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00:01 TR News; Pipe and Splice blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/pipe-and-splice
00:04 TR News; Purism's new 11-inch Linux tablet runs a full desktop version of PureOS https://www.zdnet.com/article/purisms-new-11-inch-linux-tablet-runs-a-full-desktop-version-of-pureos/
00:04 TR Bot; new 11-inch Linux tablet runs a full desktop version of PureOS | ZDNET
00:04 ZedHedTed; DaemonFC: sure looks like it. theaters were making less money YoY in the late 2010's, then the govt fucked everything up for everyone, and theaters never recovered
00:05 TR News; Underfunded by the 'Linux' Foundation, which spends money openwashing Microsoft instead of supporting Linux https://www.zdnet.com/article/long-term-support-for-linux-kernel-to-be-cut-as-maintainence-remains-under-strain/
00:05 TR Bot; support for Linux kernel to be cut as maintainence remains under strain | ZDNET
00:05 ZedHedTed; 2013 - you had deep greens on every Friday & Saturday all Summer. 2019 - you had mid-to-deep greens every other weekend all Summer.
00:05 ZedHedTed; 2023 - deep greens for only 1 weekend in July.
00:05 TR News; Memory Match Linux Distro Logos https://itsfoss.com/quiz/memory-match-distro-logo/
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00:05 TR Bot; Memory Match Linux Distro Logos
00:06 schestowitz; $20 popcorns
00:06 TR News; Retro arcade device for Raspberry Pi https://linuxgizmos.com/retro-arcade-device-for-raspberry-pi/
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00:06 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/retro-arcade-device-for-raspberry-pi/ )
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00:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz: I can make a bag of popcorn for like 15 cents at home.
00:07 TR News; TUXEDO Announces Nano Pro Gen12 Mini Linux PC Powered by AMD Ryzen 7000U https://9to5linux.com/tuxedo-announces-nano-pro-gen12-mini-linux-pc-powered-by-amd-ryzen-7000u
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00:07 TR Bot; Announces Nano Pro Gen12 Mini Linux PC Powered by AMD Ryzen 7000U - 9to5Linux
00:07 DaemonFC; If you want a movie theater bucket amount, that's maybe 3-4 bags.
00:07 schestowitz; DaemonFC: that's piracy!
00:07 DaemonFC; POPCORN PIRATE!
00:08 DaemonFC; I joked that I'd like to have Starlink for one reason.
00:08 TR News; Never Update Your UEFI BIOS, Especially With LVFS on Linux. Also, systemd-boot is a Plot to Overthrow the PCs Owner. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/09/20/why-you-should-never-update-your-uefi-bios-especially-with-lvfs-on-linux-also-systemd-boot-is-a-plot-to-overthrow-the-pcs-owner/
00:08 TR Bot; Never Update Your UEFI BIOS, Especially With LVFS on Linux. Also, systemd-boot is a Plot to Overthrow the PCs Owner. | BaronHK's Rants
00:08 DaemonFC; So I could add "Space Pirate" to my description.
00:08 DaemonFC; MinceR: ^
00:08 schestowitz; "YOUR POPCORN IS KILLING THE ECCONOMY!"
00:09 MinceR; lol
00:09 DaemonFC; The economy of teenagers making minimum wage popping popcorn for $20 and handing me $8 Pepsis?
00:09 TR News; The return of Simple Network Setup https://bkhome.org/news/202309/the-return-of-simple-network-manager.html
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00:09 TR Bot; The return of Simple Network Setup
00:10 MinceR; you could probably use satellite Internet service ran by someone less crazy to get the same achievement
00:10 TR News; Doubts about Linux rolling releases https://bkhome.org/news/202309/doubts-about-linux-rolling-releases.html
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00:10 TR Bot; Doubts about Linux rolling releases
00:12 TR News; "WASM is a straightforward standard designed for ease of implementation" that kills the Open Web and gives us bloat https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/www-which-wasm-works
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00:12 TR Bot; www which wasm works
00:13 TR News; unifont @ Savannah: Unifont 15.1.02 Released https://savannah.gnu.org/news/?id=10514
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00:13 TR Bot; Unifont - News [Savannah]
00:13 TR News; gettext @ Savannah: GNU gettext 0.22.1 released https://savannah.gnu.org/news/?id=10513
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00:13 TR Bot; GNU gettext - News [Savannah]
00:14 TR News; How to Create and Use Custom Python Module https://tecadmin.net/create-python-module/
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00:14 TR Bot; How to Create and Use Custom Python Module TecAdmin
00:16 TR News; Meet Canonical at India Mobile Congress 2023 https://ubuntu.com//blog/meet-canonical-at-india-mobile-congress-2023
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00:16 TR Bot; Canonical at India Mobile Congress 2023
00:17 TR News; Ubuntu 23.10 Beta is Now Available to Download https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/09/ubuntu-23-10-beta
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00:17 TR Bot; Ubuntu 23.10 Beta is Now Available to Download - OMG! Ubuntu
00:17 TR News; Variable Expansion in ZSH https://tecadmin.net/variable-expansion-in-zsh/
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00:17 TR Bot; Variable Expansion in ZSH TecAdmin
00:19 TR News; What are Microservices? https://tecadmin.net/what-are-microservices/
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00:19 TR Bot; What are Microservices? TecAdmin
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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00:21 TR News; Alan Pope: You did something! https://popey.com/blog/2023/09/you-did-something/
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00:21 TR Bot; You did something! - Alan Pope's blog
00:23 TR News; Alan Pope: Thanks, Mastodon contributors https://popey.com/blog/2023/09/thanks-mastodon-contributors/
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00:23 TR Bot; Thanks, Mastodon contributors - Alan Pope's blog
00:25 TR News; Open source tooling at GITEX Global https://ubuntu.com//blog/open-source-tooling-at-gitex-global
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00:25 TR Bot; source tooling at GITEX Global | Ubuntu
