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07:17 Techrights-sec; https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-04/msg00037.html
=> ↺ https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-04/msg00037.html
07:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lists.gnu.org | Re: thank you elon musk
07:24 schestowitz;
07:24 schestowitz; Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS has landed!
=> Pop!_OS">↺ https://blog.system76.com/post/682519660741148672/popos-2204-lts-has-landed">Pop!_OS
07:24 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.system76.com | System76 Blog Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS has landed!
07:24 schestowitz;
07:25 schestowitz; Update and upgrade Pop!_OS automatically from the OS Upgrade & Recovery panel in Settings! Minimize interruption by scheduling what day & time that you want your computer to perform the updates. Scheduled automatic updates include support for Debian, Flatpak, and Nix packages.
07:25 schestowitz; To reduce distractions, notifications for available updates are set to show weekly by default. The frequency can also be set to daily or monthly notifications. Notifications wont show if you have automatic updates enabled. Automatic updates are turned off by default.
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07:25 schestowitz; Canonical may go public in 2023, claims US$175m profit last year
07:25 schestowitz;
07:26 schestowitz; The head of Canonical, the company behind the Ubuntu Linux distribution, claims it recorded a profit of US$175 million (A$237.7 million) in 2021 and is likely to undertake an IPO in 2023.
07:26 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Canonical may go public in 2023, claims US$175m profit last year
07:26 schestowitz;
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07:26 schestowitz; What is MongoDB and why use it for modern web applications?
=> What">↺ https://ubuntu.com//blog/what-is-mongodb">What
07:26 schestowitz;
07:26 schestowitz; Organisations of different scales and forms want to harness the power of data to identify new business opportunities and improve current business operations. Organisations that use data effectively can hold a potential advantage the ability to make faster and more informed business decisions. However, working with data can be a long-standing problem for businesses and functions, especially in data
07:26 schestowitz; management and software development.
07:26 schestowitz; One essential use case in which organisations require fast phase development and excellent data management is building modern web-based applications. Organisations demand a high-quality working system that can be deployed as quickly as possible. In addition, these applications should be able to scale. So, every application must be designed and built on a suitable database. Traditionally, web
07:26 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-What is MongoDB and why use it for modern web applications? | Ubuntu
07:26 schestowitz; applications used relational databases as primary data store, with an appreciation for the well-normalised data model. But as applications modernise, more developers lean towards adopting alternative data stores, such as NoSQL (Not Only Structured Query Language) because of their benefits.
07:26 schestowitz; One of the applications that can help organisations develop modern web-based applications is MongoDB. This database enables organisations to build scalable and data-driven applications. The data model and persistence strategies are built for high read and write throughput. In addition, it has an automatic failover capability. If youre wondering what MongoDB is, its benefits, and how MongoDB helps run
07:26 schestowitz; modern web-based application production, this blog is for you.
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07:35 schestowitz-TR; great finds in Daily Links, now we see some numbers about the effect of destroying YouTube with ads
07:35 schestowitz-TR; in 2018, IIRC, Twittter did the same
07:35 schestowitz-TR; killing off third parties
07:35 schestowitz-TR; shoving lots of ads
07:35 schestowitz-TR; they temporarily made preofit for the first time
07:35 schestowitz-TR; but THEY LOST A TON OF USERS
07:35 schestowitz-TR; then they were back to losses
07:35 schestowitz-TR; YouTube might be the same
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08:56 schestowitz-TR; Techdirt says "utilizing established IP" [sic] but should know better! https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/26/paradox-fully-embraces-fan-games-with-developer-affiliate-program/ | Source: Techdirt
08:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Paradox Fully Embraces Fan-Games With Developer Affiliate Program | Techdirt
08:57 schestowitz-TR; not the first time
08:57 schestowitz-TR; I see a lot of things in EFF, CC, and TechDirt that I cannot agree with
08:57 schestowitz-TR; Mozilla has long crossed the border
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09:07 schestowitz-TR; Abusive Bully on Twitter https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/26/twitter_elon_musk_free_speech | Source: Democracy Now
=> ↺ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/26/twitter_elon_musk_free_speech
09:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.democracynow.org | Elon Musk, the Worlds Richest Man, Has Been an Abusive Bully on Twitter for Years. Now He Owns It | Democracy Now!
