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00:02 MinceR; (cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/CZUOyks
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00:02 TR Bot; Cat operator - rimgo
00:03 DaemonFC; https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/07/researchers-unpack-unkillable-uefi-rootkit-that-survives-os-reinstalls/
00:03 TR Bot; Discovery of new UEFI rootkit exposes an ugly truth: The attacks are invisible to us | Ars Technica
00:03 MinceR; uefi ensures our "security" yet again
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00:14 DaemonFC; Folding@HOME has had limited success.
00:14 DaemonFC; I wonder how Shkreli, the Pharma Parasite, will sell his version with his fakecoin.
00:15 DaemonFC; I asked mom what the Alzheimer's drugs we have do, and she says "pretty much nothing, but the doctors prescribe them anyway and then if the patient stops taking them, they decline rapidly".
00:17 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: ready re uefi
00:18 schestowitz[TR2]; you probably can do a blog mpost about this too
00:18 schestowitz[TR2]; it covers bitlocker
00:18 schestowitz[TR2]; which you saw mgj bragging about
00:18 schestowitz[TR2]; as it let him use a back door
00:18 schestowitz[TR2]; some encryptiopn, eh?
00:20 schestowitz[TR2]; ritten in great hury
00:20 schestowitz[TR2]; i start work in 40 mins
00:20 schestowitz[TR2]; written, hurry
00:20 schestowitz[TR2]; MinceR quoted
00:20 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: I can post the dragt
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00:25 schestowitz[TR2]; wb
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00:34 TR News; Microsofts Crimes Against the Competition, Notably BSD and GNU/Linux, Persist Albeit Disguised as Security (UEFI ‘Secure’ Boot, TPM, Pluton...) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/27/microsoft-fake-encryption/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/27/microsoft-fake-encryption/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/07/27/microsoft-fake-encryption/
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/27/microsoft-fake-encryption/
00:34 TR Bot; Microsofts Crimes Against the Competition, Notably BSD and GNU/Linux, Persist Albeit Disguised as Security (UEFI Secure Boot, TPM, Pluton) | Techrights
00:36 TR News; Code Density Compared Between Way Too Many Instruction Sets gemini://arcanesciences.com/gemlog/22-07-28/
=> ↺ gemini://arcanesciences.com/gemlog/22-07-28/
00:36 TR News; Church without church gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1087
=> ↺ gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1087
00:37 DaemonFC; Accidentally pulled the power cord while vacuuming.
00:37 TR News; Nuclear Disagreements gemini://idiomdrottning.org/nuclear
=> ↺ gemini://idiomdrottning.org/nuclear
00:37 TR News; RE: PICO-8 and TIC-80 gemini://gemini.cyberbot.space/gemlog/2022-07-27-re-pico8tic80.gmi
=> ↺ gemini://gemini.cyberbot.space/gemlog/2022-07-27-re-pico8tic80.gmi
00:38 TR News; Why you should not disable SELinux gemini://remyabel.srht.site/posts/2022-07-26.gmi do not install it either
=> ↺ gemini://remyabel.srht.site/posts/2022-07-26.gmi
00:38 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: see above
00:39 TR News; Latest Steam Client Update Brings Linux and Vulkan Fixes, Support for New Controllers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167736
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167736
00:39 TR Bot; Latest Steam Client Update Brings Linux and Vulkan Fixes, Support for New Controllers | Tux Machines
00:39 britney; The COVID Coffin Dance (by Anon2World): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4715B10QLU
=> ↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4715B10QLU
00:39 TR Bot; https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=D4715B10QLU
=> ↺ https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=D4715B10QLU
00:40 TR Bot; inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | COVID19 MAGA Coffin Dance Idiot Tribute - Invidious
00:42 TR News; I Escaped From YouTube Jail!! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fnv0gafNWxI | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/fnv0gafNWxI
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fnv0gafNWxI
=> ↺ gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/fnv0gafNWxI
00:42 TR Bot; I Escaped From YouTube Jail!! - Invidious
00:42 TR News; How to install Minetest on Pop!_OS 22.04 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nPtrqMBWXa0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/nPtrqMBWXa0
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nPtrqMBWXa0
=> ↺ gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/nPtrqMBWXa0
00:42 TR Bot; How to install Minetest on Pop!_OS 22.04 - Invidious
00:44 DaemonFC; I leave SELinux enabled.
00:44 TR News; Free Software Foundation: from revolutionary to bureaucracy? https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-voting-members-release-and-sign-code-of-ethics
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00:44 TR Bot; FSF voting members release and sign Code of Ethics Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
00:44 DaemonFC; There's really no good reason to turn it off these days. The last time I had it pop up and complain that the Targeted Policy fucked something I was doing up must have been 10 or more years ago.
00:45 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22071310
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00:45 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/1gzhbk4toxa91.png created on 2022-07-13 03:12:18.601248
=> ↺ https://i.redd.it/1gzhbk4toxa91.png
00:45 TR News; Comcast tells couple theyll need to pay $27,119 to get Home Internet even though the rest of their block is wired for it. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/27/comcast-tells-couple-theyll-need-to-pay-27119-to-get-home-internet-even-though-the-rest-of-their-block-is-wired-for-it/ Source: baronhk
00:45 TR Bot; Comcast tells couple theyll need to pay $27,119 to get Home Internet even though the rest of their block is wired for it. BaronHK's Rants
00:45 MinceR; yeah, got to give all the bugs in SELinux a chance to make your system vulnerable :>
00:47 TR News; Montenegro becomes another satellite state for EPO crooks to buy voters from; it is no secret that voters are up for sale at the EPO as we saw a month ago (Montenegros vote counts the same as all of Germany) http://techrights.org/2022/07/27/epo-for-sale/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/07/27/epo-for-sale/
00:47 TR Bot; Banana EPO: Montenegro, With Population 134 Times Smaller Than Germanys, Will Get a Vote as Powerful as Germanys | Techrights
00:47 matey; <schestowitz[TR2]> in the US there would be gunshots most likely <- not always
00:47 TR News; As we've just shown/discussed, the EPOs corrupting influence is expanding further http://techrights.org/2022/07/27/fake-concern-for-the-epc/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/07/27/fake-concern-for-the-epc/
00:47 matey; too much paperwork when everyone involved is white
00:47 TR Bot; [Meme] Voting Fodder and Faking Concern for the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights
00:47 DaemonFC; Depends on if it's GANG WAR or not.
00:47 TR News; Microsofts so-called encryption (with back doors) is the latest Trojan horse by which to prevent dual-booting with GNU/Linux (or just booting GNU/Linux at all!) and its part of Microsofts delaying tactics http://techrights.org/2022/07/27/microsoft-fake-encryption/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/07/27/microsoft-fake-encryption/
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00:48 DaemonFC; I AM THE LAW! DROP YOUR WEAPONS AND SURRENDER IMMEDIATELY!
00:48 DaemonFC; ;)
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00:48 matey; I watched "the code" and it was really bad <- hmm
00:48 britney; it wasn't bad in a good way either
00:48 schestowitz[TR2]; it was informative
00:48 britney; cuz some things are bad but they're awesome because of it
00:49 schestowitz[TR2]; lots of interviews ther with family
00:49 matey; i really have to see it now
00:49 matey; i know i saw the clip that roy says opens it
00:49 britney; Revolution OS is a superior docu
00:49 matey; cuz some things are bad but they're awesome because of it <- like dune, or the first trek film
00:49 britney; matey, exactly
00:50 matey; revolution os gives a glimpse of how much open source shafted him and free software
00:50 matey; but mostly its about how amazing linux and open source are
00:50 britney; yup
00:50 britney; ESR saying "I'm your worst nightmare" lol
00:50 schestowitz[TR2]; herr herr herr
00:50 schestowitz[TR2]; then grunting at mundie
00:50 DaemonFC; Well, before Mozilla Suite, I don't think there were any open source Web browsers.
00:51 matey; in the upcoming anniversary edition of revolution os, esr says hes "just a nightmare"
00:51 DaemonFC; All of them that I knew of, probably the only thing that was, was maybe Lynx?
00:51 DaemonFC; Graphical? The NCSA Mosaic license wasn't open source, just more permissive than most.
00:51 britney; matey, lol
00:51 matey; i read your quantum thingy
00:51 britney; this is a really good documentary on BBSes (which were awesome back in the 80s-90s): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO5vjmDFZaI&t=13566s
=> ↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO5vjmDFZaI&t=13566s
00:51 TR Bot; https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=nO5vjmDFZaI
=> ↺ https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=nO5vjmDFZaI
00:51 TR Bot; invidious.weblibre.org | BBS the Documentary [Full HD] - Invidious
00:52 matey; id like to watch that
00:52 matey; i used a bbs
00:52 matey; a few
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00:52 matey; 9600, yeeaah
00:52 matey; b p esses
00:52 britney; i had a 14.4k modem at the time
00:52 matey; well i mean i was a pre-teen
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00:52 britney; yeah you're older than me
00:52 matey; so i had a 9600 the size of a lunchbox
00:53 matey; im surprised it didnt have spade connectors or something...
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00:53 britney; i got my first computer for christmas 1995, it was a 16Mhz 386 with 4mb ram and a 120mb disk
00:53 matey; w00t
00:54 britney; my dad put MS-DOS 6.22 on it and Windows 3.11 for workgroups
00:54 matey; my second pc had a 90mb drive the size of TWO 5-inch floppy drives
00:54 matey; and it was partitioned :)
00:54 matey; lets see, 20mb for you... 45 for you...
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00:55 britney; it was awesome when I got a sound card
00:55 matey; yes!
00:55 matey; hello... i am dr sbaitso... i am here to help you...
00:55 matey; all he did was make fun of me :(
00:55 britney; remember mod files for music?
00:55 matey; yesss
00:55 matey; chiptunes
00:55 matey; but with software
00:56 britney; yeah they were pretty awesome
00:56 britney; i downloaded mod files from bbses
00:56 matey; especially the mod players for dos that showed a graphic visualiser
00:56 britney; yaaas
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00:57 matey; or better yet, a graphic visualiser for each track! and then one big one for all tracks
00:58 matey; i think i liked using the player as much as i liked hearing the sound
00:58 britney; i forgot the names of the mod players :/
00:58 matey; im sure you can find screenshots online
00:58 matey; even the dos ones
00:58 TR News; Videos: Minetest, FLOSS Weekly, YouTube Threatens GNU/Linux Vloggers Again Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167737 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/Videos:_Minetest,_FLOSS_Weekly,_YouTube_Threatens_GNULinux_Vloggers_Again.shtml #news
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167737
=> ↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/Videos:_Minetest,_FLOSS_Weekly,_YouTube_Threatens_GNULinux_Vloggers_Again.shtml
00:58 TR Bot; Videos: Minetest, FLOSS Weekly, YouTube Threatens GNU/Linux Vloggers Again | Tux Machines
00:58 TR Bot; Videos: Minetest, FLOSS Weekly, YouTube Threatens GNU/Linux Vloggers Again
00:58 matey; the dosbox people might know
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
00:59 matey; the freedos people (fuck them) might know
01:00 britney; there is cubic player
01:01 britney; i like dosbox-x, it emulates a network card
01:01 britney; i got win3.11 on the net with it
01:01 schestowitz[TR2]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fnv0gafNWxI
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fnv0gafNWxI
01:01 TR Bot; I Escaped From YouTube Jail!! - Invidious
01:01 schestowitz[TR2]; wtf?
01:02 britney; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLZy54lbJ9s
=> ↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLZy54lbJ9s
01:02 TR Bot; https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=qLZy54lbJ9s
=> ↺ https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=qLZy54lbJ9s
01:02 TR Bot; invidious.osi.kr | DOS MOD Player - Invidious
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01:02 matey; i got win3.11 on the net with it <- :)
01:02 matey; have you run windows 1.01?
01:03 britney; nah the oldest windows i've ever run was 3.1
01:04 matey; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLZy54lbJ9s <- im pretty sure ive run this
=> ↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLZy54lbJ9s
01:04 matey; its one of the ones i copied from school
01:05 britney; i think thats the one i used
01:05 matey; i got some great stuff from computer class, including a virus (unintentionally) which i removed from my boot sector
01:05 matey; boot sectors, because boot floppies infected the hd and the hd infected floppies
01:05 britney; the first virus I got was on DOS, the junkie virus
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01:06 matey; such a cool tracker
01:06 britney; I miss hotline server/client
01:06 britney; it was like having a BBS on the internet
01:07 britney; GUI based
01:07 matey; Junkie is a Swedish multipartite virus. It infects hard disk MBRs and COM files. When an infected file is executed in a computer for the first time, the virus overwrites the hard disk's MBR with its own code but does nothing else. During its next execution, the virus goes resident in memory and infects all accessed COM files.
01:08 britney; it also re-arranged the clusters on the disk and made a picture of a bug in defrag
01:08 matey; impressive
01:08 britney; it scared the hell out of me seeing that
01:08 matey; yeah that would be freaky
01:08 britney; my computer was running slow so i ran a defrag and wow
01:09 matey; http://virus.wikidot.com/junkie
=> ↺ http://virus.wikidot.com/junkie
01:09 TR Bot; Junkie - The Virus Encyclopedia
01:09 britney; the second virus i got was nimda
01:09 matey; nice
01:10 britney; and that was the last time i got infected
01:10 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimda
=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimda
01:10 TR Bot; Nimda - Wikipedia
01:10 matey; Nimda is a malicious file-infecting computer worm. It quickly spread, surpassing the economic damage caused by previous outbreaks such as Code Red . The first released advisory about this thread (worm) was released on September 18, 2001. [3]
01:10 matey; omg its al-qaeda doing computer things!
01:11 britney; lol
01:11 matey; /me wraps the modem in ham
01:11 matey; take that, you bastards!
01:12 matey; i think when nimda came out i read how its transmitted and i was like
01:12 matey; pfft
01:12 matey; i was still running windows 98 in 2001
01:13 matey; when there were advisories about vulnerable dlls i would just rename them in dos mode and see if shit still booted and what stopped working
01:14 matey; rarely did i have to rename them back-- though i did have to install a 3rd party pdf viewer
01:14 matey; windows has lots of crap that if you remove, most things still work
01:14 matey; i deleted a LOT of useless shit (after making certain it wasnt needed)
01:15 matey; eventually windows was like "oh no, im the boss" and started restoring things. i turned off as much of that as possible
01:15 matey; by 2004-ish i was using gnu/linux for many things
01:17 matey; "oh no, im the boss" and started restoring things. <- in xp or whatever
01:17 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167738 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/Today_in_Techrights.shtml #news
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01:17 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
01:17 TR Bot; Today in Techrights
01:18 britney; I was running gentoo in 2004
01:18 TR News; FSF Code of Ethics (Censorship) and Hackers on Planet Earth (HOPE) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167739 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/FSF_%27Code_of_Ethics%27_Censorship_and_Hackers_on_Planet_Earth_HOPE.shtml
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01:18 TR Bot; FSF 'Code of Ethics' (Censorship) and Hackers on Planet Earth (HOPE) | Tux Machines
01:18 TR Bot; FSF 'Code of Ethics' (Censorship) and Hackers on Planet Earth (HOPE)
01:18 schestowitz[TR2]; \brbtw?
01:18 matey; Multiple propagation vectors allowed Nimda to become the Internet's most widespread virus /worm within 22 minutes.
01:19 TR News; Mozilla Politics Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167740 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/Mozilla_Politics.shtml #news
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167740
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01:19 TR Bot; Mozilla Politics | Tux Machines
01:19 TR Bot; Mozilla Politics
01:20 matey; Nimda spread through four different methods, infecting computers containing Microsoft Window's web server, known as Internet Information Server (IIS), and computer users who opened an email attachment.
01:21 matey; A system with an exposed IIS web server reads websites containing an embedded JavaScript that automatically executes, causing the same JavaScript code to propagate to all web pages on that server.
01:22 TR News; "These are the books that I'm reading, have read, or haven't read. You may find many of them on Gutenberg and/or Standard Ebooks, and some of them in the care list. If I don't forget, I'll link to their sources. Though less common, if I have a page dedicated to a book of this list I'll link to it instead, like I did with How to Avoid a Climate Disaster" gemini://siiky.srht.site/books/list.gmi
=> ↺ gemini://siiky.srht.site/books/list.gmi
01:23 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D656.jpg
=> ↺ gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D656.jpg
01:23 TR News; Week 2: We Moved! gemini://jagtalon.smol.pub/week-2-we-moved
=> ↺ gemini://jagtalon.smol.pub/week-2-we-moved
01:24 matey; that dirty putin is stealing our 2003 passwords with a time machine https://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240049062/Password-stealing-Lirva-worm-is-spreading
=> ↺ https://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240049062/Password-stealing-Lirva-worm-is-spreading
01:24 TR Bot; Password-stealing Lirva worm is spreading
01:24 matey; this is why you need to change your password if its 19 years old!
01:24 TR News; "Thoughts on Hard Determinism, as described in Philosophy 101, by Paul Kleinman." gemini://siiky.srht.site/philosophy/hard_determinism.gmi
=> ↺ gemini://siiky.srht.site/philosophy/hard_determinism.gmi
01:24 matey; Published: 10 Jan 2003 10:15
01:24 matey; A new e-mail worm is spreading. It which steals Microsoft Windows passwords and sends them to e-mail addresses in Russia
01:25 TR News; Pangamebook 1.3.0 gemini://gem.hexandcounter.org/gemlog/posts/pgbook13.gmi
=> ↺ gemini://gem.hexandcounter.org/gemlog/posts/pgbook13.gmi
01:25 matey; /me stands in alaska and shakes his fist at russia
01:28 TR News; Warpspawn Games gemini://gem.hexandcounter.org/gemlog/posts/warp.gmi
=> ↺ gemini://gem.hexandcounter.org/gemlog/posts/warp.gmi
01:28 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D305.jpg
=> ↺ gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D305.jpg
01:29 TR News; gitclean zsh command gemini://tbeseda.smol.pub/gitclean-zsh
=> ↺ gemini://tbeseda.smol.pub/gitclean-zsh
01:30 TR News; a smol mobile post? gemini://tmo.smol.pub/1658947538
=> ↺ gemini://tmo.smol.pub/1658947538
01:34 DaemonFC; https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/article%3Fhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.nytimes.com%252F2022%252F07%252F27%252Fus%252Fpolitics%252Fmanchin-climate-tax-bill.html
01:34 TR Bot; Gemini Portal
01:34 DaemonFC; "Manchin, in Reversal, Agrees to Quick Action on Climate and Tax Plan"
01:34 DaemonFC; Which family member did they threaten to kill?
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01:43 DaemonFC; I largely avoid the BloatedWeb anyway.
01:43 DaemonFC; So SeaMonkey works well for me usually.
01:51 DaemonFC; BaronHKGeminiSpace is rapidly growing by pod and page count. By bandwidth, the Web will always be ahead of it just simply due to bloat.
01:51 DaemonFC; BaronHKI read news in SeaMonkey by having it all converted to GemText and then back to a simpler form of HTML without any formatting or scripts. Just 10-15 KB of text and HTML formatting. Not hundreds of MB of crap for each article.
01:51 DaemonFC; BaronHKOnce it's in GemText, it's easy to convert back to basic HTML.
01:51 DaemonFC; BaronHKThe Gemini to Web proxy doesn't specify a doctype other than "HTML", but I don't think it's even as complicated at HTML 3.
01:51 DaemonFC; BaronHKIt looks like someone got into nano and wrote out the news into HTML in a very "just the facts" manner.
01:51 DaemonFC; BaronHKYou could teach a 10 year old how to make pages like this.
01:51 DaemonFC; BaronHKIt's really quite good.
01:51 DaemonFC; BaronHKI like Lynx the best under ideal circumstances, but many sites vomit out so much crap that it's not very easy to navigate with.
01:51 DaemonFC; BaronHKEven Richard Stallman is guilty of this!
01:51 DaemonFC; schestowitz When I had my Web site in the late 90s and early 2000s, the source code was more complicated than this, but still very readable.
01:52 DaemonFC; Mozilla Composer (now SeaMonkey) is very good about putting out simple and readable HTML source code.
01:52 DaemonFC; The "doctype" is HTML 4.01 Transitional. I used to figure Transitional must have been "worse" in some way because it was "Transitional", not "Strict".
01:53 DaemonFC; I admit I only learned HTML well enough to use it very basically.
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01:54 DaemonFC; But it turns out that "Transitional" mostly just means that most of what you wanted to use in HTML 3.2 was legal as well as HTML 4. So it just meant that you could use it the way you wanted to for the most part, and still pass a standard conformance test. Even if you didn't use that many of HTML 4's features and mostly leaned on "deprecated" HTML 3.2, much of which made more sense, actually,...
01:54 DaemonFC; ...than HTML 4 Strict.
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
01:59 britney; im eating ketchup chips <3
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02:27 britney; pirates of silicon valley
02:27 britney; "YOU STOLE FROM US!" - Steve Jobs
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02:39 DaemonFC; Oh my. I accidentally left our window unlocked for a couple of weeks.
02:39 DaemonFC; britneyim eating ketchup chips <3
02:39 DaemonFC; That's completely gross and WRONG.
02:40 DaemonFC; Everyone knows you dip potato chips in mustard.
02:40 DaemonFC; I don't eat ketchup much.
02:40 DaemonFC; I use it in meatloaf and sometimes on french fries.
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02:41 DaemonFC; It's just such a weird condiment.
02:41 DaemonFC; You have to do more with it to use it for much else, like turn it into a barbecue sauce.
02:41 britney; DaemonFC, its a canadian thing, the chips have ketchup flavouring on them. im not dunking them in ketchup
02:42 DaemonFC; It's harder to find affordable barbecue sauce without High Fructose Corn Syrup, so I bypass those by taking ketchup with regular sugar in it and using brown sugar and some molasses and various spices.
02:42 britney; DaemonFC, https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tCr0Y0cQicw/maxresdefault.jpg
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02:42 DaemonFC; Again, wrong and gross.
02:43 DaemonFC; Now their salt and vinegar chips or the limon ones are okay.
02:43 britney; i also love salt and vinegar
02:43 britney; dill pickle
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02:43 MinceR; i have salt and vinegar pringles
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02:44 DaemonFC; But if you're going to do anything remotely like ketchup, you savage, you have to do Krunchers. And those are barbecue.
02:44 DaemonFC; MinceRi have salt and vinegar pringles
02:44 DaemonFC; Not exactly the same, but still acceptable.
02:44 matey; /me prefers pepper and vinegar
02:44 DaemonFC; Do they make that?
02:45 DaemonFC; Mandy made "chicken salad" the other day to take to work. And it was so bad that I went to the trash can to spit it out.
02:45 DaemonFC; I almost never do that.
02:45 matey; /me got hungry reading the damned chat, so is making eggs
02:45 DaemonFC; I don't know what he put in it.
02:45 DaemonFC; Ohh, deviled eggs!
02:46 MinceR; i don't think i've seen pepper and vinegar
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02:51 britney; deviled eggs are good
02:51 matey; no, i take vinegar then i put peppers and minced garlic in it
02:51 matey; then i put it on tiny little pieces of toast
02:51 DaemonFC; https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/article%3Fhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.nytimes.com%252Flive%252F2022%252F07%252F27%252Fworld%252Frussia-war-ukraine
02:51 TR Bot; Gemini Portal
02:51 DaemonFC; "We are willing to mix with each other, but we do not want to become a mixed race, Mr. Orban said at a summer youth event in Romania on Saturday, warning of the threat of the West losing its identity."
02:51 matey; /me wants to make deviled eggs with thai peppers
02:52 DaemonFC; No wonder MinceR calls them fideSS. or whatever that was.
02:52 matey; or scotch bonnets
02:52 britney; scotch bonnets <3
02:52 matey; :)
02:54 matey; "whats this?" "scotch egg" "they usually... takes bite and drops it"
02:54 britney; LOL
02:54 britney; i can handle spice
02:54 matey; "what the fuck is that?" "scotch egg" "thats not a scotch egg!" "sorry, scotch Bonnet egg..."
02:54 britney; i use sriracha sauce like ketchup
02:55 matey; one of these days im going to find a way to remove some of the vinegar from sriracha
02:55 matey; but it will probably involve just adding more peppers
02:56 MinceR; DaemonFC: fidSS
02:56 britney; i wish my local grocery store had spicier sauces
02:56 britney; i'd love some ghost pepper sauce
02:56 matey; YESSSSS
02:57 matey; ive never had ghost pepper sauce but i bet its amazing
02:57 matey; ghost peppers yet
02:57 matey; yes
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03:01 britney; i haven't had ghost peppers either, i want to though
03:02 britney; im currently watching pirates of silicon valley
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03:03 matey; is there a youtube link for the code? i want to critique it
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03:04 matey; but im guessing you didnt find it on youtube. i know revolution os has been there forever (it used to be on google video)
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03:04 britney; ohhh roy gave me the link yesterday
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03:04 britney; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMm0HsmOTFI
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03:04 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XMm0HsmOTFI
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03:04 TR Bot; yewtu.be | The Code: Story of Linux documentary (Multilingual) - Invidious
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03:07 matey; /me skips to 2:07
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03:07 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
03:07 matey; jesus, what the fuck-ass-balls happened to ed sheeran
03:08 matey; /me plays "shape of you" for audio while esr talks
03:08 britney; lol
03:09 matey; ed sheeran raymond-- THAT is MY worst nightmare
03:09 britney; i think someone should do a newer documentary, revolution os and the code are almost 20 years old
03:09 matey; yes, and it should be less bullshit this time
03:09 matey; /me thinks of a name
03:09 matey; got it!
03:09 matey; what the fuck happened?
03:09 britney; LOL
03:10 britney; "How Linux became as bloated as Windows"
03:10 matey; WHERE IS YOUR PENGUIN GOD NOW
03:10 matey; what would be even better!
03:10 matey; seriously
03:10 matey; i might actually script this
03:11 matey; take ONLY the absolute worst shit that ever happened in the history of floss
03:11 matey; (formerly libre openly sleazy software)
03:11 matey; and present THAT as the history of gnu/linux
03:11 britney; i only use linux because of steam
03:11 matey; basically, a docu-format "unix haters handbook" but for gnu/linux and bsd, instead of actual unix
03:11 matey; its time!
03:11 britney; steam sort of works in linuxulator (freebsd) but only with native games, not proton games
03:12 matey; all proceeds can go to the get mincer out of hungary fund (it wont make any, and he would surely anticipate that)
03:12 britney; I could use discord on freebsd via purple-discord plugin for pidgin
03:12 matey; but it can totally plug his gofundme, which isnt set up yet
03:13 matey; i actually tried the linux compatibility layer in freebsd
03:13 matey; i got pypy working in it, but nothing gui-based
03:14 matey; i was pretty excited to get (the linux binary for) pypy working, since id been using freebsd for about 2 huors
03:14 britney; steam does work in freebsd via the emulator
03:14 britney; but apparently only native linux games work
03:14 matey; i also tried to get the linux compatibility layer running in openbsd
03:14 britney; if you need to run a windows game with proton its still linux that you n eed
03:14 matey; which they ditched in 6.0, so i installed 5.9 to try to the emulator
03:14 matey; dont waste your time
03:15 britney; lol
03:15 matey; i still have one openbsd 5.9 installation. needless to say i basically never connect an eth cable to it
03:15 matey; though it would probably be fine, i still dont
03:16 matey; 5.9 was before they had their easy upgrade script sadly
03:16 matey; so ill have to do actual work on that one
03:16 britney; why did you let it fall behind so much
03:16 matey; i didnt
03:17 britney; BSD needs a documentary
03:17 matey; 6.8 was already out when i installed 5.9 on that machine
03:17 britney; oh
03:17 matey; which i did because it was the last version that had the linux emulation layer
03:17 britney; ohhhhh ok fair enough
03:17 matey; which works alright in freebsd but in openbsd, meh
03:17 matey; openbsd is NOT the linux emulation os
03:18 matey; use freebsd or maybe netbsd if you want that
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03:18 MinceR; i thought it was removed from openbsd
03:18 matey; and i do think freebsd (as a step) is still better than gnu/linux
03:18 matey; but long term, less so
03:18 matey; and i think kirk mckusick is AWESOME
03:18 MinceR; at least that's what i found when i looked into running brave on openbsd
03:19 britney; yeah there is no brave for openbsd, netbsd and freebsd
03:19 matey; i thought it was removed from openbsd <- thats why i put 5.9 on that one
03:19 matey; because they only removed it from new ones
03:19 matey; i was just trying out the feature
03:20 matey; you can see why they didnt bother fixing it
03:20 MinceR; ic
03:20 matey; i wanted to try it so either 1. i could use it for my own purposes 2. i could say its not worth it
03:21 matey; so i did, and its #2 (in more ways than one)
03:21 MinceR; :>
03:21 matey; the good news is, people using the latest vrsion really arent missing anything
03:21 britney; there is a new tor browser out
03:21 matey; its going to suck im sure
03:21 matey; as its based on one of the suckiest browsers in the world
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03:22 matey; and tor browser only removes a small percentage of the sucking
03:22 matey; but an important percentage nonetheless
03:22 britney; all browsers suck
03:22 MinceR; +
03:22 matey; YES, thats why tor browser is great
03:22 matey; because it doesnt work on lots of websites
03:22 matey; so its a great way to wean yourself off the web so you can use a real protocol
03:22 britney; lynx doesn't suck actually
03:23 matey; imo if im going to use lynx i might as well do what i do now
03:23 britney; lynx with torsocks
03:23 matey; use wget and pipe to a tool that removes html code, then use a text editor
03:24 MinceR; depends on whether you consider 'doesn't work with "modern" websites' as making a browser suck
03:24 matey; i still like the option of accessing the web
03:24 matey; i just dont like USING the option
03:25 matey; the code at 3:07 they got into the mainframe (like in hackers)
03:25 matey; ooohhhhh
03:25 matey; /* extra bits for distance */
03:26 matey; haha, torvalds is wearing a tux
03:26 matey; get it
03:26 matey; gates with a pie!
03:26 britney; lol
03:27 matey; but now linux has the pie in ITS face so
03:27 matey; i guess bill had the last laugh :/
03:27 matey; 3:55 an important message on why 90s hairstyles should NEVER EVER come back
03:28 matey; /me is amazed that she paid actual money for that (unless the studio crew does hair and makeup)
03:28 MinceR; creampie
03:28 matey; because linux got
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03:29 matey; 0 :)
03:29 matey; no, i just bent my horns around into a circle
03:30 britney; its like everything has gone full circle
03:30 britney; can't use bsd because of games
03:30 britney; thats the old excuse for keeping windows
03:30 matey; what do you need besides nethack, really
03:30 matey; but youre right nonetheless
03:30 matey; people who arent moving to bsd
03:30 matey; are doing it for the SAME REASONS we waited to use gnu/linux
03:31 matey; i cant get my accounting software to work in it!
03:31 matey; "there arent any cool programs for it"
03:31 matey; "i have no idea how to fucking use this"
03:31 MinceR; i have a separate machine for games anyway
03:31 DaemonFC; "All content 2022 nytimes.com --- Size: 42.1 KB. 96.11% smaller than original HTML: 1.06 MB "
03:31 britney; 1) Brave, 2) Discord, 3) Element, 4) Steam
03:31 MinceR; and i usually run windows on it
03:31 DaemonFC; LOL
03:32 MinceR; because if the other option is systemd/Linux (steamOS), i might as well just use the real thing
03:32 britney; I do technically have a seperate machine for games, its an xbox console
03:32 matey; 5:01 the new name of "the code" is "torvalds butt"
03:32 matey; thats what im calling it from now on
03:33 matey; and it is flat enough to use as a computer desk
03:34 britney; so even if i toss away steam as a requirement, theres still Brave, Element and Discord that aren't on BSD
03:34 matey; at 7:34 they have torvalds evil counterpart from the mirror universe
03:34 matey; i plan to critique this after ive actually watched it too, with sound
03:34 matey; right now these are just first impressions
03:36 matey; at 7:18 they appear to have a 3d animation of the machine that conrad zuse (who suse is named after) built, but the paper tape cats cradle has been replaced with a robot arm, because "
03:36 matey; "modern features"
03:36 matey; and the screen output is "program running" because damn if that isnt the most useful feedback ever
03:36 MinceR; poor sod is having his name soiled by one of the shittiest Linux distros
03:37 matey; well, he should have told hitler to fuck himself
03:37 MinceR; :>
03:37 matey; not that it probably would have worked out very well for him if he had
03:38 MinceR; according to the wikipedia metric, opensuse is the 3rd worst linux distro and sled is the 9th worst
03:39 matey; a million editor bots cant be wrong
03:40 MinceR; :>
03:41 MinceR; well, many distros are missing from the table and possibly some of them would be before some of the ones already in it
03:41 MinceR; (systemd/adoption table, sort by date released as default ascending)
03:41 matey; their ranking is bullshit because "anything with systemd" should be #1
03:41 matey; followed by "anything made by the nsa" as #2
03:42 matey; or they could be tied since same thing
03:43 MinceR; it's my ranking and it's not very serious
03:43 matey; oh hey, miguel de isatan is in it too
03:43 MinceR; :>
03:44 matey; thatll be fun to watch later
03:45 matey; whenever they make a movie thats just under 60 minutes (i think of a movie as being at least 90 or close enough)
03:45 matey; i think "you guys didnt finish it"
03:45 matey; the mc hammer movie (yes) is almost exactly the same length as the code
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03:48 matey; /me creates a bot to promote narcotics anonymous
03:48 matey; the mc hammer movie is probably better than "the code" too :/
03:49 matey; idea
03:49 matey; get mc hammer to make a movie about gnu/linux
03:49 MinceR; Deep Into The Code
03:49 matey; it makes sense
03:49 matey; mc hammer: started in the 90s
03:49 matey; gnu/linux: started in the 90s ducks
03:50 matey; call it: penguin time
03:50 matey; soundtrack: cant code this / please linus, dont hurt em / help the users on your face
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03:51 matey; "pray" neednt change. it wont save gnu/linux but it certainly needs it anyway
03:51 matey; "what does linux need prayer for?" "because it doesnt have one"
03:51 DaemonFC; https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/article%3Fhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.nytimes.com%252F2022%252F07%252F27%252Fhealth%252Fvitamin-d-bone-fractures.html
03:51 TR Bot; Gemini Portal
03:51 DaemonFC; There's a huge and I would say coordinated attack on people aiming to get sufficient Vitamin D levels.