00:26 TR News; itsubuntu? No. It'sWindowsSPAM https://itsubuntu.com/windows-11-security-features-a-comprehensive-overview/
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00:26 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://itsubuntu.com/windows-11-security-features-a-comprehensive-overview/ )
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00:27 TR News; How to Fix an Error Unable to Correct Problems You Have Held Broken Packages https://trendoceans.com/unable-to-correct-problems-you-have-held-broken-packages/
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00:27 TR Bot; How to Fix an Error Unable to Correct Problems You Have Held Broken Packages - TREND OCEANS
00:28 TR News; David Mohammed: Ubuntu Budgie 23.10 Release Notes https://ubuntubudgie.org/2023/09/ubuntu-budgie-23-10-release-notes/
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00:28 TR Bot; Ubuntu Budgie 23.10 Release Notes | Ubuntu Budgie
00:30 TR News; Terrible idea, makes many wrong assumptions https://popey.com/blog/2023/09/the-90mph-office/
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00:30 TR Bot; The 90mph office - Alan Pope's blog
00:31 TR News; Ravi Dwivedi: Debconf23 https://ravidwivedi.in/posts/debconf23/
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00:32 TR Bot; Debconf23
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00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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01:12 sharkey; when I go to the movies they don't usually stop me from bringing my backpack
01:12 sharkey; i usually go to the dollar store and buy a bunch of snacks and make my own popcorn
01:12 sharkey; fill up the backpack
01:13 schestowitz; you can get arrested by the poprcorn police
01:14 sharkey; I don't think I've ever seen any signage that said I couldn't do that
01:15 TR News; The best model checker is your head https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/the-best-model-checker-is-your-head/
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01:15 TR Bot; The best model checker is your head Buttondown
01:16 TR News; ORG warns of threat to privacy and free speech as Online Safety Bill is passed https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-releases/org-warns-of-threat-to-privacy-and-free-speech-as-online-safety-bill-is-passed/
01:16 TR Bot; ORG warns of threat to privacy and free speech as Online Safety Bill is passed | Open Rights Group
01:17 TR News; The Modem Tax https://tedium.co/2023/09/22/fcc-landlines-modem-tax/
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01:17 TR Bot; The Modem Tax: An Urban Legend With The Ring Of Truth
01:19 TR News; GStreamer: GStreamer 1.22.6 stable bug fix release https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/news/#2023-09-20T20:00:00Z
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01:19 TR Bot; GStreamer: news
01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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01:20 TR News; Dev snapshot: Godot 4.2 dev 5 https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-2-dev-5/
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01:20 TR Bot; Dev snapshot: Godot 4.2 dev 5
01:21 TR News; PREDATOR IN THE WIRES: Ahmed Eltantawy Targeted with Predator Spyware After Announcing Presidential Ambitions https://citizenlab.ca/2023/09/predator-in-the-wires-ahmed-eltantawy-targeted-with-predator-spyware-after-announcing-presidential-ambitions/
01:21 TR Bot; PREDATOR IN THE WIRES: Ahmed Eltantawy Targeted with Predator Spyware After Announcing Presidential Ambitions - The Citizen Lab
01:22 TR News; Apple Patches 3 Zero-Days Likely Exploited by Spyware Vendor to Hack iPhones https://www.securityweek.com/apple-patches-3-zero-days-likely-exploited-by-spyware-vendor-to-hack-iphones/
01:22 TR Bot; Patches 3 Zero-Days Likely Exploited by Spyware Vendor to Hack iPhones - SecurityWeek
01:22 TR News; Obfuscated Scans for Older Adobe Experience Manager Vulnerabilities, (Tue, Sep 19th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/30230
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01:22 TR Bot; Obfuscated Scans for Older Adobe Experience Manager Vulnerabilities - SANS Internet Storm Center
01:22 TR News; New Sandman APT Group Hitting Telcos With Rare LuaJIT Malware https://www.securityweek.com/new-sandman-apt-group-hitting-telcos-with-rare-luajit-malware/
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01:22 TR Bot; 'Sandman' APT Group Hitting Telcos With Rare LuaJIT Malware - SecurityWeek
01:24 DaemonFC; schestowitz: Still working on this a little.
01:24 DaemonFC; But basically done.
01:24 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/09/24/almost-everyone-involved-with-gnome-gtk-is-part-of-the-troll-farm-also-more-on-libera-chat/
01:24 TR Bot; Almost Everyone Involved With GNOME/GTK is Part of the Troll Farm. Also, More on Libera Chat. | BaronHK's Rants
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01:26 DaemonFC; Still fixing some issues.
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01:34 TR News; Phone scams conducted using PayPals own invoicing service https://www.netcraft.com/blog/phone-scams-conducted-using-paypals-own-invoicing-service/
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01:34 TR Bot; scams conducted using PayPals own invoicing service | Netcraft
01:34 DaemonFC; Still working...
01:34 TR News; Scam victim loses more than 6,000 after buying an 8 camera on eBay https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/scam-victim-loses-more-than-6000-after-buying-an-8-camera-on-ebay-aMWq19Z2BnUb
01:34 TR Bot; Scam victim loses more than 6,000 after buying an 8 camera on eBay - Which? News
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01:41 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2023/09/24/womans-two-boyfriends-get-into-fight-leading-to-one-pistol-whipping-the-other-in-waukegan/
01:41 TR Bot; Woman's two boyfriends get into fight, leading to one pistol-whipping the other in Waukegan
01:41 DaemonFC; schestowitz: These are the people who complain that immigrants are taking their job.