10:11 Techrights-sec; ypuotube is dying, first the sharecroppers are going elsewhere, along with their
10:11 Techrights-sec; followers, and then google is tryingto squueze the remining fools, thus driving
10:11 Techrights-sec; more sharecroppers away
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10:15 schestowitz-TR; I could never prove it due to "creative" accounting, but I've long argued that like with Gulag Code
10:15 schestowitz-TR; and ShitHub, there's no real business mode;
10:15 schestowitz-TR; Same for Twitter
10:15 schestowitz-TR; the "free" account is how they build the business
10:15 schestowitz-TR; with netflix nthe expenses are huge, but they do charge a fee
10:15 schestowitz-TR; so anyway, they operate in a vacuuum
10:15 schestowitz-TR; assuming they can somehow turn the useds into customers
10:15 schestowitz-TR; yesterday I messed aroung with youtube
10:15 schestowitz-TR; toi find football videos
10:15 schestowitz-TR; of the game here
10:15 schestowitz-TR; they keep pushing PACKAGES for youtube
10:15 schestowitz-TR; like I'd actually pay them to watch video
10:15 schestowitz-TR; it's hard to convince people to start paying
10:15 schestowitz-TR; for what they used to get for freee
10:15 schestowitz-TR; back to gulag, they bought a losing operaiton
10:15 schestowitz-TR; same for shithub
10:15 schestowitz-TR; and gulag did not wish to buy shithub
10:15 schestowitz-TR; it was put on offer
10:15 schestowitz-TR; maybe shithub preferred to sell to gulag
10:15 schestowitz-TR; the more they sequqeesze for money, like twitter in 2018
10:15 schestowitz-TR; the fewer used are left
10:15 schestowitz-TR; until there's no geese left to squeeze
10:15 schestowitz-TR; it's a precarious situation
10:15 schestowitz-TR; spotify does charge for useds
10:15 schestowitz-TR; but maybe not enough
10:15 schestowitz-TR; so it tried podcasting
10:15 schestowitz-TR; and lost millions of subscribers
10:15 schestowitz-TR; 5 million x $10 a month = 50 a month lost. 50 million
10:15 schestowitz-TR; In two months 100 million.
10:15 schestowitz-TR; What they paid RogueAn.
10:17 Techrights-sec; I'm not sure YouTube was losing so badly at the time it was bought but
10:17 Techrights-sec; the storage and bandwidth don't pay for themselves and video is expensive
10:17 Techrights-sec; as hell to even store and stream despite them getting the production work
10:17 Techrights-sec; for free
10:17 schestowitz-TR; remember it's easier to lose SUBSRFIBER
10:17 schestowitz-TR; than a USED
10:17 schestowitz-TR; because for the used it's harder to justify leaving
10:17 schestowitz-TR; "it's free after all"
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10:17 schestowitz-TR; subscribers just "Stop paying"
10:17 schestowitz-TR; if they are no longer happy
10:17 Techrights-sec; yep
10:18 schestowitz-TR; I want to see the whole bubble busrsting
10:18 schestowitz-TR; NO BAILOUTS THIS TIMER
10:18 schestowitz-TR; Stop doping!!!
10:18 schestowitz-TR; OIn taxpayers' backs
10:18 schestowitz-TR; The Reg wrote about the hololkens graft yesterday
10:24 Techrights-sec; National security and preparedness would rise drastically if M$ were allowed
10:24 Techrights-sec; to finally go under
10:25 schestowitz-TR; but sales of all sorts would also diminish
10:25 schestowitz-TR; can't allow dddat!!!
10:25 schestowitz-TR; btw, rianne and I will go cycling soon, maybe in 30 mins
10:25 Techrights-sec; excellent. have a great ride
10:35 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft concern-trolling Linux while putting NSA back doors in Windows https://thehackernews.com/2022/04/microsoft-discovers-new-privilege.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
=> ↺ https://thehackernews.com/2022/04/microsoft-discovers-new-privilege.html
=> http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thehackernews.com | Microsoft Discovers New Privilege Escalation Flaws in Linux Operating System
10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights
10:35 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- thehackernews.com | Microsoft Discovers New Privilege Escalation Flaws in Linux Operating System
10:35 schestowitz-TR; techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights
10:35 schestowitz-TR; As if local privilege escalation is anywhere as severe as remotely-reachable back doors in Windows https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/04/microsoft-finds-linux-desktop-flaw-that-gives-root-to-untrusted-users/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
=> ↺ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/04/microsoft-finds-linux-desktop-flaw-that-gives-root-to-untrusted-users/
=> http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-arstechnica.com | Microsoft finds Linux desktop flaw that gives root to untrusted users | Ars Technica
10:35 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- arstechnica.com | Microsoft finds Linux desktop flaw that gives root to untrusted users | Ars Technica
10:35 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft is "concerned" about Linux security like wolves are concerned about the safety of sheep.