03:52 britney; if i had some server hardware i'd definately run openbsd on it
03:52 DaemonFC; This isn't the first study I've seen suggesting that a Vitamin D deficiency "isn't that bad" and "doctors should stop prescribing it".
03:52 matey; "im not going to wear this" "cmon linus, you dont look any sillier in hammer pants than you do in a tux"
03:52 matey; "no." "ill pie jim zemlin in the face...." "just one dance."
03:53 matey; richard? "just put in the dance we did at mit to soulja boy"
03:53 matey; hes got a point
03:53 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qatNP2DVAeo
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03:53 TR Bot; https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=qatNP2DVAeo
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03:53 TR Bot; invidious.weblibre.org | Front Line Assembly - Prayer - Invidious
03:57 matey; step 1. use linus to steal gnu from free software
03:57 matey; step 2. use zemlin to steal linux from linus
03:57 matey; step 3. profit!
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04:10 britney; lol matey
04:10 britney; you really hate linux lol
04:18 psydruid; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL381E4mhHY
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04:18 TR Bot; https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=dL381E4mhHY
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04:20 matey; you really hate linux lol <- i hate bullshit
04:20 matey; and thats what "linux" has become
04:21 matey; i hate watching users get cheated
04:21 matey; and watching developers who actually gave a shit getting fucked by co-opters who dont
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04:21 matey; and while thats the name of the game...
04:22 matey; it wasnt, at least for the better developers.
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04:22 matey; linux killed gnu, open source killed free software
04:22 matey; bullshit killed everything
04:23 matey; but i dont think its hopeless. its just fucked.
04:23 matey; (theyre very similar, but as xrevan says)
04:23 matey; (also systemd killed linux)
04:24 matey; roy acts like linux is going to recover
04:24 matey; by the time it gets out from under systemd, it will be dead
04:25 matey; i think a george floyd meme would be in pretty bad taste
04:25 matey; but otherwise accurate
04:26 matey; s/pretty/extremely/
04:26 britney; nah! what would be perfect is those guys who dance with a coffin
04:30 britney; matey, https://i.imgur.com/2jXshfo.png
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04:31 matey; thats pretty good
04:31 matey; but its more complicated that, because gnu is the real loss
04:31 matey; linux will always be one kernel
04:31 matey; gnu (as a fucking os) can use more than one.
04:32 matey; gnu was about freedom
04:32 matey; linux was about linus
04:32 britney; Why don't you make GNU/OpenBSD
04:32 matey; now neither about either of those
04:32 matey; Why don't you make GNU/OpenBSD <- see, its that obvious!
04:32 matey; ive been proposing exactly that for years
04:33 matey; but why would i do that, when hyperbola 1. already is and 2. is more qualified
04:33 matey; ive simply tried to promote the idea
04:33 MinceR; dunno, i thought the OpenBSD userland was good enough
04:33 MinceR; it's the kernel that seems to be buggy and slow
04:33 matey; thats just it
04:34 matey; no one is going to fork gnu if something else is more forkable
04:34 matey; short version: no one is going to fork gnu
04:34 britney; OpenIndiana is GNU/Solaris
04:34 matey; interesting
04:34 matey; dead project tho?
04:34 britney; not dead
04:35 matey; very interesting
04:35 matey; mincer calls it slowlaris
04:35 britney; they forked opensolaris
04:35 britney; i tried openindiana in a vm and it was pretty slow
04:35 matey; i cant imagine that openindiana is more useful to me than openbsd, but its certainly interesting
04:36 MinceR; Obstacle has this habit of suing everyone including their own clients
04:36 matey; ill give it another look to be sure
04:36 matey; yeah, suing your own users is very major record label isnt it
04:36 matey; "i love my fans, i just hate that theyre thieves who steal a living from me"
04:36 britney; lol
04:36 britney; fuck metallica
04:37 matey; "but i love my labels, who are the real thieves but i wont say that because i got tired of making music and now i just shill"
04:37 matey; weird al: "dont download this song! even lars ulrich knows its wrong! (you can just ask him!)"
04:37 matey; go and buy the cd (you cheap bastards!) like you know that you should...
04:38 MinceR; :>
04:38 MinceR; metallica went to shit pretty early anyway
04:38 matey; they should have faded to black after they faded to black
04:38 MinceR; the only point to downloading st. anger is to find out how shitty it is and not to buy it :>
04:39 matey; ive never seen "shit" abbreviated that way before
04:39 matey; like "maine"
04:40 MinceR; lol
04:40 MinceR; maine?
04:40 matey; the state of maine is abbreviated me
04:41 matey; "st. anger"
04:41 DaemonFC; Zemlin.....He's like a zeppelin, piloted by Satya Nadella, that comes by, and steals your Linux, and flies off with it.
04:41 matey; saint, street or shit? my moneys on shit
04:41 MinceR; :)
04:43 DaemonFC; matey"st. anger"
04:43 MinceR; connecticut, georgia, hawaii, iowa, kansas, kentucky and others have the same
04:43 MinceR; it's a pretty common pattern
04:43 DaemonFC; That was pretty bad, but after 1991, they didn't have anything really good.
04:44 DaemonFC; I wonder how much Napster really hurt them given that almost all of their fans probably had the CDs and tapes anyway.
04:44 DaemonFC; By the time Napster even existed, we were already....what? 1998? 7 years past peak-Metallica?
04:45 psydruid; how were the albums that came after st. anger?
04:47 britney; metallica blamed their dwindling sales on napster
04:47 *psydruid is stuck somewhere in between motorbreath and the four horsemen
04:49 DaemonFC; Death Magnetic wasn't as much of a pile of shit.
04:49 DaemonFC; But you had to pirate the XBOX 360 Guitar Hero version unless you wanted your ears to bleed.
04:50 DaemonFC; I know what caused the altercation between the police officer and the guy outside schestowitz's house.
04:51 DaemonFC; The cop was trying to make the guy eat a traditional English breakfast of Heinz beans and toast.
04:51 DaemonFC; And the guy logically assaulted the police officer in response.
04:51 britney; Death Magnetic was okay
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04:51 DaemonFC; mateythe state of maine is abbreviated me
04:52 DaemonFC; So is the Metra Electric District.
04:52 britney; I think at this point, Apocalyptica > Metallica
04:52 DaemonFC; My phone would say "The ME Line is arriving in 5 minutes.".
04:52 britney; I'm currently downloading "Music to be murdered by" by Eminem
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04:56 MinceR; i thought Heinz was usian
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.31 k/sec., IPFS upstream 6.85 average k/sec., average swarm size 296.43
04:59 britney; "YOU'RE STEALING FROM US!" -Steve Jobs (Pirates of Silicon Valley)
05:02 psydruid; I have 3 Apocalyptica albums from around the turn of the century
05:02 psydruid; I haven't listened to them in ages, though
05:02 psydruid; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-YzdvmD2aQ
=> ↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-YzdvmD2aQ
05:02 TR Bot; https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=v-YzdvmD2aQ
=> ↺ https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=v-YzdvmD2aQ
05:02 TR Bot; invidious.namazso.eu | Apocalyptica - 'Seemann' feat. Nina Hagen (Official Video) (Rammstein Cover) - Invidious
05:03 psydruid; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9xqO9kKqyk
=> ↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9xqO9kKqyk
05:03 TR Bot; https://y.com.sb/watch?v=m9xqO9kKqyk
=> ↺ https://y.com.sb/watch?v=m9xqO9kKqyk
05:03 TR Bot; y.com.sb | Apocalyptica - 'Path' (Official Video) - Invidious
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05:12 britney; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UoZX0wdXWI
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05:12 TR Bot; https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=0UoZX0wdXWI
=> ↺ https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=0UoZX0wdXWI
05:12 TR Bot; invidious.weblibre.org | I Started Using OpenBSD - Invidious
05:29 matey; /me sits down to watch the code for real
05:31 matey; ah, i love the stallman clip
05:31 matey; ive looked online for it but i didnt know where it was
05:31 matey; sadly this is probably the high point of the film
05:32 matey; stallman still had his nutsack then
05:32 matey; i dont blame him for being softer now
05:32 britney; lol
05:32 matey; what he was subjected to would kill some people
05:33 matey; this film starts with the real thing
05:33 matey; linus is absolutely the fake version of this
05:33 matey; he didnt do it for freedom. freedom was an oportunity... to make a product :/
05:34 matey; thats what linus was used for
05:34 matey; and he totally went along with it 95%
05:34 matey; (totally minus 5 i guess)
05:34 matey; first myth, open source stands against...
05:34 matey; no it doesnt
05:35 matey; not 3 minutes in and the lying has started
05:35 matey; open source was selling out from day 1
05:35 matey; lying from day 1
05:35 matey; co-opting from day 1. it did it LESS then
05:35 matey; make it linuses. then make it microsofts.
05:35 matey; it wasnt either. it WAS for everyone
05:36 matey; but open source has nothing to do with that
05:36 matey; and it never did
05:36 matey; "hi thats a nice car. ill make it so more people can use it, since you care about freedom"
05:36 matey; "okay"
05:36 matey; 20 years later: ford, gm, etc
05:37 matey; "what did you do? you said youd make it so more people can use it"
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05:37 matey; "sure, and i did! i didnt say they could use it without bowing down to us, did i?"
05:37 matey; 3:02 "a monster... of almost mccarthyan proportions..." <- what, libreplanet?
05:38 matey; "one of the strangest success stories of the nineteen NINETIES"
05:38 matey; roy: linux foundation says it started in 90s
05:38 matey; me: the code is crap
05:38 britney; matey, i noticed that openbsd doesn't have the latest tor-browser
05:39 matey; the code: success of the 1990s!
05:39 matey; openbsd doesnt have any graphical browser
05:39 matey; i mean, theres a tor browser for openbsd, yes
05:39 matey; but thats ports
05:39 britney; oh
05:40 britney; well thats what im talking about
05:40 matey; so its like this
05:40 matey; people in charge of ports
05:40 matey; when theres a new browswer
05:40 matey; they take the code and they do stuff to it, then they make packages, then theyre in ports
05:40 matey; openbsd has both stable and current
05:41 matey; which one are you using?
05:41 matey; current should be more like arch
05:41 matey; i mean youre an arch girl
05:41 matey; you cant expect something as stable as openbsd to compete with arch in terms of releases
05:41 britney; fair enough
05:41 matey; but if you want the arch experience
05:41 matey; use current
05:41 britney; just that its tor browser, you usually want the latest tor browser
05:42 matey; i mean, yes, you do-- and no
05:42 matey; i place zero faith in mozilla. theyre a joke.
05:42 matey; i place SOME in the tor project.
05:42 matey; i place more in openbsd
05:42 matey; so lets talk about pledge really quickly
05:43 matey; pledge is this amazing thing, which that video i showed you is about
05:43 matey; that video is from 2015. what he talks about doing to firefox, theyve done it
05:43 matey; what he talks about "pledge has another part" theyve done that too
05:43 matey; its called unveil.
05:43 matey; theyve done that to firefox too.
05:44 matey; theyve probably done it to tor browser but i dont know how much
05:44 britney; they patched firefox?
05:44 matey; you should really watch the pledge video. it inspiring.
05:44 matey; but they pledge firefox.
05:44 matey; so firefox may be more secure than their tor browser. i dont know.
05:44 matey; i use tor browser because fuck mozilla.
05:45 matey; people shouldnt be using browsers at all.
05:45 matey; i take my chances.
05:45 britney; what should people be using instead of browsers?
05:45 matey; i dunno
05:45 matey; whatever works
05:46 matey; but really, people should be doing less browing and more computing-- and find solutions farther removed from firefox when possible
05:46 britney; protonmail requires a browser so that it can do its e2e encryption
05:46 matey; in the short run maybe thats dumb
05:46 matey; in the long run its better. theres a tradeoff
05:46 matey; alex oliva says crazy shit like this about microcode, so i dont feel too bad
05:47 matey; protonmail requires a browser so that it can do its e2e encryption <- protonmail works on tor browser and firefox
05:47 britney; thats right, those are browsers
05:47 matey; you can use one of those in openbsd
05:47 matey; i do
05:47 matey; when i say people shouldnt use browsers
05:47 matey; i mean it the same way when people say "i should exercise and eat better"
05:48 matey; they should! theyre not GOING TO, but they definitely should
05:48 matey; :)
05:48 matey; maybe theyll get around to it. you know, in their 40s.
05:48 matey; who knows
05:48 matey; this is why i said the code is a pile of shit
05:49 matey; im at 3:10
05:49 britney; the code isn't bad in a good way, its bad in a bad way
05:49 matey; theyre about to say the whole thing is epeetimizeed by the commyoooniteez geefted leederr
05:49 matey; and theyre going to say its fucking torvalds
05:49 matey; and the whole thing is a bunch of fart-huffing bullshit
05:49 matey; but roy missed that somehow
05:50 matey; im not even 4 minutes in and its come to this
05:50 britney; lol
05:50 matey; this is why i havent seen it before
05:50 matey; i saw the cool stallman clip
05:50 matey; then i made it to about this point
05:50 matey; then i said "fuck this" and did other stuff instead
05:50 matey; but ill watch it.
05:50 matey; the point is the same
05:50 matey; fuck this
05:50 matey; linuxthemovie
05:50 matey; get fucked, linus
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05:50 britney; im watching the kevin mitnick movie, "Takedown"
05:51 matey; "invaluable icon, who PLANTED THE SEED for"
05:51 matey; this kind of shit is why people think that idiot made an os
05:51 matey; soon microsoft will say they did it
05:51 matey; god dammit
05:52 matey; and they cut to torvalds
05:52 matey; wankers
05:52 matey; "torvalds decision to distribute linux for free"
05:52 matey; theyre forgetting the time he changed water into wine!
05:53 matey; linus torvalds died for your sins
05:53 matey; that would be great actually
05:54 matey; still not 4 minutes in. amazing how much bs tthey packed into 60 seconds.
05:54 matey; "the best possible operating system in the world"
05:54 matey; well, not anymore.
05:54 matey; the best POSSIBLE!
05:55 matey; linus first words "i didnt want anybody else to go through what i had"
05:55 matey; /me grabs the handkerchief
05:55 matey; no im not going to cry, im trying to wipe this stuff off the producers got on my face
05:56 matey; now he contradicts everything said about this so far
05:56 matey; "it wasnt the big fight against the windmills"
05:56 matey; somehow they decided to talk about linus jesus torvalds
05:56 matey; then have a clip of him refuting all the bs they just said
05:57 matey; but you know, they didnt do it for any reason other than this
05:57 matey; "my god! hes so modest!"
05:57 matey; yes. a modest person co-opts a decade of work then says, very modestly "theres no way i could have done this alone!"
05:57 matey; ever seen a finnish arsehole? im looking at one right now
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 285.18
05:59 matey; then they show another guy but not his name
05:59 matey; then they show who i know to be jon mad dog hall
05:59 matey; then jon mad dog hall talks about linux is the biggest thing ever
05:59 matey; then eric shithole raymond talks about the linux community
06:00 matey; marsha marsha marsha
06:00 britney; i like esr
06:00 matey; theres no accounting for taste
06:01 matey; i tried to figure out esr for like decades
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06:01 matey; final verdict: wtf
06:01 britney; lol
06:01 matey; i think the eric raymond comic nails it
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06:02 matey; 7:24 whats linux? some people say its an operating system
06:02 matey; some say its the most important program
06:03 matey; either way its one hell of a brand to steal OPEN SOURCE with
06:03 matey; 7:30 it has to go back to the person who started it
06:03 matey; ok, linus or stallman?
06:03 matey; if they say linus again fuck this guy
06:04 matey; fuck your mother, andrew leonard
06:04 matey; it had to be someone raised in finland!
06:04 matey; (actually i dont know who the fuck this guyy is. it COULD BE andrew leonard)
06:04 matey; i tried to find him in the credits
06:05 matey; this is pure tripe
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06:05 matey; LINUS TORVALDS IS BORN!
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06:05 matey; merry christmas everyone
06:06 matey; this parts in finnish and doenst even have subtitles, brilliant
06:06 matey; just as well, theyre probably talking about how torvalds invented binary computing
06:07 matey; this movie is an incredible fraud
06:07 matey; i can see why roy likes it
06:07 matey; +10:25 linus is the only person to mention gnu
06:07 matey; everyone else is like TORVALDS IS GOD
06:08 matey; 1991 the soviet union closes down
06:08 matey; what they dont tell you-- IT WAS BECAUSE OF LINUS AND HIS AMAZING OS
06:08 matey; linux is also what ended the violence in ulster and ireland
06:09 matey; he doesnt like to talk about it, but right now torvalds is fixing global warming
06:09 matey; then hes going to end all war
06:09 matey; 12:38 OH THERES A UNIX!
06:10 britney; roflmao
06:10 matey; so theres unix, torvalds mentions minix and gnu, somehow linus is our big hero
06:10 matey; unix was in the beginning a relatively free operating system
06:12 matey; "putting linux out on the net was really the natural thing to do in many ways"
06:12 matey; torvalds on what he did after discovering electricity
06:12 britney; didn't linus invent computers too?
06:13 matey; only binary ones
06:13 matey; they made those paper discs and slide rules when he was in bed with a cold
06:13 matey; but he did do a sketch
06:14 matey; and i cant hear this scene because its in the room with the servers, and linus hadnt invented noise cancellation yet
06:15 matey; 14 minutes:
06:15 matey; the gpl, the license linux uses, from the free software foundation
06:15 matey; the gpl license people
06:15 matey; torvalds is the most honest person in this film
06:16 matey; other than that hippie guy they showed for like 2 seconds
06:16 matey; he seemed to know what was actually going on, but whatever
06:17 matey; 15:43 i dont know what this guys saying but it does sound a lot like the lyrics to levas polka
06:18 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7yh9i0PAjck
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7yh9i0PAjck
06:18 TR Bot; Loituma - Ievan Polkka - Invidious
06:19 matey; 16:12 linus was going to call it FREAX
06:19 matey; but instead, today its called OPEAX
06:22 matey; 18:10 everyones favourite crepe apologist
06:22 matey; who raped and killed a girl in 1990
06:22 matey; this was the guy who would have kept linux viable if someone from novells payroll hadnt destroyed everything
06:23 matey; too bad we stopped boycotting novell
06:23 britney; remember reiser?
06:23 britney; reiserfs used to be the shit
06:23 matey; yeah but ive never met anyone who uses killyourwifefs
06:23 britney; LOL
06:24 matey; maybe they did, but i dont know anyone who does
06:25 matey; 18:55 they show a textscreen with the anti-rms letter on it, despite the fact that it didnt exist yet
06:26 matey; in 1992 torvalds realised there were other people working on the os he didnt invent
06:26 britney; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAomglv541s
=> ↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAomglv541s
06:26 TR Bot; https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=FAomglv541s
=> ↺ https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=FAomglv541s
06:26 TR Bot; yt.artemislena.eu | Will Scammers Notice I'm Using Windows 3.11? - Invidious
06:27 matey; haha
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06:29 matey; /me loves the anti-scammer vids
06:29 matey; i wonder how many of them are fake
06:29 matey; some i know are real
06:29 matey; but its such a predictable genre
06:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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06:30 matey; the last straw was when linus said free software was about hate
06:30 matey; it was actually about freedom, something torvalds will never understand
06:30 matey; open source is about theft
06:31 matey; hes been a dick in my opinion ever since
06:31 matey; before that, my feelings were mixed
06:31 matey; dont talk shit about the people you stole from and co-opted
06:32 matey; id say fuck finland, but itd take years of study to learn how to pronounce it
06:32 matey; (i dont actually hate all of finland)
06:33 matey; the big question is whether torvalds "hates" zemlin doing to him what he did to countless other people
06:33 matey; if he does, it serves him right
06:33 matey; if he doesnt, hes the biggest cuck in all of europe and north america
06:34 matey; 20:49 "it [linux] is not a hierarchy"
06:34 matey; ROFL, really
06:34 britney; i'm 9.9% finnish
06:34 matey; "everyons is free to suggest"... you can make suggestions in a hierarchy
06:34 matey; i'm 9.9% finnish <- haha
06:36 matey; the only time i have any ill will towards finnns is while im listening to something torvalds is saying
06:36 matey; besides, by irish standards, youre canadian
06:36 matey; its americans who think nationality is transmissible through dna
06:36 matey; "african american"
06:37 matey; "ever been to africa
06:37 matey; "no"
06:37 matey; thats fine, we can have different standards about this
06:37 matey; the irish certainly do
06:37 matey; "oh, im irish" "really? what part?"
06:37 matey; "virginia"
06:38 matey; 21:28 linus is very humble! he doesnt try to take credit for stuff he didnt do
06:38 matey; says someone who obviously never watched revolution os
06:39 TR News; Install Proprietary Graphics Drivers on Ubuntu Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167741
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06:39 TR Bot; Install Proprietary Graphics Drivers on Ubuntu Linux | Tux Machines
06:39 schestowitz[TR2]; i'm 9.9% finnish
06:39 schestowitz[TR2]; I'm 40% finlandia
06:40 britney; besides, by irish standards, youre canadian
06:40 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, July 27, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
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06:40 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
06:40 matey; linux: "im 85% other operating system"
06:40 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
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06:40 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
06:40 britney; im 77% british & irish (kinda weird how 23andme categorizes it)
06:41 matey; completely weird
06:45 TR News; "The only data type in Whitespace is "arbitrarily large integer" which can represent a character or a heap address or a plain old integer." gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-07-28_Whitespace__part_3.gmi
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06:45 matey; /me is 50% banana
06:45 matey; my uncle was a minion
06:45 TR News; "I am still working on the I2C driver project during my lunch breaks, to utilize the built-in circuitry for I2C communication on my Rpi Pico, for Mecrisp Stellaris Forth." gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/tech/20220727-0.gmi
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06:47 TR News; xkcd: Air Gap https://xkcd.com/2651/ Source: xkcd | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//xkcd.com/2651/
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06:47 TR Bot; Air Gap
06:47 matey; 24: alan cox was torvalds right hand man
06:48 matey; wow this part is depressing
06:48 matey; he says he wants code that doesnt make aassumptions and doesnt need to be constantly
06:48 matey; he wants linux to be STABLE
06:48 matey; that was the idea
06:49 matey; never happen that way now
06:49 TR News; 15 stories from Tigrays internet siege https://www.accessnow.org/15-stories-from-tigrays-internet-siege/ Source: accessnow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/15-stories-from-tigrays-internet-siege/
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06:49 TR Bot; 15 stories from Tigrays internet siege
06:49 TR News; Access Now's General Counsel and UN Advocacy Manager Peter Micek delivered remarks at the UN OEWG-II Third Substantive Session stakeholder interaction. https://www.accessnow.org/cms/assets/uploads/2022/07/Access-Now-remarks-for-OEWG-II-3rd-Substantive-Session-stakeholder-interaction.pdf
06:50 matey; 25:25 for gods sake
06:50 TR News; This walking machine can mosey in any direction | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/27/this-walking-machine-can-mosey-in-any-direction/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
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06:50 TR Bot; This walking machine can mosey in any direction | Arduino Blog
06:51 TR News; Centimeter-scale lawn mower positioning without GPS RTK | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/27/centimeter-scale-lawn-mower-positioning-without-gps-rtk/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/27/centimeter-scale-lawn-mower-positioning-without-gps-rtk/
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06:51 TR Bot; Centimeter-scale lawn mower positioning without GPS RTK | Arduino Blog
06:52 matey; 27: back to unix
06:52 TR News; "Smartphone sales in China have fallen to a fresh low in the second quarter of 2022, dropping 14.2% year-on-year, the technology analyst firm Counterpoint Research says." https://itwire.com/your-it-news/mobility/china-s-2q-smartphone-sales-plumb-fresh-depths,-vivo-stays-top.html
06:53 TR Bot; - China's 2Q smartphone sales plumb fresh depths, vivo stays top
06:53 matey; 27: stallman talking about source code
06:53 matey; 28 ^
06:54 matey; 29: they start talking about some stallman ugu
06:54 matey; guy
06:55 matey; but theyre not really giving him credit
06:55 matey; he started it
06:55 matey; then linus... you know
06:55 matey; america in wwii
06:55 britney; linus is jeezus
06:56 matey; "when he decided to overthrow corrupt american capitalism in the computer industry"
06:56 matey; i guess they threw it back
06:56 matey; 29:29 stallman sings the free linux song
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06:57 matey; 29:40 they show his office at mit which he was kicked out of because someone wrote some shit on his door
06:57 britney; lol
06:57 matey; (obviously thats not the whole story, which no one but a bunch of "hero worshippers" cre about anyway)
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06:58 matey; Richard Stallman and the Fall of the Clueless Nerd | WIRED
06:58 matey; doing him like they did aaron
06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 192.70
06:59 psydruid; Linus Jesus Lizardus Amongus
07:00 matey; https://stallmansupport.org/comments-in-support-of-richard-stallman.html
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07:00 TR Bot; Comments in Support of Richard Stallman | Stallman Support
07:00 britney; do they show stallman eating stuff off his foot
07:00 matey; i dont know if linux and microsoft are lizards
07:00 matey; but i know that since microsoft took over, linux has more bugs
07:01 britney; microsoft took over linux?
07:01 matey; /me would rather eat something from stallmans foot that something from torvalds arse
07:01 matey; microsoft took over linux? <- actually happened
07:01 matey; theyre PROMINENT on the board of the linux foundation
07:02 TR News; "This is the initial version 1 patch set for the Rust front-end. There are more changes that need to be extracted out for all the target hooks we have implemented. The goal is to see if we are implementing the target hooks information for x86 and arm. We have more patches for the other targets I can add in here but they all follow the pattern established here." https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2022-July/598926.html
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07:02 TR Bot; Rust frontend patches v1
07:03 matey; they infiltrated osi as wel
07:04 matey; /me wonders how many people mention stallmans red shirt realise that mit colours are maroon and grey
07:04 matey; i mean he worked there before and after gnu
07:04 matey; its like saying "those best buy guys are always wearing blue shirts, why"
07:05 matey; except he doesnt strictly have to
07:05 TR News; System76 Releases Hefty Pop!_OS 22.04 Technical Preview for Tiny Raspberry Pi 4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167691#comment-34445
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07:05 TR Bot; System76s Pop!_OS Linux 22.04 Distro Is Now Available for Raspberry Pi 4 PCs | Tux Machines
07:05 matey; also he mentions on his website he wears other colours, but he wears what he likes
07:05 matey; still-- mit colours
07:05 matey; yknow?
07:06 britney; yeah
07:06 matey; lots of maroon stuff in the gift shop
07:06 matey; very common at other universities too
07:06 matey; too bad mit betrayed both stallman and aaron
07:06 matey; i used to love that school
07:07 matey; 32: stallman explains how linux was added to gnu
07:07 matey; to no avail, obviously
07:08 matey; its nice that they let stallman explain this
07:08 matey; but the whole film contradicts it just the same
07:09 matey; and thats pretty much par for the course
07:09 matey; the pattern is pretty much always
07:09 matey; yes, actually, linuses operating system was WORKED ON by richard stallman AND HERES JOE WITH THE WEATHER, joe?
07:10 matey; then the move immediately from stallman to
07:10 matey; THE DAWN OF OPEN SOURCE
07:11 matey; esr takes over from here
07:11 matey; heres this arsehole saying stallman left them worse off than when they started
07:11 britney; FOR A GNU DAWN!
07:11 matey; esr is SO jealous of rms
07:11 matey; FOR A GNU DAWN! <- something like that
07:13 matey; "the term 'open source' doesnt really imply a lot of... political issues like it USED TO" -- linus christ himself talking about how open source USED TO be political in-- whenever this was made
07:13 matey; cut to stallman criticising open source
07:13 matey; cut to esr being a dickmonkeysausage
07:14 matey; Join Us Now And Shareholder Value!
07:15 matey; "im not against business... i do business myself... but i believe busisness should not dominate all of life"-- stallman (35:17)
07:16 matey; "6 weeks flat" in 1998
07:16 matey; the move for most of the community to open source
07:17 matey; so thats when the whole thing started pouring into corporate hell
07:17 matey; "sandal wearing freaks with long hair"
07:18 matey; even in this frame, esr looks like hes going to ask me if i want a balloon
07:18 matey; sandal wearing freaks
07:19 matey; viking hat wearing Businessmen
07:20 matey; "martin luther, meet linus torvalds"
07:20 matey; someone who didnt read very much about martin luther
07:20 matey; "wasnt he that black guy in the 60s? not malcolm x, the nice one"
07:20 matey; hes like will smith, he raps happy
07:21 matey; 36:41 Linus the god
07:21 matey; (no, im quoting this)
07:21 britney; Linus is a god
07:22 matey; "how can we keep from destroying the magic by pouring all of this money into linux"
07:22 matey; i know how! i know how!
07:22 matey; you could have not listened to esr.
07:22 matey; you could have not let torvalds steal gnu.
07:22 matey; but its too late now
07:22 matey; this is why i dont want anything to do with the fucking linux kernel
07:22 matey; all of this bullshit
07:22 matey; and microsoft
07:23 matey; and linus
07:23 matey; these are bugs, not features
07:23 matey; jon mad dog hall explaining that real world = money
07:24 matey; before stepping over some orphans to get in his limo
07:25 matey; 38: the linux death star, also known as red hat, is unveiled
07:25 matey; today known as ibm
07:25 matey; BRILLIANT
07:26 matey; so summing up the film:
07:26 matey; 1. linus is god
07:26 matey; 2. this hippie guy disagrees
07:26 matey; 3. the real world is money
07:26 matey; 4. so we sold the whole thing to red hat, i mean ibm
07:26 matey; i guess you really CANT serve god and mammon
07:30 matey; 39:43 welcome to GHELL
07:31 TR News; Links 28/07/2022: Liferea News Reader 1.13.9 and Code of Ethics at FSF | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/28/code-of-ethics-at-fsf/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/28/code-of-ethics-at-fsf/
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07:31 TR Bot; Links 28/07/2022: Liferea News Reader 1.13.9 and Code of Ethics at FSF | Techrights
07:32 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding: Arduino and ESP32-S3 WiSoC Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167742 Open Hardware/Modding: Arduino and ESP32-S3 WiSoC Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167742
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07:32 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding: Arduino and ESP32-S3 WiSoC | Tux Machines
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07:33 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167743 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/today%27s_leftovers.shtml #news
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07:33 matey; 42: linus the liberator
07:33 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
07:33 TR Bot; today's leftovers
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07:33 matey; of course the word liberator is ambiguous
07:33 matey; sometimes liberate means to make free
07:33 matey; other times it means to steal
07:33 matey; so yeah, ill give him that one
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07:34 matey; "my personal believe system is more one of personal honour" oh jesus
07:36 matey; 44: 25,000 dollars goes to the universally bullshit operating system known as debhat
07:38 matey; 44:16 alex oliva (when he was only 12) shakes torvalds hand and invites him to brazil
07:38 matey; i dknot if thats oliva. hes from brazil and he looks A LOT like oliva (face, hair, build)
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07:42 matey; 47: linux is international
07:42 schestowitz[TR2]; the one of linus asked asbout india?
