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00:00 schestowitz-TR2; AND WIT H ROOTKITS TOO
00:00 schestowitz-TR2; IMPLEMENTING THE SAME LEVEL OF NASTINESS IN LINUX KERNEL IS HARDER
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00:00 schestowitz-TR2; AS THEY NEED TO OBFUSCATE THINGS
00:00 schestowitz-TR2; MANY COMPANIES FAIL AT SECRECY
00:00 schestowitz-TR2; BECAUSE WHEN THEY PUSH DRIVERS TO LINUX THEY RELVBEAL FUTURE PRODUCTS AND THEIR RESPECTGIVE SPECS
00:00 schestowitz-TR2; LIKEWIDE, A LOT OF THE dhcp STUFF AND OTHER drm WOULD NOT WORK WELL
00:01 schestowitz-TR2; IIRC, FIREFOX ADOPTED SOME THIRD-PARTY BLOB FOR EME
00:01 seepinto; cruise control
00:01 schestowitz-TR2; OOPS
00:01 psydroid4; it's not going to be because they suddenly are going to claim their freedom, but the screws are going to be turned that much harder
00:01 schestowitz-TR2; CAPS lock pressed
00:01 psydroid4; lol
00:01 MinceR; EVEN WITH CRUISE CONTROL YOU STILL HAVE TO STEER
00:01 schestowitz-TR2; I was loooking elsewhere
00:01 psydroid4; Adolf Ballmer would be proud
00:02 MinceR; 03 005418 < seepinto> why do gamers see anti-cheat as a pro? considering its invasive nature, it should be considered a con
00:02 MinceR; they don't think beyond the advertisement
00:03 TR News; This DIY power bank can deliver up to 60W and displays info in real-time https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/02/02/this-diy-power-bank-can-deliver-up-to-60w-and-displays-info-in-real-time/ #arduino
00:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/02/02/this-diy-power-bank-can-deliver-up-to-60w-and-displays-info-in-real-time/
00:03 TR Bot; This DIY power bank can deliver up to 60W and displays info in real-time | Arduino Blog
00:03 psydroid4; firefox just downloads Gulag's libwidevine
00:04 TR News; Christian Hergert: GSignalGroup and GBindingGroup https://blogs.gnome.org/chergert/2022/02/02/gsignalgroup-and-gbindinggroup/ #gnu #gtk #freesw #programming
=> ↺ https://blogs.gnome.org/chergert/2022/02/02/gsignalgroup-and-gbindinggroup/
00:04 TR Bot; GSignalGroup and GBindingGroup Zen and the Art of GNOME
00:04 schestowitz-TR2; it used to be adobe's blob
00:04 schestowitz-TR2; maybe reused from adobe trash's "protected content"
00:04 schestowitz-TR2; they basically passed the trash heap of flash into w3c
00:04 schestowitz-TR2; and then they call it "open web"
00:04 schestowitz-TR2; and "standards"
00:05 seepinto; most people are brainwashed to only think what they want them to think
00:05 *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights
00:06 psydroid4; you can see how DRMed games are moving to subscription services
00:07 seepinto; psydroid4: doesnt firefox download it only when you ask it to
00:08 psydroid4; seepinto, it does, yes
00:09 TR News; The #Wanhao Duplicator #CNC Heat Sealer | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/02/the-wanhao-duplicator-cnc-heat-sealer/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/03/#latest
=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/02/02/the-wanhao-duplicator-cnc-heat-sealer/
=> ↺ http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/03/#latest
00:09 TR Bot; Wanhao Duplicator CNC Heat Sealer | Hackaday
00:09 TR Bot; Index of /2022/02/03/
00:10 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding: Arduino, Zephyr SDK, Librem 14, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161031 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161031
00:10 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding: Arduino, Zephyr SDK, Librem 14, and More | Tux Machines
00:10 *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights
00:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 103.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 256.57
00:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 103.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 256.57
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00:13 schestowitz; The perception manipulation campaign (it certainly feels like one) keeps #Linux in the headlines in relation to #security issues that arent even in Linux; we know who stands to benefit from it and the people who promote these messages are sometimes ex-Microsofters Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/02/security-perception-manipulation/ #Techrights #microsoft
=> http://techrights.org/2022/02/02/security-perception-manipulation/
00:13 TR Bot; Darkening the Counterparts Reputation: Microsoft-Friendly (Sometimes Microsoft-Funded) Media Describing Every Security Issue Even Windows Issues as Linux | Techrights
00:13 schestowitz; psydroid4: they are chaining malice
00:13 schestowitz; drm+streaming+rootkits
00:14 schestowitz; all-in-one
00:14 schestowitz; spotify does this to music
00:14 schestowitz; you own nothing
00:14 schestowitz; you are spied on
00:14 schestowitz; I forgot the other thing I was going to say
00:14 schestowitz; but it's hard to keep track anymore
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00:14 schestowitz; today while recording the security video (above)
00:15 schestowitz; I forgot one example of FUD
00:15 schestowitz; I was going to mention it
00:15 schestowitz; then spend 2 hours trying to recall what that was
00:15 schestowitz; not that it matters much
00:15 schestowitz; but the point it,
00:15 schestowitz; the malice outpaces what you can feasibly recall
00:15 schestowitz; same in EPO coverage
00:15 schestowitz; too many scandalous things going on at once
00:15 schestowitz; soon we'll cover bribery of examines
00:16 schestowitz; pharma companies
00:16 schestowitz; *examiners
00:16 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding: Arduino, Zephyr SDK, Librem 14, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161031 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161031
00:16 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding: Arduino, Zephyr SDK, Librem 14, and More | Tux Machines
00:17 TR News; #Kernel: x86/AMD and Mesa/Zink Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161032 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161032
00:17 TR Bot; Kernel: x86/AMD and Mesa/Zink | Tux Machines
00:17 psydroid2; I think the big platforms for DRMed closed source games are trying to prevent their games from becoming commodotised
00:18 psydroid2; what if free software did the same thing for games that it has done for everything else
00:19 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=2022&image=faster_boot_v4_show
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00:19 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=2022&image=faster_boot_v4_show
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00:19 schestowitz; notice watermark
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00:19 schestowitz; "Photonix"
00:19 psydroid2; lots of people would stand to lose
00:19 activelow; just noticed again: x86/amd/gpu mesa/zink are just that, a drm platform and gigantic vendor lock-in
00:19 schestowitz; can you get me a web page with price of these chips?
00:19 psydroid2; lots of businesses would go extinct
00:19 activelow; which, i wasn't interested in any content, it is almost impossible to remove it
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00:21 psydroid2; https://wccftech.com/amd-epyc-milan-x-server-cpus-listed-preliminary-pricing-flagship-64-core-epyc-7773x-over-10000-us/
00:21 TR Bot; AMD EPYC Milan-X Server CPUs Listed With Preliminary Pricing - Flagship 64 Core EPYC 7773X For Over $10,000 US
00:21 psydroid2; next generation of AMD Epyc server processors
00:22 MinceR; https://obviousplant.tumblr.com/post/173897280928/bird-vengeance-shirt-now-available-sweatshirt
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00:22 TR Bot; Obvious Plant Bird Vengeance shirt now available! Sweatshirt,...
00:22 MinceR; now with pluton?
00:22 psydroid2; https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-raising-epyc-cpu-pricing-10-to-30-intels-sapphire-rapids-delayed-report
00:22 TR Bot; AMD Raising EPYC CPU Pricing 10 to 30%, Intel's Sapphire Rapids Delayed: Report | Tom's Hardware
00:23 psydroid2; hopefully
00:24 activelow; AMD always followed the ms/pentagon dictate
00:24 schestowitz; exiftool ./Desktop/Text_Workspace/images/image.jpg
00:24 schestowitz; ExifTool Version Number : 11.16
00:24 schestowitz; File Name : image.jpg
00:24 schestowitz; Directory : ./Desktop/Text_Workspace/images
00:24 schestowitz; File Size : 441 kB
00:24 schestowitz; File Modification Date/Time : 2022:02:03 00:22:29+00:00
00:24 schestowitz; File Access Date/Time : 2022:02:03 00:23:01+00:00
00:24 schestowitz; File Inode Change Date/Time : 2022:02:03 00:22:35+00:00
00:24 schestowitz; File Permissions : rw-r--r--
00:24 schestowitz; File Type : JPEG
00:24 schestowitz; File Type Extension : jpg
00:24 schestowitz; MIME Type : image/jpeg
00:24 schestowitz; JFIF Version : 1.01
00:24 schestowitz; Resolution Unit : inches
00:24 schestowitz; X Resolution : 72
00:24 schestowitz; Y Resolution : 72
00:24 schestowitz; Comment : CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 85.
00:24 *schestowitz compared to other images
00:25 psydroid2; AMD can only do this because they have effectively no competition
00:26 psydroid2; with ARM you have more options resulting in lower prices
00:26 schestowitz; psydroid2: that photo is michael's
00:26 schestowitz; so I assume he got that crate of CPUs
00:26 psydroid2; yeah
00:27 psydroid2; is Microsoft involved somehow too?
00:27 psydroid2; and if so, how would you prove that?
00:29 schestowitz; psydroid2: is this the same epyc model as in that page?
00:29 schestowitz; the one in toms?
00:29 psydroid2; https://www.amd.com/en/shop/us/Server%20Processors
=> ↺ https://www.amd.com/en/shop/us/Server%20Processors
00:29 schestowitz; 10k seems steep
00:29 psydroid2; these processors are good
00:29 psydroid2; and no competition
00:30 psydroid2; they can ask what they want
00:30 psydroid2; I can't tell, but I don't think those will be old processors
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00:32 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
00:33 psydroid2; https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ampere-altra-max-128-core-priced
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00:33 TR Bot; Arm-Based 128-Core Ampere CPUs Cost a Fraction of x86 Price | Tom's Hardware
00:34 schestowitz; psydroid2: http://techrights.org/2022/02/02/epyc-trove/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/02/02/epyc-trove/
00:34 TR Bot; AMD Apparently Sends Crates of CPUs to Phoronix (But Its Definitely Not a Bribe!) | Techrights
00:34 schestowitz; can you check?
00:34 schestowitz; maybe it should be reworded
00:35 schestowitz; in case there's another explanation for it
00:36 schestowitz; if they send out ONE chip for testing... OK
00:36 schestowitz; for testing
00:36 schestowitz; he keeps it
00:36 schestowitz; not ideal, but
00:36 schestowitz; that might be a 'necessary evil'
00:36 psydroid2; why so many?
00:36 schestowitz; if he received this kind of case, I worry greatly
00:37 schestowitz; he can buy a house with that
00:37 psydroid2; one server is enough to do testing
00:37 psydroid2; exactly
00:37 schestowitz; notice the watermark
00:37 psydroid2; looks like a bribe
00:37 schestowitz; I compared with exiftool
00:37 schestowitz; to other images
00:37 schestowitz; it's michael's camera
00:37 schestowitz; there is covid where he is, in his state
00:37 schestowitz; somewhere mid east iirc
00:38 psydroid2; but why would you be so public about it?
00:38 schestowitz; so he didn't just go and visit the local amd buddy
00:38 schestowitz; psydroid2: don't underestimate voyeurism
00:38 schestowitz; it's costly
00:38 schestowitz; we mentioned the gifting years ago
00:38 schestowitz; I was happy to let it slide
00:39 schestowitz; as long as it's "one of each"
00:39 schestowitz; so I took a screenshot of the one with watermark
00:39 schestowitz; no need for the exif thing
00:39 schestowitz; unless I'm pressured to justify the word
00:40 schestowitz; I use satire mostl
00:40 schestowitz; everyone knows ads pay little
00:40 schestowitz; except the advertising companies
00:40 schestowitz; they pass pennies downstream
00:40 schestowitz; and power bills went up sharply
00:40 schestowitz; those amd chips take lots of power
00:40 schestowitz; when scaled up
00:41 psydroid2; and had a great quarter and a great year
00:41 psydroid2; but the competition is coming again
00:41 schestowitz; maybe michael will get some angry emails from amd in the morning
00:42 TR News; #AMD Apparently Sends Crates of CPUs to #Phoronix (But Its Definitely Not a Bribe!) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/02/epyc-trove/ #Techrights #hardware #epyc | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/02/epyc-trove/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/02/02/epyc-trove/
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/02/epyc-trove/
00:42 TR Bot; AMD Apparently Sends Crates of CPUs to Phoronix (But Its Definitely Not a Bribe!) | Techrights
00:42 psydroid2; and take the picture offline?
00:42 schestowitz; too late
00:42 schestowitz; this brings a deja vu
00:42 schestowitz; but I cannot put my finger on it
00:42 schestowitz; like people posting photos of things that make companies panic
00:42 schestowitz; "teke it down!"
00:43 schestowitz; cannot remember what it was... but it happened years ago
00:44 psydroid2; AMD knows what is happening in the wider market
00:44 schestowitz; it looks like it might be 2 crates
00:44 schestowitz; one on top of another
00:44 schestowitz; they don't send these to residential places
00:44 schestowitz; but to high-profile datacentres
00:44 psydroid2; every big company is working on its own server processor
00:44 schestowitz; with million-dollar loans
00:44 schestowitz; like server farms and stuff with high-power facilities
00:45 schestowitz; techrights is on a 92-core processor iirc
00:45 psydroid2; AMD's market may shrink substantially over the next few years
00:46 schestowitz; they rely on heavy and big
00:46 psydroid2; that can't be AMD then
00:46 schestowitz; but not 'agile'
00:46 schestowitz; you might be better off with many swappable smaller ones
00:46 schestowitz; more fault tolerant
00:46 schestowitz; HA and all
00:46 schestowitz; load balancing for computing loads
00:47 schestowitz; and in case of defects you don't discard the whole lot
00:47 schestowitz; just the bad parts
00:47 schestowitz; that's what they refer to as "modularity" in intel now
00:47 schestowitz; but it sucks
00:47 schestowitz; and sucks power, too
00:48 schestowitz; psydroid2: anyhoooo... brace for spin
00:48 schestowitz; I think spinning that post will be hard
00:48 schestowitz; maybe they'll hope nobody will see or pay attention
00:49 psydroid2; I'm surprised because with Mate for the first time my "crappy and slow" (in John "Maddog" Hall's words) ARM SBC can run a full desktop
00:49 schestowitz; yes, what we said a year ago
00:49 schestowitz; after end of jan when schnieder put microsoft in all raspis
00:49 schestowitz; from the 'back doors
00:49 schestowitz; raspi had entered windows territoriy
00:49 schestowitz; with rasp 400
00:49 schestowitz; and microsoft cannot allow that
00:49 psydroid2; and that's basically the worst ARM64 hardware you were ever able to buy
00:50 schestowitz; it needs to become microsoft
00:50 schestowitz; they cnanot make a vista 11 machine at $75 a pop
00:50 schestowitz; or 75 pounds
00:50 schestowitz; rianne wants to buy one, says it's almost 100 now in online shops
00:50 schestowitz; we narrowed it down to 2 shops now
00:51 schestowitz; "- Return To Article"
00:51 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=2022&image=faster_boot_v4_lrg.co.uk
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00:51 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=2022&image=faster_boot_v4_lrg.co.uk
00:51 TR Bot; Image (Faster Boot V4)
00:51 schestowitz; "Article Not Available."
00:51 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=2022&num=1
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00:51 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=2022&num=1
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00:51 TR Bot; Hardware Reviews, Articles, & Gaming - Phoronix
00:51 psydroid2; I've caught some wind of a Raspi5 being in development with a possible release this year or next year
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00:53 psydroid2; he seems to be paying attention to what you do
00:53 psydroid2; it was there just a few minutes ago
00:54 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=2022&image=intel_sandy_alder_lrg
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00:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=2022&image=intel_sandy_alder_lrg
00:54 schestowitz; see rack
00:54 TR Bot; Image (Intel Sandy Alder)
00:54 schestowitz; 2022
00:54 schestowitz; for each intel "core" there's a drawer
00:54 psydroid2; raspi4 is just as fast as a low-end Intel board or laptop from a few years ago at double or quadruple the price
00:55 psydroid2; that's why I ran geekbench a few days ago
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00:56 psydroid2; https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/12535692
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00:56 TR Bot; HP HP Notebook - Geekbench Browser
00:56 schestowitz; identical exif data
00:56 psydroid2; my laptop
00:56 schestowitz; and you see michael's hand
00:56 schestowitz; so it's his
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00:57 schestowitz; EPYC^
00:57 schestowitz; File Modification Date/Time : 2022:02:03 00:54:57+00:00
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00:57 schestowitz; ^ Core
00:57 schestowitz; Comment : CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 85.
00:58 psydroid2; raspberry Pi 4
00:58 psydroid2; https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=Raspberry+Pi
=> ↺ https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=Raspberry+Pi
00:58 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi - Geekbench 5 CPU Search - Geekbench Browser
00:58 TR News; xkcd: Control Group https://xkcd.com/2576/ #xkcd
00:58 TR Bot; Control Group
00:58 Alternative link; Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2576/
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00:58 schestowitz; https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/415847
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00:58 Alternative link; Cloudflare: entrepreneur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/415847
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00:58 TR Bot; What Investment Can Top Microsoft Before Windows's Release? This One Just Might.
00:58 psydroid2; so you see similar singlecore performance
00:58 schestowitz; spammy?
00:59 psydroid2; but 4 cores for raspi4 vs 2 cores in my laptop
00:59 psydroid2; the raspi4 must already be nice to work with
01:00 psydroid2; with adequate applications such as Falkon and hexchat running on it
01:02 TR News; "At the end of these two terms, I decided to leave the GNOME Foundation board, as I felt like I had accomplished what I had to accomplish" https://fortintam.com/blog/2016-retrospective/ http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation
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=> http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation
01:02 TR Bot; Year MMXVI in 1 minute The Open Sourcerer
01:02 TR Bot; GNOME Foundation - Techrights
01:02 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161033 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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01:02 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
01:06 MinceR; (cat) (audio) https://imgur.com/t/cats/dL3zh1R
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01:06 TR Bot; yummy zing! of electricity - Album on Imgur
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01:07 TR News; Over a decade ago #AMD earned some notoriety for the way it was schmoozing bloggers, so we don't rule out anything... Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/02/epyc-trove/ #Techrights #hardware #epyc #oops | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/02/epyc-trove/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/02/02/epyc-trove/
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/02/epyc-trove/
01:07 TR Bot; AMD Apparently Sends Crates of CPUs to Phoronix (But Its Definitely Not a Bribe!) | Techrights
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01:10 schestowitz; MinceR: that's a nice machine
01:10 schestowitz; licking the laptop
01:10 schestowitz; almost looks like a real cat
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01:12 schestowitz; View Post
01:12 schestowitz; image.php?id=2022&image=faster_boot_v4_med.jpg
01:12 schestowitz; That suitcase must be worth the price of an apartment!
01:12 schestowitz; Finally the contents of Marsellus Wallace's briefcase!
01:12 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1306106-parallel-x86_64-cpu-bringup-linux-patches-revised-for-quicker-boot-times
01:12 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1306106-parallel-x86_64-cpu-bringup-linux-patches-revised-for-quicker-boot-times
01:12 TR Bot; x86_64 CPU Bringup Linux Patches Revised For Quicker Boot Times - Phoronix Forums
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01:13 schestowitz; "1 like"
01:14 schestowitz; only the comments that speak of the price got a "like"
01:15 activelow; how much is it?