10:35 schestowitz-TR; ICBM hypocrisy: "Many companies these days are keen to infuse their products and platforms with artificial intelligence" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/diversity-drives-innovation
=> ↺ https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/diversity-drives-innovation
10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-enterprisersproject.com | 4 reasons diverse engineering teams drive innovation | The Enterprisers Project
10:35 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- enterprisersproject.com | 4 reasons diverse engineering teams drive innovation | The Enterprisers Project
10:35 schestowitz-TR; Proprietary junk. Probably does more harm than good. Shilled by spamnil and other snakeoil spammers. https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/04/26/2429026/0/en/New-SIOS-LifeKeeper-for-Linux-Version-9-6-1-Adds-Support-for-the-Latest-Versions-of-Key-Operating-Systems-Databases-and-Cloud-Features.html
10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.globenewswire.com | New SIOS LifeKeeper for Linux Version 9.6.1 Adds Support
10:35 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.globenewswire.com | New SIOS LifeKeeper for Linux Version 9.6.1 Adds Support
10:35 schestowitz-TR; "I'm going to start this blog by writing a very simple guide on installing Perl using perlbrew." http://blogs.perl.org/users/ali/2022/04/installing-perl-with-perlbrew.html
=> ↺ http://blogs.perl.org/users/ali/2022/04/installing-perl-with-perlbrew.html
10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Installing Perl with perlbrew | Ali [blogs.perl.org]
10:35 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- Installing Perl with perlbrew | Ali [blogs.perl.org]
10:35 schestowitz-TR; This was patched a very long time ago; meanwhile, there are dozen of zero-day flaws in Windows that are remotely exploitable, not local privilege escalation https://thestack.technology/dirty-pipe-exploited-linux-vulnerability-cve-2022-0847/
=> ↺ https://thestack.technology/dirty-pipe-exploited-linux-vulnerability-cve-2022-0847/
10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thestack.technology | "Dirty Pipe" Linux vulnerability is now being exploited in the wild
10:35 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- thestack.technology | "Dirty Pipe" Linux vulnerability is now being exploited in the wild
10:35 schestowitz-TR; While CISA admits Microsoft is full of holes that are actively exploited Microsoft and its faithful media operative try to shift attention to "Linux" https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-nimbuspwn-linux-vulnerability-gives-hackers-root-privileges/
10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bleepingcomputer.com | New Nimbuspwn Linux vulnerability gives hackers root privileges
10:35 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.bleepingcomputer.com | Ne
10:37 schestowitz-TR; more research on the security matter would help beofore doign article/video
10:37 schestowitz-TR; in case I do one
10:37 schestowitz-TR; maybe there's more to it than meets the eye
10:37 schestowitz-TR; like very hard to actually leverage such a bug
10:37 schestowitz-TR; I did not look into it
10:37 schestowitz-TR; but could use help here
10:37 schestowitz-TR; Dan Goodin and other Micerosoft boot lickers... I would NOT truist a word from them
10:39 Techrights-sec; I'm not sure what could be found, the media covers for M$
10:39 Techrights-sec; all day everyday
10:40 schestowitz-TR; but maybe it's another one of those MS/GitHub claiming Linux has security "disaster"
10:40 schestowitz-TR; because you can executive some malicious file in KDE or GNOME
10:40 schestowitz-TR; Can
10:40 schestowitz-TR; Not will
10:40 schestowitz-TR; they tend toi exaggerate
10:40 schestowitz-TR; CISA has just released a long list of severe Microsoft flaws
10:40 schestowitz-TR; ACTIVELY exploited
10:42 Techrights-sec; https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2022-0847
=> ↺ https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2022-0847
10:42 Techrights-sec; https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-0847
=> ↺ https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-0847
10:42 Techrights-sec; https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2022-0847
=> ↺ https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2022-0847
10:42 Techrights-sec; https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/DSA-5092-1
=> ↺ https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/DSA-5092-1
10:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cve.mitre.org | CVE - CVE-2022-0847
10:42 Techrights-sec; If there is a problem affecting non-M$ systems then that is unusual and therefore news. If there is a remote explo
10:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nvd.nist.gov | NVD - CVE-2022-0847
10:42 Techrights-sec; it in the wild being actively exploited
10:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-security-tracker.debian.org | CVE-2022-0847
10:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-security-tracker.debian.org | DSA-5092-1
10:42 Techrights-sec; against M$ systems, that is the normal situation and thus not news
10:42 Techrights-sec; https://www.ivanti.com/blog/how-to-mitigate-cve-2022-0847-the-dirty-pipe-vulnerability
=> ↺ https://www.ivanti.com/blog/how-to-mitigate-cve-2022-0847-the-dirty-pipe-vulnerability
10:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ivanti.com | How to Mitigate CVE-2022-0847 (The Dirty Pipe Vulnerability)
10:43 Techrights-sec; "This includes a multitude of devices running Android 12 and Linux."