07:43 matey; well its on a theme
07:43 matey; first oliva from brazil
07:43 matey; or a REALLY GOOD doppelganger
07:43 schestowitz[TR2]; I cannot remember oliva being on there
07:43 matey; im just looking at the face / hair / build
07:43 matey; tbh ive seen loads of brazillians and none look like oliva
07:43 matey; except this guy
07:43 matey; so
07:44 matey; maybe his cousin
07:44 matey; guy from brazil, then india, then a hutch guy
07:44 matey; dutch
07:44 matey; now a guy speaking chinese
07:44 matey; with no subttitles, but ok
07:45 matey; im sure they ripped the subtitles seperately so you could you know, switch them
07:46 matey; dragon linux office has a guy sleeping on the floor between the cubicles
07:46 matey; stallman would approve
07:46 britney; lol
07:46 matey; i mean stallman slept at the mit ai lab and really did live there
07:46 matey; he lived at his office at mit as well
07:47 matey; so he did that before and after gnu
07:47 matey; but there was also some art project called sleeping with stallman
07:47 matey; which is obviously from another era
07:47 matey; which i do not think stallman instigated, but participated in
07:47 matey; and despite the name was completely innocent
07:48 matey; but today of course, it would start a riot
07:48 matey; technically, john lennon and yoko ono did something similar
07:48 matey; except this wasnt a peace demonstration
07:48 matey; i think it was some other kind of thought experiment
07:48 matey; like-- you can sleep in public
07:48 matey; like many homeless have no choice but to do
07:49 matey; but hey, you dont have to be homeless to sleep in public
07:50 matey; sap.mit.edu/article/standard/art-and-political-activism Consisting of a soft platform that hosts three sound compilations and three reading sections, Sleeping with Stallman is a 'hack' into the exhibition space that references sleeping as a form of political resistance.
07:51 matey; Did Richard M. Stallman sleep in a vent at MIT? www.quora.com/Did-Richard-M-Stallman-sleep-in-a-vent-at-MIT
07:51 matey; The ideas generated by "sleeping in public" as a form of social critique led me to an article on Richard Stallman by K.C. Jones in InformationWeek, that notes: "until around 1998, his office at MIT's AI Lab was also his residence. He was registered to vote from there." In other words, Stallman was sleeping on campus.
07:52 TR News; thenewstack = webspam garbage. "Equinix sponsored this post." They post spam ABOUT the companies that about the spam. These are just ADS. https://thenewstack.io/how-our-bare-metal-cloud-keeps-up-with-all-the-new-os-releases/
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07:52 TR Bot; How Our Bare Metal Cloud Keeps up with All the New OS Releases The New Stack
07:53 TR News; Linux CLI in 60 Seconds - apt - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=yE9oct13WTQ | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/yE9oct13WTQ
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07:53 TR Bot; Linux CLI in 60 Seconds - apt - Invidious
07:54 TR News; Its Time to Stop Dual-Booting Linux and Windows Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167744 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/Its_Time_to_Stop_Dual-Booting_Linux_and_Windows.shtml #news
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07:54 TR Bot; Its Time to Stop Dual-Booting Linux and Windows | Tux Machines
07:54 TR Bot; Its Time to Stop Dual-Booting Linux and Windows
07:54 horseface; hi
07:55 matey; "it is socialism in action, even if the libertarians are horrified when that is mentioned"
07:55 matey; evil torvalds at 50:20, who makes a great point and then kills it with one of the worst smug fake left faces you ever saw
07:55 schestowitz[TR2]; hi, horseface
07:56 matey; actually its not so bad if you dont (inadvertently) pause it at just the wrong moment
07:56 matey; 50:40 open source is actually like science
07:57 horseface; :-)
07:57 matey; its not about money, its about STU-- wait, i thought esr-- oh man, here we go again
07:57 TR News; Fedora ditches 'No Rights Reserved' software over patent concerns http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167671#comment-34446
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07:57 TR Bot; Fedora sours on CC 'No Rights Reserved' license | Tux Machines
07:57 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167745 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/today%27s_howtos.shtml #news
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07:58 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
07:58 TR Bot; today's howtos
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
07:59 matey; tso is such a lucid and levelheaded guy
08:00 matey; its a shame thats thats very trait that convinced mjg to help assassinate him
08:01 matey; i have very mixed feelings about that. and by very mixed feelings, i mean mixed feelings
08:01 matey; im not sure my narrative of "corporate hitman" fits him
08:02 matey; i think regarding tso it was "useful idiot"
08:02 matey; but funnily enough, he doesnt agree with me on that
08:02 matey; mixed feelings are bound to result
08:03 matey; "maybe you were somewhat innocent at least, in a way"
08:03 matey; "oh, dont think that!"
08:03 TR News; "Cybersecurity is a hot field and while we've made leaps and bounds in the field, there's also been a growing number of clickbait and sensationalist headlines making the rounds" gemini://remyabel.srht.site/posts/2022-07-28.gmi
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08:03 matey; /me shrugs
08:03 matey; i dont know what to think really
08:03 TR News; "Recently, a cybersecurity "advisor" posted on twitter a screenshot of a supposed Discord scam where an image failing to load allows them to steal your discord token and bypass 2FA. There was only a screenshot, but no technical writeup or proof of concept." gemini://remyabel.srht.site/posts/2022-07-28.gmi
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08:04 matey; phanes must be catching up on work or sleep
08:04 matey; or knowing him, both
08:05 matey; 53:43 is the most weirdly political statement ive ever heard in an open source political documentary
08:05 matey; weirdly political statement ive ever heard in an open source documentary, rather
08:05 matey; "in the most vicious and grotesque pr stunt in HISTORY"-- referring to 9/11
08:06 matey; im not sure that person has learned enough history to make that statement
08:06 matey; you could argue that hiroshima was a p.r. stunt, as well as nagasaki
08:07 matey; and thats without even a moments research
08:07 matey; weird statement
08:07 matey; ONE OF THE MOST perhaps
08:07 matey; the most? ehh, im sceptical
08:07 matey; in american history? see above response
08:08 matey; weirdest segue in a linux documentary? almost definitely
08:10 matey; lol, 55:49 show stallman
08:10 matey; for 2 seconds and fade from his face to linus
08:11 matey; for 6 seconds while he gets smaller
08:11 matey; then show credits
08:11 matey; theres a Ballad of Linus Torvalds
08:12 matey; not the open source song. the ballad of linus
08:12 matey; the operating systems used by the crew
08:12 matey; win 95 98 nt 2000
08:12 matey; mac os
08:13 matey; irix, atari tos, quantel
08:13 matey; and gnu/linux
08:13 matey; first credit with video included
08:13 matey; Linus Torvalds
08:13 matey; of course
08:13 matey; second one, richard stallman?
08:13 matey; yep
08:13 matey; alan cox
08:14 matey; eric raymond, the man who finally made free software work
08:14 matey; (for corporations)
08:14 matey; robert young, red hat
08:14 matey; jon maddod
08:14 matey; theo rapey tso
08:15 matey; executive producer kaarle aho
08:16 matey; probably not related to the unix/awk aho
08:16 matey; well now i can delete that piece of shit
08:17 schestowitz[TR2]; tso
08:18 schestowitz[TR2]; poor lad
08:18 schestowitz[TR2]; wrote something about bush many years ago
08:18 schestowitz[TR2]; now the target of an angry brigade//mob
08:18 schestowitz[TR2]; that cannot produce good code
08:18 schestowitz[TR2]; so marks for "death" those who can
08:18 schestowitz[TR2]; there is a term fore this
08:18 schestowitz[TR2]; evades me atm
08:19 schestowitz[TR2]; when you cannot compete so you ry to handicap the competition
08:19 schestowitz[TR2]; microsoft does this too
08:19 schestowitz[TR2]; e.g. to gnu/linux
08:19 schestowitz[TR2]; infiltrate, disrupt, take down
08:19 schestowitz[TR2]; buys you time, at least.
08:19 schestowitz[TR2]; even if the infiltration does not give you direct control
08:19 schestowitz[TR2]; we have Comes vs Microsoft leaks to that effect
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08:28 matey; #techrights : 07/28/22 07:18 <schestowitz[TR2]> there is a term fore this <- i dont know what the term is, unless its assassination
08:29 matey; thats in line with what carlin said about language
08:29 matey; it used to be called SHELL SHOCK. then it was Combat Fatigue. now its "post traumatic 'stress disorder'"
08:30 matey; poor lad, hope 'es fine syndrome
08:30 matey; it used to be called assassination, now its called cancelling
08:31 matey; of course some assassinations are good things: stalin or hitler assassinations
08:31 matey; and some are BAD: mlk jr
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08:31 matey; i was going to say gandhi but tbh... eh
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08:32 matey; the way gandhis politcs are portrayed as activism you have to wonder what kind of arsehole would kill him
08:32 matey; when you learn more about him you know what kind: ANY kind of arsehole could have
08:32 matey; including someone who is just sort of an arsehole
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08:33 matey; obviously political (that is 'non-lethal') assassination predates cancel culture
08:33 matey; stalin told everyone that his opponent, trotsky, was a nazi sympathiser
08:34 matey; he should have said rape apologist
08:34 matey; stalin was an actual hitler sympathiser, and it got his own men killed and weakened russias defenses
08:34 matey; but like i say these things are built on hypocristy
08:34 matey; shes awful
08:35 matey; i meant hypocrisy
08:35 matey; today its called cancel culture, if carlin is correct then eventually it will become more euphemistic
08:36 matey; stallman "fell out of fashion"
08:36 matey; the coup has already softened their stance on him
08:36 matey; this isnt because theyre going to admit being wrong
08:36 matey; it isnt because they decided to be nice
08:36 matey; its because their work is done and getting back to business means acting like they didnt try to murder the guy
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08:37 matey; but they know that back to business isnt back at all
08:37 matey; its away from all core values
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08:37 matey; and towards their own bullshit, because mission accomplished
08:37 matey; someday youll see that too
08:37 matey; but by then youll say you always did
08:37 matey; even though now you say its not like that
08:37 matey; the coup was defeated
08:38 matey; its not, but i get it
08:38 matey; its an occupation now
08:38 matey; the fsf moves along the values the coup demanded
08:38 matey; in very specific ways
08:38 schestowitz[TR2]; code of ethics
08:38 schestowitz[TR2]; not conduct
08:38 schestowitz[TR2]; ethics
08:38 schestowitz[TR2]; like ethical source
08:38 matey; almost down to wording in some instances
08:38 schestowitz[TR2]; from "kind"
08:38 matey; yes like ethical source
08:38 schestowitz[TR2]; "to code od"
08:39 schestowitz[TR2]; *of
08:39 matey; but also like the things josh gay was saying on twitter days after the selam g and sfc attacks on him
08:39 matey; joshua gay, whether involved or not, knew exactly what-- stated exactly what the coup demanded
08:39 matey; and they got it, january 2022
08:40 matey; practically word for word
08:40 matey; this sort of revolution, im not against it completely
08:40 matey; but i am against exactly what they did, and how they did it
08:40 matey; what they did was treachery
08:40 matey; and what i would have approved of was not treacherous
08:41 matey; they decided their main weapon would be lies
08:41 matey; thats too bad-- they had the people
08:41 matey; but they wanted blood more than they wanted revolution
08:41 matey; if they had wanted revolution more than blood, it would have worked
08:41 matey; they had enough people to demand change without lies and destroying a good man
08:42 matey; i was not aware of that
08:42 matey; or my rhetoric (which was honest) would have been softer
08:42 matey; at any rate they had no idea what i wanted
08:42 matey; and wouldnt have cared anyway
08:42 matey; when i wanted stallman to find an exit, i thought things were his fault
08:42 matey; i thought fsf was mostly loyalists
08:43 matey; when the coup happened i realised that it was actually THEIR fault
08:43 matey; but either way, he was not at the helm
08:43 matey; or less and less so
08:44 matey; its still hard to pinpoint the most important dates (other than the most obvious ones)
08:44 matey; but theres more and more evidence they exist
08:45 matey; the coup is so self-righteous, youd think they would take credit for when they started planning this
08:45 matey; maybe theyre still protecting their sponsors. thats one reason to stay quiet.
08:45 matey; its astroturf-- its meant to look grassroots
08:45 matey; but if it was grassroots they wouldnt be this militaristic about it
08:46 matey; the front of a mob is always sloppy
08:46 matey; but behind that, theyre too smart to show their hand
08:46 matey; which strongly suggests its not their hand
08:46 matey; could a group of activists plan something this well? ABSOLUTELY. and it would not be the first time
08:46 matey; did they?
08:46 matey; i really doubt it
08:46 matey; that story remains untold
08:47 matey; you try to move away from it
08:47 matey; but its politics
08:47 matey; and you know what stallman says about politics
08:47 matey; also, the whole point of an occupation-- what makes it an occupation
08:47 matey; is that it stays
08:47 matey; waiting for that to change just prolongs the stay.
08:48 matey; the longer the occupation occupies, the more damage it does
08:48 matey; its like waiting to perform cpr
08:48 matey; this isnt one where every second counts
08:48 matey; but every day, every week, every month and CERTAINLY every year counts
08:49 matey; the longer you wait, the closer it is to a lost cause
08:49 matey; if you dont do cpr, death doesnt have all day
08:50 matey; i think the damage to the fsf is permanent
08:50 matey; fsfe is worse than dead, fsfla is dormant
08:50 matey; osi is abandoned
08:50 matey; because they have new digs now
08:51 matey; the fsf has an open source creature ready to leap out of its chest and people are like "but i liked the new video!"
08:51 matey; its all marketing now
08:52 matey; its where osi was in 2008
08:52 matey; remember when it was the headquarters of the movement
08:52 matey; it isnt now
08:52 TR News; Antitrust Action Against Microsoft is Well Overdue | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/28/antitrust-dual-booting/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/28/antitrust-dual-booting/
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08:52 TR Bot; Antitrust Action Against Microsoft is Well Overdue | Techrights
08:53 matey; activists have fled the fsf like the people running when the twin towers started to collapse
08:53 matey; running away screaming
08:53 matey; granted some were useless
08:53 matey; but it still follows the pattern of invasian occupation
08:54 matey; when have you ever seen 1. invasion 2. occupation without a lot of the invaders leaving?
08:54 matey; thats how occupation works
08:54 matey; you have a force move in and take over
08:54 matey; they make sure its secure for the occupying force
08:54 matey; then they leave
08:54 matey; its pretty obvious thats what happened, and most of the details support this better than "everythings fine now"
08:54 matey; its not fine, its just not an invasion
08:54 matey; its an occupation
08:55 matey; but its definitely not fine
08:56 matey; one of the differences between invasion and occupation is simple opposites
08:56 matey; in an invasion, you CAUSE panic
08:56 matey; in an occupation, you calm people down
08:56 matey; stallmans a nice guy, he just-- this would never be possible if it was Just One Person
08:56 matey; like how many DECADES has it been since the free software movement was Just Stallman
08:57 matey; the fsf itself had how many founders-- six?
08:57 matey; why the fuck did knauth say that?
08:57 matey; it wasnt just a turn of phrase
08:57 matey; it was a milestone-- the post stallman era
08:58 matey; it sucks
08:58 matey; because just like with torvalds being taken down so he couldnt groom cox and tso
08:58 matey; stallman was taken down so he couldnt groom someone he approved of
08:58 matey; looking back, he probably didnt have anyone worth the bother anyway
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
08:59 matey; but you know what? now we will never know, he had the right, and these arseholes DEFINITELY dont have anyone better.
08:59 matey; so all the point of doing this-- none, from a free software standpoint
08:59 matey; from a free software standpoint, all they did was nuke their feet
08:59 matey; from an open source standpoint, they won like fucking boss
09:00 matey; status: FUCKED
09:00 matey; when enough people realise this, theyll try much harder to get it back
09:00 matey; if you stand by while these fuckers occupy, you get more of the same apathy that led to this mess
09:01 matey; people need to feel like theres something that can be done-- but they wont do shit if they think everythings fine
09:01 matey; and if they know something isnt fine
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09:01 matey; they still wont do anything if it looks like everyone else thinks everythings fine
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09:01 matey; so the best way to kill the future is the sweep problems under the rug
09:02 matey; thats what microsoft does, and windows is never better for it
09:03 matey; speaking of traitors sweeping problems under the rug, http://debian.community/ is down
09:03 TR Bot; connect to debian.community:80; Connection refused ( status 0 @ http://debian.community/ )
09:04 matey; i know theres a new url, it was mentioned here
09:04 matey; im sure i can find it. maybe pococks website mentions it
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09:05 matey; the https redirects
09:05 matey; https://suicide.fyi/debian/frans-pop-debian-day-suicide-ubuntu-google-dep-5-copyright/
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09:05 TR Bot; Frans Pop Debian Day suicide, Ubuntu, Google and the DEP-5 machine-readable copyright file
09:05 matey; https://suicide.dev/debian/debian/urgent-domain-stolen-use-new-url-asap-new-debian-private-leaks/
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09:05 TR Bot; not resolve host: suicide.dev; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://suicide.dev/debian/debian/urgent-domain-stolen-use-new-url-asap-new-debian-private-leaks/ )
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09:06 matey; link typo
09:06 matey; his
09:06 matey; thought it was a mirror, its just a typo https://suicide.fyi/debian/debian/urgent-domain-stolen-use-new-url-asap-new-debian-private-leaks/
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09:06 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://suicide.fyi/debian/debian/urgent-domain-stolen-use-new-url-asap-new-debian-private-leaks/ )
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09:07 matey; two debians
09:07 matey; this one works https://suicide.fyi/debian/urgent-domain-stolen-use-new-url-asap-new-debian-private-leaks/
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09:07 TR Bot; URGENT: debian.community domain seized, use new feed URLs, 7000 new leaked emails
09:07 matey; We note that the Debian gods have only tried to steal the domain
09:07 matey; those are demons, not gods
09:08 matey; gods dont wear a tie
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09:12 matey; If you rely on Debian and if you need to know the truth about modern slavery, people trafficking and integrity in open source, please follow and share the new URLs.
09:12 matey; tbh he has the right idea
09:13 matey; the details i dont know
09:13 matey; but open source exploits people
09:13 matey; and the more free software turns into open source, they more it exploits people (like stallman, like everyone they lied to) too
09:14 matey; even your place, which was open source from its inception
09:14 matey; the more open source it gets, the more it exploits
09:14 matey; as far as i know
09:14 matey; i know whats on their website and what you say
09:15 matey; i know your bosses twitter but its not interesting, its only useful for seeing when you started
09:15 matey; but if it was doing its job youd stay longer
09:16 matey; hell, i only know youre leaving because you said so
09:17 matey; but pocock has the right idea
09:17 matey; the effect of open source on free software
09:17 matey; was to change it from a movement that liberates, to one that exploits
09:17 matey; it wouldnt be useful to microsoft any other way
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09:18 matey; ibm bought red hat and exploited it
09:18 matey; red hat was already exploiting the good will of countless people
09:19 matey; linus exploited stallman, zemlin exploited torvalds
09:19 matey; this was supposed to be about freedom
09:19 matey; now you see (or ought to see) exactly what must be subtracted for it to BE freedom
09:20 matey; this is a little over the top
09:20 matey; "New debian-private leaks for July and August 2022: the DebConf room-sharing lists are coming. See the conflicts of interest in Debian cabals bedroom-by-bedroom, bed-by-bed. Read it safely online without the grunts and odours of DebConf dormitories."
09:20 matey; grunts and odours
09:20 matey; im tempted to steal that
09:21 matey; he almost writes like a failed poet, but one with... poetential
09:22 matey; id rather read this, i dont care much about poetry
09:25 matey; The Open Source mafia has been putting far too much pressure on volunteers in recent years. We decided to look at the cases of those who didn't survive.
09:27 matey; This appears to be an FSFE connected suicide. FSFE are the Germans who pretend to follow Richard Stallman while in fact over 60 percent of their funding comes from Google, Red Hat and Ubuntu. Georg Greve and Karsten Gerloff both commented on the tribute page. https://fsfellowship.news/list-of-open-source-suicides-and-accidents-volunteers-developers/
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09:27 TR Bot; List of Open Source suicides and accidents: volunteers and developers down
09:28 matey; When the lynch mob attacked Stallman in 2019, people were quick to question whether he faces the risk of suicide.
09:28 matey; it occurred to me almost instantaneously
09:28 matey; stallman describes free software as his child
09:29 matey; hes also all over the spectrum, diagnosed or not, and suicides are a higher risk (as with trans) in that group
09:29 matey; by a lot
09:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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09:30 matey; stallman is very stubborn. VERY stubborn. but his branches clearly bent to this wind instead of breaking
09:30 matey; but my first thought "god, theyre literally going to kill him"
09:30 matey; even without age as a factor. which it is
09:30 matey; you people have absolutely taken years off his life
09:31 matey; a murder of attrition
09:31 matey; for what
09:31 matey; some things that were more untrue than true
09:31 matey; for opportunism
09:31 matey; for spite
09:31 matey; but above all, for petty bullshit
09:31 matey; and someones greed, but whose
09:32 matey; they spoke power to truth
09:32 matey; and called it the opposite
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09:36 matey; http://www.goodgnus.org/2009/07/in-memoriam/
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09:36 TR Bot; not resolve host: www.goodgnus.org; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://www.goodgnus.org/2009/07/in-memoriam/ )
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09:36 matey; thats too bad
09:37 matey; The Wayback Machine has not archived that URL.
09:37 matey; richard rothman
09:37 matey; hard to find much about him
09:37 schestowitz[TR2]; never heard the name
09:37 schestowitz[TR2]; and you know me,a neophile
09:37 schestowitz[TR2]; I read all day long
09:37 schestowitz[TR2]; the name does not ring a bell
09:38 schestowitz[TR2]; we need memorian of the memoriam
09:38 schestowitz[TR2]; thomas lord died weeks ago
09:38 matey; fsfe suicide
09:39 matey; but before the traitor years
09:39 matey; he was a fellow
09:39 matey; in the fsfe sense
09:39 matey; only know this because pocock is compiling a list of deaths
09:39 schestowitz[TR2]; massive brain haemorrhage
09:40 matey; and referring to them all as suicides (because many are) and "accidents"
09:40 schestowitz[TR2]; he had a motorcycle accident some years ago
09:40 matey; i dont think of a heart attack as an accident but i suppose it could be
09:40 matey; tripped and had a heart attack
09:40 matey; this specifically lists someone who "is no longer with us" for "reasons only he knows"
09:41 matey; that doesnt imply a motorcycle accident
09:41 matey; it implies a suicide with no note
09:41 TR News; #HowTo Create Multiple Files and Directories at Once in a Linux Terminal Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167746
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09:41 TR Bot; How to Create Multiple Files and Directories at Once in a Linux Terminal | Tux Machines
09:41 matey; the kind surest to leave people in the most anguish
09:41 matey; always wondering
09:41 matey; im not trying to say its selfish but
09:42 matey; if you do that, ffs write a note
09:42 schestowitz[TR2]; a fellow studnet himself
09:42 schestowitz[TR2]; under the same supervisotr as me
09:42 schestowitz[TR2]; who was demanding
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; he was found days later
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; roitting
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; the smell
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; sorry
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe typos due to low ram
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; *fellow student killed himself
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; keyboard going on an d off
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09:44 matey; so both network issues and ram cause typos?
09:45 matey; i believe you about synergy of course. i dont think youre holdinggggggggggg keyssssssss dowwwwwwn
09:45 matey; mine are caused by shitting typing
09:45 matey; of course i always blame the keyboard. its like having a cat
09:45 matey; the cat did it
09:45 matey; mine are caused by shitting typing <- including this one ffs
09:46 matey; ok, mine are caused by offending the god of typing
09:46 matey; who completely has it out for me, im certain of it
09:47 matey; i dont think youre holdinggggggggggg keyssssssss dowwwwwwn
09:48 matey; unless that exactly what you want us to think...
09:48 matey; ...
09:52 schestowitz[TR2]; it's about kde neon
09:52 schestowitz[TR2]; nd thunderbird taking up far too much ram
09:52 schestowitz[TR2]; *and
09:52 schestowitz[TR2]; more details in #boycottnovell
09:57 matey; it's about kde neon
09:57 matey; so ive decided that kde will never be free software
09:57 matey; not in any useful way
09:57 matey; i mean it wont ever be controlled by anyone except kde and the companies that control kde
09:57 matey; if it were really free software, freedom 3 would be in practice, not just on paper
09:58 schestowitz[TR2]; qt or kde?
09:58 schestowitz[TR2]; suse used to be dominant there
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09:58 matey; both
09:58 schestowitz[TR2]; there is a poarallel crisis
09:58 schestowitz[TR2]; regaridng form factors
09:58 schestowitz[TR2]; hence, plasma mobile
09:58 matey; or as i said
09:58 matey; both
09:58 schestowitz[TR2]; snd same for gnome
09:58 matey; yep, gnome will never be free software either
09:58 schestowitz[TR2]; they realise fewer people use this old [sic] form factor
09:58 schestowitz[TR2]; and try to stay ahead, more relevant
09:58 matey; gnome is arseholeware
09:58 schestowitz[TR2]; like FirefoxOS
09:58 matey; the devs are arseholes, the software itself is an arsehole
09:58 schestowitz[TR2]; gnome is not for me
09:59 schestowitz[TR2]; it's trying another kind of user
09:59 schestowitz[TR2]; to get tranbslency in gnome I wrote a command line script
09:59 matey; the self-hating user
09:59 schestowitz[TR2]; plasma is still very good
09:59 matey; gnome is for people who prefer margarine
09:59 schestowitz[TR2]; MinceR thinks it's stil KDE 4.0
09:59 matey; it doesnt taste as good and it tries to kill you
09:59 schestowitz[TR2]; but it's not, it's very stable and has all the features fully restored
10:00 schestowitz[TR2]; just killall stuff that starts with akonadi
10:00 schestowitz[TR2]; about 12 processes
10:00 schestowitz[TR2]; inc. a mysql process (!!)
10:00 matey; wtf
10:00 schestowitz[TR2]; it's for kamil I think
10:00 schestowitz[TR2]; kmail search
10:01 schestowitz[TR2]; I don't want to manage a whole daatabase server on my laptop
10:01 schestowitz[TR2]; kde used to bbe plain text config files strictyl
10:01 schestowitz[TR2]; that you can even edit by hand
10:01 matey; now you have systemk
10:02 matey; wait until kde makes it into the kernel
10:02 matey; kd(e)bus
10:02 matey; then the kernel will need mysql
10:03 matey; to keep track of processes
10:03 matey; but but
10:03 matey; but
10:03 matey; it will at least achieve something apple has tried for years to accomplish, in vain
10:03 matey; a Graphical Kernel
10:03 matey; :D
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10:05 matey; maybe linux will move from the cpu entirely
10:05 matey; to use only the gpu
10:05 matey; now your core dump can double as a screensaver
10:06 matey; kernel-oopscreensaver
10:06 matey; gkhs greatest hits
10:16 schestowitz[TR2]; hits and runs
10:16 schestowitz[TR2]; gpu on its own would not work
10:16 schestowitz[TR2]; unless it's one of those hybrids
10:16 schestowitz[TR2]; the old days,
10:16 schestowitz[TR2]; gpu would be,
10:16 schestowitz[TR2]; something that takes graphical directives
10:16 schestowitz[TR2]; and then processes them faster
10:17 schestowitz[TR2]; iircfrom command to raster space
10:17 schestowitz[TR2]; not sure what gpu means now
10:17 schestowitz[TR2]; the g is no longer applicable
10:17 schestowitz[TR2]; they're just accelerators
10:17 schestowitz[TR2]; that suck up lots of power
10:17 TR News; LibreOffice vs OpenOffice: Whats the Difference? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167747
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10:17 TR Bot; LibreOffice vs OpenOffice: Whats the Difference? | Tux Machines
10:18 TR News; 4 Best Free and Open Source C Static Site Generators Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167748
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10:18 TR Bot; 4 Best Free and Open Source C Static Site Generators | Tux Machines
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10:20 TR News; Open Access https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/nature-and-university-california-expand-open-access-pact | Source: Times Higher Education
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10:20 TR Bot; Nature and University of California expand open-access pact | Times Higher Education (THE)
10:21 TR News; Python https://pythonspeed.com/articles/vectorization-python-alternatives/ | Source: Python Speed
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10:21 TR Bot; The limits of Python vectorization as a performance technique
10:21 TR News; Health https://www.salon.com/2022/07/27/depression-capitalism-brain-chemistry/ | Source: Salon
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10:21 TR Bot; may not stem from a "chemical imbalance" after all suggesting the problem is social | Salon.com
10:22 TR News; Proprietary Windows TCO https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3577233-us-ukraine-sign-pact-to-expand-cooperation-in-cyberspace/ | Source: The Hill
10:22 TR Bot; US, Ukraine sign pact to expand cooperation in cyberspace | The Hill
10:22 TR News; Proprietary Windows TCO https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/ransomware-attacks-enabled-by-%e2%80%98malicious-insider%e2%80%99-warns-gigamon.html | Source: IT Wire
10:23 TR Bot; - Ransomware attacks enabled by malicious insiders warns Gigamon
10:23 TR News; Proprietary Windows TCO https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/07/government-should-incentivize-information-sharing-for-ransomware-attacks-experts-say/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast
10:23 TR Bot; Government Should Incentivize Information Sharing for Ransomware Attacks, Experts Say : Broadband Breakfast
10:29 TR News; "Since UEFI firmware is embedded in a chip on the motherboard and not written to the hard drive" https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/cosmicstrand-uefi-rootkit/45017/ | Source: Kaspersky http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI
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10:29 TR Bot; rootkit hides in the UEFI firmware | Kaspersky official blog
10:29 TR Bot; UEFI - Techrights
10:30 TR News; "Security researchers with Kaspersky have analyzed a UEFI firmware rootkit that appears to target specific motherboard" https://www.securityweek.com/chinese-uefi-rootkit-found-gigabyte-and-asus-motherboards | Source: Security Week http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI
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10:30 TR Bot; UEFI Rootkit Found on Gigabyte and Asus Motherboards | SecurityWeek.Com
10:30 TR News; "Rootkits are malware implants which burrow themselves in the deepest corners of the operating system." https://securelist.com/cosmicstrand-uefi-firmware-rootkit/106973/ | Source: Kapersky http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI
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10:30 TR Bot; the discovery of a sophisticated UEFI firmware rootkit | Securelist
10:30 TR News; "Earlier this year, Kasperksy identified anoother UEFI rootkit called MoonBounce" https://duo.com/decipher/new-cosmicstrand-uefi-rootkit-variant-found | Source: Duo http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI
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10:30 TR Bot; New CosmicStrand UEFI Rootkit Variant Found | Decipher
10:30 matey; gpu on its own would not work <- it shouldnt, but this was parody
10:31 matey; they're just accelerators that suck up lots of power <- lol
10:31 schestowitz[TR2]; there are other PUs now
10:31 matey; gpu = stove, gnome = frozen molasses
10:31 schestowitz[TR2]; those are marketing terms
10:31 schestowitz[TR2]; not even for G
10:32 matey; the more bloated gnome is, the more cpu cycles you can spend on what might as well be clippy
10:32 matey; hi, it looks like youre trying to waste computer resources! can i help?
10:33 matey; some sports cars accellerate so fast they have to deploy a parachute
10:33 matey; gnome is that parachute
10:34 matey; without it, your cpu could leap free of its mooring
10:36 matey; you will never have a seizure while using gnome, because nothing will able to change brightness quickly enough while gnome is runninh
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10:42 TR News; "The changes are a part of Googles overall new approach to the Workspace suite" https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/27/23281237/google-gmail-redesign-ui-opt-out-chat-meet-spaces | Source: The Verge
=> ↺ https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/27/23281237/google-gmail-redesign-ui-opt-out-chat-meet-spaces
10:42 TR Bot; Google is switching your Gmail interface to this new look - The Verge
10:42 TR News; "The Irish government on Wednesday said it will appoint two additional commissioners to Ireland's Data Protection" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/ireland-to-appoint-new-commissioners-to-data-privacy-regulator/93178452 | Source: India Times
10:42 TR Bot; Ireland to appoint new commissioners to data privacy regulator, CIO News, ET CIO
10:45 TR News; Stop calling it "SECURE" boot. When you do, you help Microsoft's propaganda http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI
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11:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2] Mandy says they have him doing price adjustments.
11:28 DaemonFC; I asked him what's going up and down.
11:28 DaemonFC; Food is obviously still going up, but toys and clothing are down.
11:29 DaemonFC; Walmart is cutting prices because people are buying less of it and they have to move stock to free up warehouse room for seasonal rotation.
11:30 DaemonFC; https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/personalfinance/9-mistakes-everyone-makes-at-the-grocery-store/ss-AA102OvS
11:30 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MSN
11:30 DaemonFC; "Most people don't think of groceries as a bill." -MSN News (LOL)
11:30 DaemonFC; And of course it's an ad carousel disguised as a story.
11:31 DaemonFC; Don't shop based on recipes! It won't go on sale at the same time!
11:31 DaemonFC; I shop at Walmart. No sales.
11:32 DaemonFC; The entire point of a "sale" at a grocery store is to lure people in every week because they know you probably won't just buy what's on sale, so your total bill will be much higher.
11:35 DaemonFC; schestowitz There's no point trying to stay ahead of UEFI malware. You only generally get security updates if you buy a "business" PC.
11:35 DaemonFC; Otherwise Lenovo doesn't even do that.
11:35 DaemonFC; And if you apply the updates, eventually one of them will brick the motherboard, or at least Windows.
11:36 DaemonFC; But Microsoft leaves you in a catch-22 where Windows Update will eventually demand a UEFI update to get the next release of Windows.
11:36 DaemonFC; But if you install the firmware update, could destroy your entire PC.