01:15 schestowitz-TR2; http://techrights.org/2022/02/02/epyc-trove/
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01:16 schestowitz; I've just logged in
01:16 schestowitz; VERY old account
01:16 schestowitz; OK, this thread is not locked
01:16 schestowitz; but I won't comment on it
01:17 activelow; 10k per chip
01:17 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/crime/mother-sibling-officially-charged-in-6-year-old-damari-perrys-death/
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01:17 TR Bot; Mother, sibling officially charged in 6-year-old Damari Perrys death | WGN-TV
01:18 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: styop
01:18 schestowitz-TR2; stop
01:18 schestowitz-TR2; stay on topic
01:18 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1306106-parallel-x86_64-cpu-bringup-linux-patches-revised-for-quicker-boot-times?view=media
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01:18 TR Bot; x86_64 CPU Bringup Linux Patches Revised For Quicker Boot Times - Phoronix Forums
01:19 activelow; lol
01:19 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2019/10/31/purism-false-promises/
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01:19 TR Bot; Purisms Problems Purely Boil Down to Trust and False Promises | Techrights
01:19 schestowitz; "
01:19 schestowitz; But apparently it gets yet worse. This is the part which is mostly speculative. From what I heard, she said, Purism money is now going to Forbes and social media campaigns without the transparency of what is really happening. Phoronix is one of their media outlets.
01:19 schestowitz; I can believe the part about Forbes, knowing how theyre manipulated. But Im not sure about Phoronix.
01:19 schestowitz; Media manipulation is possible, I responded, but I wont vouch for it. Michael Larabel isnt perfect, I often wonder what he does with hardware shipped to him (among other things), but theres no evidence they pay him or are in cahoots, so that seems unfair. Please dig further with your contacts. Eventually I will write about this.
01:19 schestowitz; "
01:19 schestowitz; "
01:19 schestowitz; AnonymousFor the sake of accuracy lets just assume at least for now that Phoronix covers Purism stuff because Phoronix readers care about it. That seems a lot more plausible to me
01:19 schestowitz; As we already are pretty certain, she said, that Forbes takes money I mean, just even looking at the content Forbes puts out about certain tech is telling. Phoronix was a question, but is looking more and more like a media outlet that takes money too based on the Purism story.
01:19 schestowitz; Phoronix recently did a story thats actually an interview with Purism folks. But nothing suggested that it was promotional. Nothing that I could see.
01:20 schestowitz; "
01:21 schestowitz; such photos show too much of the underbelly
01:21 schestowitz; like many of the same item
01:21 schestowitz; like photonix runs a shop
01:21 schestowitz; no need for this in the context of benchmarking
01:21 schestowitz; for the benchmark one of each should surffice
01:22 schestowitz; for PTS, the online test platform, I doubt much are needed either
01:22 schestowitz; because you need to run a test
01:22 schestowitz; not compute on this thing all day long
01:22 schestowitz; it's not a computing farm
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01:23 psydroid2; I have one of each system in general
01:24 schestowitz-TR2; not THOSE systems
01:24 psydroid2; not tends or hundreds
01:24 schestowitz-TR2; and not this high end
01:24 psydroid2; tens*
01:24 schestowitz-TR2; anywayl, I've long defended michael
01:24 schestowitz-TR2; but am starting to sour a bit
01:25 schestowitz-TR2; he asks readers for money
01:25 schestowitz-TR2; and then he builds himself a million dollar DC
01:25 activelow; selling those EPYCs isn't easy, who got 10K to spare?
01:25 activelow; i haven't, add to this mainboard and whatever else, besides i wouldn't want such a piece, not as a present
01:26 schestowitz-TR2; torvalds was shilling threadripper
01:26 psydroid2; it's almost as if phoronix is a side-business to what really brings in the money
01:26 schestowitz-TR2; mayebe amd even pushed one his way
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01:26 activelow; besides, an a53 quadcore SBC costs ~30 plus tiny case plus power adapter: ~50cash, and that's a high performance server
01:27 activelow; too raspberry had demonstrated, they can serve dozens of thousands of requests, with a tiny cluster of PIs
01:28 activelow; otherwise, i'm not too excited about ARM either
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01:32 psydroid2; clusters of SBCs or compute modules
01:32 psydroid2; are going to be very powerful
01:33 schestowitz-TR2; not so powerful as incentive
01:33 schestowitz-TR2; x86 crates are worth more
01:34 schestowitz-TR2; larabel very rarely benchmarks these
01:34 schestowitz-TR2; btw
01:34 psydroid2; because he knows the results are going to be unfavourable to x86
01:34 schestowitz-TR2; to be clear
01:34 schestowitz-TR2; this isn't about jealousy
01:34 schestowitz-TR2; it's about integrity
01:35 schestowitz-TR2; and phoronix seems to be losing it
01:35 schestowitz-TR2; for me anyway/at least
01:35 psydroid2; I saw it a long time ago
01:35 schestowitz-TR2; it was there
01:35 schestowitz-TR2; but this is a whole new level
01:36 psydroid2; even anandtech had more balanced coverage
01:36 schestowitz-TR2; unless he intercepted a shipment to some datacentere
01:36 schestowitz-TR2; iirc there used to be trustedrevioew
01:36 psydroid2; especially with Andrei Frumusanu doing benchmarks and technology overviews as a chip designer
01:37 schestowitz-TR2; and it was haredware-focused
01:38 psydroid2; I think incentives to many hardware sites are making the rounds behind the scenes
01:39 psydroid2; even the ones that were traditionally not focused on x86
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01:39 schestowitz-TR2; this isn't even "for review"
01:39 psydroid2; I think x86mageddon is coming
01:39 MinceR; https://obviousplant.tumblr.com/post/173550108093/motorcycle-hand-signals
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01:39 TR Bot; Obvious Plant Motorcycle hand signals
01:39 schestowitz-TR2; it's a whole new level
01:39 schestowitz-TR2; unless there's some amazon explanation
01:40 schestowitz-TR2; "I omly took one and sent on the package to the next reviewer"
01:40 psydroid2; yeah, right
01:40 schestowitz-TR2; "it's not what it looks like!"
01:40 schestowitz-TR2; "it didn't even taste good, I swear!!'
01:40 psydroid2; "show me what's in your pockets"
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01:42 psydroid2; I also read that up to 50% of all new Amazon EC2 instances may be Graviton2
01:42 schestowitz-TR2; I shouldsd screenshot that focum thread
01:43 schestowitz-TR2; in case it gets removed later
01:43 psydroid2; with Graviton3 coming later this year
01:43 psydroid2; Microsoft also working on ARM processors
01:44 schestowitz-TR2; microsoft is working?
01:44 schestowitz-TR2; Mirosoft Works(r)
01:44 psydroid2; so where will Intel and AMD get their precious revenue from
01:44 schestowitz-TR2; steam deck
01:45 psydroid2; gaming companies
01:45 psydroid2; every tech company is going to become a gaming company
01:45 psydroid2; big tech
01:46 psydroid2; big gaming tech
01:46 schestowitz-TR2; big bailout :-)
01:46 schestowitz-TR2; big pentagon contract
01:46 schestowitz-TR2; "big government"
01:46 psydroid2; :)
01:46 schestowitz-TR2; "big debt"
01:46 schestowitz-TR2; "big taxpayer"
01:46 schestowitz-TR2; "bi favour"
01:46 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 150.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 256.56
01:46 schestowitz-TR2; bigger campaign contributions
01:46 MinceR; yuge
01:47 schestowitz-TR2; too big to fail
01:47 schestowitz-TR2; biden did a deal with intel
01:47 schestowitz-TR2; to usa-wash their made-in-china chips
01:48 schestowitz-TR2; fake economy:
01:48 schestowitz-TR2; we taker loans from china
01:48 schestowitz-TR2; and ksa
01:48 schestowitz-TR2; and then we use the loans to subsidise foxconn
01:48 schestowitz-TR2; in "usa"
01:48 schestowitz-TR2; china money comes in
01:48 psydroid2; we don't need American tech anymore
01:48 schestowitz-TR2; as loans
01:48 schestowitz-TR2; gets funneled into chinese brands
01:48 schestowitz-TR2; capitalism, Inc.
01:48 psydroid2; that's the big takeaway
01:49 schestowitz-TR2; wait
01:49 schestowitz-TR2; now they ban
01:49 schestowitz-TR2; ban huawei
01:49 schestowitz-TR2; soon xiaomi
01:49 schestowitz-TR2; bad, bad naughty
01:49 schestowitz-TR2; they spy
01:49 schestowitz-TR2; like gchq does
01:49 schestowitz-TR2; and nsa
01:49 schestowitz-TR2; they are catching up
01:49 schestowitz-TR2; we must BAN BAN BAN
01:49 schestowitz-TR2; CAPITALISM = FREE MARKET
01:49 schestowitz-TR2; except...
01:49 schestowitz-TR2; chooooina
01:50 psydroid2; the funny thing is that Europe has it all
01:51 schestowitz-TR2; europe has its own sweatshops
01:51 schestowitz-TR2; unlike usland
01:51 schestowitz-TR2; we use cheap labour in eastern europe
01:51 schestowitz-TR2; for assembly of carsd,f fruit pickikng etc
01:52 MinceR; orbanistan
01:52 MinceR; trying to beat red china at cheapness of slave labor
01:52 MinceR; what a great strategy.
01:53 schestowitz-TR2; won't work
01:53 schestowitz-TR2; even china has its outside slave economies
01:53 schestowitz-TR2; like vietnam
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01:53 schestowitz-TR2; because chinese labour became too greedy
01:53 schestowitz-TR2; wants $2 per hour
01:54 psydroid2; lechistan + orbanistan = ?
01:54 schestowitz-TR2; that's more than enouygh for rice and waqter
01:54 schestowitz-TR2; so they send it to outskirts of china
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01:55 MinceR; obviously
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01:56 psydroid2; someone in Poland told me that 5 an hour was a lot of money and 2 was normal
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01:57 psydroid2; that's what my niece earns working at a supermarket over here
01:58 schestowitz-TR2; and power bills are a huge chaunk of expenses
01:58 schestowitz-TR2; so they protest when that cost goes up
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01:59 schestowitz-TR2; should we stop linking to phoronix until some convincting clarification?
01:59 psydroid2; so you study, get a degree to work as a software engineer in orbanistan and get 5-10 an hour
01:59 schestowitz-TR2; *convincing
01:59 schestowitz-TR2; not convicting
01:59 psydroid2; Michael the Convict
01:59 schestowitz-TR2; I work from home for about 15 euros an hour
02:00 psydroid2; The Godfather Part 4
02:01 psydroid2; normal pay would be a bit more, but the slavery aspect is strong in eastern europe
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02:01 schestowitz-TR2; OK, I will ask in the forums
02:01 psydroid2; in China and the rest of Asia obviously even more so
02:03 psydroid2; Don Michael Phorleone
02:03 schestowitz; "What is going on here? Michael, those chips cost a furture and are not needed in these quantities for the purpose of testing/comparing. Who sent these? Please clarify."
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02:03 psydroid2; with his suitcase full of tech gold
02:03 schestowitz-TR2; typo in fortune
02:04 psydroid2; you can edit it, I think
02:04 schestowitz; "Joined: 01 June 2007"
02:04 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/forums/member/3537-schestowitz
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02:04 TR Bot; Profile - Phoronix Forums
02:04 schestowitz; I can
02:04 schestowitz; "Unapproved"
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02:04 schestowitz-TR2; so 15 years later I am still not visible, by default?
02:05 schestowitz-TR2; no "edit" option
02:05 schestowitz-TR2; and it is not visible yet
02:05 schestowitz-TR2; are they all moderated?
02:05 schestowitz-TR2; or just this thread?
02:05 psydroid2; "A furtive fortune: an Epyc adventure"
02:06 schestowitz-TR2; I will check back later
02:06 schestowitz-TR2; preparing for the worst
02:06 psydroid2; maybe try a comment on another visible article
02:06 schestowitz-TR2; link botcott
02:06 schestowitz-TR2; associating with such a think is not good for us
02:07 schestowitz-TR2; *thing
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02:07 schestowitz-TR2; psydroid2: yes, I thought about trying another articler
02:07 psydroid2; I saw its importance waning
02:08 psydroid2; less and less of his articles mattered to what I was seeing and doing
02:08 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1306237-raspberry-pi-s-raspbian-os-finally-spins-64-bit-version/page2
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02:08 TR Bot; Pi's Raspbian OS Finally Spins 64-bit Version - Phoronix Forums
02:08 schestowitz; "
02:08 schestowitz; According to the wikipedia article, ThreadX actually runs on the Pi's GPU:
02:08 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThreadX#Products_using_it
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02:08 TR Bot; ThreadX - Wikipedia
02:08 schestowitz; If that's true, then 32-bits vs 64-bits is almost a non-issue, since it's on a completely different processor.
02:08 schestowitz; "
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02:09 schestowitz; The bigger problem with the pi, this Microsoft thing inside the chip aside, was the addition of packages.microsoft.com (proprietary software), without consent, to all raspi OS devices one year ago (end of January)
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02:10 schestowitz; OK, this too is unapproved
02:10 schestowitz; so maybe it is not thread-speciific
02:11 psydroid2; but everything is moderated beforehand
02:11 psydroid2; so it's more like Michael and friends
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02:12 schestowitz-TR2; now it is approved
02:12 schestowitz-TR2; all of them
02:13 schestowitz-TR2; let's see if I receive a reply
02:13 schestowitz-TR2; I shall tke screenshots just in case
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02:14 TR Bot; Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines
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02:15 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: Hackaday and Steam Deck Only Has 200 Verified Games | Tux Machines
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02:15 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
02:15 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2008/11/09/bribe-for-vista-7-review/
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02:15 TR Bot; Tim Anderson Received Bribe for Vista 7 Review | Techrights
02:16 schestowitz; each of these chips cost more than a laptop
02:16 schestowitz; if the chip was one in quality
02:16 schestowitz; and cost $300, OK...
02:16 schestowitz; for review
02:16 schestowitz; maybe to cover the cost of time, effort
02:16 schestowitz; but this is like $300,000
02:16 schestowitz; 1000 times beyond what's acceptable or reasonable
02:16 schestowitz; I expect him to lie like the Microsofters did
02:16 schestowitz; saying it was "on loan"
02:17 schestowitz; and that they would return it
02:17 schestowitz; only because they got caught
02:17 schestowitz; Microsoft did the same with Vista
02:17 schestowitz; Edelman arranged the bribes
02:17 psydroid2; AMD not wanting reviewers to run GNU/Linux on their laptops is a big reason to stay away from their hardware
02:17 schestowitz; Linux FOundation got stuffed by Edelman too
02:17 schestowitz; and OpenJS
02:17 schestowitz; people from edelman
02:17 schestowitz; former CMO of LF was from Edelman also
02:18 psydroid2; I remember when those laptops were sent out
02:19 schestowitz-TR2; vista7?
02:19 psydroid2; I think so, yes
02:19 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2008/11/10/summary-of-the-ms-bribed/
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02:19 TR Bot; Partial Index: Summary of Bribed Sites, Journalists, and Bloggers (Vista 7) | Techrights
02:19 schestowitz; those are just the "known" ones
02:19 schestowitz; they still do this
02:19 schestowitz; microsoft learned that crime pays off
02:19 schestowitz; no punishment
02:19 AdmFubar; was it really cracked? https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/cryptocurrency/wormhole-platform-hacked-to-steal-326-million-in-crypto/
02:19 Alternative link; Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/cryptocurrency/wormhole-platform-hacked-to-steal-326-million-in-crypto/
02:20 TR Bot; Wormhole platform hacked to steal $326 million in crypto
02:20 schestowitz; and no consequences other than maybe some bad PR afterwards
02:22 psydroid2; crime first, pay possible fine later
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02:28 schestowitz-TR2; I''ve just come back from the kitchen, was thinking
02:28 schestowitz-TR2; unless michael tuns me someone,
02:28 schestowitz-TR2; what we have here is a situation like,
02:29 AdmFubar; I thought I smelled something burning! ;)
02:29 schestowitz-TR2; phoronix, gold sponsor, AMD: $500,000
02:29 schestowitz-TR2; excepty:
02:29 schestowitz-TR2; 1) it's not disclosed
02:29 schestowitz-TR2; 2) he covers AMD
02:29 schestowitz-TR2; 3) when covering AMD the disclosure is missing
02:31 schestowitz-TR2; he read my messages
02:31 schestowitz-TR2; until someone moderates the forums for him
02:31 schestowitz-TR2; how long shoulkd I give him to reply|?
02:32 psydroid2; he's probably thinking of ways to spin this
02:33 schestowitz-TR2; he ill
02:33 schestowitz-TR2; will
02:33 schestowitz-TR2; i can follow up now
02:33 schestowitz-TR2; like, i want to seee the agrrement, dated
02:33 schestowitz-TR2; he might say it's "on loan" from AMD
02:33 schestowitz-TR2; and will be returned when he is done with it
02:33 schestowitz-TR2; that's what the Microsoft liarsd said
02:33 schestowitz-TR2; changing the story in vitro
02:34 schestowitz-TR2; let me follow up
02:36 schestowitz; Sorry about the latter message, posted in the wrong thread by accident, but I still need a reply to my first query. I've linked to Phoronix literally tens of thousands of times and defended it a lot from its critics. I need to see the AMD contract by which this transaction was done, dated too (to avoid it being revised in a face-saving exercise).
02:37 schestowitz-TR2; I will give him 8 hours after this passed moderation
02:37 schestowitz-TR2; he does not sleep much
02:37 schestowitz-TR2; should not need extra time to issue waffle
02:37 schestowitz-TR2; message approved
02:38 psydroid2; 8 hours seems fine
02:38 psydroid2; I wanted to say a few hours
02:38 schestowitz-TR2; we have voting today
02:38 schestowitz-TR2; local elections
02:38 schestowitz-TR2; I dopn't wan tto give him enoughn t time to contact HR etc. at AMD
02:38 schestowitz-TR2; to corroborate some "Story"
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02:40 TR News; Mechanical keyboards: Pulsar PCMK | There and back again
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02:40 psydroid2; I think the story is already clear, unless he has a very good reason/excuse for this photo
02:40 TR Bot; Mechanical keyboards: Pulsar PCMK | There and back again
02:40 TR News; "I connected it to my Linux system and started typing around. And first of all, the typing experience was nice" https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/02/mechanical-keyboards-pulsar-pcmk/
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02:40 psydroid2; still looks like "don't compare us to ARM, please"
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02:41 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, February 02, 2022
02:41 psydroid2; "we know we are worse, but we need the money"
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02:42 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, February 02, 2022
02:43 TR News; Cannot criticise bad code anymore? http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-020222.html#tFeb%2002%2023:39:21
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02:46 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 141.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 256.56
02:47 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/ChicagoSuburbs/comments/siwz13/one_of_us_one_of_us/
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02:47 TR Bot; One of us. One of us. : ChicagoSuburbs
02:48 DaemonFC; Just give the snow and ice in the wheel wells a few good kicks and it usually falls right out.
02:49 schestowitz-TR2; odd topic
02:49 schestowitz-TR2; move to another channelk
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02:51 TR News; #GNU Gretl version 2022a (stable) released on 2 February 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gretl
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02:52 TR Bot; Gretl - Free Software Directory
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02:56 DaemonFC; MinceR, The bus is sponsored by a health department ad for safe sex.