01:42 schestowitz; sometimes that happens
01:42 schestowitz; sometimes it's a red heerring
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01:44 TR News; Automobile workers union lodges complaint against US senator https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/09/automobile-workers-labor-union-lodges-complaint-against-us-senator/
01:44 TR Bot; Automobile workers union lodges complaint against US senator - JURIST - News
01:45 TR News; South Korea opposition leader ends 24-day hunger strike https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/south-korea-opposition-leader-ends-24-day-hunger-strike
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01:45 TR Bot; South Korea opposition leader ends 24-day hunger strike | The Straits Times
01:46 TR News; The Right to Strike Underutilised by Workers in the Technology Sector https://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/23
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01:46 TR Bot; NO TITLE
01:46 TR News; Workers expand strike against automakers amid dueling visions https://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2023/0922/Workers-expand-strike-against-automakers-amid-dueling-visions
01:46 TR Bot; expands strike against automakers amid dueling visions - CSMonitor.com
01:46 TR News; An Ohio Town Struggles Between Bidens Clean Energy Agenda and Union Support https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/23/us/politics/biden-electric-vehicles-uaw.html
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01:46 TR Bot; An Ohio Town Struggles Between Bidens Clean Energy Agenda and Union Support - The New York Times
01:46 TR News; UAW Strike: Biden to Visit Michigan to Support Autoworkers on Picket Line https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/22/us/politics/uaw-biden-shawn-fain.html
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01:46 TR Bot; UAW Strike: Biden to Visit Michigan to Support Autoworkers on Picket Line - The New York Times
01:47 TR News; Justice Ministry seeks to strike openly fascist party from register https://yle.fi/a/74-20051480
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01:47 TR Bot; Justice Ministry seeks to strike openly fascist party from register | News | Yle Uutiset
01:47 TR News; Progress in Hollywood Writers Strike Negotiations, but No Deal Yet https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/23/business/media/hollywood-writers-strike-negotiations.html
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01:47 TR Bot; Progress in Hollywood Writers Strike Negotiations, but No Deal Yet - The New York Times
01:47 TR News; Is Work the American Disease? https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/22/opinion/work-labor-strikes.html
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01:47 TR Bot; Opinion | Is Work the American Disease? - The New York Times
01:48 TR News; Tim Scott Invokes Ronald Reagan and Says UAW Strikers Should Be Fired https://reason.com/2023/09/20/tim-scott-invokes-ronald-reagan-and-says-uaw-strikers-should-be-fired/
01:48 TR Bot; Tim Scott Says UAW Strikers Should Be Fired, Invoking Ronald Reagan
01:48 TR News; The Obvious Warning Sign https://tedium.co/2023/09/19/unity-digital-economy-warning-signs/
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01:48 TR Bot; Unitys Developer Royalty Drama Is A Digital Economy Red Flag
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01:50 TR News; US, UK strike data transfer agreement https://cyberscoop.com/us-uk-data-transfer-agreement/
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01:50 TR Bot; UK strike data transfer agreement | CyberScoop
01:50 TR News; Impact of UAW Strike Against Big Three US Automakers Spreading https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Impact-of-UAW-Strike-Against-Big-Three-US-Automakers-Spreading-20230921-0004.html
01:50 TR Bot; Impact of UAW Strike Against Big Three US Automakers Spreading | News | teleSUR English
01:51 TR News; Ford avoids Canada walkout as UAW prepares for more US auto strikes https://nypost.com/2023/09/20/ford-avoids-canada-walkout-as-uaw-prepares-for-more-us-auto-strikes/
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01:51 TR Bot; Ford avoids Canada walkout as UAW prepares for more US auto strikes
01:52 TR News; Network Lobotomy https://tedium.co/2023/09/20/the-cw-nexstar-revamp/
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01:52 TR Bot; The CW Is Changing. It Might Hint At Broadcasts Future
01:54 TR News; UMich experts talk UAW strike, potential impact on Washtenaw County https://www.michigandaily.com/news/business/umich-experts-talk-uaw-strike-potential-impact-on-washtenaw-county/
01:54 TR Bot; UAW strikes, UMich experts talk Michigan impact
01:54 TR News; Long Way to Go Before Deals Reached to End Strike in Detroit https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Long-Way-to-Go-Before-Deals-Reached-to-End-Strike-in-Detroit-20230919-0001.html
01:54 TR Bot; NO TITLE
01:55 TR News; Helsinki high schoolers also strike over looming budget cuts https://yle.fi/a/74-20051045
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01:55 TR Bot; Helsinki high schoolers also strike over looming budget cuts | News | Yle Uutiset
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01:56 TR News; "Autoworkers want, and deserve, a big raise." https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/20/opinion/uaw-strike-economy-biden.html
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01:56 TR Bot; Opinion | The United Auto Workers Will Lose. I Worry for Our Economy and for President Biden. - The New York Times
