GNU , not #Linux https://www.howtogeek.com/775824/how-to-use-the-linux-cut-command/ see http://techrights.org/2020/01/02/gnu-programs-as-linux-commands/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/10/rms-on-his-gnu-programs/
=> ↺ https://www.howtogeek.com/775824/how-to-use-the-linux-cut-command/
=> http://techrights.org/2020/01/02/gnu-programs-as-linux-commands/
=> http://techrights.org/2021/05/10/rms-on-his-gnu-programs/
15:42 TR Bot; How to Use the Linux cut Command
15:42 TR Bot; GNU Programs Arent Linux Commands But GNU Programs | Techrights
15:42 TR Bot; Richard Stallman on Writing rm, ls, and cp (Also Working on Bison) | Techrights
15:42 psydroid4; imagine an ARM SBC being seen as a speed demon all of a sudden
15:42 TR News; #scamcoin or #fakecoin would rhyme well with #facebook https://cointelegraph.com/news/rise-of-web3-metaverse-tokens-surge-as-meta-s-share-price-plunges
=> ↺ https://cointelegraph.com/news/rise-of-web3-metaverse-tokens-surge-as-meta-s-share-price-plunges
15:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cointelegraph.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cointelegraph.com/news/rise-of-web3-metaverse-tokens-surge-as-meta-s-share-price-plunges
15:42 TR Bot; Rise of Web3: Metaverse tokens surge as Metas share price plunges
15:42 gene; eyes that fancy intel asic fab getting deployed in Ohio
15:43 activelow; psydroid4: too it is political/strategic to vendor-lock into specific compilers and corporations;
15:44 activelow; same with golang, rust, and c++ (since when gcc is implemented in c++, and llvm/clang alike)
15:44 TR News; false, biased and antisemitic. = #israel uses smears again to place itself above criticism. #censorship https://english.aawsat.com/home/article/3447946/israel-calls-amnesty-not-release-apartheid-report
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15:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: aawsat.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://english.aawsat.com/home/article/3447946/israel-calls-amnesty-not-release-apartheid-report
15:44 TR Bot; Israel Calls on Amnesty Not to Release Apartheid Report | Asharq AL-awsat
15:44 activelow; gene: i do not appreciate the compiler required for golang, to begin there
15:45 TR News; The February 2022 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161131 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161131
15:45 TR Bot; The February 2022 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux Machines
15:45 gene; you like interpreted languages?
15:45 schestowitz; https://www.libyaobserver.ly/health/gnu-makes-coronavirus-vaccination-mandatory-country
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15:45 TR Bot; GNU makes Coronavirus vaccination mandatory in the country | The Libya Observer
15:45 schestowitz; RMS would agree
15:46 activelow; gene: thinking about it, i distinguish ahead-of-time and just-in-time compilation, with different trade-offs
15:46 gene; i like being able to hand folks binaries and and them just being able to work without having to install a bunch of other stuff to make it work
15:47 activelow; in between, run-time and compile-time performance all recent compilers miss the "sweet spot" by orders of mangitude of what's possible
15:47 gene; even more when the "bunch of other stuff" is eventually acquired by EvilCorp[Tm] eyes Java
15:47 TR News; RMS, brainwshed by the #billgates -owned Guardian: let's force everyone to pay for #patent #cartel https://www.libyaobserver.ly/health/gnu-makes-coronavirus-vaccination-mandatory-country GNU agrees (another GNU)
=> ↺ https://www.libyaobserver.ly/health/gnu-makes-coronavirus-vaccination-mandatory-country
15:51 bnchs__; gnu makes coronavirus vaccination mandatory?
15:51 schestowitz-TR; like they win in money
15:51 SomeH4x0r; > The Government of National Unity (GNU)
15:51 schestowitz-TR; who pays and how much?
15:51 schestowitz-TR; billgates already coirrupted that coun try
15:51 bnchs__; future of gnu if rms doesn't get unwashed
15:51 schestowitz-TR; literally bribed and attacked it
15:51 schestowitz-TR; to prevent it using gnu/linux iin olpc
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15:51 SomeH4x0r; what about GNU/FSF workers though?