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02:57 DaemonFC; "This bus ride brought to you by condoms. Condoms. Put one on, realize you're putting it on backwards, take it off, and put it on the other way. Condoms."
02:58 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, You mentioned ads don't make much money.
02:58 DaemonFC; They're all over the public transit here.
02:58 DaemonFC; I doubt they're charging enough money.
02:59 schestowitz; me: I'll give another few hours for response, seeing my posts did get approved, so they're being read. I'll draw my own conclusions if no response is posted soon.
02:59 DaemonFC; Microsoft Larabel still has more ads than ever on his site.
02:59 DaemonFC; Is Twitter shadowbanning you or something?
03:00 schestowitz; why?
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03:00 schestowitz; twitter went beyond shadowbans
03:01 schestowitz; that's very 2016\
03:01 schestowitz; I'll give michael 2 hours more
03:01 schestowitz; it's still early there, evening time
03:05 TR News; More evidence just now of #ibm destroying #redhat and #fedora https://zaitcev.livejournal.com/263863.html see http://techrights.org/2022/02/02/ibm-ruins-red-hat/
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03:05 TR Bot; Cura on Fedora is dead, use Slic3r: zaitcev LiveJournal
03:05 TR Bot; IBM Has Not Been Good to Red Hat (the Company Should Never Have Been Sold) | Techrights
03:06 TR News; Makers of the #JingPad A1 are selling the Linux tablet for 45-percent off following staffing cuts Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161040 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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03:06 TR Bot; Makers of the JingPad A1 are selling the Linux tablet for 45-percent off following staffing cuts | Tux Machines
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03:16 TR News; #gulag outsourcing its #www #surveillance code to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware (truly utterly untrustworthy companies) https://lwn.net/Articles/882607/
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03:16 TR Bot; FLoC, hello Topics [LWN.net]
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03:20 AdmFubar; https://www.pogowasright.org/how-a-decades-old-database-became-a-hugely-profitable-dossier-on-the-health-of-270-million-americans/
03:20 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pogowasright.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pogowasright.org/how-a-decades-old-database-became-a-hugely-profitable-dossier-on-the-health-of-270-million-americans/
03:20 TR Bot; How a decades-old database became a hugely profitable dossier on the health of 270 million Americans
03:22 AdmFubar; I like the "exploited" in quotes in the story... https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/wormhole-defi-hack
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03:22 TR Bot; steal more than $320 million through Wormhole - Protocol The people, power and politics of tech
03:23 TR News; Later they'll wonder why some people don't to visit a physician or talk to a physician https://www.pogowasright.org/how-a-decades-old-database-became-a-hugely-profitable-dossier-on-the-health-of-270-million-americans/ #ibm http://techrights.org/2022/01/31/ibm-tweet-on-open/
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03:23 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pogowasright.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pogowasright.org/how-a-decades-old-database-became-a-hugely-profitable-dossier-on-the-health-of-270-million-americans/
03:23 TR Bot; The New IBM: Openwashing Mass Surveillance | Techrights
03:23 TR News; Raw photo development with darktable Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161041 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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03:23 TR Bot; Raw photo development with darktable | Tux Machines
03:24 TR News; #Kernel Stories From LWN (Paywall Lapsed Moments Ago) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161042 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines
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03:24 TR Bot; Kernel Stories From LWN (Paywall Lapsed Moments Ago) | Tux Machines
03:24 AdmFubar; now to be known as "Cha Ching! Link" https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/wormhole-defi-hack
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03:25 schestowitz; fake money got stokemn
03:25 schestowitz; "ctrypo"
03:25 schestowitz; had bad crypto?
03:25 schestowitz; the real crypto?
03:28 AdmFubar; more like the creators of the crypto are "stealing" it from all the others who but into it. I should create a NFT crypto currency... for the ultimate in gullible fools to buy into.
03:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Uphold, the exchange that Brave recommends, is stealing money from its users accounts and there are unexplained "hacks" occurring that are draining out all of the money people have stored in there.
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03:31 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
03:31 DaemonFC; I'm told that email to tech support is going unanswered about this for at least weeks and sometimes forever.
03:31 kingoffrance; well, consider how many banks, credit reports, hospitals get "hacked" and information stolen...assuming crypto is legit, i dont get why people think it will suddenly be "secure"
03:31 kingoffrance; if the old system could not be "secured" why would the new one?
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03:39 AdmFubar; the new one is insecure by design.. the crypto creators are scamming to rip off the crypto ....
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04:35 DaemonFC; This server is less reliable than it was before Ariadne changed all that stuff.
04:42 DaemonFC; https://www.pcmag.com/news/nordvpns-parent-company-is-merging-with-vpn-provider-surfshark
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04:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pcmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/news/nordvpns-parent-company-is-merging-with-vpn-provider-surfshark
04:42 TR Bot; Parent Company Is Merging With VPN Provider Surfshark | PCMag
04:42 DaemonFC; schestowitz, ^
04:49 kingoffrance; "the new one is insecure by design" well i just mean, it seems like a technical solution when i'm not sure that is where the "hacks" come in
04:49 kingoffrance; and if they are insecure by design...its not a technical problem, its effectively "social engineering"
04:50 kingoffrance; when all you have is nails, everything looks like a hammer :D
04:53 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 204.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 256.54
05:07 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/28/intel_spectre_lawsuit/
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05:07 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/28/intel_spectre_lawsuit/
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05:07 TR Bot; Intel fails to get Spectre, Meltdown flaw lawsuit tossed The Register
05:40 DaemonFC; I don't know. My mind is sort of stuck in the 80s-2000s as far as software goes. All the software I want to run has no DRM. Either it never did, the company removed it, or someone cracked it a long time ago.
05:41 DaemonFC; And a lot of it runs in emulators. It's funny how little "Linux" software I really use. Some applications, a web browser... Mostly it just gets Windows and all of the viruses and bugs and failures out of the way and lets me run my programs some other way, even if that's through emulation or non-native API simulations.
05:42 DaemonFC; Windows isn't just insecure by design, it's also exceedingly bloated. Hilariously so considering how much backwards compatibility with itself is just gone now.
05:42 DaemonFC; So it's like, where did the compatibility argument go? It's gone.
05:43 DaemonFC; And all they have is this morbidly obese OS that's full of bugs and viruses, a product of a bygone age, and they're trying to bludgeon it into a "Chromebook killer" and they really have no idea how stupid they look.
05:44 DaemonFC; I'm just twenty years ahead of everyone else I guess. 20 years ago, the psychiatrists charted that the way I dressed was sort of dumpy. I wonder how many of them are alive to get a load of this shit.
05:45 DaemonFC; I was never dumpy enough to go out to eat in my pajamas and bathrobe, but that's like half of all Americans now.
05:45 DaemonFC; Maybe I've just always been depressed enough that I didn't give a fuck, and now everyone else is catching up and I'm no longer so crazy compared with them.
05:46 DaemonFC; You have to have a gauge, ruler, yardstick, whatever, by which to judge anything.
05:46 buzzert; you go out in your pajamas all the time?
05:46 DaemonFC; No.
05:47 DaemonFC; I just mean there's so many people who are actually worse than me now that I'm faded into the background.
05:47 DaemonFC; I used to at least get a rise out of people.
05:47 buzzert; curious what you mean by "dumpy"
05:47 DaemonFC; Oh, when I was a teenager, I used to give a middle finger to the school dress code by wearing windbreaker outfits with sandals and socks.
05:48 DaemonFC; Well, earlier maybe. 12 and up.
05:49 DaemonFC; Just did it because I thought it was hilarious. It didn't technically violate the dress code because they wrote it such that as long as no part of your feet were bare, it wasn't considered wearing sandals.
05:49 DaemonFC; So you just wore them with socks.
05:49 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.15 k/sec., IPFS upstream 178.26 average k/sec., average swarm size 256.53
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06:46 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 6.10 k/sec., IPFS upstream 109.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 256.54
07:10 immibis; now that I have tried IPFS I have quickly concluded that it's a complete and utter failure. Taking multiple minutes to fetch a file is simply unusable.
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07:17 kingoffrance; the "sidebar" on wikipedia for ipfs makes me laugh Nyaa Torrents YIFY FitGirl Repack #ICanHazPDF
07:22 immibis; well I aborted the command after 10 minutes
07:22 immibis; the command: ipfs resolve QmT9qk3CRYbFDWpDFYeAv8T8H1gnongwKhh5J68NLkLir6/example
07:22 immibis; I'm expecting it to fail since that's some random hash from an example somewhere and probably not a directory. But it shouldn't take 10 minutes, right?
07:24 immibis; and the node is processing 700 packets per second while idle. Is the network just that inefficient?
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07:26 wallacer; it's gossip
07:27 immibis; seems like it doesn't scale
07:27 wallacer; that's how it scales, if it won't gossip global state can't be synchronized, if you want to avoid gossip this shit has to be kept somewhere, and we all know what that means
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07:28 wallacer; 700 packets at 1420 average datagram size is 994kbps, right? I don't think I have ever seen my IPFS node gossiping that much
07:28 immibis; 10 minute requests is not scaling
07:28 wallacer; >10 minute requests is not scaling
07:28 wallacer; what's your average peer latency
07:29 wallacer; and how rare is that file?
07:30 immibis; the file possibly doesn't exist on the network, I copied something from a random tutorial just to see if IPFS worked. Is it expected that requesting a nonexistent file never finishes?
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07:30 wallacer; of course, it keeps searching for it in the DHT
07:30 wallacer; "nonexistent file" is meaningless to IPFS, either it's reachable via DHT or not
07:31 wallacer; and if the file is rare or unshared as of now it will scour the DHT till the end of time to see if it can find it
07:31 immibis; well that's silly
07:31 immibis; what kind of system is that
07:32 immibis; with no possibility of failure
07:32 wallacer; my only recommendation is don't use your centralized system intuition towards distributed systems
07:32 wallacer; that just doesn't work
07:32 immibis; ok i'll try something that I know does exist
07:32 immibis; resolving the IPFS tutorial itself returned almost instantly
07:33 wallacer; also ensure you have at least IPv6 enabled so that you are directly reachable
07:33 immibis; but still wtf why is there no failure case
07:33 immibis; surely it should get to a DHT node where the file should be and then say "oops, it's not here"
07:33 wallacer; there's no nodes where it should be
07:34 wallacer; >When searching for some value, the algorithm needs to know the associated key and explores the network in several steps. Each step will find nodes that are closer to the key until the contacted node returns the value or no more closer nodes are found. This is very efficient: like many other DHTs, Kademlia contacts only O ( log ( n ) ) {\displaystyle O(\log(n))} O(\log(n)) nodes during the search out of a total of n {\displaystyle n} n nodes in
07:34 wallacer; the system.
07:34 immibis; isn't the DHT based on some similarity between node ID and content ID?
07:34 wallacer; I'm not sure if IPFS works this way, but this is how Kademlia works
07:34 immibis; eventually it will find the closest node, and there is no closer node, and the file isn't on that node, so there's nowhere else to look, right?
07:34 wallacer; immibis: the file may not be at the node which is the closest to the content
07:34 immibis; or does it have to try random paths to see if there's a closer node?
07:34 wallacer; it searches outwards
07:35 wallacer; plus there'll be lots of nodes that equally close to the content ID
07:35 wallacer; err it actually searches inwards from the peers your node knows about
07:35 immibis; okay well it's reasonably fast for content that does exist, so that's okay then
07:36 immibis; you think I can DOS opensea by minting some NFTs with nonexistent IPFS hashes?
07:36 wallacer; you'd have to mint a ungodly amount of NFTs
07:36 immibis; well if the search never returns
07:36 wallacer; because IPFS is also parallel, it can search for multiple things at once
07:36 wallacer; and searching isn't very computationally expensive, just high latency
07:37 immibis; and an NFT is just an index into a smart contract - it's the contract which costs money - you should be able to make one with 2^256-1 NFTs in it
07:37 immibis; maybe it even encodes the NFT index as the IPFS hash so it's a contract with every possible IPFS hash in it
07:37 wallacer; you'd be blocked by your internet b/w making requests to create OpenSea auctions
07:38 wallacer; at that point why not just flood it with random requests, you are DoSing the b/w after all
07:40 immibis; is IPFS lookup only probabilistic?
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07:46 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.31 k/sec., IPFS upstream 186.93 average k/sec., average swarm size 256.52
07:46 immibis; I've seen IPFS compared to BitTorrent. I wonder why we don't just use HTML-over-BitTorrent
07:47 SomeH4x0r; wtf are those ""smart" contracts"?
07:49 immibis; SomeH4x0r: chunk of code on a blockchain, executed determistically lockstep by every node when it processes a transaction directed at the code block
07:49 immibis; s/lockstep//
07:49 SomeH4x0r; remote code execution as a feature?
07:50 immibis; obviously you do not simply execute unsandboxed blocks of x86 code. Typically it is EVM (Ethereum Virtual Machine)
07:50 immibis; the only interaction allowed is with the data on the blockchain
07:50 SomeH4x0r; fork bomb
07:50 immibis; also you pay real money per instruction
07:52 immibis; an example of a smart contract would be something like an exchange. you send me 5 units of magic internet money A, I send you 10 units of magic internet money B, but they either both happen or neither
07:52 immibis; actually their data storage abilities are used to create extra types of magic internet money, since you can write a smart contract that remembers who has which amount of the magic internet money, and exposes function calls to transfer it
07:54 immibis; same with NFTs but there is no quantity. instead of the quantity you have an index of which NFT it is
07:56 immibis; wallacer: when fetching a directory, does the client try to get all the contents of the directory from the same node that was hosting the directory, or does it look them up individually?
07:57 wallacer; iirc directories are technically the same as any other piece of data in IPFS
07:57 wallacer; the UnixFS directory model is just a file that refers to other files by a name and a content hash, along with some other attributes
07:58 wallacer; and then if you further open files in that directory they will be fetched like any other
07:58 wallacer; closest node known and inwards as usual
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07:58 wallacer; >fork bomb
07:58 wallacer; you can fork bomb, but be prepared to pay a few millions
07:59 wallacer; and ultimately all miners get rich, you get poor
07:59 wallacer; a win-win perhaps
08:01 immibis; wallacer: sounds expensive to do a separate lookup for every block of data
08:01 immibis; maybe normalize storing tarballs in IPFS
08:01 immibis; instead of directories
08:02 kingoffrance; thats what freenet did , zip files
08:02 wallacer; as mentioned asking nodes on a DHT to see whether it has a file is not very computationally expensive, just high latency
08:02 wallacer; >maybe normalize storing tarballs in IPFS
08:02 wallacer; you can, just store tarballs
08:02 wallacer; there's a fundamental tradeoff here
08:02 wallacer; if you are only interested in a specific part of a tarball, you'd have to download the whole tarball
08:02 wallacer; otherwise you can't validate the hash
08:02 wallacer; but with UnixFS you can refer to a specific file
08:03 wallacer; there's the other directory model, I don't remember the name
08:03 wallacer; you can just download that part only
08:03 wallacer; if you download all files in parallel it'll probably be faster than downloading the tar because the whole tarball would have a limited swarm, and you can't pin a specific file only
08:04 immibis; aren't files already split up into blocks? you would just download the relevant blocks. so it wouldn't be any faster anyway
08:04 immibis; because you'd have to look up all the blocks
08:04 wallacer; >aren't files already split up into blocks? you would just download the relevant blocks. so it wouldn't be any faster anyway
08:04 wallacer; I'm not sure but I'm fairly sure validation of the CID hash would be problematic then
08:04 wallacer; you can't pin blocks of a file since the DHT works by CID and not block ID
08:04 immibis; the CID hash is based on the block hashes I assume
08:05 immibis; or is that done at a lower level. Seems silly to do it at a separate level from directories
08:06 wallacer; https://docs.ipfs.io/concepts/file-systems/#unix-file-system-unixfs
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08:06 TR Bot; File systems | IPFS Docs
08:06 wallacer; it's a tree
08:06 wallacer; apparently
08:07 wallacer; https://github.com/ipfs-inactive/archive-format
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08:07 TR Bot; - ipfs-inactive/archive-format: [ARCHIVED] DEPRECATED car - Certified ARchives
08:07 immibis; remember the CID isn't the file hash, it's the hash of some metadata
08:07 wallacer; https://ipld.io/specs/transport/car/
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08:07 TR Bot; IPLD CAR
08:08 wallacer; well CAR is what you are looking for then
08:08 wallacer; >remember the CID isn't the file hash, it's the hash of some metadata
08:08 wallacer; it's deterministic tho
08:08 wallacer; every file has one CID possible
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08:10 immibis; I don't think that's true
08:11 wallacer; https://docs.ipfs.io/concepts/content-addressing/
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08:11 TR Bot; Content addressing | IPFS Docs
08:11 wallacer; they do claim that's the case
08:21 immibis; update yer IPFS nodes, most of the ones in my DHT are a few versions old
08:21 immibis; ("ipfs stats dht")
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08:32 wallacer; IPFS should recommend subscribing to the release RSS when you install
08:32 wallacer; wonder why they don't do that
08:35 immibis; according to the video here: https://research.protocol.ai/tutorials/resnetlab-on-tour/content-exchange/ IPFS DOES try to optimistically fetch the contents of a file/directory from the same nodes that had the root of the file/directory
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08:35 TR Bot; Content Exchange | Protocol Labs Research
08:38 immibis; ironically hosted on youtube
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08:49 SomeH4x0r; wallacer: "recommend"? or you mean spam?