01:56 TR News; U.A.W. Threatens Strikes at More Plants https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/19/business/economy/uaw-strikes-gm-ford-stellantis.html
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01:56 TR Bot; U.A.W. Threatens Strikes at More Plants - The New York Times
01:57 TR News; "secret justice for rapists" https://pressgazette.co.uk/media_law/sex-offence-victims-privacy-court/
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01:57 TR Bot; Journalists oppose proposal for private evidence in sex offence trials - Press Gazette
01:59 TR News; Producing real change: key highlights of our results http://privacyinternational.org/long-read/5144/producing-real-change-key-highlights-our-results
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01:59 TR Bot; Producing real change: key highlights of our results | Privacy International
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
01:59 TR News; "in the trial she stood for "violating the privacy of personal life" for sharing a video that a Munzur University faculty member posted on her WhatsApp status" https://www.bianet.org/english/freedom-of-expression/284344-fast-track-appeal-from-prosecutor-to-acquittal-of-bianet-correspondent
01:59 TR Bot; Fast-track appeal from prosecutor to acquittal of bianet correspondent - english
02:00 TR News; FTC nominees urge Congress to pass federal data privacy law https://cyberscoop.com/ftc-nominees-federal-data-privacy-law/
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02:00 TR Bot; nominees urge Congress to pass federal data privacy law | CyberScoop
02:00 TR News; Privacy Internationals Briefing on the Draft Text of the UN Cybercrime Convention http://privacyinternational.org/advocacy/5143/privacy-internationals-briefing-draft-text-un-cybercrime-convention
02:00 TR Bot; Privacy Internationals Briefing on the Draft Text of the UN Cybercrime Convention | Privacy International
02:01 TR News; Freecycle Network suffers breach, users told to change passwords https://itwire.com/security/freecycle-network-suffers-breach,-users-told-to-change-passwords.html
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02:01 TR Bot; - Freecycle Network suffers breach, users told to change passwords
02:02 TR News; Real child protection instead of Big Brother scanning: 5-point plan for the deadlocked EU Council negotiations on child sexual abuse bill (chat control) https://www.patrick-breyer.de/real-child-protection-instead-of-big-brother-scanning-5-point-plan-for-the-deadlocked-eu-council-negotiations-on-child-sexual-abuse-bill-chat-control/
02:02 TR Bot; Real child protection instead of Big Brother scanning: 5-point plan for the deadlocked EU Council negotiations on child sexual abuse bill (chat control) Patrick Breyer
02:02 TR News; Britain Passes Sweeping New Online Safety Law https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/19/technology/britain-online-safety-law.html
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02:02 TR Bot; Britain Passes Sweeping New Online Safety Law - The New York Times
02:03 TR News; Official: Allegation of Indias link to Sikhs killing based on human and surveillance intelligence https://federalnewsnetwork.com/world-news/2023/09/india-suspends-visa-services-in-canada-and-rift-widens-over-killing-of-canadian-citizen/
02:03 TR Bot; Surveillance of Indian diplomats in Canada led to allegations around Sikh killing, official says | Federal News Network
02:03 TR News; Introducing the Librem 11 https://puri.sm/posts/introducing-the-librem-11/
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02:03 TR Bot; Introducing the Librem 11 Purism
02:04 TR News; Huawei subsidiary ships advanced surveillance camera chips in another sign its skirting US sanctions https://siliconangle.com/2023/09/20/huawei-subsidiary-ships-advanced-surveillance-camera-chips-another-sign-skirting-us-sanctions/
02:04 TR Bot; subsidiary ships advanced surveillance camera chips in another sign it's skirting US sanctions - SiliconANGLE
02:05 TR News; EU lawmakers must regulate the harmful use of tech by law enforcement in the AI Act https://edri.org/our-work/civil-society-statement-regulate-police-tech-ai-act/
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02:05 TR Bot; EU lawmakers must regulate the harmful use of tech by law enforcement in the AI Act - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
02:05 TR News; UN report says border surveillance technology and decision algorithms may endanger human rights https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/09/un-reports-impact-of-digital-border-technologies-on-human-rights/
02:05 TR Bot; UN report says border surveillance technology and decision algorithms may endanger human rights - JURIST - News
02:06 TR News; Oracle Bets on Graal to Run Cloud-Native Java Apps Faster https://cloudnativenow.com/topics/cloudnativedevelopment/oracle-bets-on-graal-to-run-cloud-native-java-apps-faster/
02:06 TR Bot; Oracle Bets on Graal to Run Cloud-Native Java Apps Faster - Cloud Native Now
02:07 TR News; Not Your Grandpas Packet Filter: eBPF in Cloud-Native Networking https://cloudnativenow.com/topics/not-your-grandpas-packet-filter-ebpf-in-cloud-native-networking/
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02:07 TR Bot; Not Your Grandpas Packet Filter: eBPF in Cloud-Native Networking - Cloud Native Now
02:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz: There's almost no reason left to use GTK.
02:07 DaemonFC; Outside of GNOME, it's used minimally, by like Firefox and SeaMonkey.