15:54 activelow; it is noteworthy, GNU/Linux locked out tcc; and i haven't verified yet if gcc-4.7 could be bootstrapped with tcc since when last time this was confirmed 16 years ago already
15:54 activelow; see this, tcc was ~10x faster bootstrapping GNU/GCC: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/tinycc-devel/2005-09/msg00054.html
=> ↺ https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/tinycc-devel/2005-09/msg00054.html
15:54 TR Bot; [Tinycc-devel] GCC by TCC (some fixes)
15:55 activelow; the last candidate to consider is gcc-4.7 (written in C), initially released march 2012, a noteworthy anniversary to "celebrate"
15:56 bnchs__; "all citizens over the age of 12"
15:57 bnchs__; kids don't need vaccination, but what if we lock them down in their homes, give them junk food, and then they need the vaccine
15:57 TR News; What? You actually trust pushers of fake coins? https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202202/page02.html
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15:57 TR Bot; PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 2
16:01 TR News; #pclinuxOS mag editor: My wife was in quarantine for a breakthrough COVID infection (that me and the kids, thankfully, never showed any symptoms of having)." https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202202/editorial.html
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16:01 TR Bot; PCLinuxOS Magazine - Welcome From The Chief Editor
16:01 activelow; another noteworthy detail, the original author of tcc was associated with Ecole Polytechnic, Paris, and telecom; not IBM / Wintel / Redhat / Google / Satan
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16:05 activelow; GNU/Linux welcomed the latter, and expelled the former with their vendor-lock into whatever golang/rust/c++ and GCC/llvm represent
16:06 bnchs__; activelow what about a tiny c++ compiler
16:07 bnchs__; that is intended to bootstrap GCC
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16:08 gene; open source the vaccines?
16:08 bnchs__; free the vaccines
16:09 gene; i gotta get vaccinated for yellow fever
16:09 gene; ima probably travel to east africa in the near future
16:09 bnchs__; why
16:10 gene; creating memories; primarily, maybe some political fun; wouldn't be so hard to start a business there with their low gdp meaning workers are fairly cheap
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16:10 gene; [~$10-20 / day for labor cheap]
16:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 14.03 average k/sec., average swarm size 258.47
16:10 bnchs__; yes also the place to get beheaded
16:11 *kingoffrance ducks out of reflex
16:11 gene; the authoritarian regime mostly protects tourist, it's not central/north africa.. lol
16:11 bnchs__; oh really?
16:12 bnchs__; also stupid kid got trapped in a well
16:12 gene; yeah, mostly, like don't travel after dark, etc, etc.
16:13 gene; north africa; you got isis roaming about and whatnot
16:13 TR News; #geminispace growing: "We successfully connected recently to 1681 of them." gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi aporoaching 1,700 now.
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16:13 bnchs__; gene: it's not really isis
16:14 gene; central africa is pretty unstable due to their resources being exploited by private corporate industry; but things are sorting out
16:14 bnchs__; it's more about people with machettes mugging you for your money and phone
16:14 gene; avoid tigray?
16:14 gene; idk, there are unstable regions that you'd probably want to avoid
16:15 gene; tigray is a massive civil war in east africa currently ongoing where you'd probably be more likely to be mugged in that way [or just shot dead]
16:15 bnchs__; what i described is what happens in morocco
16:16 gene; mauritania is pretty scary as a whole to me
16:16 bnchs__; regardless of time of day it is, there's either gonna be a guy in a motorcycle swiping your phone off you, or that
16:16 gene; west sahara is pretty dangerous too
16:18 activelow; bnchs__: c++ didn't belong into critical base system components, which should have remained C99 standards compliant
16:18 activelow; i am thinking too, maybe GNU/FSF could swap their Logo, form the GNU to Baphomet
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16:27 activelow; with this new cult, syringes are handed out to followers; the licensing terms of BaphometOS/Linux are this: mandatory vaccination
16:31 TR News; "Facebook's "privacy policy" (there's an oxymoron) states that Facebook may collect information about you as you travel across the web, even if you don't have a #Facebook account. Now exactly how that's legal is beyond me, since non-users (hello! ... I'm over here!) never agreed to Facebook's " #privacy policy" or data collection mechanisms." https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202202/page04.html
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16:31 TR Bot; PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 4
16:35 activelow; anyway, next night i'll review some linux-4.6 kernel branch with patches for tcc, which demonstrated x86_64 booted with tccboot and qemu
16:36 TR News; #Skrooge Revisited: Tips For Beginners Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161132 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161132
16:36 TR Bot; Skrooge Revisited: Tips For Beginners | Tux Machines
16:36 XRevan86; Obvious spam on the freenode.net homepage for 4 days? Congratulations, now it's complete.