11:37 schestowitz[TR2]; why read msn?
11:37 schestowitz[TR2]; microsoft laid off editors there
11:37 schestowitz[TR2]; said it would let HEY Hi replace themn
11:37 schestowitz[TR2]; i.e. marketing BS
11:37 schestowitz[TR2]; no human judgment
11:37 DaemonFC; Nope. Just random garbage.
11:39 DaemonFC; MSN Poll "Are you afraid you may lose your job in a recession?" 48% say "Not applicable" out of 15,000 replies.
11:39 DaemonFC; Can't lose a job if you don't have a job.
11:40 DaemonFC; Do the "Can't lose yo' job!" dance!
11:40 schestowitz[TR2]; let's say 250 million caan work
11:40 schestowitz[TR2]; or even 200
11:40 schestowitz[TR2]; how many work full time? less than 100
11:40 schestowitz[TR2]; so figure out the unemployment rate
11:41 schestowitz[TR2]; a singla person in the US cannot live on part timne
11:41 schestowitz[TR2]; not with health insurnace
11:41 schestowitz[TR2]; not with this inflation
11:41 DaemonFC; Yeah, Mandy thought he'd give me a stroke by getting in the car and saying they were cutting his hours only to tell me he was bullshitting me.
11:41 DaemonFC; I don't know how they could cut his hours with that group of assclowns he works with not doing any work.
11:42 DaemonFC; But that's how large companies do things. Just cut everyone and don't inspect to see who is working and should just get fired.
11:42 DaemonFC; Just turn "cut hours" into a welfare program for the non-productive people.
11:42 DaemonFC; *working or not working
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11:43 DaemonFC; Small businesses can't afford to have people on the clock doing nothing, stealing Cokes out of the machine, so they ditch those people.
11:43 TR News; Windows TCO https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/27/23281215/microsoft-austrian-commercial-spyware-dsirf-knotweed-intelligence-committee | Source: The Verge
11:43 TR Bot; Microsoft says it caught an Austrian spyware group using Windows 0-day exploits - The Verge
11:43 TR News; Facebook "revenue drops $28.8 billion" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3576764-meta-revenue-drops-28-8-billion-in-second-quarter/ | Source: The Hill
=> ↺ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3576764-meta-revenue-drops-28-8-billion-in-second-quarter/
11:43 TR Bot; Meta revenue drops $28.8 billion in second quarter | The Hill
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11:43 DaemonFC; The boss figures out who they are right away and deals with it.
11:43 TR News; [Old] "When we read articles on the Internet, we need to become more aware that we are literally being bombarded by a nuclear firestorm of lies." https://learnlinuxandlibreoffice.org/news/false-accusations-against-linux-security-continue |
=> ↺ https://learnlinuxandlibreoffice.org/news/false-accusations-against-linux-security-continue
11:43 TR Bot; False Accusations Against Linux Security Continue
11:44 TR News; Graft is a gentleman's form of THEFT https://www.computerworld.com/article/3668175/us-senate-approves-52-billion-for-chipmakersbut-not-designers.html | Source: Computer World
11:44 TR Bot; Senate approves $52 billion for chipmakersbut not designers | Computerworld
11:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz The $29 billion hit was caused entirely by the $10 million hit caused by Apple, again.
11:44 TR News; Facebook dying. Twitter is likely dead already, just not officially. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/meta-q2-2022-earnings-1235187468/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter
=> ↺ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/meta-q2-2022-earnings-1235187468/
11:44 TR Bot; Meta Q2 2022 Earnings: Revenue Declines The Hollywood Reporter
11:45 TR News; "engagement trends" https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/27/23281294/facebook-meta-revenue-declines-for-first-time | Source: The Verge
=> ↺ https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/27/23281294/facebook-meta-revenue-declines-for-first-time
11:45 TR Bot; Meta reports revenue decline for the first time in Q2 earnings - The Verge
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11:45 DaemonFC; "The parent company of Facebook and Instagram saw a 1 percent drop in revenue and 36 percent decline in net income."
11:45 DaemonFC; schestowitz Malinvestment
11:45 schestowitz[TR2]; stfu, DaemonFC
11:45 schestowitz[TR2]; it's a 2 TRILLION DOLLAR COMPANY
11:45 schestowitz[TR2]; oh, wait
11:45 schestowitz[TR2]; no
11:45 schestowitz[TR2]; 1.5
11:45 schestowitz[TR2]; 1
11:45 schestowitz[TR2]; 0.5
11:45 schestowitz[TR2]; 0.15
11:45 schestowitz[TR2]; ah, OK
11:46 schestowitz[TR2]; adjusted for reality
11:46 schestowitz[TR2]; get your shitcoin today
11:46 schestowitz[TR2]; equally volatile
11:46 schestowitz[TR2]; if you don't "invest" your savings, you're missing out on "the market"
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11:47 TR News; Misinformation/Disinformation: "Discovery Engine" = brainwash model for "engagement" https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/27/23281451/facebook-instagram-meta-recommendation-discovery-engine-ai | Source: The Verge
11:47 TR Bot; Instagram, Facebook to show more posts from accounts you dont follow - The Verge
11:48 TR News; "The campaign to restore the SEP_Australias Twitter account was a success and after nearly a week of being locked out" https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/07/28/uigz-j28.html | Source: WSWS
=> ↺ https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/07/28/uigz-j28.html
11:48 TR Bot; WSWS readers, workers and students denounce disciplining of Dr Berger and SEP Twitter lock - World Socialist Web Site
11:48 DaemonFC; " In the video, Mosseri attempted damage control by arguing that more users are sharing and consuming videos so that the company will have to lean into that shift toward video while continuing to support photos."
11:48 DaemonFC; OM NOM NOM VIDEO OM NOM
11:48 DaemonFC; KETCHUP!!!!
11:48 *DaemonFC spits it out
11:48 schestowitz[TR2]; " consuming video"
11:48 schestowitz[TR2]; yum!!!!
11:48 DaemonFC; OKAY, WHO IS THE DEAD CANADIAN ASSHOLE THAT PUT KETCHUP IN THIS!?
11:48 schestowitz[TR2]; That video was... DELICIOUS
11:49 schestowitz[TR2]; MOAR pls!!
11:49 DaemonFC; I am TRYING to CONSUME video here!
11:49 schestowitz[TR2]; on nom nom
11:49 schestowitz[TR2]; *om
11:49 schestowitz[TR2]; "let me put my apron on"
11:50 DaemonFC; schestowitz It amuses me that McDonalds has a "steak" breakfast sandwich.
11:50 DaemonFC; They always look at me funny when I tell them that instead of a steak, egg, and cheese bagel, I want it on a McGriddle.
11:51 DaemonFC; They go "Huh?". I say, "It's real easy. You take a McGriddle, you use a steak patty instead of a sausage one, and now you have the steak, egg, and cheese McGriddle.".
11:51 DaemonFC; Still hiring from the shallow end of the gene pool, I see!
11:56 schestowitz[TR2]; naaa
11:56 schestowitz[TR2]; depends where
11:56 schestowitz[TR2]; some people have no choice but to work there
11:56 schestowitz[TR2]; i worked in burger king
11:56 schestowitz[TR2]; but I was a pupil
11:58 DaemonFC; schestowitz Yeah, but that's when the customer said "And I want a tomato on that." and you hit the + and .10 and there was a tomato.
11:58 DaemonFC; Now IBM has it to where they don't know how to do that thanks to a computer.
11:58 DaemonFC; ")
11:58 DaemonFC; Errr, :)
11:59 DaemonFC; It's a lot cheaper to make a "deluxe" version of the "spicy chicken".
12:00 schestowitz[TR2]; is that what they call it?
12:00 schestowitz[TR2]; spiced up chicken
12:00 schestowitz[TR2]; chicken with spice
12:00 DaemonFC; You take the 2 for $4 thing and add lettuce, tomato, and pickles, and it comes out to $4.40 for two of 'em, which is less than what one of their spicy "premium chicken" sandwiches cost.
12:00 schestowitz[TR2]; is it even chicken?
12:00 schestowitz[TR2]; or chicken remnants
12:01 DaemonFC; It's like a hit and spicy mcchicken or something.
12:01 schestowitz[TR2]; like skin and spleens cured?
12:01 DaemonFC; hot
12:01 schestowitz[TR2]; "may contain chicken"
12:01 schestowitz[TR2]; "may contain chicken breast and wings"
12:01 schestowitz[TR2]; "may"
12:01 schestowitz[TR2]; they have in the ingredients "chiken fats"
12:01 schestowitz[TR2]; so they can technically claim the fats are "chicken"
12:02 schestowitz[TR2]; very cheap "chicken"
12:02 schestowitz[TR2]; when yoiu buy chicken now half the weiught might be you just paying for water
12:02 schestowitz[TR2]; contained inside a chicken's body,m "dressed"
12:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz The premium version says all white meat chicken.
12:02 DaemonFC; It is a bit juicier and seems to be chicken breast.
12:03 schestowitz[TR2]; with pellets
12:03 schestowitz[TR2]; and growth hormones
12:03 schestowitz[TR2]; to make them grow faster
12:03 DaemonFC; The cheap-o "McChicken" is basically ground up thighs and stuff.
12:03 DaemonFC; Pressed into a patty.
12:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz Yeah, I fried up some chicken in the air fryer the other day.
12:04 schestowitz[TR2]; as an experiment
12:04 DaemonFC; Just go over it really good with some lemon pepper seasoning and then dip it in flour and spritz with oil and 14 minutes at 360, flip, 11 minutes.
12:04 schestowitz[TR2]; put the chicken in pyrex
12:04 schestowitz[TR2]; measure weight with pyrex
12:04 schestowitz[TR2]; do the same after cooking it
12:04 schestowitz[TR2]; and after draining out the "juices" in it
12:05 schestowitz[TR2]; see the difference in weight
12:05 schestowitz[TR2]; compare to what the package said
12:05 DaemonFC; Yeah, they inject it with broth.
12:05 DaemonFC; That way they sell you basically water at "chicken" prices.
12:05 schestowitz[TR2]; capitalism
12:05 schestowitz[TR2]; cereal packs get smaller
12:05 schestowitz[TR2]; cartons same size
12:05 schestowitz[TR2]; same for chicken
12:05 schestowitz[TR2]; you buy water
12:05 schestowitz[TR2]; or "broth"
12:06 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe they'll just feed steriliseer down the chicken's throat
12:06 schestowitz[TR2]; for maximal revenue
12:06 schestowitz[TR2]; and then some fertiliser too
12:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz The government has such open contempt for its "subjects".
12:06 DaemonFC; Then RMS comes along and tells us to obey, obey, OBEY!!!!!
12:06 DaemonFC; While it EXTERMINATES us.
12:07 DaemonFC; With joblessness and COVID bullshit.
12:07 DaemonFC; The latest Biden Bullshit is the Inflation Reduction Act.
12:07 DaemonFC; No law passed by Congress to "control the economy" has ever done what it was called.
12:08 DaemonFC; They passed one in 1985 called the "Deficit Reduction Act" and they passed one in 1997 called the "Balanced Budget Act" and in 2011 called the "Budget Control Act".
12:08 DaemonFC; Now we have the "Inflation Control Act" which will work exactly as advertised, like those and the "Affordable Care Act".
12:08 DaemonFC; :)
12:09 DaemonFC; Five minutes after Biden signs it, inflation will stop immediately. He'll have it entirely under control just like every other government that passed a law regarding the inflation.
12:10 DaemonFC; It has nothing to do with Inflation. The Democrats realize that they've fucked up so bad they'll be voted out and this is their last chance to have a say in the economy or budget for the next 4-8 years, so they'll do what they want to now while they still can.
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12:11 DaemonFC; The way to get inflation under control is to cut the budget and raise interest rates.
12:11 schestowitz[TR2]; watch how debt soared in the trump years
12:11 schestowitz[TR2]; even before covid19
12:11 schestowitz[TR2]; they further cut taxes on the rich
12:11 schestowitz[TR2]; https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt#historical
=> ↺ https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt#historical
12:11 TR Bot; United States Government Debt - June 2022 Data - 1942-2021 Historical - July Forecast
12:12 DaemonFC; Yeah, Milton Friedman had a video, it's on YouTube. It's from the 1970s, but it could basically be made today.
12:12 schestowitz[TR2]; oct. 2015: 18 trillion
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12:12 DaemonFC; The government "lowers taxes" but you still have less money because the spending causes inflation.
12:12 DaemonFC; Inflation is a tax.
12:13 schestowitz[TR2]; march 2020: 27 trillion
12:13 schestowitz[TR2]; 11 trillion increase in 2 years of covid
12:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz The government could repeal taxes and the IRS entirely and just parasite off the real economy by inflation alone, you know.
12:13 DaemonFC; They could.
12:13 schestowitz[TR2]; doubled in 9 years
12:13 schestowitz[TR2]; from 16 to 32
12:13 DaemonFC; They are a parasite.
12:13 DaemonFC; They produce nothing.
12:14 schestowitz[TR2]; it was under 10 before wall street went under
12:14 schestowitz[TR2]; 6 before iran invasion
12:14 schestowitz[TR2]; so it's getting more than 5 times higher in less than two decades
12:14 DaemonFC; The government is a parasite that steals your savings and spends it seeing what happens if you give a bird cocaine.
12:14 schestowitz[TR2]; kind og like bill gates weath :-)
12:14 schestowitz[TR2]; he's giving away his wealth
12:14 schestowitz[TR2]; to his foundaion :-)
12:14 DaemonFC; Tom Coburn included that in his "government waste report".
12:14 schestowitz[TR2]; for jeff and lolita
12:15 DaemonFC; The feds spend like several million dollars studying the effects of cocaine on quail and seeing if it would cause the birds to have "riskier sex".
12:15 DaemonFC; "I'll call you tomorrow, babe!" -bird on coke
12:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz Can you tell me why the government spends money on studying birds on cocaine for risky sex practices?
12:18 DaemonFC; I mean, I'm sure the birds put a lot of thought into family planning when they're not on cocaine.
12:18 DaemonFC; You know, checking inflation and real estate trends before starting a nest.
12:18 DaemonFC; Condoms to avoid the bird syphilis.
12:18 DaemonFC; And here comes cocaine to screw that up.
12:20 DaemonFC; schestowitz They spend at least $100 billion dollars on bullshit like this every year.
12:20 DaemonFC; Money for their districts.
12:20 DaemonFC; Birds on coke and bridges to nowhere.
12:20 DaemonFC; You do that for 10 years, it's the entire military budget for a year.
12:21 DaemonFC; Before they come at us wanting more tax money, they should get rid of the pork spending, but everyone who goes to Congress to do something about it ends up taking it or getting voted out for not bringing home as much money as the last guy.
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12:26 *schestowitz[TR2] back
12:27 TR News; "The Taliban seized Kabul as U.S. and NATO forces were withdrawing from Afghanistan" https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/amnesty-taliban-crackdown-on-rights-is-suffocating-women-1.6003793 Woke activist be like, "BUT DOES TALIBAN HAVE A CODE OF CONDUCT??"
=> ↺ https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/amnesty-taliban-crackdown-on-rights-is-suffocating-women-1.6003793
12:27 TR Bot; Taliban crackdown on rights is 'suffocating' women: Amnesty | CTV News
12:27 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: that's small money
12:27 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe a billion
12:27 schestowitz[TR2]; your regime now bails out billionaires again
12:27 schestowitz[TR2]; "CHIPS"
12:27 schestowitz[TR2]; another dumb acronym
12:28 DaemonFC; Intel.
12:28 schestowitz[TR2]; and haveing previously handed out like $40,000,000,000.00 to Microsoft
12:28 DaemonFC; So bad they want a bailout.
12:28 schestowitz[TR2]; in "defence" money
12:28 schestowitz[TR2]; they just pwrint money
12:28 schestowitz[TR2]; for thee rich
12:28 schestowitz[TR2]; and they act like the econopmy is OK
12:28 schestowitz[TR2]; because the billionaire are holding up the country
12:28 schestowitz[TR2]; and wall street
12:28 schestowitz[TR2]; using a gamble
12:28 schestowitz[TR2]; with other people's sdsavings
12:29 schestowitz[TR2]; tied to fake shares
12:29 schestowitz[TR2]; like NYSE:FB
12:29 schestowitz[TR2]; and then you have DEBT
12:29 schestowitz[TR2]; money just printed
12:29 schestowitz[TR2]; with no basis, no collateral
12:29 schestowitz[TR2]; look at the above-mentined debt chart
12:29 schestowitz[TR2]; opress 25 YEAR
12:29 schestowitz[TR2]; and see the cliff
12:29 schestowitz[TR2]; the US debt is a cliff now
12:29 schestowitz[TR2]; spinning out of control a year after coup attempt that nearly succeeded
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12:30 TR News; "And youre dropped into society so damaged that you dont know how to fit in" https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/wrongfully-convicted-black-men-exoneration-can-just-traumatizing-priso-rcna39550 | Source: NBC
12:30 TR Bot; For wrongfully convicted Black men, exoneration can be just as traumatizing as prison
12:36 psydruid; how is the CHIPS act going to help the US?
12:36 psydruid; and what will these CHIPS be used for?
12:36 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: should I file a complaint with the police
12:36 schestowitz[TR2]; about the punch from the officer to the stranger?
12:36 schestowitz[TR2]; their complaint form asks for names
12:36 schestowitz[TR2]; mine and someone I don';t even know
12:36 schestowitz[TR2]; and don't have evidence
12:36 schestowitz[TR2]; or officer's number
12:36 DaemonFC; I don't know how they handle those there.
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12:37 DaemonFC; The Waukegan Police Department is a well known corrupt organization.
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12:37 schestowitz[TR2]; and what will these CHIPS be used for?
12:37 DaemonFC; I wouldn't bother reporting much of anything to them.
12:37 schestowitz[TR2]; it's bailout
12:37 schestowitz[TR2]; like hololens
12:37 schestowitz[TR2]; btw, the chief of hollolens
12:37 schestowitz[TR2]; did something very very bad
12:37 schestowitz[TR2]; but they don't tell us what exactly
12:37 schestowitz[TR2]; they belittle it and say he left
12:37 schestowitz[TR2]; like they did with gates in the board
12:37 schestowitz[TR2]; after he got caught up with esptein
12:38 schestowitz[TR2]; and his wife dumped him
12:38 DaemonFC; Waukegan Police Department has the record for the most false confessions beaten out of suspects in the entire state of Illinois.
12:38 DaemonFC; Which is impressive considering Chicago has over 30 residents for every 1 living here.
12:40 TR News; "In the United States, high speed Internet service providers are like drug dealers" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/27/comcast-tells-couple-theyll-need-to-pay-27119-to-get-home-internet-even-though-the-rest-of-their-block-is-wired-for-it/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)
12:40 TR Bot; Comcast tells couple theyll need to pay $27,119 to get Home Internet even though the rest of their block is wired for it. BaronHK's Rants
12:40 DaemonFC; schestowitz The cops here are just lying pieces of violent shit.
12:40 TR News; Digital prisons https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/itv-advertising-revenue-studios-first-half-1235186318/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter
12:40 TR Bot; itv-advertising-studios-first-half-report The Hollywood Reporter
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12:40 DaemonFC; And of course everyone still believes them over you.
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12:40 schestowitz[TR2]; yeah
12:40 schestowitz[TR2]; I reckon the man they pushed to the ground and punch
12:40 schestowitz[TR2]; was just some bystander
12:40 schestowitz[TR2]; he said nothing
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12:40 schestowitz[TR2]; they then asaulted him
12:41 schestowitz[TR2]; and after they assaulted him
12:41 schestowitz[TR2]; he cursed
12:41 schestowitz[TR2]; saying he'd have them he;ld accountable
12:41 schestowitz[TR2]; yeah,, good luck with that
12:41 DaemonFC; So he got it again.
12:41 schestowitz[TR2]; latere they will tell a judge he cursed at them, thus they beat him up
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12:41 schestowitz[TR2]; it's unclear to me how he was connected to any incident
12:42 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe slow day at work, so the thugs wanted some old bloke with belly and no hair to beat up
12:42 schestowitz[TR2]; and roughen up
12:42 schestowitz[TR2]; like 4 cops on him
12:42 schestowitz[TR2]; they did to him several minutes after a hoard of cops had arrived
12:42 schestowitz[TR2]; and he was just walking along calmly
12:43 schestowitz[TR2]; not running, not saying anything
12:43 schestowitz[TR2]; how could they know he was guilty of something?
12:43 DaemonFC; schestowitz Some black lady was going crazy at the Dunkin Donuts at the Midway Orange Line Station one day.
12:43 schestowitz[TR2]; I still don't know what happened and the police site is worse than useless
12:43 schestowitz[TR2]; it's more like PR/capoaganda
12:43 schestowitz[TR2]; *copa
12:43 DaemonFC; Then she turned around and accused me of filming her and starts shouting at me.
12:43 DaemonFC; Eventually, it drew the attention of a cop. She told him I was filming her in public.
12:43 schestowitz[TR2]; film on then
12:44 schestowitz[TR2]; if you don't want to get filmed, act politely
12:44 schestowitz[TR2]; if you make a scene, you will be filmed not just by the business owner's cctv
12:44 schestowitz[TR2]; and police
12:44 schestowitz[TR2]; but members of the public
12:44 DaemonFC; The cop asked me if that was true. I said, "No. But she seems to think it is. And even if I was, it's public. She got my attention by acting crazy with those people at the coffee store over there.".
12:44 schestowitz[TR2]; be a dick, become a clown online
12:44 DaemonFC; He's like, "So she isn't anyone famous or anything?".
12:45 DaemonFC; I said, "Not to my knowledge.".
12:45 DaemonFC; So he told me to have a nice day and asked her to move it along.
12:45 schestowitz[TR2]; good
12:45 schestowitz[TR2]; quick resolutioin
12:45 TR News; "One could question whether offering some collaborative marketing was really meant to address such deep-rooted anti-competitive behavior" https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-in-the-wall-street-journal-microsoft-and-cookies/ | Source: Next Cloud
=> ↺ https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-in-the-wall-street-journal-microsoft-and-cookies/
12:45 TR Bot; in the Wall Street Journal: Microsoft and cookies - Nextcloud
12:46 TR News; "The PC Hardware + Microsoft Windows 8 with UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) will monopolise amd64 hardware." http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/ms/uefi/ |
=> ↺ http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/ms/uefi/
12:46 TR Bot; PC UEFI & Microsoft Monopoly
12:46 *techuser_ is now known as techuser
12:46 DaemonFC; I don't know why she was going crazy on a Dunkin Donuts.
12:46 TR News; "In a lawsuit filed on Wednesday, the Federal Trade Commission sued to block Meta, formerly known as Facebook" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/ftc-sues-to-block-metas-bid-to-buy-virtual-reality-firm-1235187894/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter
12:46 TR Bot; FTC Sues to Block Metas Bid to Buy Virtual Reality Firm The Hollywood Reporter
12:46 schestowitz[TR2]; you don't know the context
12:46 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe they were rude to her
12:46 schestowitz[TR2]; so she feels unfairly treated
12:46 DaemonFC; I always had good service at that store. The only time they screwed something up, they said keep it, remade it, and gave me free donuts.
12:46 schestowitz[TR2]; and you filming her is a third thing in he chain
12:46 schestowitz[TR2]; of events
12:46 DaemonFC; THey were always giving me their leftovers at the end of the day.
12:47 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe coz you're white/irish
12:47 DaemonFC; That happens at the one up here on Washington too. They give me stuff I didn't order because they're closing and can't sell it the next day.
12:48 schestowitz[TR2]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cR1Mq6Po3pA
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cR1Mq6Po3pA
12:48 TR Bot; SPOILT GIRL SCREAMS AT HER GRANDPA OVER IPHONE APPOINTMENT - Invidious
12:49 DaemonFC; schestowitz That fender is bubbling again, a bit. So my mechanic said he's really sorry the repair isn't going to hold and rather than keep sanding away at it, he's just going to order a new fender for the driver side and paint it and call me in to install it next week.
12:49 DaemonFC; No charge.
12:50 DaemonFC; Paint/rust repair can get tricky sometimes.
12:50 schestowitz[TR2]; ^ your def. don't want to marry a girl like this
12:50 schestowitz[TR2]; *you
12:50 DaemonFC; Screaming at someone over a phone?
12:51 DaemonFC; No. I mean, there's important things in life like people dying or the cat is sick or something.
12:51 DaemonFC; A phone is just a damned phone.
12:51 schestowitz[TR2]; when he dies
12:51 schestowitz[TR2]; (maybe he's dead already)
12:51 schestowitz[TR2]; she won't cry at the funeral
12:51 schestowitz[TR2]; but she cried over a "f*cking" phone
12:52 DaemonFC; Yeah, something literally designed to break every three or four years.
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12:53 schestowitz[TR2]; wait, are we talking about Windows?
12:54 DaemonFC; Windows installations don't even tend to last that long.
12:54 schestowitz[TR2]; it gets worse over time
12:54 schestowitz[TR2]; updates brick things
12:54 schestowitz[TR2]; and all the malware
12:54 DaemonFC; Around Windows 8 I started noticing lots of people getting Windows Update jammed up so bad it was like, you couldn't do anything.
12:54 DaemonFC; Windows XP never had that happen.
12:55 DaemonFC; There's a lot of people who still use Windows XP even now and just find some way to make it keep working.
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12:55 DaemonFC; I understand there are Pale Moon forks and K-Meleon, so there are at least "browsers" that run on it.
12:55 schestowitz[TR2]; a shame
12:56 schestowitz[TR2]; they could move to antix
12:56 schestowitz[TR2]; and use latest firefox or something
12:56 DaemonFC; With patches, you could run SeaMonkey on Windows 9x up through about 2011.
12:56 DaemonFC; With KernelEx installed.
12:57 TR News; devuan https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/info-for-devuan-users-4175715110/
=> ↺ https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/info-for-devuan-users-4175715110/
12:57 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/info-for-devuan-users-4175715110/ )
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12:58 TR News; Were Fighting the War Against Social Control Media Wrong! https://odysee.com/@LinuxLounge:b/we're-fighting-the-war-against-social:f Source: LinuxLounge
=> ↺ https://odysee.com/@LinuxLounge:b/we're-fighting-the-war-against-social:f
12:58 TR Bot; We're Fighting the War Against Social Media Wrong!
12:58 DaemonFC; schestowitz There's just too many things going on in a "modern" Web browser.
12:58 schestowitz[TR2]; run firefox
12:58 schestowitz[TR2]; ore chome
12:59 DaemonFC; They have to run things in too many processes and threads thanks to a lot of poorly designed standards.
12:59 schestowitz[TR2]; check how many open files are on the system
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
12:59 schestowitz[TR2]; it's like 20,000
12:59 schestowitz[TR2]; sometimes more
12:59 DaemonFC; Yes, that's the only real problem XP has with handling them.
12:59 schestowitz[TR2]; I used to run firefox on a laptop with 323 mb or ram
12:59 schestowitz[TR2]; until around 2005
12:59 DaemonFC; Since Pale Moon runs in single process mode, it's still adaptable to run on Windows XP.
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13:00 TR News; Donald Trump pushes for U.S. dictatorship: "We have to go beyond the governor" (video) | Boing Boing https://boingboing.net/2022/07/27/donald-trump-pushes-for-u-s-dictatorship-we-have-to-go-beyond-the-governor-video.html Source: boingboing | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boingboing.net/2022/07/27/donald-trump-pushes-for-u-s-dictatorship-we-have-to-go-beyond-the-governor-video.html
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13:00 TR Bot; Donald Trump pushes for U.S. dictatorship: "We have to go beyond the governor" (video) | Boing Boing
13:01 TR News; itwire and shifting the blame https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/ransomware-attacks-enabled-by-%e2%80%98malicious-insider%e2%80%99-warns-gigamon.html see http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/
=> ↺ https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/ransomware-attacks-enabled-by-%e2%80%98malicious-insider%e2%80%99-warns-gigamon.html
=> http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/
13:01 TR Bot; - Ransomware attacks enabled by malicious insiders warns Gigamon
13:01 TR Bot; Microsoft-Centric Ransomware Task Force | Techrights
13:01 TR News; EU promoting bullshit https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/default/files/180703_lf_notebooks_eng_ohne_titel.pdf
=> ↺ https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/default/files/180703_lf_notebooks_eng_ohne_titel.pdf
13:02 DaemonFC; SeaMonkey still looks like Mozilla Suite, but technically it's much, much different.
13:02 DaemonFC; They ended up rebuilding it atop the Firefox "Quantum" crap, but not entirely.
13:03 DaemonFC; The "Servo" bits are mostly turned off.
13:03 schestowitz[TR2]; the WHAT?
13:03 schestowitz[TR2]; did you say server?
13:04 schestowitz[TR2]; that's racist
13:04 schestowitz[TR2]; servo mechaniscs
13:04 schestowitz[TR2]; mechanics is racist
13:05 schestowitz[TR2]; pin
13:05 schestowitz[TR2]; male
13:05 DaemonFC; Servo was named after Tom Servo, the robot from Mystery Science Theater 3000.
13:05 schestowitz[TR2]; and "female"
13:05 schestowitz[TR2]; racist
13:05 schestowitz[TR2]; AND sexist
13:05 schestowitz[TR2]; to imply a pin in "male"
13:05 schestowitz[TR2]; WHen I was a kid it was common to use those terms
13:06 TR News; The pelosis still loaded with MSFT stock though https://thehill.com/policy/finance/3577326-pelosis-husband-sells-off-up-to-5-million-worth-of-chipmaker-stock-ahead-of-semiconductor-bill-vote/
13:06 TR Bot; Pelosis husband sells off up to $5 million worth of chipmaker stock ahead of semiconductor bill vote | The Hill
13:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz After the Linux Foundation got Servo, the blog posts immediately stopped.
13:06 DaemonFC; The last one is from 2020.
13:06 DaemonFC; https://blog.servo.org/
13:06 TR Bot; Servo Blog
13:07 TR News; Pelosi: Microsoft shareholders. That's the fake "left" for you... investing in crime
13:07 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: why would Microsoft blog about Servo/
13:07 schestowitz[TR2]; ?
13:08 schestowitz[TR2]; The LF hires communication manager who had come from Microsoft
13:09 TR News; The criminals from Microsoft making excuses https://www.pcworld.com/article/820616/pc-market-deteriorated-in-june-microsoft-says.html while stealing bailout money... from US taxpayers: http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
=> ↺ https://www.pcworld.com/article/820616/pc-market-deteriorated-in-june-microsoft-says.html
=> http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
13:09 TR Bot; says PC market 'deteriorated' in June | PCWorld
13:09 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
13:10 TR News; Chairs on the deck of the Titanic Blue https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&u=https://www.muylinux.com/2022/07/27/matt-hicks-red-hat/
13:10 TR Bot; Matt Hicks apunta el nuevo rumbo de Red Hat
13:11 TR News; Microsofters and infiltrators attacking anything that can -- and should -- replace Microsoft https://www.financialexpress.com/industry/technology/cybersecurity-open-source-is-a-double-edged-sword/2608610/
13:11 TR Bot; Cybersecurity: Open source is a double-edged sword | The Financial Express
13:11 DaemonFC; https://www.ghacks.net/2022/05/05/fix-pale-moon-browser-not-passing-cloudflares-checking-your-browser-verification/
13:11 TR Bot; Fix Pale Moon browser not passing Cloudflare's "Checking Your Browser" verification - gHacks Tech News
13:11 TR News; UEFI is now considered a vector for "cybersecurity" threats https://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/documents/downloadPublic?documentIds=080166e5cde66f8b&appId=PPGMS
13:11 TR Bot; Documents download module
13:12 TR News; MGJ: this is about security... I mean, that's what the name says... https://www.welivesecurity.com/2018/09/27/lojax-first-uefi-rootkit-found-wild-courtesy-sednit-group/
13:12 TR Bot; First UEFI rootkit found in the wild, courtesy of the Sednit group | WeLiveSecurity
13:12 DaemonFC; "Cloudflare's parser may object to the Firefox part, as that version is old and no longer maintained by Mozilla."
13:12 DaemonFC; If your UA is "weird", CloudFlare may not let you view a Web page.
13:12 DaemonFC; Nice....Real nice.