02:07 TR News; How to Install MongoDB on CentOS https://vitux.com/centos-mongodb/
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02:07 TR Bot; to Install MongoDB on CentOS - VITUX
02:08 TR News; Fedora Community Blog: CPE Weekly update Week 38 2023 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-38-2023/
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02:08 TR Bot; CPE Weekly update Week 38 2023 Fedora Community Blog
02:09 TR News; CentOS Board Meeting Recap, September 2023 https://blog.centos.org/2023/09/centos-board-meeting-recap-september-2023/
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02:09 TR Bot; Board Meeting Recap, September 2023 Blog.CentOS.org
02:09 TR News; Red Hat Previews OpenStack Integration With OpenShift Platform https://cloudnativenow.com/topics/cloudnativedevelopment/red-hat-previews-openstack-integration-with-openshift-platform/
02:09 TR Bot; Red Hat Previews OpenStack Integration With OpenShift Platform - Cloud Native Now
02:09 TR News; Red Hat Previews OpenShift Platform for AI Models https://cloudnativenow.com/topics/cloudnativedevelopment/red-hat-previews-openshift-platform-for-ai-models/
02:10 TR Bot; Red Hat Previews OpenShift Platform for AI Models - Cloud Native Now
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02:11 TR News; "In the software development world, we call it technical debt." https://adam.younglogic.com/2023/09/make-haste-slowly/
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02:11 DaemonFC; schestowitz: https://stopthemingmy.app/
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02:11 TR Bot; Make Haste Slowly | Adam Young's Web Log
02:11 TR Bot; Please dont theme our apps
02:13 DaemonFC; "
02:13 TR News; Adam Young: Finding a line of code in the Kernel from a stack trace http://adam.younglogic.com/2023/09/finding-a-line-of-code-in-the-kernel-from-a-stack-trace/
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02:13 DaemonFC; This is why we ask respectfully that our applications not be themed. They are built and tested for the upstream GNOME stylesheet, icons, and fonts, so thats what they should look like on peoples systems.
02:13 TR Bot; Finding a line of code in the Kernel from a stack trace | Adam Young's Web Log
02:13 DaemonFC; Though we could disable theming directly in our apps, we do not want to resort to this. We believe that a technical solution would likely not be effective, because this is not a technical problem.
02:13 DaemonFC; Threats to make it "impossible". Like Windows? Where you have to hack a dll?
02:14 MinceR; maybe they could turn them into SaaSS :>
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02:49 TR News; Network testing with testpmd and noisy_vnf https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2023/09/21/network-testing-testpmd-and-noisyvnf
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02:49 TR Bot; Network testing with testpmd and noisy_vnf | Red Hat Developer
02:50 TR News; Red Hat rebrands OpenStack Platform for building and managing private clouds https://siliconangle.com/2023/09/19/red-hat-rebrands-openstack-platform-building-managing-private-clouds/
02:50 TR Bot; Hat rebrands OpenStack Platform for building and managing private clouds - SiliconANGLE
02:50 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-240923.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-240923.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-240923.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-240923.txt
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02:50 TR News; DNS is the new BGP https://blog.apnic.net/2023/09/22/dns-is-the-new-bgp/
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02:50 TR Bot; DNS is the new BGP | APNIC Blog
02:50 TR News; APNIC celebrates 30 years: Part 3 The beginnings of address policy https://blog.apnic.net/2023/09/21/apnic-celebrates-30-years-part-3-the-beginnings-of-address-policy/
02:50 TR Bot; APNIC celebrates 30 years: Part 3 The beginnings of address policy | APNIC Blog
02:50 TR News; Dual subsea cable cuts disrupt African Internet https://blog.apnic.net/2023/09/20/dual-subsea-cable-cuts-disrupt-african-internet/
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02:50 TR Bot; Dual subsea cable cuts disrupt African Internet | APNIC Blog
02:51 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2023-09-24.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2023-09-24.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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02:54 TR News; Can Ghanas Debt Trap of Crisis and Bailouts Be Stopped? https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/18/business/economy/ghana-debt-imf.html
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02:54 TR Bot; Can Ghanas Debt Trap of Crisis and Bailouts Be Stopped? - The New York Times
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02:55 TR News; 20 Open-source Self-hosted Web Analytics Solution Alternative to Google Analytics https://medevel.com/20-os-web-analytics/
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02:55 TR Bot; 20 Open-source Self-hosted Web Analytics Solution Alternative to Google Analytics
02:56 TR News; Recap of Second Enterprise Working Group Meeting https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/recap-of-second-enterprise-working-group-meeting/
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02:56 TR Bot; Recap of Second Enterprise Working Group Meeting FreeBSD Foundation
02:57 TR News; Fortinet Patches High-Severity Vulnerabilities in FortiOS, FortiProxy, FortiWeb Products https://www.securityweek.com/fortinet-patches-high-severity-vulnerabilities-in-fortios-fortiproxy-fortiweb-products/
02:57 TR Bot; Patches High-Severity Vulnerabilities in FortiOS, FortiProxy, FortiWeb Products - SecurityWeek
02:58 TR News; The Rust Programming Language Blog: crates.io Policy Update RFC https://blog.rust-lang.org/2023/09/22/crates-io-usage-policy-rfc.html
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02:58 TR Bot; crates.io Policy Update RFC | Rust Blog
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
03:02 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 497518 total Total number of pages in capsule: 48608 Active: active (running) since Wed 2023-09-20 14:56:51 BST; 4 days ago
03:03 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.
03:04 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:04 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/09/25/gtk-applications-are-largely-irrelevant/
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03:04 TR Bot; GTK Applications Are Largely Irrelevant. | BaronHK's Rants
03:04 DaemonFC; schestowitz: ^
03:04 schestowitz; checking
03:05 TR News; The Rust Programming Language Blog: Announcing Rust 1.72.1 https://blog.rust-lang.org/2023/09/19/Rust-1.72.1.html
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03:05 TR Bot; Announcing Rust 1.72.1 | Rust Blog
03:06 TR News; "Richard Hainsworth has been working a lot on improving the search functionality of the documentation of the Raku Programming Language, and has a prototype working waiting to be tested by you" https://rakudoweekly.blog/2023/09/18/2023-38-new-search/
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03:06 TR Bot; 2023.38 New Search Rakudo Weekly News
03:06 DaemonFC; Fixing a bit.