16:37 SomeH4x0r; updates?
16:37 XRevan86; SomeH4x0r: Just inevitable stagnation and death.
16:39 schestowitz; "OptymizeA "
16:40 schestowitz; sounds legit
16:40 schestowitz; like PIA
16:40 SomeH4x0r; what exactly?
16:41 XRevan86; schestowitz: Not as legitimate as Kape, but I'm sure they're working on it.
16:42 activelow; anyway, i am hesitating, because i am not too optimistic, given i am aiming for tinycc on bare-metal aarch64/32 and need kernel-5.10; and if this fails heavy intoxication with vodka is ahead, to forget about the lost love of the GNU
16:43 activelow; still got headeache from the session last night
16:44 *XRevan86 had no faith in those attempts to get Linux to compile on an old abandoned compiler.
16:45 SomeH4x0r; > abandoned | so let's make it "not abandoned"?
16:45 activelow; tcc isn't abandoned, and actively developed; it is BaphometOS/Linux at fault
16:45 XRevan86; It's like trying to get Nextcloud to work on PHP 5, ye sure can try, but the result will not be worth the effort.
16:45 activelow; no, it's not like this
16:46 SomeH4x0r; the issue is fake decentralization of development
16:46 XRevan86; SomeH4x0r: The steps to do so require working on the compiler, not on downgrading the compiled software.
16:46 activelow; https://youtu.be/iU0Z0vBKrtQ
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16:46 TR Bot; Labs Conference 2018 - Compiling the Linux kernel in a second (give or take) - YouTube
16:46 SomeH4x0r; development is centralized, and things become "abandoned" even if the people who are responsible for maintaining the repository quit
16:47 SomeH4x0r; and instead of making forks, people wait for them
16:47 SomeH4x0r; s/them/these people to respond/
16:48 XRevan86; activelow: Having the last release in 2017 sure is active.
16:48 SomeH4x0r; we need to change it, though no idea how. Allowing free-for-all write access will result in unstoppable troll attacks at certain point.
16:48 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22020526
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16:48 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/cmcqmizjssf81.jpg created on 2022-02-05 12:15:06.621705
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16:48 activelow; XRevan86: i checked-out tcc HEAD
16:49 XRevan86; MinceR: Crippling debt over teaching biology.
16:50 activelow; maybe, announce this on Optymize: low-cost dev 10cash/day, drunken and dis-illusioned, all he needs is a bottle of spirit to cope with software outdated for at least a decade
16:50 XRevan86; activelow: One commit in a month, that's exactly the pace I expect from an actively developed compiler that needs to catch-up to a lot.
16:51 activelow; i am more concerned about what's supposed to be fed into a C99 compiler: BaphometOS/Linux
16:52 XRevan86; Where do I get BaphometOS? Sounds radical.
16:52 MinceR; i'm afraid we'll have to make it
16:52 XRevan86; Will it come with glibc or musl?
16:53 MinceR; dunno
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16:54 TR News; 10,000 LOCs Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/05/10000-locs/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #programming | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/05/10000-locs/
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16:54 TR Bot; 10,000 LOCs | Techrights
16:57 XRevan86; activelow: I take it ye're religious?
16:58 XRevan86; That would explain the Bible-centric view on development of cultures and languages.
16:59 activelow; XRevan86: i am not affiliated with any church or corporate entity
17:00 XRevan86; activelow: Maybe a less formal organisation? Religious groups come in many shapes and sizes.