10:43 schestowitz-TR; that includes apples and apple skins
10:47 Techrights-sec; re: irc -- why would 951k "tweets" cost 7GB ?
10:47 Techrights-sec; That's over 7kB per tweet
10:49 Techrights-sec; 7GB comnpressed
10:49 schestowitz-TR; i did not uncompress ot
10:49 schestowitz-TR; but i assume thyey include images now
10:49 schestowitz-TR; thereare 951k tweets
10:59 schestowitz-TR; Security Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt/Fear-mongering/Dramatisation Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/nod
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/nod
10:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/nod )
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/nod
10:59 schestowitz-TR; I might do a video about it when I return home
11:00 schestowitz-TR; you have given some additional links to work with
11:00 schestowitz-TR; inc. direct from CVE/source
11:00 schestowitz-TR; what I want to know is,
11:00 schestowitz-TR; and have not checked to verify
11:00 schestowitz-TR; is how DIFFICULT this thing is to leverage
11:00 schestowitz-TR; like pre-requisite
11:00 schestowitz-TR; e.g. are there assumptions about which kernel modules are in place?
11:01 schestowitz-TR; which kernel versions affected (many distros use stable old kernels)
11:01 schestowitz-TR; Security Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt/Fear-mongering/Dramatisation Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164200
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164200
11:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt/Fear-mongering/Dramatisation | Tux Machines
11:04 schestowitz-TR; seeing the directrion itwire has taken
11:04 schestowitz-TR; and the workload of "obligatory spam"
11:04 schestowitz-TR; the only other person likely to check what's at stake here
11:04 schestowitz-TR; is not likely to say a thing
11:04 schestowitz-TR; FOSS Force is LF now
11:04 schestowitz-TR; LF ACTIVELY PARTICIPATES in such antyi-Linux talking points
11:04 schestowitz-TR; and then pushes Snyk et al products
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14:39 schestowitz-TR; back
14:39 schestowitz-TR; saved about 30-35 pounds
14:39 Techrights-sec; is there a summary somewhere where FOSSForce comes clean on LF financing?
14:39 Techrights-sec; https://lunduke.substack.com/p/6-dirty-secrets-of-the-linux-and
=> ↺ https://lunduke.substack.com/p/6-dirty-secrets-of-the-linux-and
14:39 Techrights-sec; "The Linux Foundation is funded (and controlled) by Microsoft and Facebook"
14:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lunduke.substack.com | 6 Dirty Secrets of the Linux and Open Source Industry
14:40 schestowitz-TR; fossforce is an open secret
14:40 schestowitz-TR; no need to fight them in the open
14:40 schestowitz-TR; it would be counterproductive because we get support from them, esp. TM
14:42 Techrights-sec; It would be convenient to have a link to point people to covering FOSS Force and
14:42 Techrights-sec; LF but it does not have to be a link at TR
14:42 Techrights-sec;
14:42 Techrights-sec; The soft deadline for the temporary machine is approaching. Is there any
14:42 Techrights-sec; use for it or can I power it down and repurpose it early?