03:07 TR News; Joey Hess: Haskell webassembly in the browser http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/Haskell_webassembly_in_the_browser/
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03:07 TR Bot; Haskell webassembly in the browser
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03:07 TR News; Java 21 gets 15 major enhancements and long-term support https://siliconangle.com/2023/09/19/java-21-gets-15-major-enhancements-long-term-support/
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03:07 TR Bot; 21 gets 15 major enhancements and long-term support - SiliconANGLE
03:08 DaemonFC; Fixed some stuff.
03:08 TR News; How to Use Jupyter Notebook: Beginners Tutorial https://www.debugpoint.com/jupyter-notebook-tutorial/
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03:08 TR Bot; stream 1 was not closed cleanly: PROTOCOL_ERROR (err 1) ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/jupyter-notebook-tutorial/ )
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03:08 sharkey; most gui frameworks are irrelevant
03:08 sharkey; TUI is the best
03:08 TR News; Industry automation? Theres an app for that! With FLECS and Portenta X8 https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/09/22/industry-automation-theres-an-app-for-that-with-flecs-and-portenta-x8/
03:08 TR Bot; Industry automation? Theres an app for that! With FLECS and Portenta X8 | Arduino Blog
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03:09 DaemonFC; GTK extends the "GNOME Branding" into other desktops.
03:09 DaemonFC; It's very gross.
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03:13 sharkey; its all concerning
03:14 sharkey; nothing beats curses
03:14 sharkey; why anyone would need over 1000 megs of ram is just mind boggling
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03:18 lundy; nothing beats curses <- ansi
03:19 lundy; ansi is more cross platform
03:19 lundy; curses has different implementations afaik
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03:22 sharkey; enlightenment e16 is light enough to run on a 486
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03:22 sharkey; these new fancy desktops are so bloated
03:24 sharkey; then you find out gnome's gui is written in javascript, no wonder it uses 1500 megs of ram
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03:25 sharkey; planned obsolescence
03:26 lundy; pretty soon youll have to run gnome desktop on one computer, and have it run all your applications on the other
03:26 lundy; hey ive got a beowulf cluster
03:26 lundy; whats it running?
03:27 lundy; gnome!
03:32 TR News; Techrights GNOME and GTK Taking Freedom Away From Users http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/GNOME_and_GTK_Taking_Freedom_Away_From_Users.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/GNOME_and_GTK_Taking_Freedom_Away_From_Users.gmi
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03:32 TR Bot; Techrights GNOME and GTK Taking Freedom Away From Users
03:33 TR News; Techrights Purge of Software Freedom and Its Voices http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Purge_of_Software_Freedom_and_Its_Voices.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Purge_of_Software_Freedom_and_Its_Voices.gmi
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03:33 TR Bot; Techrights Purge of Software Freedom and Its Voices
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03:54 sharkey; this 486 will eventually stop working
03:54 sharkey; if it lasts another ten years I will be happy
03:54 lundy; someone will make a homemade 486 on a chip eventually
03:54 sharkey; RISC-V looks good, if it really doesn't have backdoors, sidedoors and front doors
03:55 lundy; or moonroof
03:56 sharkey; moonroof?
03:57 lundy; i mean i wouldnt put it past them
03:57 lundy; they already have backdoors and sidedoors
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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04:08 TR News; Snagboot: Designing a USB recovery process for AM335x SoCs https://bootlin.com/blog/snagboot-designing-a-usb-recovery-process-for-am335x-socs/
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04:08 TR Bot; Designing a USB recovery process for AM335x SoCs - Bootlin's blog
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04:08 TR News; "lower-cost alternative to the Raspberry Pi CM4-based Home Assistant Yellow gateway." https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/09/20/home-assistant-green-low-cost-home-assistant-gateway-beginners/
04:09 TR Bot; Home Assistant Green - A $99 Home Assistant gateway with a Rockchip RK3566 processor - CNX Software
04:09 TR News; Perfecting Open Source Recipes in Paris https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/news-and-events/perfecting-open-source-recipes-in-paris.html
04:09 TR Bot; Perfecting Open Source Recipes in Paris
04:09 TR News; Microsoft exposed 38TB of private data on GitHub: Wiz researchers https://itwire.com/security/microsoft-exposed-38tb-of-private-data-on-github-wiz-researchers.html
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04:09 TR Bot; - Microsoft exposed 38TB of private data on GitHub: Wiz researchers
04:10 TR News; Dolby EP patent successfully challenged at the EPO https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/9/19/dolby-ep-patent-successfully-challenged-at-the-epo
04:10 TR Bot; Dolby EP patent successfully challenged at the EPO Unified Patents
04:12 TR News; CISA, like NIST, actually strives for back doors in things (so long as it controls these) https://www.techrepublic.com/article/cisa-open-source-security-roadmap/
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04:12 TR Bot; CISA Aims For More Robust Open Source Software Security for Government and Critical Infrastructure
04:12 TR News; OT/IoT and OpenTitan, an Open Source Silicon Root of Trust https://www.securityweek.com/ot-iot-and-opentitan-an-open-source-silicon-root-of-trust/
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04:12 TR Bot; and OpenTitan, an Open Source Silicon Root of Trust - SecurityWeek
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04:22 TR News; "SUSE has a particularly deep relationship with SAP" https://www.suse.com/c/rise-with-sap-and-suse-a-formidable-combination/
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04:22 TR Bot; with SAP and SUSE: A Formidable Combination | SUSE Communities
04:24 TR News; Steinar H. Gunderson: Hash table reductions http://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2023-09-18-23-54_hash_table_reductions.html
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04:24 TR Bot; Steinar H. Gunderson
04:25 TR News; Mike Blumenkrantz: Tis The Season https://www.supergoodcode.com/tis-the-season/
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04:25 TR Bot; Tis The Season Mike Blumenkrantz Super. Good. Code.