17:02 activelow; anyway, time for foodhunt to survive the next two nights hacking; i'll let you know if i made any progress
17:03 activelow; as said, i am not too optimistic anymore, given the fact proficient veterans did not succeed; and with the bad mood of mine i do not intend to infect anyone else with it
17:08 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22020511
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17:08 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/ivu5j8f1mqf81.png created on 2022-02-05 05:19:42.780363
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17:21 TR News; As shown above, based on our official page, today we crossed another noteworthy milestone; Were approaching 1,700 active capsules now, based on Lupas list and tally, which today says: We successfully connected recently to 1681 of them. Theres an announcement to be made quite soon regarding access to Gemini. Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/05/10000-locs/
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17:26 TR News; This Week in Right to Repair https://www.repair.org/blog/2022/2/5/y9rujoltklqedkgac68up26pk050lg
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17:26 Alternative link; Cloudflare: repair.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.repair.org/blog/2022/2/5/y9rujoltklqedkgac68up26pk050lg
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17:26 TR Bot; This Week in Right to Repair The Repair Association
17:32 XRevan86; https://smbc-comics.com/comic/data :D
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17:32 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Data
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17:45 MinceR; :)
17:49 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 14.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 258.53
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18:03 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/2202056
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18:03 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/wpa1saaiwrf81.jpg created on 2022-02-05 02:29:51.458182
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18:16 schestowitz; http://gemini.techrights.org/proxy?url=gemini://gemini.techrights.org/
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18:16 TR Bot; Gemini Proxy for Techrights
18:16 schestowitz; will add ssl later
18:16 schestowitz; coded in perl, still testing
18:17 schestowitz; MinceR: that's a good band
18:17 schestowitz; until they renamed
18:17 schestowitz; with the accent on o or u
18:21 XRevan86; Ariadne: Similitude is an impressive episode, I liked it.
18:23 XRevan86; And finally a tough morality episode where the morality isn't seriously ethically questionable like in some previously mentioned episodes.
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18:42 schestowitz; wb, lukaso666
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20:37 cGIfl300; Good evening
20:51 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/02/05/review-of-jerry-app-for-car-insurance-quotes/
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20:51 TR Bot; Review of Jerry app for car insurance quotes. BaronHK's Rants
20:58 cGIfl300; Stolen cars are better :)
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21:13 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/02/05/us-savings-bonds-are-at-a-25-year-high-are-these-a-good-alternative-to-stocks-right-now/
21:13 TR Bot; US Savings Bonds are at a 25 year high. Are these a good alternative to stocks right now? BaronHK's Rants
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21:20 AdmFubar; https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/10/investigative-reports/wall-streets-takeover-of-nature-advances-with-launch-of-new-asset-class/
21:20 Alternative link; Cloudflare: unlimitedhangout.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/10/investigative-reports/wall-streets-takeover-of-nature-advances-with-launch-of-new-asset-class/
21:20 TR Bot; Wall Streets Takeover of Nature Advances with Launch of New Asset Class
21:20 bnchs__; in all-online schools here, they use microsoft teams
21:23 DaemonFC; I got a small lawsuit settlement.
21:23 DaemonFC; About $100, so I bought another Savings Bond with it.
21:23 MinceR; Bond. Savings Bond.
21:24 DaemonFC; Exactly.
21:24 DaemonFC; I'm going to use our tax return to buy some as well.
21:24 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/220204119
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21:24 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/ha98z5hcksy21.jpg created on 2022-02-04 06:45:04.955268
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21:36 AdmFubar; https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-seeks-5-year-prison-sentence-for-nintendo-hacker-gary-bowser-220204/
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21:36 TR Bot; Seeks 5-Year Prison Sentence for Nintendo 'Hacker' Gary Bowser * TorrentFreak
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21:37 bnchs__; doug bowser vs gary bowser
21:42 DaemonFC; Gaaaaary!!!
21:42 DaemonFC; hahaha GARY!
21:43 DaemonFC; MinceR, Bethesda left a bug in the game where if you go into the vault full of Gary clones with a Stealth Boy on, they all speak normally to each other.
21:44 DaemonFC; They use random bandit dialog.
21:45 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/4th-covid-shot-who-will-need-another-booster-soon/
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21:45 TR Bot; 4th COVID shot: Who will need another booster soon | WGN-TV
21:45 SomeH4x0r; oh, again?
21:45 DaemonFC; As we approach this the third year of 15 days to slow the spread, when will it be time for the fourth dose of the two dose vaccine series (or the third dose of the one dose vaccine)?
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21:47 bnchs__; people thought there wouldn't be more than 2
21:48 AdmFubar; https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2022/feb/03/github-copilot-copyleft-gpl/
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21:48 TR Bot; If Software is My Copilot, Who Programmed My Software? - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy
21:48 bnchs__; microsoft programmed it
21:49 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 48.46 average k/sec., average swarm size 258.65
21:49 bnchs__; the copilot is microsoft's propriety
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21:49 MinceR; other people's code goes in, MICROS~'s code comes out
21:49 MinceR; it's like magic.