08:49 wallacer; just once at startup or when you install it
08:49 SomeH4x0r; *do you mean spam
08:49 wallacer; not that hard to do
08:49 SomeH4x0r; why should it spam the user with anything
08:49 SomeH4x0r; can be put into the manual
08:50 wallacer; they can just include it in the installation guide or the download page
08:50 wallacer; that's also fine
08:50 wallacer; GitHub doesn't even fucking expose that they have an Atom feed for releases
08:50 wallacer; it's weird
08:50 SomeH4x0r; could put it into README.md or whatever else there as well
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09:13 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, February 02, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
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09:13 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
09:13 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
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09:13 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
09:14 TR News; #PeppermintOS 11 Released After 3 Years in Development, Now Based on Debian and Xfce Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161043 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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09:14 TR Bot; Peppermint OS 11 Released After 3 Years in Development, Now Based on Debian and Xfce | Tux Machines
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09:21 TR News; NEWS #uniToronto The likely long-term result of good on-host (host-based) firewalls https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/HostFirewallsLimits
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09:21 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/HostFirewallsLimits
09:21 TR News; NEWS #JeffGeerling I took down #Starlink (but I haven't cancelled) https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/i-took-down-starlink-i-havent-cancelled
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09:21 TR Bot; I took down Starlink (but I haven't cancelled) | Jeff Geerling
09:22 TR News; NEWS #Arduino # This contactless system combines embedded ML and sensors to improve elevator safety https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/01/29/this-contactless-system-combines-embedded-ml-and-sensors-to-improve-elevator-safety/
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09:22 TR Bot; This contactless system combines embedded ML and sensors to improve elevator safety | Arduino Blog
09:22 TR News; NEWS #SparkFunElectronics #OpenHardware Decisions, DecisionsTransitioning from Teensy 3.x to Teensy 4.x or MicroMod https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4266
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09:22 TR Bot; DecisionsTransitioning from Teensy 3.x to Teensy 4.x or MicroMod - News - SparkFun Electronics
09:23 TR News; NEWS #AndreAlvesGarzia #WebBrowsers Unable to login to HN from Firefox, a lovecraftian tale. https://andregarzia.com/2022/02/unable-to-login-to-hn-from-firefox-a-lovecraftian-tale.html
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09:23 TR Bot; to login to HN from Firefox, a lovecraftian tale. AndreGarzia.com
09:24 TR News; NEWS #Tesi #db #MariaDB announces intentions to list on New York Stock Exchange via SPAC and a EUR 92 million Series D round https://www.tesi.fi/en/news-item/mariadb-announces-intentions-to-list-on-new-york-stock-exchange-via-spac-and-a-eur-92-million-series-d-round/
09:24 TR Bot; to list by SPAC and raises EUR 92 million - tesi.fi
09:24 TR News; NEWS #TechEU #db Open-source database software maker #MariaDB announces intentions to list on NYSE via SPAC https://tech.eu/brief/open-source-database-software-maker-mariadb-announces-intentions-to-list-on-nyse-via-spac/
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09:24 TR Bot; database software maker MariaDB announces intentions to list on NYSE via SPAC Tech.eu
09:27 TR News; #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, February 02, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/irc-log-020222/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/03/irc-log-020222/
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09:27 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, February 02, 2022 | Techrights
09:28 TR News; NEWS #TheNation Will the #GatesFoundation Board Ever Hold #BillGates Accountable? https://www.thenation.com/article/society/gates-foundation-board-accountability/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_Critique
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09:28 TR Bot; Will the Gates Foundations Board Ever Hold Bill Accountable? | The Nation
09:28 TR Bot; Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights
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09:31 TR News; NEWS #Rlang #Programming Guidelines for writing good R code https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/02/guidelines-for-writing-good-r-code/
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09:31 TR Bot; for writing good R code | R-bloggers
09:31 TR News; NEWS #TrailOfBits #Programming Part 2: Improving crypto code in Rust using LLVMs optnone https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/02/01/part-2-rusty-crypto/
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09:31 TR Bot; Part 2: Improving crypto code in Rust using LLVMs optnone | Trail of Bits Blog
09:32 TR News; NEWS #Rlang #Programming Making a package from base R files https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/01/making-a-package-from-base-r-files/
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09:32 TR Bot; a package from base R files | R-bloggers
09:32 TR News; NEWS #JuliaEvans #Programming A toy DNS resolver https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/02/01/a-dns-resolver-in-80-lines-of-go/
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09:32 TR Bot; A toy DNS resolver
09:32 TR News; [Old] #uniOxford #Python Hosting multiple Flask apps using Apache/mod_wsgi https://www.blopig.com/blog/2021/05/hosting-multiple-flask-apps-using-apache-mod_wsgi/
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09:33 TR Bot; Hosting multiple Flask apps using Apache/mod_wsgi | Oxford Protein Informatics Group
09:33 bnchs; should we make an alternative to the DNS protocol
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09:35 schestowitz; good morning, all
09:36 schestowitz; phoronix/michael has not responded
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09:36 schestowitz; I took screenshots
09:36 schestowitz; for those who missed it, michael larabel seems to have taken gift worth a whole house
09:36 schestowitz; linking to phoronix at this stage is a liability
09:36 schestowitz; so we will stop doing that, also in daily links, I think
09:37 schestowitz; I need to come up with ideas of the statement we make on the matter
09:37 schestowitz; like, how we frame the situation
09:37 schestowitz; going out to cast a vote now, back in an hour
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10:14 schestowitz; I have a draft now
10:14 schestowitz; anyone wants to add to it?
10:26 TR News; Techrights Statement on #Phoronix Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/techrights-statement-on-phoronix/ #Techrights #amd #hardware| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/03/techrights-statement-on-phoronix/
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10:27 TR Bot; Techrights Statement on Phoronix | Techrights
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10:29 TR News; #mesa 22.0.0-rc1 https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2022-February/225668.html #graphics
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10:29 TR Bot; [ANNOUNCE] mesa 22.0.0-rc1
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11:46 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 10.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 128.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 256.51
11:47 TR News; NEWS #Stat #Privacy #Surveillance How a decades-old database became a hugely profitable dossier on the health of 270 million Americans https://www.statnews.com/2022/02/01/ibm-watson-health-marketscan-data/
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11:47 TR Bot; How a decades-old database became a hugely profitable dossier on the health of 270 million Americans - STAT
11:48 TR News; NEWS #PatrickBreyer #Privacy #Surveillance Agreement reached on new Europol mandate: Illegal activities must not be legalised! https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/agreement-reached-on-new-europol-mandate-illegal-activities-must-not-be-legalised/
11:48 TR Bot; Agreement reached on new Europol mandate: Illegal activities must not be legalised! Patrick Breyer
11:48 TR News; [Old] #StateWatch #Privacy #Surveillance #EU : #Europol : "Significant progress" on legalising illegal data practices https://www.statewatch.org/news/2022/january/eu-europol-significant-progress-on-legalising-illegal-data-practices/
11:49 TR Bot; Statewatch | EU: Europol: "Significant progress" on legalising illegal data practices
11:49 TR News; [Old] #EDRI #Privacy #Surveillance The EUs own Snowden Scandal: Europols Data Mining https://edri.org/our-work/the-eus-own-snowden-scandal-europols-data-mining/ #EDPS is useless http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/edps-gdpr-epo-impunity/
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11:49 TR News; [Old] #StateWatch #Privacy #Surveillance Europol: Council Presidency proposes workaround for illegal data processing https://www.statewatch.org/news/2022/january/europol-council-presidency-proposes-workaround-for-illegal-data-processing/ #EDPS is useless http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/edps-gdpr-epo-impunity/
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11:49 TR Bot; The EU's own 'Snowden Scandal': Europol's Data Mining - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
11:49 TR Bot; The European Data Protection Supervisor (EDPS) Needs to Get Its Act Together on the EPOs GDPR Violations | Techrights
11:49 TR News; NEWS #EDRI #Privacy #Surveillance Secret negotiations about Europol: the big rule of law scandal https://edri.org/our-work/secret-negotiations-about-europol-the-big-rule-of-law-scandal/
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11:49 TR Bot; Statewatch | Europol: Council Presidency proposes workaround for illegal data processing
11:49 TR Bot; Secret negotiations about Europol: the big rule of law scandal - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
11:57 TR News; NEWS #SequoiaPGP #Confidentiality Looking for sq stakeholders https://sequoia-pgp.org/blog/2022/02/01/202202-sq-stakeholders/
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11:57 TR Bot; Blog - Looking for sq stakeholders
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11:59 TR News; NEWS #Xe How To Approach Me With #Scamcoin Jobs https://christine.website/blog/scamcoin-jobs-2022-02-01
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11:59 TR Bot; How To Approach Me With Scamcoin Jobs - Xe
12:00 TR News; NEWS #BBC #Politics US bans telecom giant #China #Unicom over #spying concerns https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60164747
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12:00 TR Bot; bans telecom giant China Unicom over spying concerns - BBC News
12:01 TR News; NEWS #AFP #finland US #socialcontrolmedia users praise fictitious Finnish labor reform https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.9WN2ME "However, Finland is considering no such labor reforms at this time." #Misinformation #Disinformation
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12:01 TR Bot; US social media users praise fictitious Finnish labor reform | Fact Check
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12:16 TR News; #KDE Gear 21.12.2 Released with GCC 12 Support, More Improvements for Your Favorite Apps Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161044 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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12:16 TR Bot; KDE Gear 21.12.2 Released with GCC 12 Support, More Improvements for Your Favorite Apps | Tux Machines
12:20 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Antitrust Can We At Least Make Sure Antitrust Isn't Deliberately Designed To Make Everyone Worse Off? https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220130/22121148392/can-we-least-make-sure-antitrust-isnt-deliberately-designed-to-make-everyone-worse-off.shtml
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12:20 TR Bot; We At Least Make Sure Antitrust Isn't Deliberately Designed To Make Everyone Worse Off? | Techdirt
12:26 TR News; #RightToRepair makes it out of committee in MA for the first time https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/right-to-repair-makes-it-out-of:a #rossmanngroup
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12:26 TR Bot; Right to Repair makes it out of committee in MA for the first time
12:26 TR News; #microsoft #windows #tco https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=https://www.version2.dk/artikel/ny-rapport-danmark-blandt-de-lande-med-flest-brud-paa-datasikkerheden-1094091
12:26 TR Bot; Ny rapport: Danmark er blandt de lande med flest brud p datasikkerheden | Version2
12:27 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #iTunes #DRM Removal Could Come Back to Haunt Record Labels in Piracy Liability Lawsuit https://torrentfreak.com/itunes-drm-removal-could-come-back-to-haunt-record-labels-in-piracy-liability-lawsuit-220202/
12:27 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/itunes-drm-removal-could-come-back-to-haunt-record-labels-in-piracy-liability-lawsuit-220202/
12:27 TR Bot; DRM Removal Could Come Back to Haunt Record Labels in Piracy Liability Lawsuit * TorrentFreak
12:27 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Manga Publishers' Lawsuit: #Clownflare Fails to Terminate Pirates or Verify Identities https://torrentfreak.com/manga-publishers-lawsuit-cloudflare-fails-to-terminate-pirates-or-verify-identities-220202/
12:27 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/manga-publishers-lawsuit-cloudflare-fails-to-terminate-pirates-or-verify-identities-220202/
12:27 TR Bot; Publishers' Lawsuit: Cloudflare Fails to Terminate Pirates or Verify Identities * TorrentFreak
12:28 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/TheTechScribe?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
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12:28 schestowitz; "Community Insights, Red Hat OSPO."
12:28 schestowitz; so he's still at IBM
12:29 schestowitz; https://www.redhat.com/en/authors/brian-proffitt
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12:29 TR Bot; Brian Proffitt | Red Hat
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12:32 TR News; NATIONWIDE #RightToRepair bill presented by Senator Jon Tester; a farmer that went into politics. https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/nationwide-right-to-repair-bill:a #rossmanngroup
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12:32 TR Bot; NATIONWIDE Right to Repair bill presented by Senator Jon Tester; a farmer that went into politics.
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12:33 TR News; 2022 Spring https://event.ospn.jp/osc2022-online-spring/ #event #ospn #jp #japan
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12:33 TR Bot; 2022 Spring
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12:34 TR News; Play the Viral #Wordle Game in #GNULinux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161045 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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12:34 TR Bot; Play the Viral Wordle Game in Linux | Tux Machines
12:34 TR News; More #Allwinner F1C200s ARM9 boards: #MangoPi R3 and CherryPi-F1C200S Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161046 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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12:34 TR Bot; More Allwinner F1C200s ARM9 boards: MangoPi R3 and CherryPi-F1C200S | Tux Machines
12:35 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #DRM #RighttoRepair Congress Introduces New Agricultural 'Right to Repair' Bill With Massive Farmer Support https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220201/07080148396/congress-introduces-new-agricultural-right-to-repair-bill-with-massive-farmer-support.shtml
12:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220201/07080148396/congress-introduces-new-agricultural-right-to-repair-bill-with-massive-farmer-support.shtml
12:35 TR Bot; Introduces New Agricultural 'Right to Repair' Bill With Massive Farmer Support | Techdirt
12:36 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Texas Town To Start Issuing Traffic Tickets By Text Message https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220116/13472348298/texas-town-to-start-issuing-traffic-tickets-text-message.shtml what about those of us who do not carry spyphones? No fines? Or no permission to "own" a car?
12:36 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220116/13472348298/texas-town-to-start-issuing-traffic-tickets-text-message.shtml
12:36 TR Bot; Town To Start Issuing Traffic Tickets By Text Message | Techdirt
12:38 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #FCC #Hollywood , Media, And Telecom Giants Are Clearly Terrified #GigiSohn Will Do Her Job At The FCC https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220202/06413048403/hollywood-media-telecom-giants-are-clearly-terrified-gigi-sohn-will-do-her-job-fcc.shtml
12:38 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220202/06413048403/hollywood-media-telecom-giants-are-clearly-terrified-gigi-sohn-will-do-her-job-fcc.shtml
12:38 TR Bot; Media, And Telecom Giants Are Clearly Terrified Gigi Sohn Will Do Her Job At The FCC | Techdirt
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12:46 TR News; NEWS #ProjectCensored Cross-Border #Police #Surveillance Treaty Undermines #Privacy Rights - Validated Independent News https://www.projectcensored.org/cross-border-police-surveillance-treaty-undermines-privacy-rights/
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12:46 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/cross-border-police-surveillance-treaty-undermines-privacy-rights/ )
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12:57 TR News; NEWS #CreativeCommons Open Minds Podcast: Brigitte Vzina of Creative Commons https://creativecommons.org/2022/02/02/open-minds-podcast-brigitte-vezina-of-creative-commons/
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12:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/02/02/open-minds-podcast-brigitte-vezina-of-creative-commons/
12:58 TR Bot; Open Minds Podcast: Brigitte Vzina of Creative Commons - Creative Commons
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12:59 TR News; NEWS #EFF #Copyright #Copyrights Tell the #CopyrightOffice Who Is Really Affected by Filters https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/02/tell-copyright-office-who-really-affected-filters
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12:59 TR Bot; Tell the Copyright Office Who Is Really Affected by Filters | Electronic Frontier Foundation
13:04 TR News; FOSDEM 2022 - #RakuLang devroom https://fosdem.org/2022/schedule/track/raku/ #fosdem #programming
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13:04 TR Bot; FOSDEM 2022 - Raku devroom
13:09 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161047 #Linux #TuxMachines
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13:09 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
13:09 TR News; Linux #Kernel 4.4 LTS Reaches End of Life After Six Years of Support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161048 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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13:09 TR Bot; Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Reaches End of Life After Six Years of Support | Tux Machines
13:10 liberty_box; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60238565
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13:10 TR Bot; Facebook: Daily active users fall for first time in 18-year history - BBC News
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13:22 TR News; In #china they kidnap you for exposing the criminals. In the West, they deplatform you from #socialcontrolmedia and defame you in so-called 'media'... to accomplish the same.
13:28 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt Moar Consolidation: Sony Acquires Bungie, But Appears To Be More Hands Off Than Microsoft https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220202/10242548405/moar-consolidation-sony-acquires-bungie-appears-to-be-more-hands-off-than-microsoft.shtml #Microsoft = crime http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/
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13:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220202/10242548405/moar-consolidation-sony-acquires-bungie-appears-to-be-more-hands-off-than-microsoft.shtml
13:28 TR Bot; Consolidation: Sony Acquires Bungie, But Appears To Be More Hands Off Than Microsoft | Techdirt
13:28 TR Bot; EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights
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13:31 TR News; Rysiekr Memesson: "I cannot stress enough how important Sequoia and sq are. We need a modern, safe, sane implementation of OpenPGP, and they are exactly that." https://mastodon.technology/@rysiek/107723006554926960 #rysiek
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13:31 TR Bot; Rysiekr Memesson: "@liw@toot.liw.fi and I cannot stress enough how i" - Mastodon for Tech Folks
13:32 TR News; #iPhones . The Most Advanced #Surveillance Device Ever Made https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/airtagfindmyphone:6 #apple
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13:32 TR Bot; iPhones. The Most Advanced Surveillance Device Ever Made
13:33 TR News; "The @bsdcan CFP is now open until end of February 7 ... Why? We know people who did not submit because they did not want to present in person." https://mastodon.social/@pitrh/107729499691421135 #bsdcan #bsd #unix
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13:33 TR Bot; Peter N. M. Hansteen: "The @bsdcan CFP is now open until end of February" - Mastodon
13:33 TR News; Yes, the planet got destroyed. But for a beautiful moment in time we created a lot of artificial scarcity. https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/107728715802709898
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13:33 TR Bot; ar.al: "Yes, the planet got destroyed. But for a beautif" - Arals Mastodon
13:34 TR News; "It's ironic, because people think of noncompetes as being necessary to creating a thriving innovation sector, and the most innovative sector of the past 40 years is legally enjoined from using them." https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/107729380884450356
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13:34 TR Bot; Cory Doctorow's linkblog: "It's ironic, because people think of noncompetes " - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media Fdr
13:41 TR News; #BSDNow 440: BSD Inside Zone https://www.bsdnow.tv/440 #bsd #unix
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13:41 TR Bot; BSD Now 440: BSD Inside Zone
13:45 TR News; Fedora today: "Copr is going to be migrated from an assigned DigiCert certificate (expires very soon) to the automated Let's Encrypt certificate. We expect that some HTTPD service hiccups can occur, but shouldn't take more then a few minutes." http://techrights.org/2020/08/09/aws-fedoraproject/
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13:45 TR Bot; It Looks Like Red Hats (IBM) Fedora Project May be Outsourced to Amazons Datacentres | Techrights
13:46 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 134.83 average k/sec., average swarm size 256.49
13:47 TR News; Now with the community all gone, #Fedora has become about #socialengineering instead of technical engineering https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-code-of-conduct-report-2021/ #ibm #redhat
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13:47 TR Bot; Fedora Code of Conduct Report 2021 Fedora Community Blog
13:49 TR News; A Renaissance Riddle: The Sola Busca Tarot Deck (1491) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/sola-busca/ #publicdomainreview #publicdomain
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13:49 TR Bot; A Renaissance Riddle: The Sola Busca Tarot Deck (1491) The Public Domain Review
13:49 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161049 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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13:49 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
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13:57 TR News; I am totally not happy about how #uk #libdems operate. Amid local election this past week they constantly spammed us (a COVID risk), knocked on our door (nuisance), and even at the polling station they ask you stuff and take tally of who voted so they can keep harassing those who have not. They're like #JehovahWitnesses
14:02 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: BSDNow, TLLTS, and LINUX Unplugged Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161050 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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14:02 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: BSDNow, TLLTS, and LINUX Unplugged | Tux Machines
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14:21 TR News; When Blogs Become #Marketing and #Benchmarks Become Product Promotions Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/ #Techrights #amd #phoronix | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/
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14:40 TR News; [Meme] The Influencers for Sale Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/meme-the-influencers-for-sale/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #AMD | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/03/meme-the-influencers-for-sale/
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14:40 TR Bot; [Meme] The Influencers for Sale | Techrights
14:42 TR News; #mesa 22.0.0-rc1 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161051 #Graphics #Linux #TuxMachines
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14:42 TR Bot; mesa 22.0.0-rc1 | Tux Machines
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14:46 psydroid2; "I really don't know why MAUI is considered a multiplatform desktop framework, since don't support the most big platforms, Linux Desktop. I'm begin forced to use Java SWING in some applications that run in my job juste because they refuse to implement maui for linux. So i have to do lot of work to support windows desktop versions and both java version. Its very frustrating."
14:47 psydroid2; Just pull the plug on anything .NET. Smile, tell them you will use their technology and just pull the plug.
14:50 TR News; #KDE Gear 21.12.2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161044#comment-32712
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14:50 TR Bot; KDE Gear 21.12.2 Released with GCC 12 Support, More Improvements for Your Favorite Apps | Tux Machines
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14:55 TR News; # Kernel 4.4 LTS Reaches End of Life After Six Years of Support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161048 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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14:56 TR News; Raspberry Pi OS 64-bit officially released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161025#comment-32709
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14:56 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi OS enters the 64-bit era (but 32-bit is still the default option) | Tux Machines
14:58 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161052 #Linux #TuxMachines
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14:58 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:58 schestowitz; psydroid2: they hijacked the name MAUI
14:58 schestowitz; from KDE
14:58 schestowitz; miguel de ikaka stole that name from the actual gnu/linux devs from mexico
14:59 schestowitz; uri herrera and other
14:59 schestowitz; *others
14:59 schestowitz; they were pissed off
14:59 schestowitz; then Microsoft started censoring dissent in shithub
14:59 schestowitz; so you are not allowed to complain about the ripoff
15:00 psydroid2; it looks like more and more developers are getting in on the scam of basing their code on so-called cross-platform technologies from Microsoft
15:00 psydroid2; only 15 years after Mono came onto the scene?