04:25 TR News; Kurdish journalist Sedat Ylmaz faces 'terror' charges over 'lack of banking transactions,' social media activities https://www.bianet.org/english/freedom-of-expression/284392-kurdish-journalist-sedat-yilmaz-faces-terror-charges-over-lack-of-banking-transactions-social-media-activities
04:25 TR Bot; Kurdish journalist Sedat Ylmaz faces 'terror' charges over 'lack of banking transactions,' social media activities - english
04:26 TR News; Of banks, supermarkets and the market economy https://eng.lsm.lv/article/features/commentary/20.09.2023-of-banks-supermarkets-and-the-market-economy.a524543/
04:26 TR Bot; Of banks, supermarkets and the market economy / Article
04:26 TR News; Real Estate Crisis Triggers New Alarms Over Chinas Shadow Banks https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/22/business/china-economy-trusts-zhongrong-zhongzhi.html
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04:26 TR Bot; Real Estate Crisis Triggers New Alarms Over Chinas Shadow Banks - The New York Times
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04:33 TR News; UPC is illegal. Helsinki had a patent office run by a convicted criminal. What sort of patent system is this when run by criminals? JUVE, this publisher, also pockets bribes to promote this unconstitutional and illegal system. https://www.juve-patent.com/cases/helsinki-local-division-scrutinises-upc-opt-out-process-in-aim-sport-vs-supponor/
04:33 TR Bot; Helsinki local division scrutinises UPC opt-out process in AIM Sport vs. Supponor - JUVE Patent
04:34 TR News; Aeritas mobile notification patent claims cancelled https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/9/21/aeritas-patent-claims-cancelled
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04:34 TR Bot; Aeritas mobile notification patent claims cancelled Unified Patents
04:34 TR News; Patent case: Judgment no. 18/2023 of Madrid Court of Appeals (Section 32) of 23 June 2023, Spain https://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2023/09/22/patent-case-judgment-no-18-2023-of-madrid-court-of-appeals-section-32-of-23-june-2023-spain/
04:34 TR Bot; Patent case: Judgment no. 18/2023 of Madrid Court of Appeals (Section 32) of 23 June 2023, Spain - Kluwer Patent Blog
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04:36 TR News; Front page of https://www.linux.com/ still broken. Has been broken for days already. They're not fixing it.
04:36 TR Bot; - News For Open Source Professionals
04:37 TR News; NOT Linux https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/announcing-unified-acceleration-foundation-uxl
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04:37 TR Bot; Unified Acceleration Foundation Forms to Drive Open Accelerated Compute and Cross-Platform Performance
04:37 TR News; Also not Linux https://www.linuxfoundation.org/blog/world-of-open-source-europe-spotlight-2023-why-it-matters-and-what-it-reveals
04:37 TR Bot; World of Open Source Europe Spotlight 2023: Why It Matters and What It Reveals
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04:38 TR News; Buzzwords instead of Linux https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/lf-edge-launches-new-sandbox-to-accelerate-code-deployment-of-open-source-edge-and-iot-technologies
04:38 TR Bot; LF Edge Launches New Sandbox to Accelerate Code Deployment of Open Source Edge and IoT Technologies
04:40 TR News; Not about Linux, either https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/linux-foundation-and-etsi-further-collaborate-to-drive-harmonization-across-open-source-and-open-standards https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/linux-foundation-telco-api-project-camara-graduates-to-funded-model-with-strong-industry-commitment
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04:40 TR Bot; Linux Foundation and ETSI Further Collaborate to Drive Harmonization Across Open Source and Open Standards
04:40 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Telco API Project, CAMARA, Graduates to Funded Model with Strong Industry Commitment
04:41 TR News; UPC is illegal and unconstitutional, but JUVE got bribed to promote this illegal system, which deepens the EPO crisis and makes the EU complicit https://www.juve-patent.com/cases/10x-genomics-and-bardehle-win-upc-pi-against-nanostring/
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04:41 TR Bot; 10x Genomics and Bardehle win UPC PI against NanoString - JUVE Patent
04:42 TR News; Frivolous litigation and bogus patents again https://www.juve-patent.com/cases/basic-holdings-and-dla-piper-secure-infringement-decision-over-decorative-fireplaces/
04:42 TR Bot; Basic Holdings and DLA Piper secure infringement decision over decorative fireplaces - JUVE Patent
04:43 lundy; they would patent fire if they could
04:43 TR News; Avanci is a malicious patent troll, but this site is funded by the patent litigation cartel, so it won't inform readers of simple facts https://www.juve-patent.com/people-and-business/bmw-takes-avanci-licence-after-patent-pool-launches-5g-vehicle-programme/
04:43 TR Bot; BMW takes Avanci licence after patent pool launches 5G vehicle programme - JUVE Patent
04:43 lundy; youd need a license to scuff your feet and touch a doorknob
04:44 TR News; Fortress entity, Entropic, broadcast cable patent challenged https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/9/21/fortress-entity-entropic-communications-wideband-receiver-patent-challenged
04:44 TR Bot; Fortress entity, Entropic, broadcast cable patent challenged Unified Patents
04:44 lundy; or to use a magnifying glass to focus the sun
04:44 TR News; Input on the United States Government National Standards Strategy for CET (Part 1) https://www.patentprogress.org/2023/09/input-on-the-united-states-government-national-standards-strategy-for-cet-part-1/
04:44 TR Bot; Input on the United States Government National Standards Strategy for CET (Part 1) - Patent Progress
04:46 TR News; Injuction using a system that is both illegal and unconstitutional. The criminals have, in effect, taken over "law enforcement". https://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2023/09/20/upc-grants-10x-genomics-preliminary-injunction-nanostring-appeals/