21:49 bnchs__; and it's also a secret free software poison, if you build your program with github copilot, then it will owned by microsoft
21:49 SomeH4x0r; cGIfl300: ^ this is the network I told you about earlier, people are talking about corporations' evils, including big services
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21:49 MinceR; s/'/1'/
21:50 AdmFubar; https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/nov/30/vizio-update-0/
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21:50 TR Bot; First Update on the Vizio lawsuit - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy
21:50 SomeH4x0r; like GitHub, the web itself, GAFAM, etc
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21:50 cGIfl300; On my side I like these services and I use them daily lol
21:50 DaemonFC; MICROS~1
21:52 AdmFubar; https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/dec/28/vizio-update-1/
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21:52 TR Bot; One More Small Step Toward The Right to Software Repair - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy
21:52 DaemonFC; https://www.exterminate-it.com/malpedia/file/micros~1.vbs
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21:52 TR Bot; MICROS~1.VBS and Other Malware Associated Files
21:52 cGIfl300; Be against is not bad itself as far as you offert solutions to scale ;)
21:53 DaemonFC; "Vizio's response to that complaint was to remove the case to federal court"
21:53 DaemonFC; Yes, that's usually what they motion to do when federal law is weaker.
21:53 SomeH4x0r; DaemonFC: is it a real entry, or the service accepts any string?
21:59 AdmFubar; https://www.repair.org https://www.repair.org/worst-in-show-2022
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21:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: repair.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.repair.org
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21:59 TR Bot; The Repair Association
21:59 TR Bot; Worst in Show 2022 The Repair Association
22:01 cGIfl300; Do you know how we made i3, i5, i7 ?
22:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz, The Illinois hotel industry says that due to winter weather, COVID, and the crime spree in Chicago, hotel occupancy rates are single digits there in many cases right now.
22:02 cGIfl300; 1. We made i7 2. We burn cores.
22:02 DaemonFC; And that they're having a worse time than the Great Depression trying to remain in business.
22:02 cGIfl300; The problem is we actually forge i7 12th generation.
22:03 DaemonFC; There's an extended stay hotel in Gurnee that's trying to stay in business by advertising itself as a "short term lease apartment" at this point with "all utilities and high speed internet included".
22:03 psydroid8; do you work at Intel?
22:03 cGIfl300; We cannot build a fundry each time we need an old processor consuming more energy for inefiscient results
22:04 cGIfl300; Repairing is cool, but repairing a soc is absolutly not ecologic
22:04 cGIfl300; and not realistic
22:04 cGIfl300; Unlike what media said, a processor is almost made of sand
22:05 *psydroid8 wonders if we are dealing with a bit here
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22:06 psydroid8; a bit of a bot
22:06 cGIfl300; repairing is cool, but asking to build extra useless componment is not reasonable
22:06 psydroid8;
22:08 bnchs__; is this a wintel bot
22:08 psydroid8;
22:09 psydroid8; It looks like it
22:09 bnchs__; i don't speak russian
22:09 psydroid8; We must have awaked them
22:09 psydroid8; It was a joke
22:09 psydroid8; It means "Putin goes to Intel"
22:09 cGIfl300; have fun here
22:09 cGIfl300; I4ll keep coding on the cloud :P
22:09 cGIfl300; I'll*
22:10 cGIfl300; above the sky ;)
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22:10 psydroid8; Clowns usually have their heads in the clouds
22:10 psydroid8; Awakened*
22:13 psydroid8; They must be really desperate to send some drunk person here
22:15 bnchs__; bots usually don't answer questions
22:16 XRevan86; *
22:16 psydroid8;
22:17 psydroid8; I just speak some basic Russian
22:18 bnchs__; are you russian?
22:18 psydroid8; No, I am Dutch
22:19 psydroid8; With ancestry from India
22:28 psydroid8; I completely missed out on what is happening "at" FOSDEM this weekend
22:35 DaemonFC; The Russians are in trouble without x86.
22:36 DaemonFC; They have some homemade CPUs but they all suck quite badly.
22:36 DaemonFC; Maybe that will change in time if they have to deal with severe sanctions, but for now it's kind of a problem for them.
22:37 activelow; iirc the russian elbrus was some ia64 type ISA, VLIW, which GNU/Linux abandoned support for recently
22:37 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/we-should-remove-masks-as-soon-as-we-can-pritzker-considering-easing-covid-19-restrictions-as-cases-drop/
22:37 TR Bot; We should remove masks as soon as we can: Pritzker considering easing COVID-19 restrictions as cases drop | WGN-TV
22:37 DaemonFC; schestowitz, The election is looming, so Prickster changes the science to justify no masks.