13:14 TR News; Looking at the book of Jeffrey Epstein's enabler (child sex trafficking) trying to rebrand himself as saviour of the planet gemini://siiky.srht.site/books/bill_gates.how_to_avoid_a_climate_disaster.gmi
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13:15 TR News; Flexibility & Life gemini://siiky.srht.site/philosophy/flexibility-life.gmi
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13:17 TR News; UEFI Secure [sic] Boot and European Union standardisation https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-7-2013-000162_EN.html http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI
=> ↺ https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-7-2013-000162_EN.html
=> http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI
13:17 TR News; "The Commission will continue to monitor market developments so as to ensure that competition and a level playing field are preserved amongst all market players." https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-7-2013-000162-ASW_EN.html
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13:17 TR Bot; timed out after 10518 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-7-2013-000162_EN.html )
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13:17 TR Bot; UEFI - Techrights
13:17 TR News; USDOJ https://www.economist.com/united-states/2022/07/27/the-justice-department-is-moving-against-donald-trump
13:17 TR Bot; timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-7-2013-000162-ASW_EN.html )
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13:17 TR Bot; Justice Department is moving against Donald Trump | The Economist
13:18 TR News; "There will be feedback sessions the following weeks during the community workgroup and community meeting" https://news.opensuse.org/2022/07/27/microos-install-workshop-feedback-sessions-planned/ |
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13:18 TR Bot; MicroOS Install Workshop, Feedback Sessions Planned - openSUSE News
13:19 TR News; "Setting up a VPN on Linux used to involve the terminal, Stack Overflow and a computer science degree." https://www.unixmen.com/the-best-vpn-gui-for-linux/ | Source: Unix Men
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13:19 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.unixmen.com/the-best-vpn-gui-for-linux/ )
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13:19 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: buy a new computer
13:19 schestowitz[TR2]; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3NcXflFEZQ
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13:19 TR Bot; https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=U3NcXflFEZQ
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13:20 TR Bot; invidious.snopyta.org | Ivanka Trump to out-of-work Americans: "Find something new" - Invidious
13:20 schestowitz[TR2]; https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/14/politics/ivanka-trump-find-something-new-unemployment/index.html
13:20 TR Bot; New Ivanka Trump initiative tells out-of-work Americans to 'find something new' - CNNPolitics
13:21 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/28/irc-log-270722/ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//techrights.org/2022/07/28/irc-log-270722/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/28/irc-log-270722/
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13:21 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 | Techrights
13:22 TR News; The solution is to file more antitrust complaints, not simply accept Microsofts abuses which are disguised as "security"; but Microsoft bribes Canonical to play along and push Ubuntu as WSL, so whos going to file such complaints? http://techrights.org/2022/07/28/antitrust-dual-booting/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/07/28/antitrust-dual-booting/
13:22 TR Bot; Antitrust Action Against Microsoft is Well Overdue | Techrights
13:23 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167749
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13:23 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
13:23 TR News; 7.9-inch ultrawide HDMI display works with Raspberry Pi SBC Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167750
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13:23 TR Bot; 7.9-inch ultrawide HDMI display works with Raspberry Pi SBC | Tux Machines
13:23 TR News; Review of SunFounder TS7-Pro 7-inch touchscreen display for Raspberry Pi 4 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167751
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13:23 TR Bot; Review of SunFounder TS7-Pro 7-inch touchscreen display for Raspberry Pi 4 | Tux Machines
13:23 TR News; Its Time to Ditch 32-Bit Linux for 64-Bit Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167752
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13:24 TR Bot; It's Time to Ditch 32-Bit Linux for 64-Bit | Tux Machines
13:24 TR News; Top 10 32-Bit Linux Distributions in 2022 [Compared] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167753
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13:24 TR Bot; Top 10 32-Bit Linux Distributions in 2022 [Compared] | Tux Machines
13:28 TR News; "Both links have lots of technical details; the second contains a list of previously discovered UFEI rootkits. Also relevant are the NSAs capabilitiesnow a decade oldin this area." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/07/new-ufei-rootkit.html
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13:28 TR Bot; UFEI Rootkit - Schneier on Security
13:33 TR News; "Valve has released a new SteamOS Beta update for Steam Deck and it finally sorts out the Firefox situation" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/steam-deck-beta-gets-firefox-as-flatpak-mentions-qfuture-controller-hardware-revisionsq/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:33 TR Bot; Deck Beta gets Firefox as Flatpak, mentions "future controller hardware revisions" | GamingOnLinux
13:33 TR News; Hob's Barrow https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/the-excavation-of-hobs-barrow-has-some-real-fancy-pixel-art/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
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13:33 TR Bot; Excavation of Hob's Barrow has some real fancy pixel-art | GamingOnLinux
13:34 TR News; "Several applications/programs or service daemons ship with commands to check configuration files for syntax correctness" https://www.tecmint.com/check-configuration-files-linux/ | Source: TecMint
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13:34 TR Bot; 30 Ways to Validate Configuration Files or Scripts in Linux
13:34 TR News; "Valve has announced that the Steam Bash Bash event will be going live between September 19 and September 26." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/september-will-bring-the-melee-focused-steam-bash-bash-event/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:34 TR Bot; will bring the melee focused Steam Bash Bash event | GamingOnLinux
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13:50 DaemonFC; Matt GOOLAG is striking out big time.
13:50 DaemonFC; Lots of reporting now on how big a pile of crap UEFI is (Chinese malware) and how the entire thing is one giant trap to block GNU/Linux.
13:51 CrystalMath; China officially uses GNU/linux
13:52 CrystalMath; but, backdoors? who knows
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15:08 TR News; "Here's one missed from earlier in July, the colourful 3D platformer Hobo Cat Adventures gained Native Linux support." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/hobo-cat-adventures-features-dark-humour-and-souls-like-combat-now-on-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
15:08 TR Bot; Cat Adventures features dark humour and souls-like combat - now on Linux | GamingOnLinux
15:08 TR News; "Pokete is a game we introduced you too recently that's inspired by Pokmon but you play it in a terminal." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/terminal-based-game-inspired-by-pokemon-gets-a-big-upgrade-with-audio/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
15:09 TR Bot; game inspired by Pokmon gets a big upgrade with audio | GamingOnLinux
15:09 TR News; "Despite the name, VRChat is not a VR-only space and it's incredibly popular" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/vrchat-adds-easy-anti-cheat-community-not-happy-but-linux-and-steam-deck-work-fine/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
15:09 TR Bot; adds Easy Anti-Cheat, community not happy but Linux and Steam Deck work fine | GamingOnLinux
15:09 TR News; "Limit Theory was a once very promising looking space sim that was funded on Kickstarter." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/cancelled-space-sim-limit-theory-opens-up-the-source-code/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
=> ↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/cancelled-space-sim-limit-theory-opens-up-the-source-code/
15:09 TR Bot; space sim Limit Theory opens up the source code | GamingOnLinux
15:10 TR News; Proprietary, Microsoft Holes, and UEFI Flaws Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167754 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/Proprietary,_Microsoft_Holes,_and_UEFI_Flaws.shtml #news
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167754
=> ↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/Proprietary,_Microsoft_Holes,_and_UEFI_Flaws.shtml
15:10 TR Bot; Proprietary, Microsoft Holes, and UEFI Flaws | Tux Machines
15:10 TR Bot; Proprietary, Microsoft Holes, and UEFI Flaws
15:10 TR News; Ventoy Multiboot USB Creator Adds Support for Fedora CoreOS, More Than 940 ISOs Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167755
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15:11 TR News; SolidWAN https://linuxgizmos.com/solidrun-presents-solidwan-devices-with-ports-dedicated-ethernet-sfp-support/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
15:11 TR Bot; Ventoy Multiboot USB Creator Adds Support for Fedora CoreOS, More Than 940 ISOs | Tux Machines
15:11 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/solidrun-presents-solidwan-devices-with-ports-dedicated-ethernet-sfp-support/ )
15:15 TR News; Hulu https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/27/politicians-whining-about-censorship-are-all-just-trying-to-dictate-the-terms-of-debate/ | Source: Techdirt
15:15 TR Bot; Whining About Censorship Are All Just Trying To Dictate The Terms Of Debate | Techdirt
15:16 TR News; Broadband Caps https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/27/new-bill-would-ban-u-s-broadband-caps-sort-of/ | Source: Techdirt
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15:16 TR Bot; Bill Would Ban U.S. Broadband Caps. Sort Of. | Techdirt
15:16 TR News; If the dream is graft (and endless debt/money-printing), then the American Dream is no myth
15:17 TR News; "Dash is one of the least known names when you think about shell family. But Dash is not meant to replace your current shell and works under the hood." https://linuxhandbook.com/dash-shell/ | Source: Linux Handbook
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15:17 TR Bot; What is Dash Shell in Linux?
15:19 TR News; "In this tutorial, we are going to install the basic LAMP stack on Ubuntu 22.04 OS." https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Source: RoseHosting
=> ↺ https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-22-04/
15:19 TR Bot; to Install LAMP stack on Ubuntu 22.04 - RoseHosting
15:19 TR News; "Keeping the Docker containers up-to-date is one of the important job of a DevOps engineer." https://ostechnix.com/automatically-update-running-docker-containers/ | Source: OSTechNix
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15:19 TR Bot; Update Running Docker Containers With Watchtower - OSTechNix
15:20 TR News; "But we don't always interact with Linux systems with a graphical interface." https://opensource.com/article/22/7/manage-files-linux-command-line | Source: OpenSource.com
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15:20 TR Bot; I manage files from the Linux command line | Opensource.com
15:21 TR News; "This is the first part of beginner's video editing tutorial with OpenShot. OpenShot is a small, user friendly," https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/07/openshot-video-editing-part-1.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
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15:21 TR Bot; OpenShot Video Editing Part 1: Getting Started
15:21 TR News; Games: Steam Deck, Pokete, and Code Release Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167756
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15:21 TR Bot; Games: Steam Deck, Pokete, and Code Release | Tux Machines
15:23 TR News; "But this all begs the question, why do we need search? Is search good for the community?" gemini://nomadpengu.in/thoughts/digitalmemory/
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15:25 TR News; SpellBinding: CEGUORH Wordo: OFFEN gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/new.gmi
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15:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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15:49 TR News; "Hacking, cracking, piracy group Blizzless Project has released special versions of Starcraft: Remastered, Warcraft III: Reforged" https://torrentfreak.com/pirates-liberate-games-from-battle-net-to-send-message-to-activision-blizzard-220727/ | Source: Torrent Freak
15:49 TR Bot; Liberate Games From Battle.net To Send Message To Activision Blizzard * TorrentFreak
15:49 TR News; "VPN detection service GeoComply helps rightsholders and streaming platforms ban so-called 'geo pirates'" https://torrentfreak.com/geocomply-expands-vpn-piracy-detection-by-blocking-residential-ip-addresses-220727/ | Source: Torrent Freak
15:49 TR Bot; Expands VPN 'Piracy' Detection By Blocking Residential IP-Addresses * TorrentFreak
15:51 TR News; "Retrograde clocks are unique, in that they eschew the normal fully-circular movement for the hands." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/28/diy-retrograde-clock-is-3d-printed/ | Source: Hackaday
=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/28/diy-retrograde-clock-is-3d-printed/
15:51 TR Bot; Retrograde Clock Is 3D Printed | Hackaday
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15:52 TR News; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The 2001 Hispanic Engineer of the Year Award https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/07/the-2001-hispanic-engineer-of-the-year-award.html Source: irvingwb | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/07/the-2001-hispanic-engineer-of-the-year-award.html
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15:52 TR Bot; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The 2001 Hispanic Engineer of the Year Award
15:52 MinceR; 28 105941 < schestowitz[TR2]> MinceR thinks it's stil KDE 4.0
15:52 MinceR; i used KDE 4.3 and it was total crap
15:52 MinceR; and then they announced 5.x will depend on systemd
15:52 MinceR; fuck KDE.
15:53 MinceR; note that 4.3 was the "we finally fixed everything" version
15:54 MinceR; see also >> https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/954/660/350.jpg
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15:57 TR News; The Plausibly Deniable DataBase (PDDB): Its Real Now! https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6449 Source: bunniestudios | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6449
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=> ↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6449
15:57 TR Bot; The Plausibly Deniable DataBase (PDDB): Its Real Now! bunnie's blog
15:58 TR News; Proprietary https://www.maketecheasier.com/new-chromeos-productivity-features/
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15:58 TR Bot; New ChromeOS Productivity Features Help Chromebook Compete - Make Tech Easier
16:00 TR News; Canonical embraces DRM, outsources development to Microsoft criminals and their proprietary software. Is this what Ubuntu stands for? https://www.phoronix.com/news/Steam-Snap-Fixes-Enhancements
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16:00 TR Bot; Continues Working To Improve Its Steam Snap - Phoronix
16:03 TR News; CRT https://hackaday.com/2022/07/27/tiny-arcade-uses-tiny-crt/ | Source: Hackaday
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16:03 TR Bot; Arcade Uses Tiny CRT | Hackaday
16:03 TR News; More surveillance https://digit.site36.net/2022/07/27/following-airplanes-and-drones-frontex-wants-helicopters-for-border-surveillance/ | Source: Site36
16:03 TR Bot; Following airplanes and drones: Frontex wants helicopters for border surveillance Security Architectures in the EU
16:04 TR News; Patents https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-democrats-drug-pricing-plan-goes-nowhere-near-as-far-as-it-should/ | Source: TruthOut
16:04 TR Bot; Sanders: Democrats' Drug Pricing Plan "Goes Nowhere Near as Far as It Should"
16:05 TR News; "at least 10 Russian government agencies have removed data from open sources" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/28/russia-s-open-data-regression | Source: Meduza
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16:05 TR Bot; NO TITLE
16:05 schestowitz[TR2]; XRevan86: ^
16:12 TR News; "Our country's lowest-paid, most vulnerable workers have endured too much already to be sacrificed in pursuit of severe rate hikes" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/27/latest-rate-hike-progressive-critics-say-fed-making-big-mistake | Source: Common Dreams
16:12 TR Bot; With Latest Rate Hike, Progressive Critics Say Fed 'Making a Big Mistake'
16:13 TR News; Warren Buffett https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/27/racism-pure-and-simple-buffett-lender-redlined-philly-area-homebuyers-says-doj | Source: Common Dreams
16:13 TR Bot; 'RacismPure and Simple': Buffett Lender Redlined Philly-Area Homebuyers, Says DOJ
16:13 TR News; Fed Rate Hikes https://truthout.org/video/fed-rate-hikes-are-body-blow-to-workers-reeling-from-pandemic/ | Source: TruthOut
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16:14 TR Bot; Fed Rate Hikes Are Body Blow to Workers Reeling From Pandemic
16:20 TR News; Interest Rate Hikes https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/27/ellen-brown-interest-rate-hikes-will-not-save-us-from-inflation/ | Source: Scheerpost
=> ↺ https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/27/ellen-brown-interest-rate-hikes-will-not-save-us-from-inflation/
16:20 TR Bot; Brown: Interest Rate Hikes Will Not Save Us From Inflation scheerpost.com
16:21 TR News; "issue 19 of Hello World magazine" https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/young-peoples-projects-for-a-sustainable-future/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
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16:21 TR Bot; Young peoples projects for a sustainable future - Raspberry Pi
16:21 TR News; "being connected to a community of fellow computing educators is really important" https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/what-we-learnt-from-the-csta-2022-annual-conference/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
=> ↺ https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/what-we-learnt-from-the-csta-2022-annual-conference/
16:21 TR Bot; What we learnt from the CSTA 2022 Annual Conference - Raspberry Pi
16:22 TR News; Assange https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/28/the-us-is-close-to-getting-its-hands-on-julian-assange-an-interview-with-john-pilger/ | Source: Counter Punch
16:22 TR Bot; U.S. Is "Close To Getting Its Hands On Julian Assange:" an Interview With John Pilger - CounterPunch.org
16:22 psydroid2; I didn't start using KDE 4 until KDE 4.4
16:22 psydroid2; and now I don't use it anymore because it's crap
16:23 TR News; "This is an important statement in any society, but especially for our democracy." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/28/remember-when-it-wasnt-normal-to-punch-flight-attendants/ | Source: Counter Punch
=> ↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/28/remember-when-it-wasnt-normal-to-punch-flight-attendants/
16:23 TR Bot; When it Wasnt Normal to Punch Flight Attendants? - CounterPunch.org
16:23 schestowitz[TR2]; did you use 3.5?
16:23 psydroid2; yes
16:24 MinceR; 3.5 was great, except for being rather monolithic
16:24 MinceR; and kwin being somewhat janky
16:25 TR News; Assange https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/28/humanizing-julian-assange/ | Source: Counter Punch
=> ↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/28/humanizing-julian-assange/
16:25 TR Bot; Julian Assange - CounterPunch.org
16:25 psydroid2; what they did with KDE 5 is making something that finally worked reasonably well worse
16:25 psydroid2; I guess they were jealous of the GNOMEs
16:25 MinceR; and they capitulated to gnome and redhat/ibm
16:26 schestowitz[TR2]; on dbus?
16:26 MinceR; that too
16:26 MinceR; also on systemd
16:26 schestowitz[TR2]; now their goal is wayland?
16:26 schestowitz[TR2]; what for?
16:26 schestowitz[TR2]; god knows..
16:26 MinceR; maybe they hope they can get paid off in exchange for stopping
16:28 TR News; Microsoft Pelosi https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/27/pelosi_planned_taiwan_visit_triggers_threats | Source: Democracy Now
=> ↺ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/27/pelosi_planned_taiwan_visit_triggers_threats
16:28 TR Bot; A Pelosi Visit to Taiwan Could Inflame Tensions Between U.S. & China, with Little Benefit to Taiwanese | Democracy Now!
16:29 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22071217
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16:29 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/xiyotjihw5a91.jpg created on 2022-07-12 08:29:37.552709
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16:29 TR News; Hulu https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/27/hulu-blocking-democrats-ads-is-no-more-censorship-than-social-media-removing-harassment/ | Source: Techdirt
16:29 TR Bot; Blocking Democrats Ads Is No More Censorship Than Social Media Removing Harassment | Techdirt
16:31 TR News; Mass starvation https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/28/how-the-treasury-department-could-prevent-mass-starvation-with-no-cost-to-the-taxpayers/ | Source: Counter Punch
16:31 TR Bot; the Treasury Department Could Prevent Mass Starvation with No Cost to the Taxpayers - CounterPunch.org
16:32 TR News; Finance Capitalism https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/27/michael-hudson-the-destiny-of-civilization-finance-capitalism-industrial-capitalism-or-socialism/ | Source: Counter Punch
16:32 TR Bot; Hudson - The Destiny of Civilization: Finance Capitalism, Industrial Capitalism or Socialism - CounterPunch.org
16:33 TR News; "The widespread adoption of the CAN bus (and OBD-II) in automobiles was largely a way of standardizing the maintenance of increasingly complicated engines and their needs to meet modern emissions standards." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/27/probing-can-bus-for-ev-battery-info/ | Source: Hackaday
=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/27/probing-can-bus-for-ev-battery-info/
16:33 TR Bot; CAN Bus For EV Battery Info | Hackaday
16:34 TR News; GCHQ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/27/two-gchq-employees-suggest-the-solution-to-csam-distribution-is-more-client-side-scanning/ | meanwhile the ROYAL family and Bill Gates (briber of BillBC) work with Jeffrey Epstein and are Free MEN!!
16:34 TR Bot; GCHQ Employees Suggest The Solution To CSAM Distribution Is More Client-Side Scanning | Techdirt
16:35 TR News; Also, GCHQ watches kids naked https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optic_Nerve_(GCHQ)
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16:35 TR Bot; Optic Nerve (GCHQ) - Wikipedia
16:35 TR News; "Like other computer systems, early Unix printed on paper, using a typewriter-style printing device." https://opensource.com/article/22/7/process-text-linux-pr | Source: OpenSource.com
=> ↺ https://opensource.com/article/22/7/process-text-linux-pr
16:35 TR Bot; this nifty Unix tool to process text on Linux | Opensource.com
16:36 TR News; "In this guide, we will see a brief introduction to Dockerfile and how to use Dockerfile to automate the process of building custom docker images." https://ostechnix.com/a-brief-introduction-to-dockerfile/ | Source: OSTechNix
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16:36 TR Bot; To Build Custom Docker Image Using Dockerfile - OSTechNix
16:36 TR News; Orbn the vampire: "The world owes us a debt, and we will make sure to get it from them." https://telex.hu/english/2022/07/27/orbans-speech-in-transylvania-a-video-summary | Source: Telex (Hungary)
=> ↺ https://telex.hu/english/2022/07/27/orbans-speech-in-transylvania-a-video-summary
16:37 TR Bot; Telex: Orbn's speech in Transylvania a video summary
16:37 TR News; "an important step toward creating a safer and less exploitative internet for children" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/27/critical-online-privacy-protections-children-advance-senate-floor-vote | Source: Common Dreams
16:37 TR Bot; 'Critical' Online Privacy Protections for Children Advance to Senate Floor Vote
16:40 TR News; Richard Wolff https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/27/hiking_interest_rates_wont_stop_inflation | Source: Democracy Now
=> ↺ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/27/hiking_interest_rates_wont_stop_inflation
16:40 TR Bot; Richard Wolff: Fed Rate Hikes Are Body Blow to Workers Reeling from Pandemic, Growing Inequality | Democracy Now!
16:40 TR News; Global Debt Crisis https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/27/jayati_ghosh_global_debt_crisis_looming | Source: Democracy Now
=> ↺ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/27/jayati_ghosh_global_debt_crisis_looming
16:40 TR Bot; Economist Jayati Ghosh: Global Debt Crisis Is Perfect Storm of Unrest, Economic Disaster, Starvation | Democracy Now!
16:42 TR News; More inflation https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/26/inflation-not-excuse-withhold-support-needed-tax-reforms-and-investments | Source: Common Dreams
16:42 TR Bot; Opinion | Inflation Is Not an Excuse to Withhold Support for Needed Tax Reforms and Investments | Josh Bivens
16:42 TR News; "Republicans believe their laser focus on inflation in the midterms will override voter anger over the attempted coup" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/27/corporate-narrative-inflation-bogus | Source: Common Dreams
=> ↺ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/27/corporate-narrative-inflation-bogus
16:42 TR Bot; Opinion | The Corporate Narrative on Inflation Is Bogus | Chuck Idelson
16:43 TR News; US Oligarchs Devour Economy< https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/27/myths-and-reality-us-oligarchs-devour-economy | Source: Common Dreams http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
=> ↺ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/27/myths-and-reality-us-oligarchs-devour-economy
=> http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
16:44 TR Bot; Opinion | Myths and Reality as US Oligarchs Devour Economy | Bruce T. Boccardy
16:44 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
16:44 TR News; Schumer for GAFAM https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/27/schumer-pushed-stop-defending-greedy-monopolies-and-hold-votes-big-tech-bills | Source: Common Dreams
16:44 TR Bot; Schumer Pushed to Stop Defending 'Greedy Monopolies' and Hold Votes on Big Tech Bills
16:45 TR News; "Laptop computers may be ubiquitous today, but there was a time when they were the exclusive preserve of rich businesspeople." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/27/hackaday-prize-2022-repairing-a-vintage-laptop-with-modern-components/ | Source: Hackaday
16:45 TR Bot; Prize 2022: Repairing A Vintage Laptop With Modern Components | Hackaday
16:45 TR News; T-Mobile https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/27/t-mobile-strikes-500-million-settlement-for-continued-sloppy-data-practices/ | Source: Techdirt
16:45 TR Bot; Strikes $500 Million Settlement For Continued Sloppy Data Practices | Techdirt
16:48 TR News; "Even having a steady job and savings are irrelevant for someone if they are gypsy: when it comes to looking for a place to rent" https://telex.hu/english/2022/07/28/i-left-the-last-two-apartments-in-tears | Source: Telex (Hungary)
=> ↺ https://telex.hu/english/2022/07/28/i-left-the-last-two-apartments-in-tears
16:48 TR Bot; Telex: I left the last two apartments in tears
16:48 TR News; Assange was not the only one https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/27/us-lawmakers-want-bar-using-espionage-act-target-journalists | Source: Common Dreams
16:48 TR Bot; US Lawmakers Want to Bar Using Espionage Act to Target Journalists
16:49 TR News; Orange/cheeto nazis and Orbn https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/27/cpac-welcoming-orban-dallas-summit-days-after-pure-nazi-speech | Source: Common Dreams
16:49 TR Bot; CPAC Welcoming Orbn at Dallas Summit Days After 'Pure Nazi' Speech
16:49 schestowitz[TR2]; MinceR: get popcorn with cheetos powder
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16:50 TR News; Patents https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/27/gop-working-hand-hand-big-pharma-kill-drug-price-reform-behind-closed-doors | Source: Common Dreams
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16:51 TR Bot; GOP 'Working Hand in Hand With Big Pharma' to Kill Drug Price Reform Behind Closed Doors
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16:51 TR News; Surveillance https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/27/university-of-chicago-researchers-think-theyve-built-a-better-pre-crime-mousetrap/ | Source: Techdirt
16:51 TR Bot; Of Chicago Researchers Think Theyve Built A Better Pre-Crime Mousetrap | Techdirt
16:51 TR News; Trademarks https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/27/girl-scouts-settle-trademark-suit-with-scouts-bsa/ | Source: Techdirt
=> ↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/27/girl-scouts-settle-trademark-suit-with-scouts-bsa/
16:51 TR Bot; Scouts Settle Trademark Suit With Scouts BSA | Techdirt
16:55 TR News; Graft https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/27/progressives-slam-senate-passage-76-billion-corporate-giveaway | Source: Common Dreams http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
=> ↺ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/27/progressives-slam-senate-passage-76-billion-corporate-giveaway
=> http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
16:55 TR Bot; Progressives Slam Senate Passage of $76 Billion 'Corporate Giveaway'
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16:57 TR News; "Sometimes you need to display a number nice and large, making it easily readable at a good distance." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/27/you-can-build-a-giant-7-segment-display-of-your-very-own/ | Source: Hackaday
=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/27/you-can-build-a-giant-7-segment-display-of-your-very-own/
16:57 TR Bot; Can Build A Giant 7-Segment Display Of Your Very Own | Hackaday
16:57 TR News; "Back in the early days of the home computer revolution, data was commonly saved on tape." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/27/simple-universal-modem-helps-save-and-load-data-from-tape/ | Source: Hackaday
=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/27/simple-universal-modem-helps-save-and-load-data-from-tape/
16:57 TR Bot; Universal Modem Helps Save And Load Data From Tape | Hackaday
16:57 TR News; #HowTo Install Spotify Player on Linux System Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167757
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16:57 TR Bot; How to Install Spotify Player on Linux System | Tux Machines
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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17:06 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167758 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/Programming_Leftovers.shtml #news
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17:06 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
17:06 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers
17:07 psydroid2; https://www.drewry.co.uk/supply-chain-advisors/supply-chain-expertise/world-container-index-assessed-by-drewry
17:07 TR Bot; Drewry - Service Expertise - World Container Index - 28 Jul
17:07 TR News; Links 28/07/2022: Ventoy Expansions | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/28/ventoy-expansion/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/28/ventoy-expansion/
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17:07 TR Bot; Links 28/07/2022: Ventoy Expansions | Techrights
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17:07 TR News; "Submitted a LibOCon paper really looking forward to meeting up with people in person." https://meeksfamily.uk/~michael/blog
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17:08 TR Bot; Stuff Michael Meeks is doing
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17:08 TR News; SmartOS 20220728 https://www.tritondatacenter.com/smartos
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17:08 TR Bot; SmartOS | Joyent
17:08 TR News; KDE neon 20220728 is out also https://neon.kde.org/
17:08 TR Bot; KDE neon
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17:12 TR News; Dual-Core RISC-V Linux at Your Fingertips: Hands-On with the StarFive VisionFive V1 8GB SBC Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167759 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/Dual-Core_RISC-V_Linux_at_Your_Fingertips:_Hands-On_with_the_StarFive_VisionFive_V1_8GB_SBC.shtml #news
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17:12 TR Bot; Dual-Core RISC-V Linux at Your Fingertips: Hands-On with the StarFive VisionFive V1 8GB SBC | Tux Machines
17:12 TR Bot; Dual-Core RISC-V Linux at Your Fingertips: Hands-On with the StarFive VisionFive V1 8GB SBC
17:31 TR News; Who Still Gets Vaccinated for COVID-19 in England? Kids Under 12, the New 'Captive Market', Almost 2/3 of New Clients https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/28/potential-market-covid19/
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17:32 TR Bot; Blog Archive Who Still Gets Vaccinated for COVID-19 in England? Kids Under 12, the New Captive Market, Almost 2/3 of New Clients
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18:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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18:31 TR News; Red Hat Satellite 6.11.1 has been released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167760
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18:31 TR Bot; Red Hat Satellite 6.11.1 has been released | Tux Machines
18:31 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167761
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18:31 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
18:38 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22071460
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18:38 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/hgvbg69mdya91.png created on 2022-07-14 19:35:10.111638
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18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
19:04 britney; matey, what irc client do you run?
19:06 phanes; watch him be like 'suckless ii'
19:10 matey; whats irc
19:11 techuser; Internet Relay Chat, the protocol you use
19:11 matey; nooooo
19:11 matey; it cant be so
19:12 matey; international regulatory consortium
19:12 matey; some wannabe iso / ansi / etc
19:12 schestowitz[TR2]; i recall correctly
19:12 matey; that too
19:13 matey; orbans russian counterpart (orc)
19:14 britney; im asking cuz hexchat is hosted on github lol
19:14 matey; everything is on github :(
19:14 britney; yeah
19:14 XRevan86; schestowitz: "government agencies" -> Secrecy is the new black.
19:14 britney; everything is on github so that must leave you with no software
19:14 matey; it would if i was 100% guthub free
19:15 matey; and thats the point
19:15 phanes; ii is actually incredibly flexible if you like building your own ui
19:15 matey; so i reduce github to the extreme point im able
19:15 britney; even lagrange is on github (gemini client, SDL)
19:15 matey; you know gnu has more than a dozen packages on microsoft github?
19:15 matey; the gnu project
19:16 britney; people don't care enough to move it to something else
19:16 britney; like gitlab
19:16 britney; im surprised more projects aren't using gitea
19:16 matey; https://techrights.org/2020/04/06/check-phase/
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19:16 TR Bot; GitHub is Moving the Free Software Movement Into Check | Techrights
19:16 matey; people don't care enough to move it to something else <- that is my other point
19:16 matey; devs who are apathetic about github dont care about your freedom
19:17 matey; i dont judge everyone equally
19:17 matey; the gnu project should know better
19:17 matey; canadian paralegals who just started considering this idea, i dont hold to the same standard
19:17 matey; of course i still avoid github to as extreme a degree as i reasonably can
19:17 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/28/five-people-killed-following-russian-strike-on-kropyvnytskyi-news "Five people killed following Russian strike on Kropyvnytsky"
19:17 TR Bot; .
19:17 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/28/russian-blogger-charged-with-justifying-terrorism-for-social-media-repost-sentenced-to-6-5-years-of-jail-time-news "Russian blogger charged with justifying terrorism for social media repost sentenced to 6.5 years of jail time"
19:17 TR Bot; .
19:18 britney; hexchat even uses github for website hosting
19:18 techuser; I live in Kropyvnytsky
19:18 matey; heres a fun fact i just learned
19:18 britney; https://hexchat.github.io/
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19:18 TR Bot; Home HexChat
19:18 matey; gnu less is based on github <- this part i knew
19:18 matey; hexchat even uses github for website hosting <- same for gnu less
19:18 matey; sadly
19:18 britney; I use hexchat because I really like the software
19:18 matey; but, what i just learned was
19:18 matey; because of pledge, and the general usefulness of less
19:18 matey; openbsd less is a fork!
19:18 matey; they host it themselves
19:18 britney; I could use irssi or weechat but i want a gui
19:19 matey; now THATS what should happen to microsoft gnu
19:19 matey; irssi is github
19:19 matey; openbsd less is a fork, so their less isnt github :)
19:19 britney; lmao!
19:19 matey; so thats great
19:19 XRevan86; techuser: Ye do?
19:19 britney; even irssi is github lmao
19:19 matey; which is also github!
19:19 matey; but i have my own one-liner to replace it
19:19 techuser; I do, did hear the explosions
19:20 britney; matey, weechat looks safe from github
19:20 matey; its a crappy one-liner but it works for everything i need which to do
19:20 techuser; yet
19:20 phanes; britney, i use gitea for all my shitcode and propaganda: https://source.siloroup.org
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19:20 TR Bot; not resolve host: source.siloroup.org; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://source.siloroup.org )
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19:20 phanes; woops
19:20 phanes; britney, i use gitea for all my shitcode and propaganda: https://source.silogroup.org
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19:20 TR Bot; SILO GROUP SCM
19:20 matey; /me bets weechat pulls in kde or gnome or at least gtk
19:20 britney; matey, its a console app
19:20 matey; probably not then :)
19:20 phanes; isnt weechat purely ncurses-based?
19:21 matey; /me has never tried weechat
19:21 britney; weechat is ncurses based i think
19:21 matey; cool
19:21 britney; let me guess, ncurses is hosted on github
19:21 matey; i dont know
19:22 britney; lol
19:22 phanes; official i think is on that other thing that gcc uses
19:22 matey; https://weechat.org/
19:22 TR Bot; WeeChat, the extensible chat client
19:22 matey; https://weechat.org/dev/
19:22 TR Bot; WeeChat :: development :: roadmap
19:23 matey; https://github.com/weechat
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19:23 TR Bot; GitHub
19:23 britney; lmao github
19:23 XRevan86; techuser: , .
19:24 matey; https://github.com/weechat/weechat Issues 447Pull requests 61
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19:24 TR Bot; - weechat/weechat: The extensible chat client.