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15:04 activelow; meanwhile, verified X11/GTK goodies against the system profile without c++; although X11 meets criteria, too much in the realm of GUI simply requires it, c++
15:05 activelow; which means, i'll entirely separate X11/GTK from the base system, and will try to maintain X11/GTK/c++ stuff isolated inside a chroot, and keep the base system clean in prepration of TinyCC/PCC/C99-compliance
15:06 activelow; anyway, after German government denied Russia Today broadcasting their satellite TV station in germany, today Russia shot down "Deutsche Welle" (german wave) office in russia
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15:07 activelow; *shut down
15:08 activelow; remember this: german government was the first to shut down international satellite tv broadcaster, and russia followed in response
15:11 activelow; and it was a supposedly "liberal"/"social"/"mutli cultural"/"eco" party-politics government which hijacked october last year
15:12 activelow; it was not Orban, or Putin, or any other "conservative"/"right-wing" which had shut down satellite tv broadcasting and offices, it was the "german" government "democratically" elected lasted year
15:12 activelow; which are, mostly atlantik bridge minions and USA think thank charlatans who did
15:14 activelow; and the foreign ministry is occupied by one of those "eco feminist" lunatic since recently, who follows the "renewable" propaganda scam
15:14 XRevan86; https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/releases/0.3.45 .d configuration, that made my day.
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15:14 TR Bot; 0.3.45 PipeWire / pipewire GitLab
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15:29 TR News; #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161053 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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15:29 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
15:32 TR News; Proprietary Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161054 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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15:32 TR Bot; Proprietary Leftovers | Tux Machines
15:32 TR News; #FreeSoftware Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161055 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #FreeSW
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15:32 TR Bot; Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
15:34 TR News; Links 3/2/2022: Peppermint 11 and #KDE Gear 21.12.2 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/kde-gear-21-12-2/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/03/kde-gear-21-12-2/
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15:34 TR Bot; Links 3/2/2022: Peppermint 11 and KDE Gear 21.12.2 | Techrights
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15:39 activelow; XRevan86: i remember a recent political in discussion, by the mentioned government, who insists on Telegram being cencored and spied upon
15:39 activelow; https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=PipeWire-0.3.45
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15:39 TR Bot; 0.3.45 Restores Sound Support For Zoom, Telegram - Phoronix
15:40 XRevan86; activelow: It does raise suspicion, but there's no good evidence of it actually colluding with Kremlin. Kremlin definitely has its eye on Telegram though.
15:40 XRevan86; They watch Telegram channels like a hawk.
15:44 activelow; Kremlin? USA.
15:44 XRevan86; activelow: Regarding censorship, Telegram honours official requests.
15:44 activelow; the recent political and economic agenda to attack NorthStream2 doesn't benefit the Kremlin
15:44 XRevan86; Do they mean that?
15:45 activelow; i suspect this, USA are desparate to source new Oil/Gas resources, after the fracking boom ceased; and try to control public broadcasting
15:46 XRevan86; activelow: NorthStream2 has one agenda only: to pump gas to Europe not through Ukraine.
15:46 activelow; some geo-strategic clusterfuck made in USA, this is it, not Kremlin (although i am not a "fan" of theirs nor their TV)
15:47 activelow; XRevan86: yes, and this is what USA foreign policy tries to capitalize upon, and too "EU", because the Gas sold by russia is ~10% of the "re-seller" prize in EU
15:49 activelow; anyway, i've got the feeling, shutting down international TV broadcasters (the russian ones, and next a german one), this is far worse "news" than i expected, in preparation of something i wouldn't know yet, what USA and their minions prepared for, internationally
15:49 activelow; better to say, washington
15:50 activelow; the entire "renewable" energy is a propaganda scam anyway, because energy isn't renewable, it is related costs for sourcing, storage, and transport, always, besides other side effects concerning nature
15:51 activelow; furthermore, consumption doesn't decrease, it is only distribution which changes, and profit maximization
15:51 TR News; The GNU C Library version 2.35 is now available [ Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161056 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #programming
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15:51 TR Bot; The GNU C Library version 2.35 is now available [ | Tux Machines
15:51 TR News; GNU #RCS 5.10.1 available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161057 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw
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15:51 TR Bot; GNU RCS 5.10.1 available | Tux Machines
15:51 TR News; #Leibniz University #Hannover joins the #GNUHealth Alliance of Academic and Research Institutions Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161058 #GNU #TuxMachines
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15:51 TR Bot; Leibniz University Hannover joins the GNU Health Alliance of Academic and Research Institutions | Tux Machines
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15:53 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161059 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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15:53 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
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16:01 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1306387-mesa-s-dozen-close-to-providing-vulkan-over-direct3d-12
16:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1306387-mesa-s-dozen-close-to-providing-vulkan-over-direct3d-12
16:01 TR Bot; "Dozen" Close To Providing Vulkan Over Direct3D 12 - Phoronix Forums
16:01 schestowitz; "
16:01 schestowitz; What's the end goal here?
16:01 schestowitz; As in: Is there a nefarious purpose (EEE) or is it more like simple practicality in terms of wanting to be able to emulate/virtualise WSL2 on top of existing DX12 Windows closed-source driver infra when using Vulkan-native apps inside WSL2?
16:01 schestowitz; If it's not clear from the context, I'm leaning towards the latter FWIW.
16:01 schestowitz; "
16:01 schestowitz; The comments still better than the article
16:02 schestowitz; "The only reason I see for mesa to ever accept these patches, is to lick Microsoft's boots..."
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16:03 TR News; #microsoft is now busy polluting #mesa with #windows cruft and #ProprietarySoftware shims. Link omitted, but it's progressing further.http://techrights.org/2022/01/11/phoronix-and-microsoft-mesa/
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16:03 TR Bot; Microsoft Thinks It Owns Mesa (and Computer Games) | Techrights
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16:05 TR News; Build your own container on Linux | https://opensource.com/article/22/2/build-your-own-container-linux-buildah #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux
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16:05 TR Bot; your own container on Linux | Opensource.com
16:06 TR News; Stop the sale of #NSOGroup https://www.accessnow.org/stop-sale-nso-group/ #israel #espionage #whitewashing #accountability
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16:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/stop-sale-nso-group/
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16:06 TR Bot; Stop the sale of NSO Group - Access Now
16:07 TR News; Techrights will refrain from linking to #Phoronix any longer and urges others to do the same Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/techrights-statement-on-phoronix/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/03/techrights-statement-on-phoronix/
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16:07 TR Bot; Techrights Statement on Phoronix | Techrights
16:07 TR News; #RaspberryPi Imager 1.7 Released with New Advanced Settings, Zstd Support, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161060 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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16:07 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Imager 1.7 Released with New Advanced Settings, Zstd Support, and More | Tux Machines
16:10 TR News; The integrity of the Linux blogosphere is being compromised by big corporate money; the #LinuxFoundation has intruded many blogs with its #monopoly money (ads and puff pieces galore) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/meme-the-influencers-for-sale/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/03/meme-the-influencers-for-sale/
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16:10 TR Bot; [Meme] The Influencers for Sale | Techrights
16:10 TR News; Having boasted about hardware worth as much as a house (likely in breach of FTC regulations, not just the most fundamental ethical guidelines), apparently coming from #AMD , #Phoronix discredited itself or tarnished its image as a trusted, objective source; now it seems to be deleting the image of this epic ( #EPYC ) gift Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/
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16:11 TR Bot; When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights
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16:27 bnchs; gulagtube is just marketing
16:28 bnchs; being "gulagtuber" is now considered a job instead of a hobby
16:28 bnchs; you can see channels like linustechtips with sponsors every video, and his publicity stunt, involving a pop!os desktop and a steam installation
16:29 SomeH4x0r; is sponsorblock or whatever else reliable?
16:30 bnchs; sponsorblock is reliable and privacy-friendly
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16:30 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 45.30 k/sec., IPFS upstream 154.63 average k/sec., average swarm size 256.48
16:30 bnchs; they even go as far as making the extension send 3-character hash, which makes the server return more than one video
16:31 SomeH4x0r; so it is safe to enable it in yt-dlp and not worry about it stripping something important?
16:31 bnchs; there's also DB mirrors and API
16:31 bnchs; so it is safe to enable it in yt-dlp and not worry about it stripping something important?
16:32 bnchs; that depends, you might want to check before and after
16:32 bnchs; usually it will log whatever it spliced
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16:54 TR News; The Hand of Merlin RPG coming to #GNULinux officially, sometime March onwards | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/the-hand-of-merlin-rpg-coming-to-linux-officially-sometime-march-onwards #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
16:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/the-hand-of-merlin-rpg-coming-to-linux-officially-sometime-march-onwards
16:54 TR Bot; Hand of Merlin RPG coming to Linux officially, sometime March onwards | GamingOnLinux
16:55 MinceR; https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2021/12/08/digits
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16:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: penny-arcade.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2021/12/08/digits
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16:55 TR Bot; Penny Arcade - Comic - Digeroos
16:55 TR News; Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.4.3 RC 1 https://godotengine.org/article/release-candidate-godot-3-4-3-rc-1 #godotengine #deletegithub #games
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16:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: godotengine.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://godotengine.org/article/release-candidate-godot-3-4-3-rc-1
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16:55 TR Bot; Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.4.3 RC 1
16:56 TR News; Shining A Different Light On Reality With Short-Wave #Infrared Radiation | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/03/shining-a-different-light-on-reality-with-short-wave-infrared-radiation/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/03/#latest
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16:56 TR Bot; A Different Light On Reality With Short-Wave Infrared Radiation | Hackaday
16:56 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
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17:17 TR News; #ZorinOS 16 Education Launches with New Educational Apps, System Improvements Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161061 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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17:17 TR Bot; Zorin OS 16 Education Launches with New Educational Apps, System Improvements | Tux Machines
17:22 TR News; #Games: Steam, Unity, Discord, and Godot Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161062 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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17:22 TR Bot; Games: Steam, Unity, Discord, and Godot | Tux Machines
17:25 MinceR; https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2021/12/10/jimterlude
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17:25 Alternative link; Cloudflare: penny-arcade.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2021/12/10/jimterlude
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17:25 TR Bot; Penny Arcade - Comic - Jimterlude
17:32 bnchs; #Games: Steam, Unity, Discord, and Godot Tux Machines
17:32 bnchs; all but one is proprietary
17:32 SomeH4x0r; why do you recommend those?
17:33 SomeH4x0r; are you double agent?
17:33 bnchs; steam is shit, unity is shit (they literally have spyware that sends an email to you if you're idle), discord is shit (you know why)
17:33 SomeH4x0r; you == the "community managers", people who think they represent the community. Or, if it is sane, the people who set up the bot or the website
17:35 bnchs; the discord part is literally a tutorial about how to get a discord overlay in games
17:35 bnchs; are you guys drunk?
17:35 schestowitz; bnchs: not how I'd put it, 2 are proprietary
17:35 schestowitz; which I do not like
17:35 schestowitz; the other is mono trap
17:35 schestowitz; another needs to delete github
17:36 schestowitz; all are problematic
17:36 schestowitz; welcome to the "linux" gaming world
17:36 schestowitz; at least no rootkit ^_^
17:36 schestowitz; this time around (anticheat)
17:36 SomeH4x0r; schestowitz: fuck modern games. Ignore them, permanently.
17:36 SomeH4x0r; there are enough games of the past which work
17:37 schestowitz; this is true
17:37 bnchs; steam = proprietary | spyware (anti-cheat). unity = proprietary | mono trap | spyware. discord = proprietary | spyware. godot = the only good one, just delete the github
17:37 schestowitz; I mentioned my position on this last year
17:37 schestowitz; we need to weak people off Windows
17:37 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2020/12/05/gnu-linux-and-gamers/
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17:37 TR Bot; Bringing DRM to GNU/Linux to Attract the Stereotypical Gamers | Techrights
17:37 schestowitz; 14 months ago
17:37 schestowitz; short story
17:37 bnchs; modern games are just gambling hell nowadays
17:37 schestowitz; I dislike DRM and all this crap
17:37 SomeH4x0r; even singleplayer?
17:37 schestowitz; but this is strategic
17:38 schestowitz; I later found out RMS is on the same boar
17:38 schestowitz; get them off Windows first
17:38 schestowitz; then show them freedom-respecting things
17:38 bnchs; valve games also have the trend of trading and gambling and shit
17:38 SomeH4x0r; my opinion is that "either you benefit a small group of people, or you cause damage to everyone"
17:38 schestowitz; games are a bit different IMHO
17:38 SomeH4x0r; so I don't want to interact with big communities anymore, when I can avoid them
17:39 bnchs; they figured out how to apply real world currency value on a virtual item
17:39 schestowitz; because unlike driver hell you can sort of compartmentalise them away
17:39 schestowitz; I don't game
17:39 SomeH4x0r; bnchs: it was since the beginning of copyright, afaik
17:39 schestowitz; MinceR: afaik botond is the only capsule in hungarian
17:39 schestowitz; *hungarian
17:40 MinceR; _()_/
17:40 schestowitz; I surfed the whole thing
17:40 schestowitz; "My goal with this capsule is to share fun and useful things to entertain the reader - and create more content to make geminispace a better place. I haven't yet found any capsules in my native language so I'll mostly focus on building the Hungarian part of the site but I'll gradually translate everything into English so please check back later if you're interested."
17:40 SomeH4x0r; but "digital distribution" is exactly this. You pay for some record in a database.
17:40 schestowitz; gemini://botond.online/en/about.gmi
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17:40 SomeH4x0r; fuck the copyright, I don't care what "LICENSE" they put there, as long as I can access the code
17:40 schestowitz; he has some nice code-generated art
17:40 bnchs; valve games also have the trend of gatekeeping and isolating people who don't want to pay (F2P vs P2P), and also restricting their rights in every update
17:41 schestowitz; not only valve
17:41 schestowitz; epic and others also, i suppose
17:41 schestowitz; games and ganbling are connected
17:41 schestowitz; and the overzealous streaming monopolies of "sport"
17:42 schestowitz; that would knock down your door in raids if you 'insult' their copyright monopolies
17:43 SomeH4x0r; but they can't arrest everyone. Though if anyone cares (I consider society to be dead)...
17:43 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 6.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 132.26 average k/sec., average swarm size 256.47
17:46 schestowitz; ok, that's you
17:46 schestowitz; bbiab
17:46 schestowitz; want to record something about gemini://
18:07 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/meet-clinton,-the-best-cat-in-the-world:e (mirror: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q9o0-oPPTk )
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18:07 Alternative link; Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/meet-clinton,-the-best-cat-in-the-world:e
18:07 TR Bot; Meet Clinton, the best cat in the world
18:07 TR Bot; Clinton, the best cat in the world - YouTube
18:08 psydroid2; https://osgameclones.com/
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18:08 TR Bot; Open Source Game Clones
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18:26 SomeH4x0r; clickbait
18:27 TR News; After 2 Years of Development, Peppermint OS Is Here http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161043#comment-32715
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18:27 TR Bot; Peppermint OS 11 Released After 3 Years in Development, Now Based on Debian and Xfce | Tux Machines
18:33 TR News; Using #GeckoLinux to resurrect my old #nettop | Fitzcarraldos Blog https://fitzcarraldoblog.wordpress.com/2022/02/03/using-geckolinux-to-resurrect-my-old-nettop/ #fitzcarraldowordpress
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18:33 TR Bot; Using GeckoLinux to resurrect my old nettop | Fitzcarraldo's Blog
18:37 TR News; #LinuxFoundation has turned Linux.com into its own, self-serving, sponsored-bought marketing spam
18:38 TR News; #LinuxFoundation even hired a Microsofter to run Linux.com as "Editorial Director" http://techrights.org/2022/02/02/lets-talk-linux-com/
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18:38 TR Bot; Linux.com Used to Clock Millions of Hits Every Week, But Linux Foundation Can Barely Keep Thousands | Techrights
18:39 TR News; #KDEneon 20220203 is out. https://neon.kde.org/ #kde #gnu #linux #freesw
18:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: kde.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://neon.kde.org/
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18:39 TR Bot; KDE neon
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18:53 TR News; #microsott #clownstrike is really viciously attacking #linux with FUD again. Link omitted but see http://techrights.org/2022/01/13/microsoft-connected-fud-pr/ #crowdstrike
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18:53 TR Bot; 2022 Commences With Microsoft-Themed (and Microsoft-Connected) FUD Against GNU/Linux | Techrights
18:54 TR News; #Archcraft February Release Available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161063 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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18:54 TR Bot; Archcraft February Release Available | Tux Machines
18:57 TR News; #LinuxMagazine Latest Issue Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161064 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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18:57 TR Bot; Linux Magazine Latest Issue | Tux Machines
19:02 DaemonFC; I wonder how much China is making off of all of these COVID tests and face masks now that their virus is never going away.
19:02 DaemonFC; All of this stuff says made in China.
19:02 DaemonFC; Maybe the US economy can recover if we release a virus and then sell people test kits and masks for it.
19:03 DaemonFC; They did up the vaccine or test mandate and then made it hard to find enough acceptable tests at around the same time to pressure people into taking an experimental vaccine.
19:04 DaemonFC; The state has been on a tear figuring out reasons to shut down testing clinics it was fine with before.
19:05 DaemonFC; schestowitz, At least I've got a pile of free quick tests now. That's nice.
19:05 DaemonFC; The urgent care was charging people $400 for a visit to take a test that costs $8.99 retail.
19:05 TR News; 500 Commits, Videos Over #GeminiProtocol , and New (Abbreviated) Statistics Page for Gemini Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/gemin-status-and-stats/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/03/gemin-status-and-stats/
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19:06 TR Bot; 500 Commits, Videos Over Gemini Protocol, and New (Abbreviated) Statistics Page for Gemini | Techrights
19:06 DaemonFC; I like how all of these at home tests are out there now and they cost less than 10% of the cost of going to the doctor and getting a lab interpretation.
19:07 DaemonFC; When I was looking at COVID self-tests, I found a 7 panel at home STI test that retails for $149.99 that tells you if you have HIV 1 or 2, Syphilis, Gonorrhea, Chlamydia, Trichomoniasis, and Hepatitis C.
19:08 DaemonFC; If you have no insurance and you go to a doctor and get tested for all of that, you'll walk away with lab bills for over $1,000 and a doctor's visit for $400-500.
19:08 DaemonFC; It's no wonder doctors don't want you to be able to test yourself.
19:08 DaemonFC; You can do it once or twice a year. Usually it's nothing, and you don't have to go to the doctor unless it is, and you already know what's wrong.
19:11 DaemonFC; Doctors don't like this for the same reason divorce lawyers don't like online software that files your divorce papers and serves your spouse. People see that it'll cost $700 to do it with software and $25,000 to each get a lawyer, and suddenly a lot of them aren't contesting anything anymore, and then the software works.
19:13 DaemonFC; Lawyers spent all this time and lobbying effort trying to make the courts inaccessible to the public much like doctors don't want you to go around them and know anything about your own health.