22:37 MinceR; i have altered the science. pray i do not alter it any further.
22:38 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/illinois-judge-blocks-school-mask-mandate-state-to-appeal/
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22:38 TR Bot; Illinois judge blocks school mask mandate, state to appeal | WGN-TV
22:38 DaemonFC; A downstate judge knocked over the requirement for kids to wear masks in school and has prevented the state from locking out unvaccinated teachers.
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22:39 DaemonFC; The ruling applies statewide, not just to the parents with kids in districts who sued the schools there.
22:40 DaemonFC; The judge's order says that Prickster's mask mandate ignores due process and that he can't order people to wear a mask unless the Illinois Department of Public Health issues a quarantine order against a particular person and gives them an opportunity to respond to it in court.
22:52 activelow; what's concerning here, in Nurnberg, the local government seemed to have scraped the database of registered inhabitants
22:52 activelow; then, sent a letter which arrived today, saying they didn't have access to yet couldn't sent the letter individually, although i am addressed personally by name with address, exactly the data which is registered
22:54 activelow; furthermore they argue it would be mRNA vaccine applied, regardless of any other available, none of which i need nor want anyway
22:56 bnchs__; pepsi have these water bottles that are fucking unopenable
22:57 MinceR; (video) (audio) https://nitter.net/obviousplant_/status/1408463786474819584#m
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22:57 TR Bot; obvious plant (@obviousplant_): "I found this commercial on an old VHS tape" | nitter
22:57 activelow; and of cause, they wouldn't know if i was vaccinated or not with whatever miracle boost tincture, because they didn't have access to any database
22:58 bnchs__; i like how a soda brand's water bottle is more unopenable than the soda brand's soda
22:59 activelow; to get vaccinated an appointment is mandatory, made online or by phone, and vaccination required personal ID with photo and medical record (vaccination book)
23:00 activelow; so, they got both, all data of registered inhabitants, vaccination appointments, and of cause there wasn't any reason to be concerned about anything
23:00 bnchs__; discrimination against unvaccinated?
23:01 activelow; don't know yet
23:01 activelow; furthermore, the national parliament hasn't decided yet, about mandatory vaccination
23:02 activelow; although, mandatory measle vaccination was introduced year 2020 already, next one is the covid miracle boost, with three or four or five injections
23:02 psydroid8; mandatory vaccination means they'll come and arrest you, if you don't get vaccinated voluntarily?
23:02 activelow; don't know yet, potentially this is the sanctions: loosing the job, no traveling with public transport, no entrance into public offices
23:03 psydroid8; I got 2 vaccines last year after getting ill with this virus and they only caused me even more problems
23:04 activelow; i would have ignored it, if this stupid letter from the city major had not arrived today
23:04 bnchs__; you have to either: get vaccinated with the vaccines made by the corporations, that have many countries (who have signed the pfizer deal) as their legal support, and you aren't allowed to report any side effects
23:04 bnchs__; or lose your job
23:05 psydroid8; as for the booster thing I haven't made any appointment yet, because I believe it will only make me feel horrible again
23:06 activelow; i didn't make any test yet, no vaccination, no registration, none of this, and if i don't have to i won't
23:07 activelow; only asked the local "vaccination center", why "recommended" vaccines were not provided there, with consultation, such as pneumococcal among many others - no answer, and that's it as far as my individual responsibilities are concerned
23:07 activelow; of cause, i do not hold any biontech stocks, to capitalize upon, such as german government
23:08 MinceR; > you aren't allowed to report any side effects
23:08 MinceR; [citation needed]
23:08 bnchs__; yes you can, but it will most likely get blackholed
23:12 bnchs__; our last independent news channel was bought out by the government, turned into a public channel that only shills the king nowadays
23:14 bnchs__; i remember when they would report on anything, regardless of how weird it was (weebs and shit).
23:17 psydroid8; are there still independent media that are online?
23:18 psydroid8; news or otherwise
23:18 schestowitz; bnchs__: same in hungary and Web sites, IIRC
23:18 schestowitz; ask MinceR
23:20 bnchs__; news channels are better when you have to pay for them
23:23 psydroid8; the only moroccan channel that I know of and that is provided with the internet/cable subscription is something called M2, which has a mix of programmes in Arabic and the news in French
23:23 DaemonFC; The "free" ones are free because the advertisers are paying.