19:24 matey; this is what im talking about
19:24 britney; lol even https://github.com/KDE/konversation
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19:24 matey; btw i dont consider it a mirror if there are pull requests
19:24 TR Bot; - KDE/konversation: User-friendly and fully-featured IRC client
19:24 matey; i allow kde to have mirrors, if there are no pull requests and they dont tell people to use github
19:25 matey; but a lot of "mirrors" have active/acknowledged/non-discouraged pull requests
19:25 XRevan86; matey: GitHub doesn't let merge requests be disabled though.
19:25 matey; i dont consider those mirrors
19:25 matey; matey: GitHub doesn't let merge requests be disabled though. <- it was implicit, but i just explained how i account for that
19:26 matey; active / -> acknowledged <- / non-discouraged <- pull requests
19:26 matey; some projects say outright
19:26 matey; please do not send pull requests and they ignore or close them
19:26 matey; thats good enough for me
19:27 matey; then they tell people the official dev channel is the mailing list or savannah or whatever
19:27 matey; thats fine
19:27 matey; if its really a mirror, i dont care about that
19:27 matey; i dont think its a great idea to mirror-- but i dont consider it the big problem
19:27 MinceR; (cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/bUuNUwH
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19:27 TR Bot; Cats, cats, and cat memes - rimgo
19:27 matey; and when i list github-based stuff, i dont count true mirrors
19:27 matey; anybody can mirror a freely licensed project
19:28 britney; matey, I can't find an irc client that isn't on github
19:28 matey; when development starts to move there, and its not a fork, thats a thing
19:28 matey; matey, I can't find an irc client that isn't on github <- this is a good example of how bad it still is with github
19:28 matey; fwiw i like hexchat
19:28 matey; irssi is nice
19:28 britney; hexchat even uses github.io web hosting
19:29 britney; https://hexchat.github.io/index.html
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19:29 TR Bot; Home HexChat
19:29 matey; britney: if this issue becomes important to you, i encourage you to develop your own criteria over time
19:29 matey; if i think your criteria sucks, ill explain why :)
19:29 matey; if its reasonable but just different, ill state that too
19:29 britney; i don't think having things on github is a deal breaking for me
19:29 britney; deal breaker*
19:29 matey; there you go
19:29 matey; so use hexchat and be happy
19:29 britney; :)
19:30 britney; actually what bothers me more is that it doesn't get updated very often
19:30 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1552689843607687169
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19:30 TR Bot; Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Meanwhile on Russia's Kremlin-controlled state TV, host Evgeny Popovwho is also a State Duma memberis criticizing the DOJ and the Biden administration for their alleged intent to put "our Trump," as the Russians call him, behind bars."|nitter
19:31 MinceR; our trump, our ford, our stalin, our hitler
19:31 MinceR; our orban
19:33 XRevan86; MinceR: Maybe he's worthy to be called Ourbarn, because he's a Racist Barn.
19:37 matey; actually what bothers me more is that it doesn't get updated very often <- what would you like from an update?
19:37 matey; software that still works well isnt stale unless you dont like the "style" or something
19:38 matey; or its really lacking in some way
19:38 matey; id rather have stability and reliability than a feature-filled circus
19:38 matey; with animals shitting all over the ground
19:38 MinceR; well, if he's a barn, then he surely won't mind someone parking a few tractors inside him.
19:38 matey; systemd for example
19:38 britney; matey, im concerned there might be unpatched vulnerablities
19:39 matey; its fresh-- steaming, even
19:39 matey; im concerned there might be unpatched vulnerablities <- if there are vulnerabilities... and theyre unpatched
19:39 britney; true
19:39 matey; but a lot of that will be in libraries
19:39 britney; perhaps i should be less paranoid
19:39 XRevan86; MinceR: Four of them.
19:39 matey; and fixed outside the project, and all they have to do is compile the latest
19:39 matey; which doesnt look like much, but it works
19:39 britney; irssi had a period of a few years between updates
19:40 matey; now, if theres a vulnerability found in hexchat for example
19:40 matey; then it would be a shame if no one patched it
19:40 matey; but the constant explosion of new applications and features for its own sake just means more vulnerability mouths to fead
19:40 matey; feed
19:41 matey; while the number of developers doesnt necessarily go up
19:41 matey; so "fresh" may mean more vulnerabilities than stale, sometimes
19:41 matey; certainly mozilla is fresh as fuck
19:41 matey; but its a web browser, which means it competes with the os for maintenence costs
19:41 matey; its fucking huge
19:42 matey; it competes <- maybe not among the same devs, but certainly in terms of scale
19:42 britney; firefox is basically an operating system
19:42 matey; thats what im saying yes
19:43 matey; tor browser at least is not github based
19:43 matey; both ff and tb signed the anti-rms letter as projects
19:43 matey; i used ff begrudgingly
19:43 matey; but imo better tb than tb AND ff
19:43 matey; and better tb than ff
19:44 matey; as tb at least theoretically cares about privacy. ff is DEFINITELY making things worse, not better
19:44 matey; tb may be full of shit too. ff DEFINITELY is
19:44 matey; both participated in censorship, but i think tb uncensors more than it censors
19:44 matey; if someone can find a better browser, im interested
19:44 matey; they wont, they all suck
19:45 matey; moving away from the web as much as possible is a good idea
19:45 matey; but its easier to move away from github :P
19:45 matey; tb helps by so many websites blocking it
19:45 matey; these are generally websites i want nothing to do with
19:45 britney; tor browser at least is not github based
19:45 britney; nice
19:45 matey; funnily enough this includes the ncurses website, with suck-uri firewall
19:45 matey; blocks tor browser
19:46 matey; dum dum dum dum dum
19:46 britney; i don't like thunderbird, its bloated af
19:46 britney; i use evolution
19:46 britney; and claws-mail looks fucked in dark mode
19:46 matey; i had more patience / love for gui stuff before kde and gnome sucked so much
19:47 matey; since gnome 3 ive loved the idea of removing gnome entirely
19:47 matey; since kde 4 ive stopped loving kde at all
19:47 matey; 3.5 was great
19:47 matey; trinity is great (oops github)
19:47 britney; i love gnome 42's new screenshot utility
19:47 matey; mate is great (oops github)
19:47 matey; mtpaint takes screenshots (fucking github)
19:47 matey; i dont know why there needs to be a new screenshot program every 2 years
19:48 matey; i dont
19:48 britney; mate is great
19:48 matey; i dont mind people making new software
19:48 matey; but the churn of projects constantly using new shit is kind of annoying
19:48 britney; the new screenshot utility in gnome 42 lets you take the entire screen or just a portion of the screen, it also does video capture
19:48 matey; like can i just use the same command twice, without learning a new screenshot command every 2 y years?
19:48 matey; i can
19:49 matey; if people dont fuck with the tool i use
19:49 britney; and hitting alt + screenshot lets you make a snapshot of the selected app
19:49 matey; it also does video capture <- thats impressive
19:49 matey; but imo a video capture tool can / should be separate
19:50 MinceR; mate is a gnome2
19:50 MinceR; fork
19:50 MinceR; and so it sucks
19:50 matey; the new screenshot utility in gnome 42 lets you take the entire screen or just a portion of the screen <- id rather crop with the tool of my choice than worry if my screenshot program does a good job
19:50 britney; i like gnome 3.42, with dash to panel
19:50 matey; mate is a gnome2 <- yes and no and so it sucks <- perhaps
19:51 matey; its gnome, without the douchebags
19:51 britney; gnome boxes is a nice front end for qemu
19:51 matey; i actually liked gnome 2
19:51 matey; i havent used it in many many years
19:51 MinceR; gnome2 was already "designed" on the principle that users are idiots and they're afraid of text and options
19:51 MinceR; they adopted the crApple HIG
19:51 britney; if i ever switched to BSD, i'd probably use mate or xfce
19:51 matey; gnome2 was already "designed" on the principle <- gnome was my "if you want windows, heres the best option" choice
19:51 matey; and gnome2 was well behaved enough
19:52 matey; bloated, yes
19:52 matey; but removable.
19:52 matey; now for people who wanted more efficiency, lxde was the next step forward
19:52 matey; but
19:52 matey; lxde really was a bitch to configure imo
19:52 matey; some cfg tools helped
19:52 matey; but werent great
19:52 MinceR; if it being removable is the greatest thing going for it, then it's already pretty horrible
19:53 matey; fwiw my DEFAULT desktop for most people was lxde
19:53 matey; if it being removable is the greatest thing going for it <- compared to today, removable is a big deal
19:53 MinceR; i wonder if lxpanel finally manages multihead correctly
19:53 matey; probably not
19:53 matey; i wouldnt bother with lxde today
19:53 matey; its like yugoslavia
19:54 matey; then for people who really just wanted the least waste of resources and the snappiest responses on ANY MACHINE
19:54 matey; icewm of course
19:54 matey; gnome 3 happened, debian shit on mate, lxde went off to "find itself" and got lost
19:55 matey; and i gave up on all of that for icewm
19:55 matey; but i actually LIKED the options that existed before.
19:55 matey; i LIKED lxde and gnome 2 as options
19:55 britney; i like icewm and fvwm95
19:55 matey; theyre just not real options anymore
19:55 matey; and icewm i still like, if there was a non-github fork hooray
19:55 matey; but there isnt. but its a lot easier to fork than gnome 2 :)
19:56 britney; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FVWM95
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19:56 TR Bot; FVWM95 - Wikipedia
19:56 britney; fvwm95 looks like windows 95
19:56 matey; i dont like the one with fucking sideway title bars
19:56 matey; only because theyre stuck that way
19:58 matey; fvwm is fvwm95 actually maintained?
19:58 matey; is fvwm95 actually maintained? fvwm itself is github
19:59 matey; i think fvwm is a real fork, but the website was last updated 21 years ago
19:59 britney; https://github.com/mintsuki/fvwm95
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19:59 TR Bot; - mintsuki/fvwm95: fvwm95, ported to work on modern distributions such as Debian, Ubuntu, and Arch.
19:59 matey; thats that then
19:59 matey; i mean if there were no non-github options
19:59 matey; id use icewm
20:00 britney; icewm is nice
20:00 matey; as it happens, there are ALMOST no non-github options
20:00 matey; which sucks
20:00 matey; like its more than 90%
20:00 matey; the window managers on github
20:00 matey; and the fsf says they care about freedom
20:00 matey; bullshit
20:02 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xaENa3XdOAY
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20:02 TR Bot; Genesis - Throwing It All Away (Official Video) - Invidious
20:03 matey; Video unavailable. The uploader has not made this video available in your country
20:03 matey; /me tries from another country
20:03 matey; 14.1% of 16.47MiB
20:04 matey; suck a bag of dicks, riaa
20:05 matey; brb
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20:07 psydroid2; https://liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/85359.html
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20:07 TR Bot; liam_on_linux | Everyone seems to forget why GNOME and GNOME 3 and Unity happened
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20:08 schestowitz[TR2]; yeah
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20:15 TR News; Twitter is Dying, Based on Its Own Numbers (Which It Can Barely Fake Anymore, for Fear of Getting Caught by Elon Musk and His Lawyers) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/28/gradual-death-of-twitter/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/28/gradual-death-of-twitter/
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20:15 TR Bot; Twitter is Dying, Based on Its Own Numbers (Which It Can Barely Fake Anymore, for Fear of Getting Caught by Elon Musk and His Lawyers) | Techrights
20:18 TR News; [PATCH] i2c: designware: Introduce cooldown timer to AMDPSP driver - Jan Dabros https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220725080240.106619-1-jsd@semihalf.com/ Source: semihalf | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220725080240.106619-1-jsd@semihalf.com/
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20:18 TR Bot; [PATCH] i2c: designware: Introduce cooldown timer to AMDPSP driver - Jan Dabros
20:20 TR News; Microsoft boosters, as in this case, trying to shift the subject/focus http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167733#comment-34447
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20:20 TR Bot; For-Profit FUD Attacks on 'Linux' Wrapped Up as Advice or News | Tux Machines
20:21 XRevan86; CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-July-26-07-27
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20:21 TR Bot; Dispatch for July 26 Telegraph
20:21 XRevan86; CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-July-27-07-28
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20:21 TR Bot; Dispatch for July 27 Telegraph
20:21 TR News; STOP Using Desktop Icons On Windows, Mac & Linux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KvgrGkapCHg | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/KvgrGkapCHg usability mistake. I never did this. Windows hide the icons.
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20:22 TR Bot; STOP Using Desktop Icons On Windows, Mac & Linux - Invidious
20:22 schestowitz[TR2]; XRevan86: you realise you commit an act of treason? ^_^
20:24 XRevan86; Definitions vary.
20:26 TR News; The story behind Googles in-house desktop Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167513#comment-34448
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20:26 TR Bot; Google's Weird Commitment to 'Linux' | Tux Machines
20:26 schestowitz[TR2]; your definition is illegal :-)
20:27 TR News; A potato can run antiX...Lightweight Linux ep. 3 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eqh6GI17aZ4 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/eqh6GI17aZ4 matey might like it...
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20:27 TR Bot; A potato can run antiX...Lightweight Linux ep. 3 - Invidious
20:27 XRevan86; https://reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-russia-saboteurs/
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20:27 TR Bot; How Russia spread a secret web of agents across Ukraine
20:27 MinceR; what's CIT?
20:27 XRevan86; MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_Intelligence_Team
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20:27 TR Bot; Conflict Intelligence Team - Wikipedia
20:28 TR News; Microsoft proprietary spyware? No thanks ("+ BONUS VSCode") https://medium.com/@tgey/a-headless-computer-with-ssh-and-linux-bonus-845a5bb6a81f
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20:28 TR Bot; Headless computer with SSH and Linux + Bonus | by Thomas Gey | Jul, 2022 | Medium
20:28 MinceR; ic
20:28 XRevan86; The dispatches are from https://nitter.net/citeam_en
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20:28 TR Bot; CIT (en) (@CITeam_en)|nitter
20:28 schestowitz[TR2]; Cyst
20:28 schestowitz[TR2]; CISA
20:29 schestowitz[TR2]; SISTA
20:29 MinceR; sistah cyst
20:29 schestowitz[TR2]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CISA
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20:29 TR Bot; CISA - Wikipedia
20:29 schestowitz[TR2]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cista
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20:29 TR Bot; Cista - Wikipedia
20:30 schestowitz[TR2]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Intelligence_Sharing_and_Protection_Act
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20:30 TR Bot; Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act - Wikipedia
20:30 schestowitz[TR2]; "The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA H.R. 3523 (112th Congress), H.R. 624 (113th Congress), H.R. 234 (114th Congress)) was a proposed law in the United States which would allow for the sharing of Internet traffic information between the U.S. government and technology and manufacturing companies"
20:30 schestowitz[TR2]; remember?
20:30 schestowitz[TR2]; we changed techrightr banner at the top for a while
20:30 schestowitz[TR2]; to protest that
20:30 schestowitz[TR2]; http://techrights.org/wp-content/themes/ocadia/images/
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20:30 TR Bot; Index of /wp-content/themes/ocadia/images
20:31 schestowitz[TR2]; http://techrights.org/wp-content/themes/ocadia/images/header-cispa.jpg
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20:33 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/07/28/7360745/
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20:33 TR Bot; Russian forces shelled Bakhmut: 3 dead and 3 wounded | Ukrainska Pravda
20:33 TR News; "Michael Larabel of the website Phoronix" = AMD METOO!! wccftech = Michael Larabel METOO! https://wccftech.com/amd-adds-last-minute-rdna-3-gpu-driver-support-core-for-linux-5-20/
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20:33 TR Bot; AMD Adds Last-Minute RDNA 3 GPU Driver Support Core For Linux 5.20
20:34 MinceR; PoundMeToo?
20:34 TR News; Battle of the retro Unix desktops: NsCDE pitted against CDE Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167762 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/Battle_of_the_retro_Unix_desktops:_NsCDE_pitted_against_CDE.shtml #news
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20:34 TR Bot; Battle of the retro Unix desktops: NsCDE pitted against CDE | Tux Machines
20:34 TR Bot; Battle of the retro Unix desktops: NsCDE pitted against CDE
20:34 matey; :>
20:34 schestowitz[TR2]; MinceR: : only with consent
20:35 MinceR; :>
20:35 TR News; How to swim in lava (if you're into that sort of thing) https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-run-apple-safari-on-linux/
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20:35 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-run-apple-safari-on-linux/ )
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20:38 TR News; [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 00/23] Initial Meteorlake Support https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2022-July/302395.html Source: intel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2022-July/302395.html
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20:38 TR Bot; [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 00/23] Initial Meteorlake Support
20:39 TR News; Intel: we won't undo our hardware defects, we won't remove bugs from our code, but we hired some people to remove the F word from comments in Linux while we deliver chips to bombs.
20:40 TR News; "For Linux; if there is a company behind the hard- and software like Valve with the Steam Deck or Jolla with Sailfish OS, it could work. But it is build as gaming console - damn this is a good handheld! - or for a smartphone, not as work horse." gemini://seydaneen.nahtgards.de/leuchtturm/dwemerartefakte/blog/2022-07-28.gemini
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20:40 TR News; SpellBinding solver gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-07-28.cheat.gmi
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20:41 TR News; [v1,1/7] drm/vpu: Introduce a new DRM driver for Intel VPU https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/dri-devel/patch/20220728131709.1087188-2-jacek.lawrynowicz@linux.intel.com/
20:41 TR Bot; [v1,1/7] drm/vpu: Introduce a new DRM driver for Intel VPU - Patchwork
20:42 TR News; wccftech does another Larabel "metoo" https://wccftech.com/intel-sapphire-rapids-xeon-cpus-feature-increased-power-saving-on-linux-thanks-to-new-firmware/
20:42 TR Bot; Intel Sapphire Rapids Xeon CPUs To Feature Increased Power Saving On Linux Thanks To New Firmware
20:43 TR News; Security updates for Thursday [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/902795/ Source: LWN | Kernel | Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/902795/
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20:43 TR Bot; updates for Thursday [LWN.net]
20:43 TR News; "The Samba Team has released security updates to address vulnerabilities in multiple versions of Samba. An attacker could exploit one of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/07/27/samba-releases-security-updates
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20:43 TR Bot; Samba Releases Security Updates | CISA
20:45 TR News; Canonical, a division of Microsoft Corp. https://ubuntu.com//blog/lets-get-confidential-canonical-ubuntu-confidential-vms-are-now-generally-available-on-microsoft-azure
20:45 TR Bot; get confidential! Canonical Ubuntu Confidential VMs are now generally available on Microsoft Azure | Ubuntu
20:46 TR News;
20:46 TR News; Microsoft spying means "confidentiality", according to the sellouts at Canonical, who are boosting those who actively attack GNU/Linux instead of filing antitrust complaints.
20:47 TR News; "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could cause a denial-of-service condition." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-209-01
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20:47 TR Bot; Rockwell Products Impacted by Chromium Type Confusion | CISA
20:48 TR News; Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.5 RC 8 https://godotengine.org/article/release-candidate-godot-3-5-rc-8 Source: godotengine | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//godotengine.org/article/release-candidate-godot-3-5-rc-8
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20:48 TR Bot; Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.5 RC 8
20:49 TR News; "After the conference ended I had a few spare days to do touristy stuff which was also fun. On the last day when I was packing my stuff I noticed that there was a film crew just outside the conference hotel clearly shooting something." https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/07/that-time-when-i-accidentally-social.html
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20:49 TR Bot; Nibble Stew: That time when I accidentally social engineered myself to a film set
20:50 TR News; Microsoft decimated to nothing in Web servers; down sharply on all counts https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/07/28/july-2022-web-server-survey.html
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20:50 TR Bot; July 2022 Web Server Survey | Netcraft News
20:52 TR News; The openwashing hive known as OSI is now more closely connected to LF via TODO Group; these are proprietary people https://blog.opensource.org/what-is-an-open-source-program-office-and-why-you-should-have-one/
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20:52 TR Bot; What is an Open Source Program Office and why you should have one - Voices of Open Source
20:53 TR News; "Debugging Lisp in Deep Space, 0 Dependency Websites with OpenBSD & AsciiDoc, Deleting old snapshots on FreeBSD, Full multiprocess support in lldb-server, Basic fix between pf tables and macros, and more" https://www.bsdnow.tv/465
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20:53 TR Bot; BSD Now 465: Deep Space Debugging
20:53 *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
20:54 TR News; Microsoft's friends at CISA trying to recycle FUD from last year instead of cautioning about Windows back doors and actively-exploited zero-days https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/07/28/cisa-releases-log4shell-related-mar-0
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20:54 TR Bot; CISA Releases Log4Shell-Related MAR | CISA
20:55 TR News; Sean Michael Kerner used to do journalism. Now he writes ads. https://venturebeat.com/2022/07/28/featurebyte-launched-by-datarobot-vets-to-advance-ai-feature-engineering/
20:55 TR Bot; launched by Datarobot vets to advance AI feature engineering | VentureBeat
20:55 TR News; "We're determined to deliver a stable release of Godot 4.0 as soon as possible. To achieve this, we need to shift the focus from implementing new and exciting features towards stabilizing the existing functionality and fixing bugs." https://godotengine.org/article/godot-4-0-development-enters-feature-freeze
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20:55 TR Bot; Godot Engine - Godot 4.0 development enters feature freeze ahead of the first beta
20:57 TR News; The problem seems to be Microsoft Azure, which is failing and has layoffs. Avoid Azure. https://ddumont.wordpress.com/2022/07/28/how-i-investigated-connection-hogs-on-kubernetes/
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20:57 TR Bot; How I investigated connection hogs on Kubernetes | Dominique Dumont's Blog
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
20:59 TR News; Google Cloud Introduces Optimized Rocky Linux Images for Customers Moving Off CentOS https://www.infoq.com/news/2022/07/google-cloud-rocky-linux/ Source: infoq | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.infoq.com/news/2022/07/google-cloud-rocky-linux/
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20:59 TR Bot; Google Cloud Introduces Optimized Rocky Linux Images for Customers Moving Off CentOS
20:59 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22072051
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20:59 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://p.janouch.name/a/dd395d12.png created on 2022-07-20 19:22:44.860071
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21:00 TR News; If you are gullible enough to install these bugs inside your home, office etc. your family/colleauges would be wise to ostracise you and treat you like as infectious leper https://www.addictivetips.com/hardware/can-alexa-call-911/
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21:00 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/hardware/can-alexa-call-911/ )
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21:00 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights
21:01 TR News; "Gradio is an open-source Python library that is used to build machine learning and data science demos and web applications." https://medevel.com/gradio/
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21:01 TR Bot; Gradio: Creates Machine learning Web Apps in Python
21:02 TR News; "In the last edition, I was talking about adding an appropriate dataset to the Comparator Activity. This blog majorly consists of its implementation and the new changes that we now have in the comparator." https://thegcomprisivy.wordpress.com/2022/07/28/gcomrpis-progress-blog/
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21:02 TR Bot; GCompris: Progress Blog The Gcompris Ivy
21:03 TR News; "I am going to be attending Akademy 2022 in person! This is my first time going to Akademy in-person, so it is quite exciting! I will be doing a talk with Bhushan on the state of Plasma Mobile." https://espi.dev/posts/2022/07/going-to-akademy/
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21:03 TR Bot; Going to Akademy! | espidev
21:03 TR News; "Bootstrapped using GtkPopovers to implement popups from LibreOffice's main menubars for GTK4." http://caolanm.blogspot.com/2022/07/gtk4-toolbar-popups-via-gtkpopovers.html
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21:03 TR Bot; Caoln McNamara: GTK4: Toolbar popups via GtkPopovers
21:05 TR News; People are quick to forget brands. So few care to realise how many "CLOWN" companies quietly vanished (defunct) over the past decade. AWS took a long time to become profitable. Gulag loses BILLIONS in clown, Microsoft has LAYOFFS in Azure.
21:06 TR News; 3 Cloud-Native Database Tools From CNCF - Container Journal https://containerjournal.com/features/3-cloud-native-database-tools-from-cncf/ Source: containerjournal | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//containerjournal.com/features/3-cloud-native-database-tools-from-cncf/
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21:06 TR Bot; 3 Cloud-Native Database Tools From CNCF - Container Journal
21:07 TR News; At least Red Hat said sysadmins, not some "clown" something... or "OPS" https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/sysadminis-know-about-software-development
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21:07 TR Bot; 5 things sysadmins should know about software development | Enable Sysadmin
21:08 TR News; "Red Hat Product Security has been developing RapiDAST, a tool that can be used for security testing of products and services. It is also helpful for developers or quality engineers (QEs) to test the security of products during the software development life cycle (SDLC)." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/automated-dynamic-application-security-testing-enhancing-development-security-rapidast
21:08 TR Bot; Automated dynamic application security testing with RapiDAST and cross-team collaboration
21:09 TR News; Hacksters FPGAdventures: Experimenting with Microchips PolarFire SoC Icicle Kit Linux Code Samples - Hackster.io https://www.hackster.io/news/hackster-s-fpgadventures-experimenting-with-microchip-s-polarfire-soc-icicle-kit-linux-code-samples-647ecd981dde Source: hackster
21:09 TR Bot; FPGAdventures: Experimenting with Microchip's PolarFire SoC Icicle Kit Linux Code Samples - Hackster.io
21:10 TR News; This is proprietary and junk. Sean Michael Kerner must be getting paid to write specifically about this... promotional "article" https://venturebeat.com/2022/07/28/document-workflow-vendor-airslate-acquires-dochub-to-grow-automation/
21:10 TR Bot; workflow vendor AirSlate acquires DocHub to grow automation | VentureBeat
21:11 TR News; Are there any REAL journalism jobs left in the domain in tech? I doubt it. The ones I stumbled upon make part of the job the issuance of obligatory fake reviews (ads, promotions) or puff pieces... or both.
21:12 TR News; Android Shared Storage Qt Wrapper - KDAB https://www.kdab.com/android-shared-storage-qt-wrapper/ Source: kdab | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.kdab.com/android-shared-storage-qt-wrapper/
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21:12 TR Bot; Shared Storage Qt Wrapper - KDAB
21:12 TR News; EasyOCR: A Free Open-source OCR That Supports 80+ Languages https://medevel.com/easyocr/ Source: medevel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//medevel.com/easyocr/
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21:12 TR Bot; EasyOCR: A Free Open-source OCR That Supports 80+ Languages
21:13 TR News; Seems like promotional plug for PROPRIETARY BS. "Author Erva Nur Uresin; Edited by Hamza Musa" https://medevel.com/12-collab-enterprise-design/
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21:13 TR Bot; Best 12 Visual Collaboration Tools for Creative Teams
21:14 TR News; SUSE: we used to promote GNU/Linux and now we promote CLOWN/LUNIX instead. Government and corporate deep spying. https://www.suse.com/c/deploy-s3gw-with-rancher-and-longhorn-storage/
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21:14 TR Bot; your PV need S3 access? Weve got you covered | SUSE Communities
21:15 TR News; the goal: ssh to a remote computer https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/07/28/toy-remote-login-server/
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21:15 TR Bot; A toy remote login server
21:16 TR News; "Wireless power, no matter how inefficient it may be, sounds good and even looks good with the 5V remote wireless power supply LED pack we feature in this post. It also feels magical with the LEDs lighting up thanks to magnetic resonance coupling technology." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/28/5v-wireless-led-lights-up-thanks-to-magnetic-resonance-coupling-technology/
21:16 TR Bot; 5V wireless LED lights up thanks to magnetic resonance coupling technology - CNX Software
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21:20 TR News; "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could allow an attacker to escalate privilege and execute malicious programs, which could cause a denial-of-service condition, and allow information to be disclosed, tampered with, and/or destroyed." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-20-212-02
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21:20 TR Bot; Mitsubishi Electric Factory Automation Engineering Software (Update C) | CISA
21:20 TR News; Common GLib Programming Errors - Michael Catanzaros Blog https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2022/07/27/common-glib-programming-errors/ Source: GNOME | GNU | Linux | GTK | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2022/07/27/common-glib-programming-errors/
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21:20 TR Bot; Common GLib Programming Errors Michael Catanzaro's Blog
21:22 TR News; "IVM Development Group is pleased to announce the release of pg_ivm 1.2." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pg_ivm-12-released-2489/
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21:22 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: pg_ivm 1.2 released
21:23 TR News; How to frame surveillance as benign, courtesy of nazi ICBM. "Organizations across industries are turning to data and analytics to solve business challenges." https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/low-code-data-science-platforms "data science"
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21:23 TR Bot; Low-code data science platforms: 3 things IT leaders should know | The Enterprisers Project
21:24 TR News; Career-CLIMBING advice from pompous suits that buy from vendors instead of writing code https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/soft-skills-it-cio-advice
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21:24 TR Bot; Soft skills in IT: 10 CIOs share career advice | The Enterprisers Project
21:25 britney; schestowitz[TR2], lmao
21:25 TR News; "Kali is a Debian-based Linux distro designed specifically for penetration testing. While one can install the tools on any Debian distro to create an equally capable pentesting system, Kali comes with all of those tools built-in and is locked-down by default for security." https://www.hackster.io/news/stashing-a-kali-linux-pentesting-setup-inside-a-book-ee45cfad88b5
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21:25 TR Bot; a Kali Linux Pentesting Setup Inside a Book - Hackster.io
21:25 britney; schestowitz[TR2], http://techrights.org/wp-content/themes/ocadia/images/header-2014.jpg
=> http://techrights.org/wp-content/themes/ocadia/images/header-2014.jpg
21:26 britney; then in http://techrights.org/wp-content/themes/ocadia/images/header-2019.jpg Goblin has been erased
=> http://techrights.org/wp-content/themes/ocadia/images/header-2019.jpg
21:26 britney; kinda like how Stalin erased that dude from the photo
21:26 schestowitz[TR2]; yes
21:26 schestowitz[TR2]; because he had not been involved in years
21:26 schestowitz[TR2]; his own choice due to lack of time
21:26 britney; yeah kids
21:26 schestowitz[TR2]; 2
21:27 schestowitz[TR2]; I'm the godfather of one
21:27 britney; oh cool
21:27 schestowitz[TR2]; we recorded an episode about a year ago
21:27 schestowitz[TR2]; or 2 epidodes
21:28 schestowitz[TR2]; so technically techbytes ssurvived for over a decade already
21:28 TR News; Top 7 of the best Python IDEs available for Ubuntu 20.04 https://ninja-ide.org/best-python-ides-ubuntu-20-04/
=> ↺ https://ninja-ide.org/best-python-ides-ubuntu-20-04/
21:28 TR Bot; Top 7 of the best Python IDEs available for Ubuntu 20.04 - NINJA IDE
21:28 britney; there was an episode where he commented on my theory about neanderthals underground in a hive mind
21:28 britney; a bit before he banned me from the channel
21:29 TR News; This is a lie: "This Week in Rust is openly developed on GitHub." No, you need a PROPRIETARY account with Microsoft to participate. That's the OPPOSITE of "openly". https://this-week-in-rust.org/blog/2022/07/27/this-week-in-rust-453/
=> ↺ https://this-week-in-rust.org/blog/2022/07/27/this-week-in-rust-453/
21:29 TR Bot; This Week in Rust 453 This Week in Rust
21:29 schestowitz[TR2]; britney: yes, he mentioned it at oine point
21:29 schestowitz[TR2]; I never noticed you saying that
21:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-27.gmi
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-28.gmi
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:30 schestowitz[TR2]; were you banned?
21:30 britney; thats why i disappeared, i was banned
21:30 TR News; Notepad Next: The Best Substitute to Notepad++ for Linux Users Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167763 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/Notepad_Next:_The_Best_Substitute_to_Notepad++_for_Linux_Users.shtml #news
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167763
=> ↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/Notepad_Next:_The_Best_Substitute_to_Notepad++_for_Linux_Users.shtml
21:30 TR Bot; Notepad Next: The Best Substitute to Notepad++ for Linux Users | Tux Machines
21:30 TR Bot; Notepad Next: The Best Substitute to Notepad++ for Linux Users
21:30 schestowitz[TR2]; britney: I cannot remember why or who by
21:30 britney; goblin banned me
21:30 schestowitz[TR2]; that would make sense
21:30 schestowitz[TR2]; he's a cop
21:30 britney; lol
21:31 britney; hes a cop for real?
21:31 schestowitz[TR2]; was
21:31 schestowitz[TR2]; was
21:31 britney; ah
21:31 britney; that makes sense lol
21:31 *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@bcba5b8eb7taa.irc) has joined #techrights
21:31 schestowitz[TR2]; yesterday I saw a cop punching an old man in the gut
21:31 schestowitz[TR2]; 10 meters from where I sit
21:31 britney; cops are the worst
21:31 schestowitz[TR2]; stay away from them
21:31 schestowitz[TR2]; they don't think rationally
21:31 DaemonFC; I'll be back. The SASL Assholes at Libera Chat again.
21:32 *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114])
21:32 britney; lol DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13
21:32 *horseface (~horseface@apizi7c5awv5k.irc) has joined #techrights
21:32 britney; chatzilla
21:32 *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@wgyyzbf72qs7n.irc) has joined #techrights
21:32 britney; as if mozilla wasn't bloated enough
21:33 DaemonFC; ChatZilla doesn't really add any bloat.