19:14 DaemonFC; It was so expensive and complicated to get a divorce that mom told me that she knows several people who just stayed married, on paper, and moved out, and got different houses, and started living with the next person.
19:14 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/806858.jpg
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19:15 DaemonFC; Because it was too complicated and expensive to even begin using the courts to get a divorce.
19:15 DaemonFC; And then once you get in there, the judge starts assigning debts and splitting up property and accounts, and you don't know who it will be the bigger disaster for.
19:15 DaemonFC; So yes, it keeps the marriage intact, sort of, but in the worst possible way.
19:16 XRevan86; MinceR: Not own, have a unique record associated with it.
19:20 TR News; The collapse of #mozilla continues https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/news/update-on-firefox-reality/ bad, incompetent management largely to blame http://techrights.org/wiki/Mozilla
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19:20 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/news/update-on-firefox-reality/
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19:20 TR Bot; Update on Firefox Reality
19:20 TR Bot; Mozilla - Techrights
19:22 TR News; "The server was reconfigured to launch a #Canonical #Ubuntu virtual machine that stored data and ran an application that blockchained the results, which were sent back to Earth." http://spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=59337 #gnu #linux
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19:22 TR Bot; The Edge of the Cloud is Now in Space
19:23 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I saw a year by year animation of browser share by browser.
19:24 DaemonFC; Microsoft Edge is cannibalizing what was left of IE, and nothing more, and Firefox is being Internet Explorer'd by Google Chrome.
19:24 DaemonFC; Safari is treading water.
19:24 TR News; #ibm lays off tons of staff while promoting this fiction of all these unemployed people are doing so wilfully https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/2/it-careers-is-it-time-join-great-resignation
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19:24 TR Bot; IT careers: Is it time to join The Great Resignation? | The Enterprisers Project
19:25 DaemonFC; Firefox went from having nearly half of all Web users and being impossible to ignore, to having 4% and users running into site bugs or demands to come back using Chrome.
19:25 DaemonFC; Google is doing what Microsoft did in the 1990s.
19:26 DaemonFC; They add things without going through any standards process and then developers use it and they don't care if it's a standard or not, and Google makes their own websites hard to use properly without it. An advantage that not even Microsoft ever really had.
19:27 DaemonFC; Now they're at a point where they can just keep adding malicious features that their users don't want, and it's impossible to resist in a meaningful way because if you use another browser some of the Web won't work right.
19:27 TR News; The above video takes stock of some work and observations from today; were investing more and more of our collective efforts in #Geminispace , which rapidly expands despite the medias apathy (refusal to even mention it) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/gemin-status-and-stats/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW
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19:27 TR Bot; 500 Commits, Videos Over Gemini Protocol, and New (Abbreviated) Statistics Page for Gemini | Techrights
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19:28 DaemonFC; I don't know how much longer Firefox ESR will be a thing.
19:28 DaemonFC; Chrome changes so fast now that if you're using ESR, you run into a lot of problems that even the latest release of Firefox has worked around somehow. But even if you use regular Firefox, most of the problems happen.
19:29 DaemonFC; When Google said it was deprecating the webkit vendor prefix because things were getting crazy, what they really meant was they were removing Apple's ability to throw any weight around because Chrome would implement it the next time they rebased.
19:30 DaemonFC; THey want to marginalize Firefox because it still lets you do a few things that aggravate them.
19:31 DaemonFC; It has better ad blocking than Chrome's new Manifest and it lets you save Youtube videos and skip their ads and sponsors.
19:31 TR News; Last time #OSI tries running an election it failed repeatedly, but now this https://opensource.org/blog/osi-board-elections-2022 see http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/osi-privacy-issues/
=> ↺ https://opensource.org/blog/osi-board-elections-2022
=> http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/osi-privacy-issues/
19:31 TR Bot; OSI Board Elections 2022 | Open Source Initiative | Guaranteeing the 'our' in source...
19:31 TR Bot; The OSIs Defunct Elections (Privacy Breach), Conflict of Interest (Nicholson), and Other Lingering Problems | Techrights
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19:32 DaemonFC; The RIAA is pissed about Spotify and Youtube rippers.
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19:33 bnchs; rippers gonna rip
19:33 DaemonFC; Because the truth is that even if you want the 100 top songs of the last 50 years, that's still only like 5,000 songs. It's just not that many. It includes almost everything that still gets a lot of radio play, and then you never have to subscribe to anything again to listen to that.
19:33 bnchs; RIAA gonna always be pissed
19:33 TR News; #PipeWire 0.3.45 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/tags/0.3.45 "This is a bugfix release that is API and ABI compatible with previous 0.3.x releases."
=> ↺ https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/tags/0.3.45
19:33 TR Bot; 0.3.45 Tags PipeWire / pipewire GitLab
19:34 DaemonFC; You can store 5,000 songs without an SD card in MP3 format on a $20 MP3 player.
19:34 bnchs; poeple rip music from spotify, which IIRC they use ogg files for the music
19:34 bnchs; which means the music is lossy and might sound like shit to a non-human
19:34 DaemonFC; It's like some crazy setting though. Higher than anyone would actually use to store it locally.
19:35 activelow; most of the "music" is horrible quality; in particular with compression/re-encoding (any codec such as mp3, ogg), because ...
19:35 bnchs; i would rather pick FLACs ripped from CDs than spotify
19:35 activelow; those encoders need digital headroom, and the audio-signals are clipped already before fed into a re-encoder (mp3,ogg)
19:35 DaemonFC; Well, back in the late 90s, just going from a CD to an MP3 was worse than taking a 320k Ogg Vorbis file and transcoding it to 320k MP3 today.
19:36 DaemonFC; The MP3 codecs back then were just really bad, and people still used them anyway and mostly didn't notice.
19:36 activelow; FLAC won't introduce additional clipping, however the original productions on audio CD are already clipped horribly, almost always
19:36 DaemonFC; Most of the pirates weren't licensing the "good" encoders that used FhG MP3.
19:37 DaemonFC; They were just compiling ISO encoders or forks of the ISO encoder that made it faster.
19:37 DaemonFC; So you got extremely broken encoding routines and that went straight out to file sharing.
19:37 DaemonFC; And it was enough to inflict serious damage on the record labels.
19:37 activelow; furthermore, once a digital audio signal was ruined with any processing (dynamic range compression, clipping etc) this cannot be recovered anymore
19:37 TR News; Congrats to @mariusNestor now that #9to5Linux is listed in #gulagNoise (Google 'News') along with all that spam and #plagiarism ... 9to5Linux can raise the s/n ratio.
19:38 activelow; the problem isn't the encoders itself, most of them are audibly transparent, the problem is missing headroom such encoders require for signal sampling
19:38 DaemonFC; There's still the ISO demo codec you can look at. It released with a C89 implementation for "Linux".
19:38 DaemonFC; psy.c is completely broken.
19:38 TR News; "he has not visited a traditional website for a long time, and mostly sees content through centralized, specialized platforms like YouTube, Medium and Twitter" https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/11/websites-are-dead-is-not-the-whole-picture/
=> ↺ https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/11/websites-are-dead-is-not-the-whole-picture/
19:38 TR Bot; "Websites are dead" is NOT the whole picture | Stop at Zona-M
19:38 DaemonFC; They had to demonstrate how to make a valid file, not how to do so well.
19:38 DaemonFC; Now the ISO is even worse.
19:38 bnchs; I'm still looking for a FLAC torrent for a CD
19:39 DaemonFC; They standardize the internal state of Microsoft Office into "standards" without any demonstration of how to actually produce that state or to save it in such a way that it actually works in Microsoft Office.
19:39 DaemonFC; "I like money!"
19:39 activelow; most of the audio cd material or any "music" on youtube isn't worth listening to anymore, nowadays
19:39 DaemonFC; Mr. Goolag and his buddy Miguel love it.
19:40 bnchs; I don't know whats the difference between Microsoft Office and LibreOffice
19:40 DaemonFC; Of course, one works at Microsoft officially now and was always a brown nose, and the other one works for them under the table and pretends to be less of a brown nose.
19:40 activelow; besides, most of what the "music industry" is selling, is involation of public health concerns, because the material is not bs1770/EBU-128 compliant
19:40 bnchs; but M$hills like to make as if LibreOffice is unstable and shitty
19:40 TR News; Breath of fresh air: v7.3 of LibreOffice boasts improved file importing and rendering http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160996#comment-32716
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160996#comment-32716
19:40 TR Bot; LibreOffice 7.3 Open-Source Office Suite Officially Released, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines
19:40 activelow; *in violation
19:40 DaemonFC; bbiab
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19:41 bnchs; good timing
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19:42 bnchs; lossy audio codecs rely on an arbitary hearing range
19:47 TR News; #censorship increasingly promoted as a "health" issue https://news.trust.org/item/20220202151244-ivrm8
=> ↺ https://news.trust.org/item/20220202151244-ivrm8
19:47 TR Bot; Joe Rogan, Spotify: how tech firms tackle Covid misinformation
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19:48 TR News; Conflicted sentiments: Analysing Budget 2022-23 trends https://internetfreedom.in/budget-session-2022-23/ #internetfreedom #india #in
=> ↺ https://internetfreedom.in/budget-session-2022-23/
19:48 Alternative link; Cloudflare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/budget-session-2022-23/
=> ↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/budget-session-2022-23/
19:48 TR Bot; Conflicted sentiments: Analysing Budget 2022-23 trends
19:48 bnchs; "Rogan has drawn criticism for saying young people don't need vaccination"
19:49 bnchs; he's right you know
19:49 TR News; At least they say "algorithmic" and not "HEY HI" https://www.accessnow.org/us-algorithmic-accountability-act/
=> ↺ https://www.accessnow.org/us-algorithmic-accountability-act/
19:49 Alternative link; Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/us-algorithmic-accountability-act/
=> ↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/us-algorithmic-accountability-act/
19:49 TR Bot; Algorithmic decision-making in the U.S. needs accountability - Access Now
19:49 bnchs; a virus that only targets grandpas and fatasses can't kill kids
19:50 TR News; Bruce Schneier boosting the #nsa is... weird. But Bruce Schneier disappointed me a huge deal lately. https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/02/interview-with-the-head-of-the-nsas-research-directorate.html
19:50 TR Bot; with the Head of the NSAs Research Directorate - Schneier on Security
19:51 TR News; Legislative Brief on #DigitalRights for Budget Session 2022 https://internetfreedom.in/legislative-brief-budget-session-2022/ #india #internet #in
=> ↺ https://internetfreedom.in/legislative-brief-budget-session-2022/
19:51 Alternative link; Cloudflare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/legislative-brief-budget-session-2022/
=> ↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/legislative-brief-budget-session-2022/
19:51 TR Bot; Legislative Brief on Digital Rights for Budget Session 2022
19:52 TR News; #Arduino Activated Automotive Aerodynamic Apparatus is (Spoiler Alert!) https://hackaday.com/2022/02/03/arduino-activated-automotive-aerodynamic-apparatus-is-spoiler-alert/
19:52 TR Bot; Activated Automotive Aerodynamic Apparatus Is (Spoiler Alert!) | Hackaday
19:53 TR News; #PCB Stepper Motor #MicroRobots | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/03/pcb-stepper-motor-micro-robots/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/03/#latest
=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/02/03/pcb-stepper-motor-micro-robots/
=> ↺ http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/03/#latest
19:53 TR Bot; Stepper Motor Micro Robots | Hackaday
19:53 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
19:53 TR News; #cisco junk (where #backdoors are likely the actual goal): "A remote attacker could exploitsomeof these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/02/03/cisco-releases-security-updates-rv-series-routers
19:53 TR Bot; Cisco Releases Security Updates for RV Series Routers | CISA
19:55 TR News; #linux #kernel has a short shelf life these days. The priority is piling up a ton of crap without other considerations prioritised. https://lwn.net/Articles/883685/rss
=> ↺ https://lwn.net/Articles/883685/rss
19:55 TR Bot; final 4.4 stable kernel has been released [LWN.net]
19:56 TR News; I have a collague who says Gulag is your friend. Except he does not call it "Gulag"...
19:57 bnchs; gulag is like that "friend" who only acts like a friend to you for money
19:58 TR News; "One of the original creators of the Hudi project at Uber has launched a new company that is set to bring a managed service to market to operationalize clown #spying lakes." https://searchdatamanagement.techtarget.com/news/252512861/Onehouse-emerges-with-managed-Apache-Hudi-data-lake-service
19:58 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techtarget.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://searchdatamanagement.techtarget.com/news/252512861/Onehouse-emerges-with-managed-Apache-Hudi-data-lake-service
19:58 TR Bot; Onehouse emerges with managed Apache Hudi data lake service
19:59 activelow; meanwhile, verified portable c compiler for arm-linux: short summary, fail. not supported.
19:59 TR News; #ibm #redhat has once again outsourced to #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware ... this will erode morale and professional pride. Workers will flee faster. https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/02/03/build-rest-api-ground-quarkus-20
=> ↺ https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/02/03/build-rest-api-ground-quarkus-20
19:59 TR Bot; Build a REST API from the ground up with Quarkus 2.0 | Red Hat Developer
20:00 activelow; next one TinyCC, from F. Bellard
20:00 bnchs; proprietary games have much more shittier security than free software games
20:00 bnchs; i remember playing on my PS3, and got my IP leaked thousands of times by angry gamers
20:01 schestowitz; this is true
20:01 schestowitz; but that's partly because they open more channels
20:01 schestowitz; to spy on you
20:01 bnchs; sometimes they even crash/freeze the game, even the hardcore ones execute arbitary code
20:01 schestowitz; free software stuff doesn't phone mother ship or send data around
20:01 schestowitz; [19:48] "Rogan has drawn criticism for saying young people don't need vaccination"
20:02 schestowitz; if that's ALL he was criticised for, then the media failed to do its job
20:02 schestowitz; I didn't see what he had actually said
20:02 schestowitz; you'd think he said worse things (maybe he did)
20:02 schestowitz; COVID-19 is mostly an "old people's disease"
20:02 schestowitz; it affects them far more profoundly
20:02 schestowitz; the stats make it clear
20:03 bnchs; https://news.trust.org/item/20220202151244-ivrm8
=> ↺ https://news.trust.org/item/20220202151244-ivrm8
20:03 TR Bot; Joe Rogan, Spotify: how tech firms tackle Covid misinformation
20:03 schestowitz; http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/01/01/nhs-covid19/
=> ↺ http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/01/01/nhs-covid19/
20:03 TR Bot; Blog Archive NHS (UK) Survey of COVID-19-Linked Deaths: 79% of the Fatalities Did Receive COVID-19 Vaccines (But Theres a Caveat)
20:05 bnchs; having your IP leaked is a meme
20:06 TR News; What the world is turning into https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/02/police-robodogs-are-all-called-toldya/
=> ↺ https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/02/police-robodogs-are-all-called-toldya/
20:06 TR Bot; Police robodogs are all called ToldYa | Stop at Zona-M
20:08 TR News; #Zemlin and friends, who don't use Linux, fronting for and #openwashing #banksters https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/finos-the-fintech-open-source-foundation-and-financial-sector-project-of-the-linux-foundation-announces-name-change-and-2022-dates-for-open-source-in-finance-forum-301474849.html
20:08 Alternative link; Cloudflare: prnewswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/finos-the-fintech-open-source-foundation-and-financial-sector-project-of-the-linux-foundation-announces-name-change-and-2022-dates-for-open-source-in-finance-forum-301474849.html
20:08 TR Bot; FINOS, the Fintech Open Source Foundation and Financial Sector Project of The Linux Foundation, Announces Name Change and 2022 Dates for Open Source in Finance Forum
20:09 TR News; Seems to me like another promotional #SPAM as there is no connection to Linux or anything or relevance https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/02/03/foldable-portable-laser-cutter-engraver-comes-with-built-in-fume-filtration/
20:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/02/03/foldable-portable-laser-cutter-engraver-comes-with-built-in-fume-filtration/
20:10 TR Bot; Foldable, portable laser cutter & engraver comes with built-in fume filtration (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software
20:10 bnchs; i hope steam deck can run other OSes
20:10 *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights
20:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 18.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 256.54
20:10 TR News; "Crystal is a general-purpose, concurrent, multi-paradigm, object-oriented #programming language." https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-books-learn-crystal/
=> ↺ https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-books-learn-crystal/
20:10 TR Bot; Excellent Free Books to Learn Crystal - LinuxLinks
20:10 bnchs; i don't want it to be as wasteful as game consoles
20:11 TR News; 3D Printed Circular Prototype Performance Prop Captivates Circus Spectators | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/02/3d-printed-circular-prototype-performance-prop-captivates-circus-spectators/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/03/#latest
=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/02/02/3d-printed-circular-prototype-performance-prop-captivates-circus-spectators/
=> ↺ http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/03/#latest
20:11 TR Bot; Printed Circular Prototype Performance Prop Captivates Circus Spectators | Hackaday
20:11 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
20:12 TR News; "The StarlingX project offers a complete software stack for edge and IoT deployments, with support for code running in containers or virtual machines." https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/03/starlingx_60_takes_openstack_to/ #openstack
=> ↺ https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/03/starlingx_60_takes_openstack_to/
20:12 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/03/starlingx_60_takes_openstack_to/
20:12 TR Bot; OpenStack-to-the-edge darling StarlingX hits 6.0 The Register
20:13 TR News; Forget Sudoku, Build Yourself A Minimalist Rubiks Solver Robot | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/02/forget-sudoku-build-yourself-a-minimalist-rubiks-solver-robot/ #hackaday
=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/02/02/forget-sudoku-build-yourself-a-minimalist-rubiks-solver-robot/
20:13 TR Bot; Sudoku, Build Yourself A Minimalist Rubiks Solver Robot | Hackaday
20:14 TR News; Fake economy, scam economy, fake coins, scam coins... fake assets, too https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/11/incoherence-of-cryptoassets-the-best-parts/
=> ↺ https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/11/incoherence-of-cryptoassets-the-best-parts/
20:14 TR Bot; Incoherence of cryptoassets, the best parts | Stop at Zona-M
20:16 TR News; USA, Inc. #1 export: money printing, taking loans, handing them over to Wall Street, then declaring "success" while 99% of the population chokes on #debt and #inflation
20:17 TR News; Gulag "software" isn't easy to use at all. Just like #microsoft they blame the users when they're failing to make things work... #gulag #victimblaming
20:23 TR News; #SoftwareDefinedStorage : Does the model still work? https://koutoupis.com/2022/02/03/software-defined-storage-does-the-model-still-work/ #sds
=> ↺ https://koutoupis.com/2022/02/03/software-defined-storage-does-the-model-still-work/
20:23 TR Bot; Software Defined Storage: Does the model still work? Random [Tech] Stuff
20:23 TR News; #GNOME Shell Removes its Curvy Panel Corners Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161065 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161065
20:23 TR Bot; GNOME Shell Removes its Curvy Panel Corners | Tux Machines
20:23 SomeH4x0r; good
20:26 TR News; Filter bubbles are out, eco chambers are in https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/01/filter-bubbles-are-out-eco-chambers-are-in/ #gulag #imperialism #misinformation
=> ↺ https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/01/filter-bubbles-are-out-eco-chambers-are-in/
20:26 TR Bot; Filter bubbles are out, eco chambers are in | Stop at Zona-M
20:28 TR News; #greenwashing "The paradox is that it is much easier to achieve that goal if the batteries contain highly toxic, highly troublesome substances, that is if they are made in the most anti-ecological way possible." https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/11/the-big-paradox-of-green-recyclable-batteries/
=> ↺ https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/11/the-big-paradox-of-green-recyclable-batteries/
20:28 TR Bot; The big paradox of green, recyclable batteries | Stop at Zona-M
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20:39 TR News; #ACPI Platform Profile support for #Lenovo AMD-based systems on Linux is broken https://wccftech.com/acpi-platform-profile-support-for-lenovo-amd-based-systems-on-linux-broken/ #wccftech
=> ↺ https://wccftech.com/acpi-platform-profile-support-for-lenovo-amd-based-systems-on-linux-broken/
20:39 TR Bot; ACPI Platform Profile support for Lenovo AMD-based systems on Linux is broken
20:40 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/806730.jpg
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20:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/806730.jpg
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20:42 TR News; This has nothing to do with #linux and a lot of this is #gnu https://www.networkworld.com/article/3648909/turn-tabs-into-spaces-on-linux-and-vice-versa.html
=> ↺ https://www.networkworld.com/article/3648909/turn-tabs-into-spaces-on-linux-and-vice-versa.html
20:42 TR Bot; Turn tabs into spaces on Linux and vice versa | Network World
20:43 bnchs; shut up retard, GNU coreutils belongs to Linux
20:43 TR News; Delays hold back #AMD HIP #Linux GPU Acceleration for #Blender3d 3.2 release https://wccftech.com/delays-hold-back-amd-hip-linux-gpu-acceleration-for-blender-3-2-release/
=> ↺ https://wccftech.com/delays-hold-back-amd-hip-linux-gpu-acceleration-for-blender-3-2-release/
20:43 TR Bot; Delays hold back AMD HIP Linux GPU Acceleration for Blender 3.2 release
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20:44 MinceR; they don't have a replacement for coreutils in systemd yet?