14:42 Techrights-sec; excellent
14:43 schestowitz-TR; any offsite partitition withh backup of the site is helpful
14:43 schestowitz-TR; in case of data losses
14:43 schestowitz-TR; My connection is not fast, so my backups of the site are not so good
14:46 Techrights-sec; The temporary system has no LXC and that is a quite unfamiliar way of managing
14:46 Techrights-sec; services
14:52 schestowitz-TR; a) many people with yellow labels in their carts today. maybe they come to grips
14:52 schestowitz-TR; with them not being worth whatever their salary said 5 or 15 years ago, so it
14:52 schestowitz-TR; is time to save where possible
14:52 schestowitz-TR; b) 10 mins ago we discussed i the kitchen expenses, sum is estimated at 750/mo excluding
14:52 schestowitz-TR; unexpected fees or help to family
14:52 schestowitz-TR; c) lunduke is not "good neighbourhood" at this time
14:52 schestowitz-TR; d) fossforce can be very schizo, so I try to stay on the good side of it
14:52 schestowitz-TR; e) when TM had issue she took it very hard (fossforce), thought it was personal
14:52 schestowitz-TR; I shared 3 "tweets" about that in IRC
14:52 schestowitz-TR; f) we actually cycle up the stream and the food buying is comfy because it's right there and way back is downhill,
14:52 schestowitz-TR; so carrying stuff in bicycle basket and backpack is easier than walking
14:52 schestowitz-TR; (g) no food for the geese today (we keep heads and tails of bread for them, always) and there are already
14:52 schestowitz-TR; some eggs hatching with gosling (we saw about 200 on the way)
14:52 schestowitz-TR; h) I am going to start working on part 5 (belarus), maybe later I will do a video about that and about
14:52 schestowitz-TR; microsoft FUD. I want to know the conditions for exploitation and how severe it really is
14:53 Techrights-sec; ack
14:53 Techrights-sec; c) lunduke is rather off since the last year or two
14:53 Techrights-sec; e) ack
14:53 Techrights-sec; grains might be healthier for the geese
14:53 Techrights-sec; h) which vulnerabilities, specifically?
14:54 schestowitz-TR; we limit to just one head or tail and split that among about a dozen each, so the total amount is small
14:54 schestowitz-TR; because their food is grass and stuff, grain is better
14:55 schestowitz-TR; [10:42] https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2022-0847
=> ↺ https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2022-0847
14:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cve.mitre.org | CVE - CVE-2022-0847
14:55 schestowitz-TR; [10:42] https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-0847
=> ↺ https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-0847
14:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nvd.nist.gov | NVD - CVE-2022-0847
14:55 schestowitz-TR; [10:42] https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2022-0847
=> ↺ https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2022-0847
14:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-security-tracker.debian.org | CVE-2022-0847
14:58 schestowitz-TR; CTRLC+ for copy I guess
14:58 schestowitz-TR; I said,
14:58 schestowitz-TR; wait there are 3 links about a new Microsoft FUD
14:58 schestowitz-TR; The one about "dirty pipe" is old news
14:58 schestowitz-TR; I think you pasted something from makeuseof
14:58 schestowitz-TR; and then quoted two links from it
14:58 schestowitz-TR; which I saw briefly
14:58 schestowitz-TR; maybe then tried to pasted another
14:59 Techrights-sec; yes #######################################
14:59 Techrights-sec; CVE-2022-0847 an co are old
14:59 Techrights-sec; https://www.makeuseof.com/what-is-the-dirty-pipe-exploit-in-linux-and-fix-it/
=> ↺ https://www.makeuseof.com/what-is-the-dirty-pipe-exploit-in-linux-and-fix-it/
14:59 Techrights-sec; """
14:59 Techrights-sec; The attack surface of Dirty Pipe stretches across all Linux kernel versions from 5.8 to 5.16.11. In layman's terms,
14:59 Techrights-sec; it means that all the distros, from Ubuntu to Arch and everything in between, are susceptible to being compromised
14:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.makeuseof.com | What Is the Dirty Pipe Exploit in Linux and How Can You Fix It?
14:59 Techrights-sec; by Dirty Pipe.
14:59 Techrights-sec; Affected Linux kernel versions range from 5.8 to 5.10.101.
14:59 Techrights-sec; """
15:00 schestowitz-TR; There are two issues to cover (actually 3, I will mention ntfs neglect too)
15:00 schestowitz-TR; but the main one is from Goodin and Bleeping garbage
15:00 Techrights-sec; The problem sounds more like it is that many mobile and, especially, embedded
15:00 Techrights-sec; systems don't / can't easily get kaintained
15:00 Techrights-sec; despite being connected to the net.