21:33 DaemonFC; You load the browser, you have everything you need to run ChatZilla, which is tiny.
21:33 TR News; "React Studio is a free IDE and RAD tool for designers and developers that allows them in designing, prototyping, and building production-ready React apps." https://medevel.com/react-studio/
=> ↺ https://medevel.com/react-studio/
21:33 TR Bot; React Studio: A Real-time RAD Editor and Prototyping tool for React Developers and Designers
21:33 DaemonFC; It's like 100 kilobytes.
21:33 schestowitz[TR2]; iirc, thunderbird has or had irc suppot
21:33 schestowitz[TR2]; rudimentary
21:33 DaemonFC; It makes almost no difference at all once you have the browser running.
21:33 schestowitz[TR2]; among other protoicols
21:33 schestowitz[TR2]; I've note checked in ages though
21:34 britney; thunderbird just added a matrix chat client
21:34 TR News; Sean Michael Kerner would not write such cruft if it wasn't an ASSIGNMENT (marketing) from the employer :/ https://venturebeat.com/2022/07/28/nvidia-megatron-not-a-robot-in-disguise-but-a-large-language-model-thats-getting-faster/
21:34 TR Bot; Megatron: Not a robot in disguise, but a large language model that's getting faster | VentureBeat
21:35 DaemonFC; I addressed this the other day. Mozilla claimed they lopped off Mail, News, Composer, and ChatZilla, and the Web Inspector and Venkmen (JS Debugger) to solve "bloat", however those components were XPI modules that all together added less than 5 MB to the disk footprint of the browser in the mid 2000s when they stopped maintaining the Mozilla Suite.
21:35 schestowitz[TR2]; there is no matrix client
21:35 schestowitz[TR2]; there are matrix masters and slaves
21:35 schestowitz[TR2]; matrix.org
21:35 schestowitz[TR2]; is even worse than irc
21:35 schestowitz[TR2]; with irc you can at least maintain your own network
21:35 DaemonFC; As far as RAM consumption, the entire Mozilla engine and GUI toolkit was running, and so bringing up Mail/News, ChatZilla, and everything else, AT ONCE, used up about 2-3 MB of RAM, total.
21:35 DaemonFC; Which was tiny even in 2005.
21:35 britney; i like the element matrix client because it supports e2e encryption
21:36 schestowitz[TR2]; riot
21:36 DaemonFC; If you ran Firefox and Thunderbird at once, everything got loaded twice.
21:36 britney; yeah it used to be called riot
21:36 schestowitz[TR2]; until gulag stgopped them
21:36 schestowitz[TR2]; gulag:
21:36 schestowitz[TR2]; we bomb people
21:36 schestowitz[TR2]; also gulag:
21:36 DaemonFC; And you were talking about hundreds more MB, and then you needed to use an IRC client, which would add 40 MB or so of RAM consumption.
21:36 schestowitz[TR2]; don't call it riot
21:36 schestowitz[TR2]; it might offend people
21:36 DaemonFC; It was more efficient to use Mozilla Suite and just not open the parts you weren't using.
21:36 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe they should have rebranded as "Google Bombs"
21:36 schestowitz[TR2]; like "googlebomb"
21:37 DaemonFC; A comparison with just Navigator open compared with Firefox showed no difference at all in RAM usage.
21:37 britney; i don't use thunderbird because its so bloated
21:37 schestowitz[TR2]; I need 2gb of ram available just to get it started
21:37 schestowitz[TR2]; since they introduced some BS behaviour around 5 years ago
21:37 DaemonFC; A comparison with Navigator and Mail/News vs. Firefox and SeaMonkey showed you were using about another GB of RAM just to read Mail and News.
21:38 DaemonFC; IErrr, Firefox and Thunderbird.
21:38 DaemonFC; I never liked Thunderbird.
21:38 DaemonFC; It was just dumb, separating the Suite and forcing people to run individual programs that loaded everything all over again.
21:38 britney; evolution only uses 63MB of ram
21:38 TR News; "OSMnx is a Python package that lets you download geospatial data from OpenStreetMap and model, project, visualize, and analyze real-world street networks and any other geospatial geometries." https://medevel.com/osmnx/
=> ↺ https://medevel.com/osmnx/
21:38 TR Bot; OSMnx: Analyze and Visualize Street Networks with Python and OpenStreetMap
21:39 DaemonFC; Evolution is in several different pieces.
21:39 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: like me using firefox and librewoolf in tandom sometimes
21:39 schestowitz[TR2]; twice the same libs
21:39 schestowitz[TR2]; with different process names
21:39 DaemonFC; Plus, some of it is shared with GNOME and GTK so it disguises itself, like Internet Explorer did.
21:39 britney; DaemonFC, fair enough
21:39 britney; but i do run gnome so it makes sense
21:39 schestowitz[TR2]; i use gnome btw
21:40 britney; schestowitz[TR2], sweet
21:40 DaemonFC; Microsoft named their engine "Trident" for a reason. They have a history of using codenames that show that they don't intend to compete nicely in the marketplace, and are often racially offensive or misogynistic as well. They were going to "kill
21:40 DaemonFC; "Kill" the Navigator with the Trident.
21:40 DaemonFC; Not compete with it, "kill it".
21:41 DaemonFC; But with the XBOX, they named it after the nuclear bomb project that went after Japan. (Japanese video game companies in this case.)
21:41 DaemonFC; The "Manhattan Project".
21:42 DaemonFC; Hahaha, mass murder and war crimes! Suck it up, buttercup! -Microsoft....now with 1000% more Code of Conduct and less BIGBOOBIES.
21:42 schestowitz[TR2]; britney: joking, partly
21:42 schestowitz[TR2]; only one arm laptop runs gnome
21:42 britney; oh lol
21:43 britney; an arm laptop?
21:43 DaemonFC; The whole "toxic culture" at Microsoft, the worst of it anyway, was fanned on by Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer, Steven Sinofsky, and Alex St. John back then. People like that.
21:43 DaemonFC; Today they bite their tongue because they realize that it will be reported, but people still complain about it being exactly the same in there, behind the curtains.
21:44 TR News; "pupRadio streamed online radio and TV stations; however, it was discussed on the forum that most of the TV URLs didn't work. Philh (forum name) has contributed to pupRadio over the years, and has now taken out the "pupTelly" component, so it now only steams audio." https://bkhome.org/news/202207/streaming-video-removed-from-pupradio.html
=> ↺ https://bkhome.org/news/202207/streaming-video-removed-from-pupradio.html
21:44 TR Bot; Streaming video removed from pupRadio
21:44 schestowitz[TR2]; Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer, Steven Sinofsky
21:44 DaemonFC; They have a "filter" where inside it's as bad as ever, but publicly they project "tolerance" and accuse everyone else of hating transgender people and shit. The stuff that goes on inside of Microsoft.
21:44 schestowitz[TR2]; Epstein, thighthough, Epstein
21:44 schestowitz[TR2]; *thighthigh
21:44 schestowitz[TR2]; thigh^2
21:45 DaemonFC; schestowitz The woke left has already ruined GTA 6 and has retroactively censored GTA 5 as well.
21:45 schestowitz[TR2]; stfu and grab a thigh
21:45 schestowitz[TR2]; not a chiken part
21:45 DaemonFC; Rockstar absolutely skewered the far-right in GTA 5 while the bad guy that was just there be shockingly evil and morally repulsive can't make anti-trans jokes in the censored version.
21:46 DaemonFC; You were supposed to hate Trevor Philips.
21:46 DaemonFC; Not emulate him!
21:46 DaemonFC; They show him huffing gas cans and raping people, for crying out loud.
21:46 DaemonFC; He's shown to be incredibly unstable and dangerous.
21:47 DaemonFC; He's exactly the type of character you'd pin an anti-trans joke on.
21:47 schestowitz[TR2]; http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ballmer-crazy.mp4
=> http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ballmer-crazy.mp4
21:47 schestowitz[TR2]; no "metoo"
21:47 schestowitz[TR2]; he's rich, so it's OK
21:47 schestowitz[TR2]; he "owns" the team
21:48 TR News; "JJM (esmourguit in the forum) has sent me updates for the French langpack." https://bkhome.org/news/202207/french-langpack-update.html
=> ↺ https://bkhome.org/news/202207/french-langpack-update.html
21:48 TR Bot; French langpack update
21:48 DaemonFC; Part of Rockstar's lampooning of the far-right involves a couple of idiots who pretend to "patrol the border" who recruit Philips to go taser "Mexicans" who are actually United States citizens who have ID, and Philips bags them anyway and brings them back to be disappeared.
21:49 TR News; The Apache Software Foundation Announces Apache ShenYu; as a Top-Level Project Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167764 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/The_Apache_Software_Foundation_Announces_Apache_ShenYu_as_a_Top-Level_Project.shtml #news
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167764
=> ↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/The_Apache_Software_Foundation_Announces_Apache_ShenYu_as_a_Top-Level_Project.shtml
21:49 TR Bot; The Apache Software Foundation Announces Apache ShenYu; as a Top-Level Project | Tux Machines
21:49 TR Bot; The Apache Software Foundation Announces Apache ShenYu; as a Top-Level Project
21:49 DaemonFC; That's pointing out that there is a very unstable and dangerous "militia" element in the US that the government allows to roam around more or less unmolested. Rockstar was a decade ahead of those people showing up on January 6th.
21:49 DaemonFC; They nailed it!
21:50 TR News; "it has ultimately become our best friend" OUR??? Speak for yourself!!! https://www.addictivetips.com/hardware/can-alexa-call-911/
=> ↺ https://www.addictivetips.com/hardware/can-alexa-call-911/
21:50 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/hardware/can-alexa-call-911/ )
=> ↺ https://www.addictivetips.com/hardware/can-alexa-call-911/
21:50 DaemonFC; The Democrats are a corrupt bunch of retards who are using their last months in Congress to throw money around at rich assholes who don't give a fuck about you.
21:50 DaemonFC; With CHIPS and the alleged "Inflation Reduction Act", which is all the more reason why they will lose.
21:50 DaemonFC; And why the Republicans will be running the show here again soon.
21:51 DaemonFC; And why Trump might be back.
21:52 DaemonFC; schestowitz The police in Illinois responded to Robert Crimo III's house over and over and never took him seriously or arrested him.
21:52 TR News; "Through 2020, I worked on many Plasma Mobile applications such as KWeather, and also started poking around contributing to the shell. I also did some work for the desktop, including some work on adding fingerprint support to the users kcm." https://espi.dev/posts/2022/07/going-to-akademy/
=> ↺ https://espi.dev/posts/2022/07/going-to-akademy/
21:52 TR Bot; Going to Akademy! | espidev
21:52 DaemonFC; I got arrested for FAR less than the kind of shit they were IGNORING about him.
21:52 DaemonFC; You do know that right?
21:52 DaemonFC; And then they still gave him a FOID card and approved him to buy high powered rifles and extended magazines to take to Highland Park.
21:53 schestowitz[TR2]; With CHIPS and the alleged "Inflation Reduction Act", which is all the more reason why they will lose.
21:53 schestowitz[TR2]; save people who live in tents
21:53 schestowitz[TR2]; and in cars
21:53 schestowitz[TR2]; a lot cheaper
21:53 schestowitz[TR2]; to bail out
21:53 schestowitz[TR2]; no 6-7 and 7-figure salaries
21:54 schestowitz[TR2]; "i can haz money printer???"
21:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz "Inflation Reduction": The CBO scoring, which never pans out on revenue or savings, you know, says the government will save about $284 billion by allowing Medicare to negotiated on drug prices, which it should have been doing all along. But that's over 10 years.
21:54 DaemonFC; It will make almost no difference to the budget at all.
21:54 schestowitz[TR2]; optics
21:54 DaemonFC; And then they claim they'll get about $450 billion over 10 years from a nastier IRS. Nastier to whom? Not the rich.
21:55 schestowitz[TR2]; democrats will rape you in the arse while holding up a rainbow flag
21:55 schestowitz[TR2]; GOP will rape you in the arse while holding up a black pirate flag
21:55 schestowitz[TR2]; both work for the same masters
21:55 DaemonFC; Then they claim they'll flip over to the climate and pay people who don't need the money $7,500 of my tax money to buy an EV, or $4,000 for a used one where all the lights come on and they don't make the $15,000 battery 100 miles down the road after you buy it.
21:56 DaemonFC; So they're basically offering a $4,000 credit for buying a $500 piece of scrap metal for $11,000.
21:56 schestowitz[TR2]; yeah, it's an old scam
21:56 schestowitz[TR2]; they knew it would be gamed
21:56 schestowitz[TR2]; Looking at the book of Jeffrey Epstein's enabler (child sex trafficking) trying to rebrand himself as saviour of the planet gemini://siiky.srht.site/books/bill_gates.how_to_avoid_a_climate_disaster.gmi
=> ↺ gemini://siiky.srht.site/books/bill_gates.how_to_avoid_a_climate_disaster.gmi
21:56 schestowitz[TR2]; "rheen premium"
21:56 schestowitz[TR2]; *green
21:57 DaemonFC; Basically all of the government "cash for clunkers" subsidies do is cause the car companies to jack up the sticker price by an equal amount and take the money.
21:57 schestowitz[TR2]; flying planes
21:57 schestowitz[TR2]; with child sex in them
21:57 schestowitz[TR2]; and telling us about protecting the children's future
21:57 schestowitz[TR2]; and climate
21:57 schestowitz[TR2]; he has 4 private aircrafts
21:57 schestowitz[TR2]; borrows Lolita Express
21:57 schestowitz[TR2]; go figure
21:58 schestowitz[TR2]; http://techrights.org/2020/08/09/freger-abc-news-faa/
=> http://techrights.org/2020/08/09/freger-abc-news-faa/
21:58 TR Bot; Even the Mainstream/Corporate Media is Trying to Study Why (or If) Bill Gates and Epsteins Sex Abuse Ring Were Closely Connected | Techrights
21:58 DaemonFC; It's a felony for US citizens to go anywhere else in the world and have sex with a person under 18, even though doing that is actually legal in over half the states.
21:58 DaemonFC; So it's easier to commit a felony for that abroad than it is at home, but you can guess how many people they catch.
21:58 schestowitz[TR2]; what about across states?
21:59 schestowitz[TR2]; because that's conencted to a mate of Nat Friedman
21:59 schestowitz[TR2]; who took a CEO to another state
21:59 schestowitz[TR2]; when she was underage
21:59 schestowitz[TR2]; to screw her
21:59 DaemonFC; It's weird right, because it depends on the situation. Like, age of consent in Indiana is 16. Federal law says if I go across state lines, I can be hit with a federal felony for anyone under 18 if I crossed the line for the primary purpose of having sex with them. But if I go to Indiana for some other reason and decide to have sex with a 16 year old after I'm already there? Not a crime.
22:00 DaemonFC; But Illinois can still get me if they can prove I traveled to meet a minor in Indiana even if Indiana and the feds want nothing to do with it or can't press charges.
22:00 schestowitz[TR2]; so it's about hiring a lawyer
22:00 DaemonFC; Because they can prove that it involved Illinois somehow.
22:00 schestowitz[TR2]; to lie for you re motivations
22:01 DaemonFC; Basically, you need to create a legal fiction, schestowitz
22:01 schestowitz[TR2]; http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/
=> http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/
22:01 TR Bot; Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) | Techrights
22:01 DaemonFC; Like, "I was in Indiana already to go shopping and then we decided to have sex.".
22:01 DaemonFC; Which disarms Illinois and the feds, and then Indiana's age of consent law is controlling.
22:02 DaemonFC; You'd need to make sure you didn't discuss sex using any thing that the state might be monitoring, such as, I don't know, apps, Facebook, Zoom.
22:03 DaemonFC; At least until after you were in Illinois and the associated IP address and GPS says Indiana.
22:03 DaemonFC; Err, in Indiana
22:03 DaemonFC; Then you'd need to make sure it wasn't all a big setup.
22:03 DaemonFC; Like, you were actually talking to a federal agent who was there waiting for you.
22:04 DaemonFC; It's highly speculative, so it would be a big risk.
22:04 horseface; hi
22:04 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights
22:04 DaemonFC; The best legal advice you'd get is find someone over 18 to have sex with.
22:04 DaemonFC; And be happy with that.
22:04 DaemonFC; Most NORMAL people would be.
22:05 DaemonFC; Microsoft is stack with MSPedos.
22:05 DaemonFC; Like MS Peter.
22:05 DaemonFC; And Creepy Uncle Bill.
22:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz I don't think it's about sex so much as it's about the feeling of power of being above the law, too rich to go to prison, nobody will ever do anything about you.....
22:07 DaemonFC; He ran Microsoft like that, and it was likely just an outgrowth of his overall psychological profile, you know?
22:08 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: you are 38
22:08 DaemonFC; If someone ever did arrest him, he'd be out on bail by dinner time, hiring hundreds of attorneys to snow under the prosecutor's office and the court and come up with every cockamamie legal defense you can possibly imagine, and then the judge would be bribed, and the jury would start having trouble with their brake lines if it looked like they were going to decide "the wrong way".
22:08 schestowitz[TR2]; one day in your life
22:08 schestowitz[TR2]; you will say
22:08 schestowitz[TR2]; "well, he's dwad"
22:08 schestowitz[TR2]; about bill
22:08 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: BSD Now, The Linux Link Tech Show, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167765 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/AudiocastsShows:_BSD_Now,_The_Linux_Link_Tech_Show,_and_More.shtml #news
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167765
=> ↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/AudiocastsShows:_BSD_Now,_The_Linux_Link_Tech_Show,_and_More.shtml
22:09 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: BSD Now, The Linux Link Tech Show, and More | Tux Machines
22:09 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: BSD Now, The Linux Link Tech Show, and More
22:09 DaemonFC; schestowitz That's assuming he didn't just skip town.
22:09 schestowitz[TR2]; the corrupt, bribed mediaq will still be a necrophile for pedophile
22:09 DaemonFC; I mean, he's hidden assets in other countries. I'm sure there are contingencies to be smuggled over the border and out of the reach of the law.
22:10 DaemonFC; Where he'll live like some kind of a Nazi in Brazil.
22:10 DaemonFC; He knows it won't come to that, but you'd better believe it's all ready to go as soon as he bails out of the holding cell.
22:11 TR News; Preventing a common React bug. https://tigeroakes.com/posts/readonly-by-default/
=> ↺ https://tigeroakes.com/posts/readonly-by-default/
22:11 TR Bot; You should use ReadonlyArray in your React state | Tiger Oakes
22:11 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: Ubuntu Blog: Lets get confidential! Canonical Ubuntu Confidential VMs are now generally available on Microsoft Azure
22:11 TR Bot; get confidential! Canonical Ubuntu Confidential VMs are now generally available on Microsoft Azure | Ubuntu
22:11 schestowitz[TR2]; confidential!
22:11 schestowitz[TR2]; billG
22:11 schestowitz[TR2]; jeffrey epstein: confidential!
22:11 DaemonFC; schestowitz If I had $100 billion, you'd better believe some of it would be hidden away in non-extradition countries where I could go if anything ever happened.
22:11 DaemonFC; I mean, why wouldn't you>
22:11 DaemonFC; Insurance policy!
22:11 schestowitz[TR2]; bill: alrighty, let's go onboard
22:12 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: it's tricky
22:12 schestowitz[TR2]; see john mcafee
22:12 schestowitz[TR2]; ended up killing himself
22:12 schestowitz[TR2]; john "well, he's dead" mcafee
22:12 DaemonFC; Yes, but the scheme worked for quite some time.
22:12 DaemonFC; Bill Gates is old.
22:12 DaemonFC; If he can stall things out for 20 years, he probably will be dead.
22:13 DaemonFC; Or at least so old that if they get him, he'll be like one of those people where they die in jail a year later.
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22:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz If I was like a Pablo Escobar or something, I'd have been happy to just live in La Catedral according to the deal with the government.
22:13 DaemonFC; He had it good there!
22:14 DaemonFC; All he had to do was not fuck it up, and he did!
22:15 DaemonFC; How many narcoterrorists get to negotiate with the government to design a palace in the middle of a jungle where they will want for nothing, and all of the guards are on their payroll, and they still get to run their drug empire openly, and they are the only "prisoner" there, and they still get to have a private zoo, and they manage to screw it up?
22:15 DaemonFC; Those South American countries are incredibly, incredibly corrupt.
22:16 DaemonFC; Much worse than the Philippines.
22:16 TR News; Going after the kids now... and next the babies https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/28/potential-market-covid19/
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22:16 TR Bot; Blog Archive Who Still Gets Vaccinated for COVID-19 in England? Kids Under 12, the New Captive Market, Almost 2/3 of New Clients
22:16 TR News; Judging by comparable trends in Twitter analytics, traffic is going down as activity levels generally decrease; Facebook has experienced the same thing lately and Microsoft lays off LinkedIn staff, so there's consistency http://techrights.org/2022/07/28/gradual-death-of-twitter/
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22:16 TR Bot; Twitter is Dying, Based on Its Own Numbers (Which It Can Barely Fake Anymore, for Fear of Getting Caught by Elon Musk and His Lawyers) | Techrights
22:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz Yes, Musk finally did something good by mistake.
22:17 DaemonFC; Purely by being an idiot with money.
22:18 DaemonFC; Twitter could very well collapse, which will be a major win.
22:18 schestowitz[TR2]; yeah
22:18 schestowitz[TR2]; I liked that he wanted to buy it
22:18 DaemonFC; One less propaganda outlet. There's others, but they're a big one, and it will be a setback that will take the bad guys years to recover from.
22:18 schestowitz[TR2]; as it would accelerate the death
22:18 schestowitz[TR2]; it did
22:19 DaemonFC; They were faking their ratings to drive up ad prices.
22:19 DaemonFC; And he exposed it.
22:19 schestowitz[TR2]; yeah
22:19 schestowitz[TR2]; exactly
22:19 schestowitz[TR2]; I showed it in several videos
22:19 DaemonFC; It's like those stupid Nielson surveys I used to get with cash stuffed into the envelope and they wanted to know what TV shows I watched.
22:19 schestowitz[TR2]; I have a large set
22:19 schestowitz[TR2]; 951,000 tweets of mine
22:20 DaemonFC; I don't think it ever really mattered, because everything I watch gets canceled before there's a satisfying final season. Sometimes even AN ending to the story at all.
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22:20 DaemonFC; Netfucks has been circling the drain, and like cable TV they take it all out on the big budget productions that aren't good at selling advertising.
22:21 DaemonFC; They have a ratio where for every dollar spent, they want a certain amount of "engagement".
22:21 DaemonFC; And the shows that sell the ads are not like, you know, cerebral.
22:22 DaemonFC; It's stuff about hillbillies showing up to tow people's car off while your car is being towed off.
22:23 DaemonFC; Judge Judy yelling at people who have three teeth and they're all pointing in different directions.
22:24 DaemonFC; Steve Wilkos revealing the paternity test and causing a fist fight.
22:24 DaemonFC; Stuff I mainly watch while I'm down there asking Shaq "What's wrong with this stupid car?".
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22:25 TR News; Android apps on Linux with Waydroid Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167766 d https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/Android_apps_on_Linux_with_Waydroid.shtml #news
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22:25 TR Bot; Android apps on Linux with Waydroid | Tux Machines
22:25 TR Bot; Android apps on Linux with Waydroid
22:25 TR News; Python Programming: python-dev, OSMnx, IDEs, and Gradio Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167767 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/Python_Programming:_python-dev,_OSMnx,_IDEs,_and_Gradio.shtml #news
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22:25 TR Bot; Python Programming: python-dev, OSMnx, IDEs, and Gradio | Tux Machines
22:25 TR Bot; Python Programming: python-dev, OSMnx, IDEs, and Gradio
22:26 schestowitz[TR2]; c
22:26 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC:
22:26 schestowitz[TR2]; netflixx is a failed experiment
22:26 schestowitz[TR2]; on many levels
22:26 schestowitz[TR2]; drm
22:26 schestowitz[TR2]; producing one's own
22:26 schestowitz[TR2]; very expensive
22:26 schestowitz[TR2]; they dropped it in denmark months ago
22:26 DaemonFC; Fuck Netflix. I hope it goes under.
22:26 schestowitz[TR2]; also subscription with passwords
22:26 schestowitz[TR2]; people share passwords
22:27 schestowitz[TR2]; and can she the computer
22:27 schestowitz[TR2]; you cannot stop them
22:27 DaemonFC; This deal for ads with Microsoft is a desperate last step before mass firings and bankruptcy court.
22:27 schestowitz[TR2]; *can share
22:27 schestowitz[TR2]; yeah, only Microsoft will benefit
22:27 schestowitz[TR2]; netflix takes all the risks
22:27 schestowitz[TR2]; while microsoft might make a buck
22:27 DaemonFC; Aside from the DRM, there's too many streaming sites and they all cost too much.
22:27 schestowitz[TR2]; the ads will put people off
22:27 schestowitz[TR2]; they already pay
22:27 DaemonFC; And you never get to watch half of what you want to if you pay for 2-3 of them.
22:27 schestowitz[TR2]; drm? bye.
22:28 DaemonFC; It's time for some of them to collapse based on market forces alone.
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22:28 schestowitz[TR2]; if I find videos I like I sometimes download them
22:28 DaemonFC; Netflix is the first to go to the glue factory because it's the most diseased and we're heading into a really bad economy.
22:28 schestowitz[TR2]; that would freee up a lot of bandwidth
22:28 schestowitz[TR2]; south korean isps wanted to charge them premiums
22:29 schestowitz[TR2]; south korea had and maybe still has the workd's fatest internet connections
22:29 DaemonFC; If Netflix collapses, it also gets rid of a lobbying company that goes to Congress and asks for things to be even worse every year.
22:29 DaemonFC; I mean, we'll still have many of those, like Disney.
22:29 schestowitz[TR2]; but the we3c/www will keep drm/eme
22:29 schestowitz[TR2]; for gulag at least
22:29 DaemonFC; It's like "losing" Shitter.
22:29 schestowitz[TR2]; "protected contenbt"
22:29 schestowitz[TR2]; chromeos/androiud
22:30 DaemonFC; It will create a vacuum. Nature abhors a vacuum.
22:30 schestowitz[TR2]; hopefully irc :-)
22:30 DaemonFC; Maybe while the others are fighting over the scraps, something a lot more open will gain popularity. A real community.
22:30 schestowitz[TR2]; mgj is here
22:30 schestowitz[TR2]; in irc
22:30 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe shitter bores him
22:30 schestowitz[TR2]; all he can do it find a line in irc
22:30 schestowitz[TR2]; one in 10,000 lines
22:30 schestowitz[TR2]; then link to it in shitter
22:30 DaemonFC; Matt. J. GOOOOOOOOOLAG. SUE-PER Genius!
22:30 schestowitz[TR2]; for the brigade
22:31 schestowitz[TR2]; (microsoft staff
22:32 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: way to waste money gained from a bombing company
22:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz Like Wile E. Coyote handing out his business card and declaring himself to be a super genius (on the card and in a really pretentious tone of voice) while he was always blowing himself up and having his own anvils land on him.
22:33 MinceR; https://i.redd.it/z2cxorc8kbe91.png
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22:34 DaemonFC; Most companies probably don't want to have drama queens there griping about microaggressions against all day for outrageous salaries, Mozilla excluded. They fire 250 engineers to keep a D&I Officer.
22:35 schestowitz[TR2]; engineers not included
22:35 schestowitz[TR2]; alright then
22:35 DaemonFC; Maybe he can be their Chief Officer of Trans-Inclusion while they get rid of the people working ont heir Internet browser.
22:35 schestowitz[TR2]; MOAR "social media consultawnts"
22:35 schestowitz[TR2]; btw
22:35 schestowitz[TR2]; jim zemlin
22:35 schestowitz[TR2]; he and sheela Microsoft are coding seervo
22:35 schestowitz[TR2]; at home
22:35 schestowitz[TR2]; sheela microsoft does the pseudocode
22:35 DaemonFC; Mr. Zeppelin to you!
22:36 DaemonFC; They want to make Linux go really slow, catch fire, and crash. Just like Windows.
22:36 schestowitz[TR2]; http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/microsoft-breadwinner/
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22:36 TR Bot; Who Brings Home the Bacon (Revenue), Sheela or James (Jim)? | Techrights
22:37 TR News; 6 Factors that Make Linux Important for your Small Business Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167768 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/6_Factors_that_Make_Linux_Important_for_your_Small_Business.shtml #news
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22:37 TR Bot; 6 Factors that Make Linux Important for your Small Business | Tux Machines
22:37 TR Bot; 6 Factors that Make Linux Important for your Small Business
22:38 schestowitz[TR2]; http://techrights.org/wiki/Jim_Zemlin
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22:38 TR Bot; Jim Zemlin - Techrights
22:38 matey; <schestowitz[TR2]> drm? bye. <- no no no its
22:38 TR News; 10 Common Mistakes First-Time Linux Users Make Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167769
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22:38 TR Bot; 10 Common Mistakes First-Time Linux Users Make | Tux Machines
22:38 matey; bye, drm
22:38 schestowitz[TR2]; or:
22:38 schestowitz[TR2]; drm? bye!
22:38 schestowitz[TR2]; not the same ;-)
22:38 schestowitz[TR2]; for me it's the latter
22:38 DaemonFC; schestowitz Life in the ghetto. I stepped out of my moldy apartment, to get a breath of fresh marijuana smoke from the neighbors, on my way to dump out a bucket of slop in the bushes, where I was greeted by the delightful odor of sewer gas.
22:38 schestowitz[TR2]; drm is not dead yet
22:39 matey; drm, dont buy
22:39 DaemonFC; Mr. GOOOOOLAG thinks he's gangsta.
22:39 matey; no its not even mostly dead :/
22:39 matey; sadly every time they put drm on some new thing
22:39 matey; the new thing is given a chance
22:39 DaemonFC; Why was I dumping out slop in the bushes?
22:39 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: it's ser-a-pi
22:39 matey; like its not enough that its drm-- this time it could be the GOOD drm
22:39 schestowitz[TR2]; medical cbd
22:40 matey; like this time maybe lucy wont grab the ball when charlie brown goes to kick it
22:40 schestowitz[TR2]; never mine if it stinks other people's homes
22:40 schestowitz[TR2]; our next door neighbour does it
22:40 matey; but she always does
22:40 schestowitz[TR2]; stinks our kitchen
22:40 schestowitz[TR2]; and makes it hard to be at the back yard
22:40 DaemonFC; Because the drainage pipes in this place are one piece of gunk away from plugging up and spilling over onto my kitchen floor again while I call the Mexican guy the landlord pays to come out and snake the pipes every so often.
22:40 DaemonFC; You know when he's here because the pipes start going GURGLE BLURGLE SPLITCHFERSPLATCH!
22:40 matey; /me loves the small of...
22:41 matey; <schestowitz[TR2]> medical cbd <- i bet its not just cbd
22:41 schestowitz[TR2]; it's a diick with a fa in his mouth
22:41 schestowitz[TR2]; kevin
22:41 schestowitz[TR2]; he's about 60
22:41 matey; <schestowitz[TR2]> and makes it hard to be at the back yard <- if anything, it should make it easier
22:41 schestowitz[TR2]; his eife smokes those fags too
22:41 DaemonFC; schestowitz The only reason I put up with all of this is because fleeing the ghetto costs more money than it's worth.
22:41 schestowitz[TR2]; *wife
22:41 schestowitz[TR2]; alma
22:42 schestowitz[TR2]; not almalinux
22:42 DaemonFC; Just lock the five locks every night and sleep with a gun on the nightstand.
22:42 schestowitz[TR2]; that's mILL
22:42 schestowitz[TR2]; sorry
22:42 schestowitz[TR2]; IL
22:42 matey; milkshake duck loves a fag now and again
22:42 DaemonFC; Save your $800 a month in extra rent vs. getting out of here.
22:42 DaemonFC; Know your place.
22:42 schestowitz[TR2]; black dialect has "ILL"
22:42 schestowitz[TR2]; that means bad
22:42 schestowitz[TR2]; and bad means good
22:42 schestowitz[TR2]; but ill is not good
22:42 schestowitz[TR2]; geddit?
22:42 matey; unfortunately hes racist
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22:43 DaemonFC; schestowitz The Illinois Policy Institute said we have 144,000 less jobs in STATE OF ILL than we did in March 2020, as of the latest jobs report.
22:43 schestowitz[TR2]; ccan't be
22:43 DaemonFC; I told them, "Well, that's convenient, because we probably have 150,000 less residents since then. So, growth!".
22:43 schestowitz[TR2]; oligarchs' own media said it rebounded
22:43 schestowitz[TR2]; all are back to work
22:43 schestowitz[TR2]; unemployment new lows
22:44 schestowitz[TR2]; 4% :-)
22:44 schestowitz[TR2]; iot's SO bad
22:44 schestowitz[TR2]; that people don't have emvelopes
22:44 schestowitz[TR2]; and cannot afford to travel to intervies
22:44 schestowitz[TR2]; they barely stand a chance either
22:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz Everyone firing people and unemployment is "only" 4% no matter what they do.