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20:46 TR News; But DUDE... where would that power (charge) come FROM? Air??? https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/11/an-idea-whose-time-may-be-close-battery-powered-trains/
=> ↺ https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/11/an-idea-whose-time-may-be-close-battery-powered-trains/
20:46 TR Bot; An idea whose time may be close: battery-powered TRAINS | Stop at Zona-M
20:47 *CParadoxum_ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights
20:48 XFaCE; MinceR: what happens when systemd gets a replacement for systemd within systemd
20:48 MinceR; lol
20:48 MinceR; the simulation we live in crashes and the world as we knew it ends
20:48 TR News; The "money grows on trees" mentality/mindset has morphed into "batteries just get charged... by SOMETHING"
20:50 bnchs; what if you kill pid 0
20:51 bnchs; does the coreutils crash
20:51 schestowitz; sudo systemctl enable coreutild
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21:01 TR News; #OpenSSF wants us to think back doors partners of the NSA will make Free software more secure; it's hardly about security, it is world domination https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/02/02/openssf-alpha-omega-project/ see http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/
=> ↺ https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/02/02/openssf-alpha-omega-project/
=> http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/
21:01 TR Bot; OpenSSF announces Alpha-Omega Project to improve global OSS supply chain security - Help Net Security
21:01 TR Bot; With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like Its About Back Doors Not Real Security Inside the Linux Foundation | Techrights
21:02 TR News; #ProprietarySoftware again. https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/02/03/cisa-releases-security-advisory-airspan-networks-mimosa
21:02 TR Bot; CISA Releases Security Advisory for Airspan Networks Mimosa | CISA
21:03 TR News; "This advisory contains mitigations for Improper Authorization, Incorrect Authorization, Server-side Request Forgery, SQL Injection, Deserialization of Untrusted Data, OS Command Injection, and Use of a Broken or Risky Cryptographic Algorithm vulnerabilities in Airspan Networks Mimosa network management software." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-034-02
=> ↺ https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-034-02
21:03 TR Bot; Airspan Networks Mimosa | CISA
21:06 TR News; #mozilla kills #FirefoxReality and now it becomes #Wolvic and is outsourced to #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware (so you know it'll circle down the drain or be co-opted by criminals from Microsoft)
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21:10 TR News; #ProprietarySoftware garbage from a very garbage company https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/microsoft-responds-to-onedrive-mac-user-criticism-following-decision-to-enforce-files-on-demand-feature.2333594/
21:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: macrumors.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/microsoft-responds-to-onedrive-mac-user-criticism-following-decision-to-enforce-files-on-demand-feature.2333594/
21:10 TR Bot; Microsoft Responds to OneDrive Mac User Criticism Following Decision to Enforce Files On-Demand Feature | MacRumors Forums
21:11 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/748880.jpg
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21:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/748880.jpg
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21:14 schestowitz; LOLOLOLOLOL https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-2021-Product-Security
=> ↺ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-2021-Product-Security
21:14 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-2021-Product-Security
21:14 TR Bot; Publishes 2021 Product Security Report - Phoronix
21:14 schestowitz; intel scoring itself
21:14 schestowitz; no connection to Linux
21:14 schestowitz; Intel is NOT designed for security
21:14 schestowitz; my guess is,
21:15 schestowitz; Phoronix is designed to obey
21:15 schestowitz; new PR to roll out like a red carpet
21:15 AdmFubar; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/malicious-csv-text-files-used-to-install-bazarbackdoor-malware/
21:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/malicious-csv-text-files-used-to-install-bazarbackdoor-malware/
21:15 TR Bot; Malicious CSV text files used to install BazarBackdoor malware
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21:19 TR News; Renowned? Never heard of the guy... https://wideworldmag.co.uk/news/renowned-linux-security-expert-hal-pomeranz-joins-spyderbats-board-of-advisors/
21:19 Alternative link; Cloudflare: wideworldmag.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://wideworldmag.co.uk/news/renowned-linux-security-expert-hal-pomeranz-joins-spyderbats-board-of-advisors/
21:19 TR Bot; Renowned Linux Security Expert Hal Pomeranz Joins Spyderbat's Board of Advisors - World Wide Magazine
21:20 TR News; #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161066 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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21:20 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
21:22 TR News; #ZorinOS 16 Education is a Linux Distro That Makes Learning More Accessible http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161061#comment-32719
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21:22 TR Bot; Zorin OS 16 Education Launches with New Educational Apps, System Improvements | Tux Machines
21:26 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show an overview of #LinuxLite 5.8 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zAG2AgTzFmc #gnu #linux
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21:26 TR Bot; Linux Lite 5.8 overview | The free, easy to use operating system. - Invidious
21:27 TR News; " #System76 reveals a new tool to make Pop's desktop faster than the rest, and we break down that recent #Btrfs defrag infinite loop bug." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147562/linux-action-news-226/ #gnu #linux
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21:27 Alternative link; Cloudflare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147562/linux-action-news-226/
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21:27 TR Bot; Linux Action News 226 | Jupiter Broadcasting
21:27 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161067 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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21:27 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
21:28 TR News; "Most major #GNU #Linux distros offer debug packages but one of them stood out, that being #ArchLinux but soon that will be changing." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FKoyqkahISI
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21:28 TR Bot; Arch Linux Is Finally Getting Debug Packages!! - Invidious
21:33 TR News; #gulag is working with and for criminals from #microsoft with their #nsa #backdoors https://www.xda-developers.com/flutter-2-10-windows-apps/ why would you want to invest time/effort learning Flutter? Shared interests of espionage-centric companies (they are the ones committing the espionage).
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21:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: xda-developers.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.xda-developers.com/flutter-2-10-windows-apps/
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21:33 TR Bot; Flutter 2.10 arrives with stable support for building Windows apps
21:34 TR News; Videos/Audiocasts/Show: Arch Linux Is Finally Getting Debug Packages, Linux Action News, and Linux Lite 5.8 Overview Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161068 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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21:34 TR Bot; Videos/Audiocasts/Show: Arch Linux Is Finally Getting Debug Packages, Linux Action News, and Linux Lite 5.8 Overview | Tux Machines
21:35 bnchs; they're calling BSD sockets "Linux sockets"
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21:37 TR News; "We have, in Western society, managed to simultaneously botch the dreams of democracy, capitalism, social coherence, and techno-utopianism, all at once. Its embarrassing actually. I am embarrassed. You should be embarrassed." https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/12/the-growing-malaise/
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21:37 TR Bot; The growing malaise | Stop at Zona-M
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21:37 MinceR; they keep misspelling "systemd-kerneld"
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21:37 MinceR; it's embarrassing.
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21:40 TR News; Robot Controllers... "Exploitable remotely" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-243-02
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21:40 TR Bot; FANUC Robot Controllers (Update A) | CISA
21:40 TR News; #Ubuntu vs. #elementaryOS: Which Is the Right Linux Distro for You? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161069 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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21:40 TR Bot; Ubuntu vs. elementary OS: Which Is the Right Linux Distro for You? | Tux Machines
21:42 AdmFubar; https://www.databreaches.net/fbi-says-more-cyber-attacks-come-from-china-than-everywhere-else-combined/
21:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: databreaches.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.databreaches.net/fbi-says-more-cyber-attacks-come-from-china-than-everywhere-else-combined/
21:42 TR Bot; FBI says more cyber attacks come from China than everywhere else combined
21:42 TR News; "Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-034-01 "PowerManage"... whose power? Managed by who? Some h4x0r somewhere?
=> ↺ https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-034-01
21:42 TR Bot; Sensormatic PowerManage | CISA
21:42 schestowitz-TR; AdmFubar: betterhurry up and get rid of WIndows then
21:42 schestowitz-TR; with Windows, attack means breach
21:44 TR News; "Sometimes there are those unremarkable things which let you pause for a moment, and realize what a great gift of our time open source software and open knowledge is." http://sven.stormbind.net/blog/posts/misc_suntime_calc_lua_and_greatfulness_of_oss/
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21:44 TR Bot; Suntime Calculation with Lua and the Great Gift of Open Source
21:46 TR News; #fosslife seems to be posting template spam like that SEO crap that pollutes the #www and makes it #webspam https://www.fosslife.org/it-or-not-it-which-career-path-right-you
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21:46 TR Bot; IT or Not IT: Which Career Path Is Right for You?
21:47 TR News; Ubuntu 22.04 May Offer a Choice of System Accent Colour - OMG! Ubuntu! https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/02/ubuntu-22-04-accent-colors #OMGUbuntu #GNU #Linux #Ubuntu
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21:47 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 May Offer a Choice of System Accent Colour - OMG! Ubuntu!
21:49 TR News; How to turn a #gnu #linux desktop into a noise machine like a #spyphone https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/02/ubuntu-22-04-ubuntu-pro-notification
=> ↺ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/02/ubuntu-22-04-ubuntu-pro-notification
21:49 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 Dailies Show an Ubuntu Pro Notification on Login - OMG! Ubuntu!
21:51 TR News; "I Hate gl_PointSize And So Can You" https://www.supergoodcode.com/here-we-go/
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21:51 TR Bot; Here We Go Mike Blumenkrantz Super. Good. Code.
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21:59 TR News; So... How do you get started with open source contributions? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161070 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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21:59 TR Bot; So... How do you get started with open source contributions? | Tux Machines
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22:00 DaemonFC; they're calling BSD sockets "Linux sockets"
22:00 DaemonFC; Why not? Everything open source is Linux.
22:00 schestowitz-TR; lol
22:00 schestowitz-TR; it's all linux
22:00 schestowitz-TR; mac is also "linux"
22:00 schestowitz-TR; not Windows? LINUX!
22:00 schestowitz-TR; wordpress is linux
22:01 schestowitz-TR; centos web panel? LINUX!!
22:01 DaemonFC; Some MacRumors Facebook user the other day went over the history of OS X.
22:01 DaemonFC; They said it was based on Linux.
22:01 schestowitz-TR; :-D
22:01 schestowitz-TR; lovely
22:09 SomeH4x0r; schestowitz-TR: MS-DOS too?
22:09 schestowitz-TR; Linux started in AT&T
22:09 schestowitz-TR; before MS-DOS
22:09 schestowitz-TR; ;-)
22:09 -JackFrost/Wallops-Join us in congratulating Slackware on their latest release! Version 15.0 is a milestone release with 5 years in the making, read more at: http://www.slackware.com/announce/15.0.php
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22:17 AdmFubar; https://lifehacker.com/how-to-stop-your-tv-from-tracking-everything-you-watch-1848468914
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22:17 Alternative link; Cloudflare: lifehacker.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lifehacker.com/how-to-stop-your-tv-from-tracking-everything-you-watch-1848468914
22:17 TR Bot; How to Stop Your TV From Tracking Everything You Watch
22:23 MinceR; 03 230051 < schestowitz-TR> not Windows? LINUX!
22:23 MinceR; but windows is also "linux"
22:23 MinceR; WSL!
22:24 psydroid2; soon everything will be Linux
22:24 psydroid2; that's what the Linux Foundation is for
22:24 schestowitz-TR; Zemlinn is Linux
22:24 schestowitz-TR; it's bloated in the head
22:25 schestowitz-TR; Zemlin: Linux is cool,I don't use it
22:25 SomeH4x0r; AdmFubar: "don't choose "smart" TV"
22:25 schestowitz-TR; Also see: I'm vegetarian, but I eat beef
22:25 SomeH4x0r; isn't TV a receiver?
22:26 MinceR; i, too, like to have cows to process my vegetables into beef form for me to eat
22:26 bnchs; i have a dumb tv connected to a MIPS DVB receiver
22:26 bnchs; the receiver runs GNU/Linux
22:26 MinceR; it's a delicious way to eat plant matter
22:27 SomeH4x0r; fuck these companies which stopped broadcasting analog TV
22:27 bnchs; our analog TV is outdated
22:28 SomeH4x0r; "outdated" because they say it is
22:28 bnchs; many channels here still output 576i video
22:28 SomeH4x0r; here they just stopped broadcasting it
22:28 SomeH4x0r; maybe one channel left
22:29 bnchs; sometimes channels hijack each other
22:29 bnchs; we still have analog TV
22:30 bnchs; the receiver records the channels just in case something happens
22:30 TR News; Links 3/2/2022: GNU C Library 2.35 and #ZorinOS 16 Education Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/zorin-os-16-education/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/03/zorin-os-16-education/
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22:30 TR Bot; Links 3/2/2022: GNU C Library 2.35 and Zorin OS 16 Education | Techrights
22:31 TR News; #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161071 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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22:31 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:31 TR News; #LinuxFoundation : OpenSSF, Greenwashing, #Openwashing,and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161072 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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22:31 TR Bot; Linux Foundation: OpenSSF, Greenwashing, Openwashing,and More | Tux Machines
22:32 TR News; #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161073 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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22:32 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:32 TR News; #FreeSoftware Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161074 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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22:32 TR Bot; Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:33 TR News; #OpenHardware /Modding Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161075 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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22:33 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:33 TR News; #Canonical / #Ubuntu : On Ubuntu 22.04 and Adventures in Space Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161076 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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22:33 TR Bot; Canonical/Ubuntu: On Ubuntu 22.04 and Adventures in Space | Tux Machines
22:33 TR News; #Kernel : OpenCL, ACPI, Bootlin, PipeWire Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161077 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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22:33 TR Bot; Kernel: OpenCL, ACPI, Bootlin, PipeWire | Tux Machines
22:38 DaemonFC; Linux started in AT&T
22:39 DaemonFC; Well, the way I hear it, the Army commissioned Linux for the MOBIDIC.
22:40 DaemonFC; "Linux" has swiped a bunch of concepts that surfaced on all kinds of operating systems, both UNIX-like, and not.
22:40 DaemonFC; Including various BSD systems, Solaris, BeOS, and Plan 9.
22:40 DaemonFC; It doesn't behave entirely like any particular type of "UNIX" system. But it's vaguely UNIX-like.
22:41 DaemonFC; But people have retconned everything vaguely UNIX-like as "Linux".
22:43 psydroid2; and then you start macOS starting up and showing all this "Linux" text on your screen
22:44 psydroid2; but "Linux" sucks because you need to use the terminal and have to keep fiddling with your settings
22:44 psydroid2; macOS is polished and doesn't have 1,000 distributions, so it's much better for noobs
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22:45 psydroid2; it also sends all kinds of data back to the mothership to help you with your daily computing tasks
22:45 *kingoffrance hammers post into ground, with sign attached, showing unix family tree graph. next to it, hammers "good luck" road sign meme
22:46 schestowitz-TR; Zemlin: I USE LINUX: THE X in MACOSX stands for LINUX!!
22:46 kingoffrance; i mean, there are non-retconned graphs....good luck :)
22:47 kingoffrance; it is incredibly annoying to see words redefined and nuance lost, but it gets more complicated if one is accurate
22:48 kingoffrance; mac os -> os x -> macos thats almost worse, because it was done on purpose
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22:49 schestowitz; Michael Microbel 1 hour ago: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-MI200-Not-Experimental
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22:49 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-MI200-Not-Experimental
22:49 TR Bot; MI200 "Aldebaran" Linux Driver Support No Longer "Experimental" - Phoronix
22:49 schestowitz; Intel commercial hours ago
22:50 schestowitz; now this...
22:50 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-2021-Product-Security
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22:50 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-2021-Product-Security
22:50 TR Bot; Publishes 2021 Product Security Report - Phoronix
22:50 schestowitz; hardware salesperson
22:50 schestowitz; I'll never see it the same way after they dumped like 50 new cars on him (AMD alone)
22:52 AdmFubar; https://www.pogowasright.org/fed-authorities-hire-data-brokers-to-steal-data/
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22:52 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pogowasright.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pogowasright.org/fed-authorities-hire-data-brokers-to-steal-data/
22:52 TR Bot; Fed authorities hire data brokers to steal data
22:52 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/chicagocrime/man-in-joker-mask-pleads-guilty-to-setting-cpd-squad-car-on-fire-during-riots/
22:52 TR Bot; Man in Joker mask pleads guilty to setting CPD squad car on fire during riots | WGN-TV
22:52 psydroid2; I just wonder why he decided to share that picture
22:52 psydroid2; maybe he feels like the Godfather now or something
22:53 psydroid2; trading chips
22:53 psydroid2; the new gold
22:53 TR News; Is #Adblock Piracy? Is Adblock Illegal? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TiF0VjQS3Mk the companies are companies that HIJACK... YOUR Web browsers to shove malware and misinformation in your face. Right? Arrrrrr??
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22:53 TR Bot; Is Adblock Piracy? Is Adblock Illegal? - Invidious
22:53 psydroid2; living the American Dream
22:54 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: more band per grasm than HP ink cartridges
22:54 schestowitz-TR; *bang
22:55 schestowitz; psydroid2: https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=milan+epyc&_sacat=0
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22:55 TR Bot; milan epyc | eBay
22:56 psydroid2; with all the articles about AMD and Intel he knows he is firmly in the Microsoft camp
22:56 schestowitz; about 3,500-5000 pounds
22:57 schestowitz; "
22:57 schestowitz; Refurbished
22:57 schestowitz; 3,495.99
22:57 schestowitz; "
22:57 schestowitz; ---> Refurbished
22:57 schestowitz; "
22:57 schestowitz; Refurbished
22:57 schestowitz; 3,499.99
22:57 schestowitz; "
22:57 schestowitz; Top 2 results
22:57 schestowitz; "
22:58 schestowitz; Opened never used
22:58 schestowitz; 2,620.00
22:58 schestowitz; "
22:58 schestowitz; "
22:58 schestowitz; Opened never used
22:58 schestowitz; 3,850.00
22:58 schestowitz; "
22:58 schestowitz; top 4 results
22:58 schestowitz; does "opened the crate" count as "opened"?