23:23 DaemonFC; And then the "news" you hear is advertisements, or at least censored to exclude any criticism of the advertisers.
23:23 bnchs__; psydroid8, it's 2M
23:24 psydroid8; oh, from right to left
23:24 bnchs__; and it's free on cable (because the government is paying for it)
23:24 psydroid8; or I don't know
23:24 bnchs__; and since the gov is paying for it, they can cherrypick the news
23:25 bnchs__; some of the days they don't report shit, because of how strict the gov is
23:25 bnchs__; so they play films or commercials all day
23:27 MinceR; the worst is when you pay for it and still get ads
23:28 bnchs__; 2M did have commercials back when it was private, but it was only as a break, and they weren't obliged to follow the advertiser's rules
23:30 psydroid8; so things have become more strict in morocco too
23:31 psydroid8; what do all of these governments fear?
23:32 MinceR; people realizing that they don't need a government
23:32 MinceR; also, revolution
23:32 bnchs__; morocco has a king in charge, instead of voting and shit
23:34 *psydroid8 is in favour of revolution, but realised it could cause chaos in the aftermath
23:34 bnchs__; how do you do a revolution
23:35 bnchs__; when the cops have fire trucks and shit, while you only have signs and probably knives and less probably guns bought from the black market
23:35 bnchs__; they spray down protestors with firetrucks
23:37 psydroid8; it requires careful planning and execution and actual revolutionaries
23:41 psydroid8; people have become far too complacent and this is why governments have been able to take away more and more freedoms, often with the help of companies
23:42 bnchs__; people here are too dependent on facebook
23:42 bnchs__; and whatsapp and instagra
23:43 psydroid8; I think that is the case everywhere, but maybe more so in your country
23:44 psydroid8; Facebook has been losing users
23:45 psydroid8; but I don't know how to stay in touch with so many people in other ways
23:45 bnchs__; also mobile service providers have these special "social media" plans (thats basically a firewalled internet that you can only access social media)
23:46 psydroid8; we'll have to build our own decentralised networks but adoption is going to be big hurdle
23:47 SomeH4x0r; use social media to spread the word about other medium, make them switch
23:47 psydroid8; we don't seem to have such "social media" plans
23:48 psydroid8; the network effect usually causes them to stay
23:48 SomeH4x0r; they need to switch if they are "actual revolutionaries"
23:48 psydroid8; my relatives moved from WhatsApp to Signal
23:48 bnchs__; inb4 it was shit, and people would rather pay for the internet plan rather than the "social media" plan, which grants them more freedom
23:49 SomeH4x0r; I'd not trust big services. In general.
23:49 psydroid8; I don't know how to get them to move to something else again
23:49 bnchs__; people only used it because MSPs made it unlimited if you paid for it once
23:49 SomeH4x0r; Signal as well. At least requires a phone number.
23:49 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 15.16 k/sec., IPFS upstream 12.80 average k/sec., average swarm size 258.71
23:50 bnchs__; MSPs also have these service clients in whatsapp, that's basically your SIM settings in a whatsapp conversation
23:51 psydroid8; I don't know if such plans exist in European countries too
23:52 SomeH4x0r; if by "European" you mean geographical, they exist in Ukraine
23:52 psydroid8; only geographical
23:52 bnchs__; smarter people have actually used the unlimited "social media" plan by hosting a VPN in some google cloud, and using it
23:52 bnchs__; so you get free unlimited internet
23:53 bnchs__; it's flawed and they should have removed the plans altogether
23:53 SomeH4x0r; a VPN? or a proxy? do you get access to internal Google network by using it?
23:53 bnchs__; a proxy
23:53 bnchs__; in the google cloud
23:53 bnchs__; since google is whitelisted in the plan
23:53 SomeH4x0r; is it paid?
23:54 bnchs__; bypassing social media plans
23:54 DaemonFC; Okay, dinner is ready to put in. Air fryer reuben sandwiches and baked potato skin with cheddar and bacon.
23:54 DaemonFC; Mmmmm
23:55 psydroid8; I'm also getting hungry now, even though it's already past midnight
23:55 bnchs__; 5dh internet plan gets you 500mb
23:55 bnchs__; what do you think you can use that for
23:57 psydroid8; it's very little
23:58 AdmFubar; https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220116/13472348298/texas-town-to-start-issuing-traffic-tickets-text-message.shtml
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23:58 TR Bot; Town To Start Issuing Traffic Tickets By Text Message | Techdirt
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