22:44 DaemonFC; It's a Christmas miracle.
22:44 schestowitz[TR2]; would rather spare the money and try to survive day to dauy
22:44 DaemonFC; Praise Biden! PRAISE HIM!
22:44 schestowitz[TR2]; those "lazy" "yuppies"
22:44 matey; maybe they pushed the envelopes too much
22:44 schestowitz[TR2]; who cannot drive to job interviews... with 1000 candidate per opening
22:45 DaemonFC; schestowitz Amazon stopped construction on 150 warehouses that was in progress.
22:45 DaemonFC; They just sit there, half-done.
22:45 schestowitz[TR2]; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3NcXflFEZQ
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22:45 TR Bot; https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=U3NcXflFEZQ
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22:45 TR Bot; not resolve host: tube.cthd.icu; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=U3NcXflFEZQ )
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22:45 schestowitz[TR2]; https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/07/24/ivanka-trump-find-something-new/
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22:45 DaemonFC; The only reason Waukegan was spared was because they finished it before they announced the halt.
22:45 TR Bot; Ivanka Trump's find something new campaign is old advice repackaged - The Washington Post
22:45 schestowitz[TR2]; https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/14/politics/ivanka-trump-find-something-new-unemployment/index.htmlhttps://www.themarysue.com/trump-unveils-awful-find-something-new-campaign-for-jobs/
22:45 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/14/politics/ivanka-trump-find-something-new-unemployment/index.htmlhttps://www.themarysue.com/trump-unveils-awful-find-something-new-campaign-for-jobs/ )
22:45 schestowitz[TR2]; https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/14/politics/ivanka-trump-find-something-new-unemployment/index.html https://www.themarysue.com/trump-unveils-awful-find-something-new-campaign-for-jobs/
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22:45 TR Bot; New Ivanka Trump initiative tells out-of-work Americans to 'find something new' - CNNPolitics
22:45 TR Bot; Trump Unveils Absurd 'Find Something New' Ad Campaign for Jobs | The Mary Sue
22:45 schestowitz[TR2]; his own businesses lose money
22:46 schestowitz[TR2]; but start something nws
22:46 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe russians will save it via deutsche bank
22:46 DaemonFC; I don't know HOW we got an Amazon Warehouse when we're 6 miles from Wisconsin and they could have just built it there and not had to deal with the business climate of this fucking place.
22:46 DaemonFC; 2nd worst after New Jersey.
22:46 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights
22:47 DaemonFC; schestowitz Instead of fixing what's wrong with Illinois, the Democrats are considering passing a law like New Jersey has to make it illegal to pump your own gas, to create artificial employment.
22:47 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bve6r9MybJM
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22:47 TR Bot; JustSomeMotion (JSM) - Jamie Berry Feat. Octavia Rose - Delight - #neoswing - Invidious
22:47 DaemonFC; I asked someone from Jersey what that's like, and they said you honk and honk and nobody comes out and eventually you commit a crime to pump your own gas and pay the guy who is supposed to do it but isn't with high gas prices.
22:48 TR News; Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 alpha 13 https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-13 Source: godotengine | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-13
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22:48 TR Bot; Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 alpha 13
22:48 DaemonFC; schestowitz If Illinois wants to pass something, they ought to force Walmart to rip out the self-checkouts. They just remodeled and got rid of all but one regular checkout.
22:48 DaemonFC; The rest are all "self" now. Almost 50 of them!
22:49 DaemonFC; They'd rather deal with all the theft going on all day than pay a cashier $15 an hour? This is fucking stupid shit that could only make sense to a business executive.
22:49 schestowitz[TR2]; boycott them then
22:49 schestowitz[TR2]; but
22:49 schestowitz[TR2]; they probably killed off the nearby alternatives
22:49 schestowitz[TR2]; welcome to communism
22:49 DaemonFC; schestowitz They probably make up for that with grocery pickup.
22:50 DaemonFC; I buy groceries that way. I get more points, so it's cheaper to have someone shop for me.
22:50 DaemonFC; And they get a job.
22:50 DaemonFC; schestowitz Some good news on the Walmart front though!
22:50 DaemonFC; DoorDash turned out to be such unreliable shit, it nearly tanked Walmart Plus.
22:50 matey; <schestowitz[TR2]> welcome to communism <- not quite
22:51 DaemonFC; So they gave up and terminated the deal, and pay their own driver $18 an hour now to drive a delivery van owned by Walmart.
22:51 TR News; How to Program an Arduino With a Raspberry Pi - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/program-arduino-with-raspberry-pi/ Source: maketecheasier | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.maketecheasier.com/program-arduino-with-raspberry-pi/
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22:51 TR Bot; How to Program an Arduino With a Raspberry Pi - Make Tech Easier
22:51 schestowitz[TR2]; matey: partly sarcastic
22:51 DaemonFC; I hated that. Oh my God, I hated DoorDash. They'd dump your stuff at some other house, or steal it.
22:51 schestowitz[TR2]; when I said this to RMS his reaction was the same
22:51 DaemonFC; Then mark it "delivered".
22:51 schestowitz[TR2]; that it is a false analogy
22:51 matey; heh
22:51 schestowitz[TR2]; it's on video
22:51 matey; hes right, but for the wrong reasons
22:51 DaemonFC; And Walmart got so many complaints, they stopped questioning where it all went and gave you your money back.
22:52 matey; ive seen it
22:52 schestowitz[TR2]; RMS seems protective of communism
22:52 schestowitz[TR2]; tbh
22:52 DaemonFC; schestowitz THIS IS A GOOD THING!
22:52 DaemonFC; No more fucking DoorDash. Buh bye!
22:52 matey; hes definitely not a communist
22:52 schestowitz[TR2]; good riddance
22:52 DaemonFC; W2 employees driving company van.
22:52 schestowitz[TR2]; more layoffs
22:52 schestowitz[TR2]; start sometrhing new
22:52 schestowitz[TR2]; DoorDashNext
22:53 matey; hes against stalinism, so am i
22:53 schestowitz[TR2]; DoorDaesh
22:53 DaemonFC; DoorDash never made any sense. Matt J. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLAG complained about his "pizza".
22:53 DaemonFC; It was "cold".
22:53 DaemonFC; Cold cold "pizza".
22:53 schestowitz[TR2]; it traveled a long journey
22:53 schestowitz[TR2]; on legs
22:53 DaemonFC; DoorDash is one of those idiotic San Francisco things.
22:53 schestowitz[TR2]; in the cold
22:53 DaemonFC; Webvan 2.0
22:53 matey; but a bunch of other stuff he just gets wrong-- like its not even from a reasonable premise
22:53 matey; politically i mean
22:54 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6oqXVx3sBOk
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22:54 TR Bot; Blur - Coffee And TV (Official Music Video) - Invidious
22:54 schestowitz[TR2]; his pizza
22:55 matey; doordash
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22:55 matey; their trust model requires delivery people to take a picture of my home and upload it to doordash
22:55 matey; get the door, its google maps
22:55 *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@2e2c9k5uam4rg.irc) has joined #techrights
22:55 matey; the crap version
22:56 matey; but they have food
22:56 DaemonFC; I think K-Linebera.Chat got me again.
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22:56 schestowitz[TR2]; those companies don't do anything
22:56 schestowitz[TR2]; the kitchens do
22:56 matey; its worse than that
22:56 schestowitz[TR2]; they write a very shity "apps"
22:56 matey; read what stallmans page said
22:56 schestowitz[TR2]; that college students can make as a first yar proiject
22:56 matey; they even make doordash only places
22:56 *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@xu8e5gzdxpuic.irc) has joined #techrights
22:56 schestowitz[TR2]; larrison (oracle) joked about this
22:56 matey; that cut more corners than real restaurants
22:56 schestowitz[TR2]; and then outsource the travel to some desperate p[eop
22:56 schestowitz[TR2]; l"gig economy"
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22:57 matey; thats exactly what it is
22:57 schestowitz[TR2]; and then lobby to cover their arse when therree is rape, robbery etc.
22:57 matey; more like the gag economy, because businesses are choking on it
22:57 *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@uv4wmq3qfttkq.irc) has joined #techrights
22:57 matey; wait, there are doordash rapes?
22:57 schestowitz[TR2]; uber
22:57 schestowitz[TR2]; lyft
22:57 schestowitz[TR2]; same model
22:57 schestowitz[TR2]; no real staff
22:57 matey; ugh
22:58 schestowitz[TR2]; just "app"
22:58 schestowitz[TR2]; and seerver
22:58 schestowitz[TR2]; to commendeer the slaves
22:58 schestowitz[TR2]; the "customers"
22:58 DaemonFC; Yeah, I'll brb.
22:58 matey; like google
22:58 schestowitz[TR2]; and the "workers"
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22:58 matey; try and get them on the phone
22:58 schestowitz[TR2]; real taxis are built to lower such risk
22:58 schestowitz[TR2]; like black cabs
22:58 schestowitz[TR2]; with locks and caged part
22:58 schestowitz[TR2]; and cameras
22:59 matey; black cabs are the best
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
22:59 schestowitz[TR2]; lots of room for suitcases
22:59 schestowitz[TR2]; no "boot"
22:59 matey; they use systemd?
22:59 *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@64ucc9vur9ywy.irc) has joined #techrights
22:59 matey; "no boot"
22:59 schestowitz[TR2]; no
22:59 schestowitz[TR2]; systemd is just a boot system
22:59 matey; "have you tried updating the kernel"
23:00 DaemonFC; Libera is very hostile.
23:00 matey; please wait while systemd updates
23:00 DaemonFC; They demand SASL much like the King of Korea or whatever he styles himself as.
23:00 phanes; it is sometimes hard to keep faith in humanity after hearing what the people who cvontrol it say and think about how it works
23:00 matey; DO NOT turn off your computer
23:00 schestowitz[TR2]; systemd-updated
23:00 matey; systemd-doordashd
23:00 schestowitz[TR2]; microsoft lintard: we made our own update program!
23:00 schestowitz[TR2]; it's still in beta
23:00 schestowitz[TR2]; report bugs
23:00 schestowitz[TR2]; in github
23:01 schestowitz[TR2]; create microsoft accunt
23:01 schestowitz[TR2]; oops
23:01 schestowitz[TR2]; account
23:01 matey; lol
23:01 schestowitz[TR2]; bad typo
23:01 matey; closer to the truth though
23:01 schestowitz[TR2]; microsoft a-kant
23:02 schestowitz[TR2]; herr kant
23:02 schestowitz[TR2]; I love herr kant
23:02 matey; "are you from kent?"
23:02 matey; lol
23:02 schestowitz[TR2]; smart man
23:02 schestowitz[TR2]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Kant
=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Kant
23:02 TR Bot; Immanuel Kant - Wikipedia
23:02 matey; he was a great pissant
23:02 schestowitz[TR2]; smarter than herr sixel
23:03 matey; who nearly shloshed as schlagel
23:03 matey; good old herr sixel
23:03 matey; the SENSITIVE nazi
23:03 schestowitz[TR2]; he will be back one day
23:03 phanes; kant was awesome
23:03 matey; i know
23:03 phanes; the categorical imperative is something to live by no matter what hegel says
23:03 matey; phanes: sure, but so is the song
23:03 schestowitz[TR2]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DC8ioZkb-Sc
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DC8ioZkb-Sc
23:03 TR Bot; Immanuel Kant Song - Invidious
23:04 matey; theres nothing nietzsche couldnt teach ya bout the raising of the wrist
23:04 DaemonFC; It's so nice of Libera Chat to demand SASL like Crown Prince of Korea-Node.
23:04 matey; a lovely little thinker but a bugger when hes pissed
23:04 DaemonFC; Give me something else stupid to figure out in ChatZilla.
23:04 phanes; i think where he falls short, though, is his categorization of chaos as "always bad"
23:04 matey; yeah obviously never played d&d
23:04 phanes; there should be a little chaos for things to stay balanced
23:05 matey; /me hasnt either, but still knows better than kant on this one
23:05 phanes; DaemonFC, where do you think lee got the idea from
23:05 phanes; libera isn't doing it to match leenode, leenode is doing it to match liberia
23:05 TR News; "Im relieved that Manchin signed, because were getting a commitment of 40% emissions reduction by 2030, and thats a hell of a lot better than what it looked like we were getting a few hours ago (and why I had been sobbing all week like the big old moper snowflake I am)..." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/bbba
=> ↺ gemini://idiomdrottning.org/bbba
23:05 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vO1CCXXMzBI
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vO1CCXXMzBI
23:05 TR Bot; Reggie Watts - A Song About Apples (Always Love Yourself) - Invidious
23:06 phanes; and liberia does it so they can force registrations so they can better exclude participants from the foss community
23:06 DaemonFC; Pretty much all IRC clients removed FreeNode, except for miRC.
23:06 DaemonFC; "We're going to remove this even if you are using it!" -liberals
23:06 matey; so they can better exclude participants from the foss community <- but they call it inclusion
23:06 DaemonFC; Censorship.
23:06 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: yes, it was removed
23:06 schestowitz[TR2]; or blanked
23:06 phanes; yeah its all code for the literally least inclusive environment in their history
23:06 matey; inclusion: we drive away anyone neurodivergent then we gradually let the ones back in who adhere will to our doublespeak
23:07 matey; thats stalinism for you
23:07 schestowitz[TR2]; inclusion: we need to welcome the disabled
23:07 schestowitz[TR2]; inclusion: we need to ban the disabled who don't like us
23:07 schestowitz[TR2]; or whom we do not understand
23:07 schestowitz[TR2]; or whom we defame
23:08 matey; yup
23:08 schestowitz[TR2]; it's circular BS
23:08 DaemonFC; People with mental illness are definitely all liberals.
23:08 XRevan86; DaemonFC: How do ye survive without techrights in a client's built-in list?
23:08 matey; especially anyone who says anything mildly controversial
23:08 DaemonFC; I learned that on matrix.org, I mean Libera.chat, I mean Reddit.
23:08 matey; <schestowitz[TR2]> it's circular BS < - authoritarianism, hypocrisy and double standards
23:08 schestowitz[TR2]; "The Taliban seized Kabul as U.S. and NATO forces were withdrawing from Afghanistan" https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/amnesty-taliban-crackdown-on-rights-is-suffocating-women-1.6003793 Woke activist be like, "BUT DOES TALIBAN HAVE A CODE OF CONDUCT??"
=> ↺ https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/amnesty-taliban-crackdown-on-rights-is-suffocating-women-1.6003793
23:08 XRevan86; No techrights on the list is Censorship.
23:08 TR Bot; Taliban crackdown on rights is 'suffocating' women: Amnesty | CTV News
23:08 phanes; in my case i get it because i went to war with them and beat them, and they really do not like historical accuracy lol, but there's alot of people that they keep out, and not all of them are bad
23:09 schestowitz[TR2]; XRevan86: techghts is smaller
23:09 schestowitz[TR2]; and was never on the list in the first place
23:09 matey; they really do not like historical accuracy <- rewriting history has always been a weapon against free software
23:09 schestowitz[TR2]; they create problems for existing users of freenode
23:09 schestowitz[TR2]; as if to "hgelp" them
23:09 schestowitz[TR2]; by preventing them trying to do what they mean to do
23:09 XRevan86; DaemonFC: "People with mental illness are definitely all liberals." <- So that's why Medvedev is called a liberal
23:09 schestowitz[TR2]; https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=techrights
=> ↺ https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=techrights
23:09 TR Bot; NO TITLE
23:10 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vO1CCXXMzBI <- if stallman was black
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vO1CCXXMzBI
23:10 TR Bot; Reggie Watts - A Song About Apples (Always Love Yourself) - Invidious
23:10 XRevan86; schestowitz: But freenode became small and irrelevant as well.
23:10 matey; note the "chaotic good" shirt
23:10 XRevan86; There's no obligation to keep that in the list.
23:10 phanes; anyway, when they say inclusive, they aren't talking about actual inclusion, it's a weird perversion of the definition that is meant to only include very specific demographics
23:11 matey; it's a weird perversion of the definition <- its like something putin would come up with
23:11 matey; z = peace
23:11 DaemonFC; XRevan86DaemonFC: "People with mental illness are definitely all liberals." <- So that's why Medvedev is called a liberal
23:11 matey; victory is peace, invasion is victory, invasion is peace
23:11 DaemonFC; Maybe they can take him to the place where people scream and bang their head on the wall until he's feeling better.
23:11 DaemonFC; Those Russians take so good care of their mentally ill.
23:12 XRevan86; Famous for it, yes.
23:12 matey; when the support letter was flooeded with names in russian, someone asked why
23:12 matey; and the reply was "because theyve seen this shit before"
23:12 phanes; their issue is fuchs has a "the little people" view on life, and that is just not compatible with empathy-driven leadership
23:13 phanes; good leadership requires actual empathy, not the preetend kind you bring back from a D&I convention
23:14 TR News; Free Software Directory meeting on IRC: Friday, July 29, starting at 12:00 EDT (16:00 UTC) https://www.fsf.org/events/fsd-20220729-irc comms platform still bossed by people who actively tried to decapitet the FSF
=> ↺ https://www.fsf.org/events/fsd-20220729-irc
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23:14 TR Bot; Free Software Directory meeting on IRC: Friday, July 29, starting at 12:00 EDT (16:00 UTC) Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
23:14 schestowitz[TR2]; *decapitate
23:18 TR News; Openwashing https://opensource.googleblog.com/2022/07/SkyWater-and-Google-expand-open-source-program-to-new-90nm-technology.html
23:18 TR Bot; SkyWater and Google expand open source program to new 90nm technology | Google Open Source Blog
23:18 matey; empathy is what narcissists do best https://yewtu.be/watch?v=J0r482PIbzw
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=J0r482PIbzw
23:18 TR Bot; The Mini Adventures of Winnie the Pooh: What Tiggers Do Best - Invidious
23:19 DaemonFC; matey z = peace
23:19 DaemonFC; The Bear Hug
23:19 DaemonFC; Kinky
23:19 TR News; Mozilla: let's fire our engineers and hire cameramen instead https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/new-mozilla-docuseries-firefox-presents-launch/
=> ↺ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/new-mozilla-docuseries-firefox-presents-launch/
23:19 TR Bot; New Mozilla Docuseries Firefox Presents Celebrates Creators
23:19 matey; narrated by john cleese
23:19 phanes; matey, most narcissists can emulate it to some degree but none of them actually experience it, and they view it to be a weakness or character flaw
23:20 TR News; Baker is the wrong name. She should change surname to Butcher (very common in UK).
23:20 matey; yes it was a double joke
23:20 phanes; oh ha
23:20 matey; first they have terrible empathy. second, they do EVERYTHING best
23:20 DaemonFC; They went from Mr. JavaScript Trap to Ms. Baker (the undertaker).
23:21 TR News; This Month Mozilla Firefox Reached Its Lowest Share (Just 3%), But CEO Baker Made a Fortune (Especially When Mozilla Sank) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/baker-salaries/ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//techrights.org/2022/07/07/baker-salaries/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/07/baker-salaries/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/baker-salaries/
=> gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//techrights.org/2022/07/07/baker-salaries/
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/07/baker-salaries/
23:21 matey; not hating on tigger or anything. but everything is what tiggers do best
23:21 TR Bot; This Month Mozilla Firefox Reached Its Lowest Share (Just 3%), But CEO Baker Made a Fortune (Especially When Mozilla Sank) | Techrights
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23:21 matey; /me had no idea john cleese was connected to winnie the pooh
23:21 matey; til
23:21 schestowitz[TR2]; https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/john-cleese-sxsw-panel-1235109668/
=> ↺ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/john-cleese-sxsw-panel-1235109668/
23:21 TR Bot; John Cleese Went Off on Slavery at SXSW as Crowd Cringed The Hollywood Reporter
23:21 schestowitz[TR2]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jA95FKbs_Jg
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jA95FKbs_Jg
23:21 TR Bot; John Cleese Walks Out on BBC News Interview - Invidious
23:22 schestowitz[TR2]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=utUhu2pUhP4
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=utUhu2pUhP4
23:22 TR Bot; How real madness inspired a comedy legend | Fawlty Towers' John Cleese on Parkinson - BBC - Invidious
23:23 DaemonFC; The fact that GULAG CRASH started hurting Firefox immediately, isn't surprising. The early losses would be marginally attached idiots who were actually swayed by Google plastering "Get Chrome" buttons everywhere.
23:24 DaemonFC; The losses intensify as Mozilla directs money away from Firefox development, stuffs it with ads and malware, and Google dumps cheap Chromebooks on everyone, especially the kids.
23:24 *psydruid is a big fan of
23:25 DaemonFC; Firefox Blog be all like "The worst thing about the Web is we haven't canceled nearly enough people from it yet.".
23:25 matey; be dee be dee dee
23:25 DaemonFC; "We must turn the entire Web into Netflix and Reddit HERR DERRR!"
23:25 matey; <- read this as "mahna mahna"
23:25 matey; who is
23:25 XRevan86; matey: Winnie the Pooh
23:25 matey; for real?
23:26 XRevan86; matey: Why wouldn't it be?
23:26 TR News; THE END of Big Tech gatekeeping, and Intel ray Tracing goes x100 - Linux and open Source News - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=LrEbmUGTwQY | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/LrEbmUGTwQY
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=LrEbmUGTwQY
=> ↺ gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/LrEbmUGTwQY
23:26 TR Bot; THE END of Big Tech gatekeeping, and Intel ray Tracing goes x100 - Linux and open Source News - Invidious
23:26 matey; son of a bitch
23:26 XRevan86; No, a bear.
23:26 matey; matey: Why wouldn't it be <- because its too awesome
23:26 TR News; Nokia Forced This FOSS Project To Change Its Name - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BqWg2b0K2-o | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/BqWg2b0K2-o
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BqWg2b0K2-o
=> ↺ gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/BqWg2b0K2-o
23:26 TR Bot; Nokia Forced This FOSS Project To Change It's Name - Invidious
23:27 matey; No, a bear. <- that is technically so
23:27 XRevan86; matey: psydruid being a fan of Winnie-the-Pooh?
23:27 matey; you know ive seen how far these things make it
23:27 matey; but sometimes they make it farther than expected
23:27 TR News; "Hello and welcome to the 476th installment of Linux in the Ham Shack." https://lhspodcast.info/2022/07/lhs-episode-476-so2sdr-deep-dive-2/
=> ↺ https://lhspodcast.info/2022/07/lhs-episode-476-so2sdr-deep-dive-2/
23:27 TR Bot; LHS Episode #476: SO2SDR Deep Dive | Linux in the Ham Shack
23:27 matey; i suppose theres no reason to think winnie the pooh would cover less of the world than say, mr bean
23:28 psydruid; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQmGXzNMw0E
=> ↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQmGXzNMw0E
23:28 TR Bot; https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=BQmGXzNMw0E
=> ↺ https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=BQmGXzNMw0E
23:28 TR Bot; inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | (Vinni Puh) - Soyuzmulfilm - Invidious
23:28 DaemonFC; mateyyou know ive seen how far these things make it
23:28 DaemonFC; Since the 1920s?
23:28 matey; i had a VERY old winnie the pooh book once. found it in a shop. not in good enough condition to be worth a fortune (i didnt pay much either)
23:28 DaemonFC; Not the Disney version, but the book.
23:28 matey; i hope my wife got it somehow
23:29 matey; she was the book collector
23:29 psydruid; the Russian Winnie the Pooh is a cynical bastard, which makes him much more relatable
23:29 DaemonFC; There's a Russian Winnie the Pooh?
23:29 matey; the Russian Winnie the Pooh is a cynical bastard <- now youre just fucking with me
23:29 DaemonFC; Huh. Learn something every day.
23:29 XRevan86; DaemonFC: psydruid posted a link.
23:29 XRevan86; No subtitles there though.
23:30 matey; . o O (mincer the pooh)
23:30 DaemonFC; Does he go around sticking people with ricin umbrellas when singing "I'm just a little black rain cloud."?
23:31 matey; original winnie the pooh: time for my exercise, up and down...
23:31 matey; russian winnie the pooh: i wonder if i give everyone some honey, if their bellies will be larger than mine...
23:31 XRevan86; https://youtu.be/l3yhBEQlH_Y First episode with subtitles.
=> ↺ https://youtu.be/l3yhBEQlH_Y
23:31 TR Bot; https://y.com.sb/watch?v=l3yhBEQlH_Y
=> ↺ https://y.com.sb/watch?v=l3yhBEQlH_Y
23:31 TR Bot; y.com.sb | Winnie Pooh / - with Russian & English subtitles - Invidious
23:31 matey; wow
23:31 DaemonFC; "Oh I'm just a little black rain cloud..." stick stick stick "....hovering over the honey tree!" stick "I'm just a little black raaaaaain cloud!" stick stick "Pay nyet attention to me!" stick
23:32 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Is there a Disney version of that?
23:32 DaemonFC; Maybe.
23:32 matey; silly old comrade
23:32 matey; christopher robin, you couldnt spare a small ration of honey, could you
23:32 matey; "of course, pooh"
23:33 XRevan86; matey: Pooh is voiced by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Leonov by the way.
=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Leonov
23:33 TR Bot; Yevgeny Leonov - Wikipedia
23:33 matey; the snails are epic
23:33 matey; wait wait im still getting over learning cleese narrated the disney version
23:33 XRevan86; matey: Ye could've seen him in that clip from To Kill a Dragon I showed earlier.
23:33 matey; "im the narrator" <- this is from when i was a kid
23:34 schestowitz[TR2]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uw8dW9Hyno0
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uw8dW9Hyno0
23:34 matey; xrevan86: i may have, only i didnt watch the whole thing
23:34 TR Bot; Official Rowan Atkinson Live - Full length standup - Invidious
23:34 matey; holy shit dude
23:34 matey; this is one trippy pooh
23:34 matey; and he looks REALLY familiar
23:34 matey; for some reason
23:34 phanes; rowan atkinson is a seriously funny human being
23:35 phanes; mr. bean probably
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23:35 TR News; Garuda Linux Talon: Arch, but different, and better Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167770 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/Garuda_Linux_%27Talon%27:_Arch,_but_different,_and_better.shtml #news
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167770
=> ↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/Garuda_Linux_%27Talon%27:_Arch,_but_different,_and_better.shtml
23:35 TR Bot; Garuda Linux 'Talon': Arch, but different, and better | Tux Machines
23:35 TR Bot; Garuda Linux 'Talon': Arch, but different, and better
23:35 XRevan86; psydruid: He has more of a character for sure, and a goofy one at that.
23:35 phanes; he was also in a show called Blackadder that was reasonably funny
23:36 matey; this is like parker and stone did a bunch of acid in eastern europe and decided to remake winnie the pooh. in russian.
23:36 XRevan86; I got the impression that Pooh is the most plain character in the Disney show about him.
23:36 matey; he was also in a show called Blackadder <- with hugh laurie and stephen fry
23:36 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: Linux in the Ham Shack, Notkia, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167771 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/AudiocastsShows:_Linux_in_the_Ham_Shack,_Notkia,_and_More.shtml #news
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167771
=> ↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/AudiocastsShows:_Linux_in_the_Ham_Shack,_Notkia,_and_More.shtml
23:36 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: Linux in the Ham Shack, Notkia, and More | Tux Machines
23:36 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: Linux in the Ham Shack, Notkia, and More
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23:37 TR News; Kernel: BPF, PTE, and x86 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167772 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/Kernel:_BPF,_PTE,_and_x86.shtml #news
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=> ↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/Kernel:_BPF,_PTE,_and_x86.shtml
23:37 TR Bot; Kernel: BPF, PTE, and x86 | Tux Machines
23:37 matey; I got the impression that Pooh is the most plain character in the Disney show about him. <- hes fairly straightforward yes
23:37 TR Bot; Kernel: BPF, PTE, and x86
23:37 matey; /me used to have blackadder on vhs
23:37 matey; also jeeves and wooster (fry and laurie again)
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23:38 XRevan86; matey: "this is like parker and stone did a bunch of acid in eastern europe and decided to remake winnie the pooh. in russian." <- I wonder what's your opinion on Soviet Mowgli :).
23:38 *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114])
23:38 TR News; "When a valid user opens a malicious project file specially crafted by an attacker, the software reads data outside of the intended buffer, allowing an attacker to potentially cause a denial-of-service condition in the software." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-350-05
=> ↺ https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-350-05
23:38 TR Bot; Mitsubishi Electric FA Engineering Software (Update B) | CISA
23:39 matey; this is one of the wildest things ive ever seen
23:39 matey; its like its from another dimension
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23:40 matey; when i was in the uk i was more than a little disappointed at how foreign it wasnt
23:40 matey; you know, you travel that far, you hope to see new things
23:40 matey; and i did
23:40 matey; just not quite as much as i hoped
23:40 XRevan86; matey: I'd say The Little Mermaid is more from another dimension.
23:40 matey; but which one?
23:41 matey; the original is a classic
23:41 XRevan86; 1968
23:41 matey; okay
23:41 matey; disney got their hands on that too of course
23:41 XRevan86; matey: Hans Christian Andersen, Public Domain and such.
23:42 XRevan86; It's seen a lot of on-screen adaptations.
23:42 matey; /me watches vinni puh and stares
23:42 matey; yes the public domain
23:42 matey; that was a thing
23:42 XRevan86; Though apparently this one is the oldest.
23:42 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167773 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/techrights_2.shtml #news
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23:42 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
23:42 TR Bot; Today in Techrights
23:43 matey; now every creative work has the sort of sword of damocles over it
23:43 matey; including the gnu project
23:44 matey; /me has got to find a way to download subtitles
23:44 XRevan86; matey: yt-dlp can
23:44 matey; i know its in the help listing
23:44 matey; last time it didnt work
23:44 matey; yeah i use yt-dlp
23:44 matey; in many ways youtube-dl is more my cup of tea
23:44 matey; both are github
23:44 XRevan86; --write-subs
23:44 matey; ill try it
23:45 schestowitz[TR2]; wow
23:45 schestowitz[TR2]; no lessons learned?
23:46 schestowitz[TR2]; next thing you know OTHER download tools like curl and wget will use shithub
23:46 schestowitz[TR2]; ;-)
23:46 schestowitz[TR2]; obv. piracy tools
23:46 schestowitz[TR2]; kitchen swiss ARMY KNIFE
23:47 matey; it writes two files...
23:47 TR News; https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/OPNsense_22.7_released.shtml #news
=> ↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/28/OPNsense_22.7_released.shtml
23:47 TR Bot; OPNsense 22.7 released
23:47 matey; (as expected)
23:47 matey; but it tells you its doing so
23:47 XRevan86; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Humpbacked_Horse_(1947_film) "A remake also by Ivanov-Vano and Soyuzmultfilm was released in 1975. This version, translated in English by George Molko, was released on October 25, 1977 as The Magic Pony."
=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Humpbacked_Horse_(1947_film)
23:47 TR Bot; The Humpbacked Horse (1947 film) - Wikipedia
23:48 XRevan86; The Magic Pony :)
23:48 schestowitz[TR2]; curl is also a cracking tool
23:48 schestowitz[TR2]; you can crack things with it
23:48 schestowitz[TR2]; and steal data
23:48 schestowitz[TR2]; not just copyright stuff ("piracy")
23:48 schestowitz[TR2]; ban curl
23:48 matey; v in mplayer enables subtitles...
23:48 schestowitz[TR2]; ban daniel from travelling to the US
23:48 schestowitz[TR2]; curl is used by ISUS!
23:48 schestowitz[TR2]; *ISIS
23:48 XRevan86; "ISUS" <- Jesus
23:48 schestowitz[TR2]; they also have chomsky books
23:50 TR News; 2022-07-28 15:51 New furry art page gemini://nytpu.com/flightlog/
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23:50 matey; mplayer -sub subtitlefile -framedrop file.mp4
23:50 matey; and its actually working
23:50 matey; tada
23:50 matey; a long time ago
23:50 matey; last friday i think
23:51 matey; epic snails
23:51 *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@3mqrk8fvmfdji.irc) has joined #techrights
23:51 DaemonFC; I was having some fun with Libera Chat.
23:52 DaemonFC; I think they had to ban a lot of NordVPN with their automated k-line shit and then I just made a new account.
23:52 schestowitz[TR2]; was the fun reciprocal?
23:52 DaemonFC; No it wasn't.
23:52 DaemonFC; Whatever they do fails to get rid of me for very long.
23:52 matey; in addition he was a poet who composed poems in his free time :)
23:52 matey; and songs such as this one
23:53 TR News; Public Knowledge Welcomes Net Neutrality Bill Bolstering FCCs Ability To Regulate Broadband - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-welcomes-net-neutrality-bill-bolstering-fccs-ability-to-regulate-broadband/ Source: publicknowledge
23:53 TR Bot; Public Knowledge Welcomes Net Neutrality Bill Bolstering FCCs Ability To Regulate Broadband - Public Knowledge
23:54 matey; sign: EXCEEDINGLY TALL OAK TREE
23:56 matey; and who was trespassers will? not even piglet himself knew that
23:58 matey; i dont know how would know this
23:58 matey; but i imagine this is incredibly russian
23:59 XRevan86; matey: This affected your English negatively :D
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