22:58 psydroid2; those prices are so high because Intel doesn't have anything in the same class of performance
22:58 schestowitz; they are working on it
22:59 schestowitz; but either way, it's the wrong way...
22:59 schestowitz; you might be better off linking many pertinent chips
22:59 psydroid2; if you run GNU/Linux servers and aren't conservative in your choices you can look elsewhere and save a lot of money
22:59 schestowitz; that are low energy, too
22:59 psydroid2; but if you run Windows "servers" it comes down to AMD and Intel
22:59 schestowitz; I've long cautions people not to get "retina" displays with all the hype
23:00 schestowitz; they can instead links several 70-pound screens (20-30 is used) to have something much better for like 5 times cheaper
23:01 psydroid2; both companies are in for a world of hurt if their architecture stops being the dominant one for servers
23:01 psydroid2; because the days of huge margins will be over, as they'll finally have to compete
23:03 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1306106-parallel-x86_64-cpu-bringup-linux-patches-revised-for-quicker-boot-times
23:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1306106-parallel-x86_64-cpu-bringup-linux-patches-revised-for-quicker-boot-times
23:03 TR Bot; x86_64 CPU Bringup Linux Patches Revised For Quicker Boot Times - Phoronix Forums
23:03 schestowitz; picture STILL removed
23:03 schestowitz; still no reply
23:03 schestowitz; Michael hopes nobody will notice
23:05 psydroid2; maybe that picture is still in my cache?
23:05 psydroid2; I can still see it if I go to the article
23:10 TR News; #Slackware 15.0 has been released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161078 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161078
23:10 TR Bot; Slackware 15.0 has been released | Tux Machines
23:10 TR News; #Slackware 15.0 Officially Released, Powered by Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161079 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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23:10 TR Bot; Slackware 15.0 Officially Released, Powered by Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS | Tux Machines
23:10 DaemonFC; I've long cautions people not to get "retina" displays with all the hype
23:10 DaemonFC; Odd screen resolutions are not a great user experience.
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23:11 DaemonFC; Even if your desktop's window manager can deal with it, that's no guarantee your applications and games will.
23:11 TR News; Getting Root On Linux Amplifier Adds New Inputs Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161080 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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23:11 TR Bot; Getting Root On Linux Amplifier Adds New Inputs | Tux Machines
23:11 DaemonFC; And integrated graphics chips may be able to do compositing desktops, but you'll never game at some crazy resolution at a usable speed.
23:13 TR News; #gulag is lining up its more pervasive and widely used #malware https://blog.chromium.org/2022/02/chrome-99-css-cascade-layers-new-picker.html #chrome 100... percent malware
=> ↺ https://blog.chromium.org/2022/02/chrome-99-css-cascade-layers-new-picker.html
23:13 TR Bot; Chromium Blog: Chrome 99: CSS Cascade Layers, a New Picker for Input Elements, and More
23:15 TR News; #jumpclown or #JumpCloud starts by 'patching' platforms back-doored by the #nsa ... talk about exercise in futility ... then again it's #ProprietarySoftware i.e. fake security ... like paying original piece for counterfeits https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/03/jumpcloud_patches/
=> ↺ https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/03/jumpcloud_patches/
23:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/03/jumpcloud_patches/
=> ↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/03/jumpcloud_patches/
23:15 TR Bot; JumpCloud joins the patch management crowd The Register
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23:16 TR News; #nsa #backdoors in your GPU too. Thanks, #intel !! https://wccftech.com/experimental-mesh-shader-support-intel-arc-alchemist-vulkan-linux-driver/
=> ↺ https://wccftech.com/experimental-mesh-shader-support-intel-arc-alchemist-vulkan-linux-driver/
23:16 TR Bot; Experimental Intel ARC Alchemist mesh shader support added to Vulkan Linux driver
23:17 schestowitz-TR; [23:05] I can still see it if I go to the article
23:17 schestowitz-TR; I think it was removed some time around 3am GMT
23:17 schestowitz-TR; no idea why it was removede but not the one in the article
23:17 schestowitz-TR; or the thumbnail in the front page
23:17 schestowitz-TR; my guess:
23:18 schestowitz-TR; he did not like the context in which the picture was shown
23:18 schestowitz-TR; saying it can buy an apartment
23:20 TR News; FANTASTIC new example of "techutopia" or "techfascism" tendencies. TECH you do NOT need! https://hackaday.com/2022/02/03/keep-track-of-toilet-paper-usage-with-this-iot-roll-holder/ shitstatting....
=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/02/03/keep-track-of-toilet-paper-usage-with-this-iot-roll-holder/
23:20 TR Bot; Track Of Toilet Paper Usage With This IoT Roll Holder | Hackaday
23:20 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/why-is-clinton-the-cat-so-mad:3 (mirror: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNN8qkftKAk )
=> ↺ https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/why-is-clinton-the-cat-so-mad:3
=> ↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNN8qkftKAk
23:20 Alternative link; Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/why-is-clinton-the-cat-so-mad:3
=> ↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/why-is-clinton-the-cat-so-mad:3
23:20 TR Bot; Why is Clinton the cat so mad?
23:20 TR Bot; is Clinton the cat so mad? - YouTube
23:20 TR News; Almost literally putting the S in "Internet of SHIT" https://hackaday.com/2022/02/03/keep-track-of-toilet-paper-usage-with-this-iot-roll-holder/
=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/02/03/keep-track-of-toilet-paper-usage-with-this-iot-roll-holder/
23:22 *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights
23:23 schestowitz; MinceR: "mr clinton" likes cigars
23:23 schestowitz; in the cat
23:23 schestowitz; why did he call his car after a lilita express frequent flyer?
23:24 MinceR; i didn't notice that
23:24 MinceR; and i don't know which Clinton the cat is named after
23:24 schestowitz; not many famous ones
23:24 schestowitz; there's a singer
23:24 schestowitz; and an ex-pres
23:24 schestowitz; whose name is mostly disgraced already
23:24 MinceR; many famous ones, including 2 famous families
23:24 schestowitz; for the impeachment and the esptein affairs
23:24 MinceR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton
=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton
23:24 TR Bot; Clinton - Wikipedia
23:26 TR News; Just use some old Nokia from the 1990s if your network still supports that. No need for "power banks" https://hackaday.com/2022/02/03/supersized-power-bank-built-from-an-ev-battery/
=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/02/03/supersized-power-bank-built-from-an-ev-battery/
23:26 TR Bot; Power Bank Built From An EV Battery | Hackaday
23:27 MinceR; good luck with connecting to the Internet with that
23:28 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1306237-raspberry-pi-s-raspbian-os-finally-spins-64-bit-version/page3#post1306327
23:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1306237-raspberry-pi-s-raspbian-os-finally-spins-64-bit-version/page3#post1306327
23:28 TR Bot; Pi's Raspbian OS Finally Spins 64-bit Version - Phoronix Forums
23:28 schestowitz; "
23:28 *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights
23:28 schestowitz; The bigger problem with the pi, this Microsoft thing inside the chip aside, was the addition of packages.microsoft.com (proprietary software), without consent, to all raspi OS devices one year ago (end of January)
23:28 schestowitz; Not a problem for most people. The biggest problem is likely the weak, proprietary GPU.
23:28 schestowitz; "
23:28 schestowitz; MinceR: why? sadism? ;-)
23:28 MinceR; a problem for me
23:29 schestowitz; you can sms a server
23:29 MinceR; schestowitz: huh?
23:29 MinceR; lol
23:29 schestowitz; to wget pages for youy
23:29 MinceR; i prefer tethering over WiFi
23:29 schestowitz; with gemini it would work neatly
23:29 DaemonFC; The US 2G networks are gone.
23:29 schestowitz; yes, I know
23:29 DaemonFC; And no CDMA phones work anymore.
23:29 DaemonFC; 3G is next.
23:29 schestowitz; that's why I said if the network supports it
23:29 DaemonFC; In under a year.
23:30 schestowitz; "you so ol skoooool!!;'
23:30 schestowitz; planned obsolescence
23:30 schestowitz; upgrade treadmill
23:30 schestowitz; we don't have mobile
23:30 schestowitz; but usually there are fallbacks for that
23:30 schestowitz; they are even better than the "real" thing
23:31 schestowitz; like using a landline around the home
23:31 MinceR; going home and using fiber/cable/DSL?
23:31 schestowitz; two sets
23:31 schestowitz; connected to a stand
23:31 schestowitz; and they don't have back doors
23:32 schestowitz; physical not engaged, cordless, portable
23:32 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo9arZs21WI
=> ↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo9arZs21WI
23:32 TR Bot; Snowden: 'Smartphones can be taken over' - BBC News - YouTube
23:32 schestowitz; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34444233
=> ↺ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34444233
23:32 TR Bot; Edward Snowden interview: 'Smartphones can be taken over' - BBC News
23:32 schestowitz; Edward Snowden: Smartphones can be taken over - BBC News - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Wo9arZs21WI
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Wo9arZs21WI
23:32 TR Bot; Edward Snowden: 'Smartphones can be taken over' - BBC News - Invidious
23:33 schestowitz; I posted gulagtube url by accident
23:35 DaemonFC; Mr Gulag says "non-binary" partner. Which just makes it so much worse.
23:35 DaemonFC; Penalty! Invalid English use. Ignores basic anatomy!
23:36 TR News; LOL! #zdnet has just rebranded its "MASTER LINUX" headlines as "Become a Linux expert". There we go! Problem solved. #slavery is now officially abolished.
23:36 DaemonFC; This is on top of the ambiguous phrase "partner", which is a loaded and anti-gay term in US English.
23:37 MinceR; is it?
23:37 schestowitz; what da? https://www.online-tech-tips.com/smartphones/what-is-facebook-touch-and-is-it-worth-using/
=> ↺ https://www.online-tech-tips.com/smartphones/what-is-facebook-touch-and-is-it-worth-using/
23:37 TR Bot; What Is Facebook Touch and Is It Worth Using?
23:37 DaemonFC; Just so much bullshit in one little sentence when you put them together.
23:37 schestowitz; maybe they should make a children's edition
23:37 schestowitz; Facebook Touch Kids
23:37 schestowitz; for Josh Talisa or whatever he was
23:37 schestowitz; *John
23:37 MinceR; also, do people with chromosome disorders also "ignore basic anatomy"?
23:38 DaemonFC; No, that would be a defect, and it's quite rare.
23:38 DaemonFC; I doubt that Mr. Gulag's "non-binary" partner is a genetic defect in the strictest sense, other than being with him.
23:39 schestowitz; DaemonFC: can you stop going off topic?
23:40 DaemonFC; When my parents were looking for why I would act out at school, someone suggested seeing if I had a second X chromosome. Turns out that I don't.
23:40 DaemonFC; It was another fad in the 1980s and early to mid 90s for psychiatrists to pin criminality and "deviant behavior", including male homosexuality, on a double X chromosome.
23:41 MinceR; if something is "quite rare", are we to act as if it never happened?
23:41 TR News; "I wake up every day in a world in which a lot of people have come to love the GNU operating system, but think a Jack Malik from Finland wrote it, even though he came clean about it from the very beginning!" http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/2022-02-03-yesterday.en.html #gnu #beatles #attribution #revisionism
=> ↺ http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/2022-02-03-yesterday.en.html
23:41 TR Bot; ::[FSFLA]:: Yesterday
23:41 DaemonFC; This junk science made an appearance in the movie Alien 3.
23:41 DaemonFC; The penal colony that Ripley crash lands on is a prison for men with a double X chromosome.
23:41 schestowitz; "Facebook for mobile browsers that offers more benefits than just being touch-optimized."
23:41 schestowitz; https://www.online-tech-tips.com/smartphones/what-is-facebook-touch-and-is-it-worth-using/
=> ↺ https://www.online-tech-tips.com/smartphones/what-is-facebook-touch-and-is-it-worth-using/
23:42 MinceR; not using faecesbook offers even more benefits
23:42 schestowitz; DaemonFC: shut the hell up and be on topic
23:42 DaemonFC; It turns out that in reality, about the only serious thing it seems to be linked with is a shorter than average lifespan.
23:43 TR News; #gnu #linux #revisionism #history #misinformation "Unlike the movie, everyone's forgetfulness is not caused by a weird worldwide blackout, but by a very well-funded disinformation campaign." http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/2022-02-03-yesterday.en.html
=> ↺ http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/2022-02-03-yesterday.en.html
23:43 psydroid2; https://hardocp.com/blog/status-quo-is-no-mo
=> ↺ https://hardocp.com/blog/status-quo-is-no-mo
23:43 TR Bot; Coming in the Video Card Reviewer Industry HardOCP
23:43 DaemonFC; Nobody 50 years from NOW is going to look back on 2022 and say we had it all figured out.
23:44 schestowitz; "Users with non-Android or iOS devices (E.g., Windows Phone or Ubuntu Touch)."
23:44 DaemonFC; So that's something to keep in mind with these gibbering idiots like Anthony Fauci, who is still floating around after so much FAIL.
23:44 schestowitz; psydroid2: so HardOCP is still going
23:44 MinceR; i'm not sure if there will even be anyone 50 years from now
23:44 schestowitz; is it still doing reviews and functioning as before?
23:44 psydroid2; phoronix made the move from "education" to "edutainment" to "entertainment"
23:44 schestowitz; [H]ard|?
23:45 psydroid2; schestowitz, it's only a forum and a blog now, no reviews are being done anymore
23:45 MinceR; moronix failed to entertain me
23:45 MinceR; but then again, it also failed to educate anyone
23:45 schestowitz; psydroid2: oh
23:45 schestowitz; so worthless
23:45 DaemonFC; Phoronix was occasionally interesting 10 years ago.
23:45 DaemonFC; But I don't even read it anymore.
23:45 schestowitz; look at it today
23:45 schestowitz; many x86 'ads'
23:45 schestowitz; some not remotely related to linux
23:46 DaemonFC; It's drifted so far away from interesting news about open source software and "Linux-ey" things that I don't even want to sift through it.
23:46 schestowitz; product announcement and marketing with some 2-paragraph blurbs and github (Microsoft) links here and there
23:46 schestowitz; also Microsoft-Mesa puff piece
23:46 DaemonFC; There's some Shithub and Windows trolls trying to hijack LibreWolf.
23:46 DaemonFC; And they seem to be having some success.
23:46 schestowitz; yes, the usual
23:47 schestowitz; they always try to destroy things while small
23:47 schestowitz; "knife the baby"
23:47 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/01/28/microsoft-and-gemini/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/01/28/microsoft-and-gemini/
23:47 TR Bot; Microsoft Staff Trying to Subvert the Freedom of Gemini (Without Disclosure of the Paymaster) | Techrights
23:47 schestowitz; librewolf moved AWAY from shithub
23:48 schestowitz; not sure if I contributed to it as I complained
23:48 DaemonFC; It's drifting back that way.
23:48 DaemonFC; They say they find it useful for CI involving the Windows Store.
23:48 schestowitz; and later I discovered they had moved to gitlab
23:48 DaemonFC; They want to use it to automate the process of building it as an MSIX package.
23:48 schestowitz; maybe Microsoft "evangelists" offer them something
23:48 schestowitz; DaemonFC: people who care about privacy don't use windows
23:49 schestowitz; they are catering for unicorns
23:49 DaemonFC; "I care a lot about privacy, which is why I use Windows 11!" Herr derr!
23:49 schestowitz; moz made firefox for windows store
23:49 schestowitz; some kde projects did too
23:49 schestowitz; hardly anyone is there at all
23:49 schestowitz; so they waste time and effort
23:49 schestowitz; based on false assumptions
23:49 schestowitz; mozilla is dying very fast
23:49 MinceR; lol @ targeting the Backdoors Store in 2022
23:49 schestowitz; products canceled rapidly
23:50 schestowitz; and firefox had "outage"
23:50 DaemonFC; I read a lot of dark web sites where people always emphasize getting off of Windows.
23:50 schestowitz; how the FORK doe s a browser have OUTAGE?
23:50 schestowitz; they linked it so closely to their servers
23:50 DaemonFC; It's a persistent leak. I mean, what good does the Tor Browser do you when Microsoft Pretender is there hooked up to it, reporting everything it does back to Microsoft?
23:50 schestowitz; to the point firefox started to choke because some corporate server in another country could not be reached
23:50 schestowitz; today they said again firefox is all about privacy
23:50 schestowitz; it WAS
23:50 schestowitz; years ago
23:51 schestowitz; MinceR: no, seriously many people use it
23:51 schestowitz; it's quite... "delightful" http://techrights.org/2022/01/26/microsoft-delighted-by-failure/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/01/26/microsoft-delighted-by-failure/
23:51 TR Bot; Microsoft Delighted by Windows 11 (Vista 11) Usage, Which is Only 1% Three Months After Official Launch and Six Months After Release Online | Techrights
23:52 schestowitz; I see that vista8 has higher market share than "11" still
23:52 schestowitz; Vista 8
23:52 schestowitz; never saw the thing
23:52 schestowitz; never met someone who used it
23:53 TR News; It's 2022 and #vista7 has 5 times more users than #vista11 ... that's how so badly forked #microsoft #windows is... http://techrights.org/2022/01/26/microsoft-delighted-by-failure/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/01/26/microsoft-delighted-by-failure/
23:54 psydroid2; Vista United Group
23:54 schestowitz; Owned by malcolm Glazer Ballmer
23:54 psydroid2; that's where they are hanging out
23:54 schestowitz; "let's add a sports team"
23:55 psydroid2; e-sports
23:55 schestowitz; tax evasion
23:55 schestowitz; KSA: we love sports
23:55 schestowitz; with swords and things... cultural diffewrence.. be tolerant!!
23:55 MinceR; "sports AAAARGH sports!"
23:55 MinceR; "Powerthirst!"
23:55 schestowitz; I call it Saudi United new. NUFC
23:56 schestowitz; psydroid2: Benitez fell on his sword
23:56 schestowitz; moved to Everton
23:56 psydroid2; geopolitics in the English Premier League will make for exciting scenes
23:56 schestowitz; in NUFC falling on a sword is NO JOKE
23:56 schestowitz; sometimes sword falls on YOU!
23:57 schestowitz; man united now an oil comany
23:57 psydroid2; KSA: bring your swords
23:57 MinceR; live by the sword
23:57 psydroid2; RF: bring your novichok and your bears
23:57 MinceR; trip and fall on your swird
23:57 MinceR; s/wi/wo/
23:57 schestowitz; used to be thai duty free (state monopoly) tycoon from thailand iirc
23:57 MinceR; die by the sword.
23:57 schestowitz; same thing as LCFC now
23:57 schestowitz; you could put flags on English football clubs
23:58 schestowitz; country flags
23:58 schestowitz; psydroid2: scissors kick
23:58 psydroid2; there ain't no union jack in the stars and stripes
23:58 schestowitz; MsB got a little hard down there..
23:58 schestowitz; MbS
23:59 schestowitz; "put him in the net"
23:59 schestowitz; "the ball I mean.."
23:59 Ariadne; well
23:59 MinceR; it's a hole in the ground.
23:59 Ariadne; its good that i put schestowitz on spinning rust rather than the SSD array i have
23:59 *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving)
23:59 *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving)
23:59 Ariadne; because that array just died on me
23:59 Ariadne; and i lost all data
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