15:01 schestowitz-TR; they should have used simpler OSes, with smaller attack surface, and keep them OFF the Net where possible
15:01 schestowitz-TR; but like browsers and sites throwing everything at you in bulk
15:01 schestowitz-TR; they overcomplicate things for saving's sake
15:01 schestowitz-TR; because small can be more expensive
15:01 schestowitz-TR; small requires extra effort
15:02 Techrights-sec; A problem is that everything nowadays has a network stack and the quick
15:02 Techrights-sec; way to do that is throw a kernel at it
15:02 Techrights-sec; ^Linux, specifically
15:02 Techrights-sec; Making it smaller requires effort and skill
15:06 schestowitz-TR; =====
15:06 schestowitz-TR; this is good for outsourcers
15:06 schestowitz-TR; outsource software
15:06 schestowitz-TR; outsource servers (hardware)
15:06 schestowitz-TR; outsource dns
15:06 schestowitz-TR; outsource "apps"
15:06 schestowitz-TR; open an account
15:06 schestowitz-TR; type in credit card
15:06 schestowitz-TR; memorise GUI
15:06 schestowitz-TR; some stand to benefit from this IT as "consumerist" model
15:06 schestowitz-TR; even "apps" are now "storee"
15:06 schestowitz-TR; in palmOS it was not like this
15:08 Techrights-sec; Except that everything has been outsourced even the outsourcing so there
15:08 Techrights-sec; is nothing there to build upon.
16:15 schestowitz-TR; bbiab
16:15 schestowitz-TR; draft
16:16 Techrights-sec; ack
16:16 Techrights-sec; same preview problem, probably related to HTTPS
16:16 Techrights-sec; yep logging out and back in again makes it accessible
16:16 Techrights-sec; The first paragraph ought to place the article in the series as well as mention
16:16 Techrights-sec; in at least one line what the main point of the article will be
16:16 Techrights-sec; How are Jung and SaM related to M$ and EPO?
16:16 Techrights-sec; Last paragraph ought to have a conclusion or reverse summary
16:23 schestowitz-TR; I am going to expand the summary
16:23 Techrights-sec; .
16:23 Techrights-sec; ack
16:24 schestowitz-TR; ota in a few mins, rianne should do a round for tuxmachines before me to avoid collusion/dupes
16:24 schestowitz-TR; I will record 2 videos
16:24 schestowitz-TR; *collision
16:27 Techrights-sec; thanks
16:28 schestowitz-TR; gonna leave out the "OVER-THE-AIR" updates thing
16:28 schestowitz-TR; and embedded devices
16:28 schestowitz-TR; and small OS aspect
16:28 schestowitz-TR; that 's used to discredit Linux for being bloated
16:28 schestowitz-TR; but the key point is
16:28 schestowitz-TR; Windows is a lot worse and a lot less safe
16:28 schestowitz-TR; so I will focus on that
16:28 schestowitz-TR; I won't link to the articles, I can instead show them on the screen in part
16:28 schestowitz-TR; and make fun
16:28 schestowitz-TR; OTA
16:30 schestowitz-TR; ok
16:30 schestowitz-TR; no need to feed them traffic
16:30 schestowitz-TR; yes but not only is windows worse, harder to use and maintain, and a lot
16:30 Techrights-sec; ok
16:30 Techrights-sec; no need to feed them traffic
16:30 Techrights-sec; yes but not only is windows worse, harder to use and maintain, and a lot
16:30 Techrights-sec; (really a lot) less safe, all those shortcomings are taken for granted
16:30 schestowitz-TR; (really a lot) less safe, all those shortcomings are taken for granted
16:30 Techrights-sec; and people have become inured to them and will need to be shaken out of the
16:30 Techrights-sec; complacancy or apathy
16:30 schestowitz-TR; and people have become inured to them and will need to be shaken out of the
16:30 schestowitz-TR; complacancy or apathy
16:30 Techrights-sec; yes, all system are not perfect, no that deviation from the ideal is not on
16:30 schestowitz-TR; yes, all system are not perfect, no that deviation from the ideal is not on
16:30 Techrights-sec; the same scale with windows
16:30 schestowitz-TR; the same scale with windows
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18:21 schestowitz-TR; will have drafts ready soon
18:21 schestowitz-TR; got holiday apporoved 10-11/52022
18:21 schestowitz-TR; 5/2022
18:21 schestowitz-TR; i have 26 days for the year, I get to choose when
18:21 schestowitz-TR; instead of fixed at quiet times like xmas
18:21 schestowitz-TR; I did not use any in March and April, in effect saving them for later
18:22 schestowitz-TR; drafts on the way, will quot you a little
18:23 Techrights-sec; 2 days?
18:23 Techrights-sec; nice
18:23 schestowitz-TR; I say to people that they can read more in IRC to avoid repetition
18:23 schestowitz-TR; and in #techrights main channel I've not participated much lately
18:23 schestowitz-TR; it's doing ok on its own, relatively speaking
18:23 Techrights-sec; the quotes are not of high quality though
18:25 Techrights-sec; good that IRC is being taken care of on that channel
18:26 schestowitz-TR; as you said, irc can be a "lot of work"
18:26 schestowitz-TR; also, it is real time so attention and focus are impacted
18:45 schestowitz; given what you sent me this morning, I had to check to see it's not conde nast
18:45 schestowitz; or some other nasty thing
18:45 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variety_(magazine)
=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variety_(magazine)
18:45 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Variety (magazine) - Wikipedia
18:45 schestowitz; turns out Variety is VERYOLD
18:46 schestowitz-TR; draft (getting coffee)
18:59 Techrights-sec; it sometimes covers some relevant topics
18:59 Techrights-sec; https://www.homegrounds.co/how-long-should-i-boil-coffee-for/
=> ↺ https://www.homegrounds.co/how-long-should-i-boil-coffee-for/
18:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.homegrounds.co | How Long Should I Boil Coffee For?
19:01 schestowitz-TR; so far I saw nothing I disliked about it
19:01 schestowitz-TR; then again, similar weekly and daily "household" brands got scooped up by Condy Nasty and turned nasty
19:01 schestowitz-TR; Vanity Fair is one of them, IRC
19:01 schestowitz-TR; always reminds me of Variety
19:02 Techrights-sec; we'll see how well they continue to do, it's been rather good so far
19:02 Techrights-sec; They;ve been in the daily links since 2017
19:04 Techrights-sec; Vanity Fair is a whole different audience / genre
19:04 Techrights-sec; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_Fair_(magazines)
=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_Fair_(magazines)
19:04 Techrights-sec; That's Conde Nast
19:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Vanity Fair (magazines) - Wikipedia
19:05 Techrights-sec; I always feel I have to wash my hands or something after referring to Wikipedia
19:05 Techrights-sec; :(
19:06 schestowitz-TR; haha, you beat me to it
19:06 schestowitz-TR; I was literally about to open the same in wikipedia
19:06 schestowitz-TR; and did
19:06 schestowitz-TR; only to realise you already opened tyhe same page
19:06 schestowitz-TR; The Internet or Web lack high-quality sites andf those that are good or were good get bought, infiltrated, perturbe
19:06 schestowitz-TR; d
19:06 schestowitz-TR; because there is financial incentive to do this
19:06 schestowitz-TR; in paper form it's trickier to do this
19:06 schestowitz-TR; SEO, anon edits, threats, DDOS...
19:07 Techrights-sec; I don't trust it but it often contains links to sources that /are/ rather
19:07 Techrights-sec; authoritative
19:08 schestowitz-TR; or it REMOVED such links
19:08 schestowitz-TR; see OSI/Simmons
19:08 schestowitz-TR; because it's "toxic" to sugest some orgs like EPO or OSI don't defend their mission
19:09 schestowitz-TR; people who infiltrate orgs for eprsonal or corporate gain would do the same to sites that write about such org
19:09 schestowitz-TR; wikipedia, media...
19:34 Techrights-sec; often the good links get removed from wikipedia, like in the ODF fight M$ put up
19:35 schestowitz-TR; "sponsored" edits are the best edits (Jolliffe)
19:35 schestowitz-TR; The shadow "wikipedia economy"
19:35 schestowitz-TR; thank you, Microsoft
19:35 schestowitz-TR; finally there is a "business model"
19:35 schestowitz-TR; draft
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20:53 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft lose more than 600 "top sites" this past month ago https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/04/27/april-2022-web-server-survey.html
=> ↺ https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/04/27/april-2022-web-server-survey.html
20:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.netcraft.com | April 2022 Web Server Survey | Netcraft News
20:58 schestowitz-TR; *alone
20:58 schestowitz-TR; 1881 active capsules known to Lupa. 1900 shortly. gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
=> ↺ gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
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