04:46 TR Bot; UPC grants 10x Genomics preliminary injunction, NanoString appeals - Kluwer Patent Blog
04:46 TR News; How Prosecution History Can Support a Motivation to Combine https://patentlyo.com/patent/2023/09/prosecution-history-motivation.html
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04:46 TR Bot; How Prosecution History Can Support a Motivation to Combine | Patently-O
04:46 TR News; Federal Circuit Suspends Judge Newman for Refusing Mental Exam https://patentlyo.com/patent/2023/09/federal-suspends-refusing.html
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04:46 TR Bot; Federal Circuit Suspends Judge Newman for Refusing Mental Exam | Patently-O
04:47 TR News; Sonos Scores Major Win vs. Google at U.S. International Trade Tribunal https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/09/19/sonos-us-international-trade-tribunal/
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04:47 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/09/19/sonos-us-international-trade-tribunal/ )
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04:48 TR News; INPI exported a lot of crime and corruption to the EPO; now we have cartel-bribed publishers like JUVE issuing this waffle https://www.juve-patent.com/cases/supreme-court-shows-inpi-the-way-to-harmonisation-with-epo-regulation/
04:48 TR Bot; Supreme Court shows INPI the way to harmonisation with EPO regulation - JUVE Patent
04:48 TR News; Enabled to Claim the Unknown? Federal Circuit applies Amgen v. Sanofi to invalidate broad antibody claims https://patentlyo.com/patent/2023/09/enabled-invalidate-antibody.html
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04:48 TR Bot; Enabled to Claim the Unknown? Federal Circuit applies Amgen v. Sanofi to invalidate broad antibody claims | Patently-O
04:51 TR News; Jussi Pakkanen: Circles do not exist https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2023/09/circles-do-not-exist.html
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04:52 TR Bot; Nibble Stew: Circles do not exist
04:54 TR News; Sebastian Wick: On the Usefulness of SO_PEERPIDFD https://blog.sebastianwick.net/posts/so-peerpidfd-usefulness/
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04:54 TR Bot; On the Usefulness of SO_PEERPIDFD - swick's blog
04:56 TR News; "Signatories to the letter include the editors of The Sun, The Guardian, the FT and Private Eye." https://pressgazette.co.uk/media_law/slapps-editors-kings-speech-standalone-bill/
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04:56 TR Bot; UK's top editors call for standalone anti-SLAPP bill
04:58 TR News; The Biden administration tried to censor this Stanford doctor, but he won in court https://nypost.com/2023/09/20/how-dr-jay-bhattacharya-beat-biden-administration-censorship/
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04:58 TR Bot; How Dr. Jay Bhattacharya beat Biden administration censorship
04:59 TR News; Indian film flags importance of sex education in schools, but kids not allowed to watch it https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/south-asia/meet-the-indian-teenager-who-is-unable-to-watch-the-film-he-has-acted-in
04:59 TR Bot; Indian film flags importance of sex education in schools, but kids not allowed to watch it | The Straits Times
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
04:59 TR News; Censorship on award-winning children's book https://www.bianet.org/english/freedom-of-expression/284154-censorship-on-award-winning-children-s-book
04:59 TR Bot; Censorship on award-winning children's book - Hikmet Adal - english
05:00 TR News; The Talospace Project: Progress on the Firefox ppc64le JIT https://www.talospace.com/2023/09/progress-on-firefox-ppc64le-jit.html
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05:00 TR Bot; Progress on the Firefox ppc64le JIT
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05:02 TR News; Waterfox claims to no longer be owned by a spying company, System1 http://www.zenwalk.org/2023/09/waterfox-new-way-to-go-for-browsing.html
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05:02 TR Bot; Zenwalk GNU Linux: Waterfox : the new way to go for browsing ?
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05:03 TR News; Techrights United Workforce Always Better for the Workers http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/United_Workforce_Always_Better_for_the_Workers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/United_Workforce_Always_Better_for_the_Workers.gmi
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05:03 TR Bot; Techrights United Workforce Always Better for the Workers
05:03 TR News; Tantek elik: W3C Technical Plenary and Advisory Committee (TPAC) Meetings 2023 https://tantek.com/2023/262/b1/w3c-technical-plenary-tpac
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05:03 TR Bot; Technical Plenary and Advisory Committee (TPAC) Meetings 2023 - Tantek
05:04 TR News; Cameron Kaiser: Google ending Basic HTML support for Gmail in 2024 http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2023/09/google-ending-basic-html-support-for.html
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05:04 TR Bot; TenFourFox Development: Google ending Basic HTML support for Gmail in 2024
05:05 TR News; Niko Matsakis: New Layout, and now using Hugo! https://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2023/09/19/new-layout/
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05:05 TR Bot; New Layout, and now using Hugo! baby steps
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05:17 sharkey; I used the sun and a magnifying glass to burn ants
05:17 sharkey; what is this, the center for ants?
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05:20 lundy; if you use a magnifying glass with the moon instead the ants dont die
05:20 lundy; they just get lounge chairs and use it to tan
05:20 lundy; it only works on lighter coloured ants obviously
05:20 sharkey; do the ants have crystals that they can charge in the moonlight?
05:21 lundy; yeah, grains of sugar
05:21 lundy; thats why theyre always carrying them around for pagan rituals
05:21 lundy; then they make them into offerings for the ant christ
05:22 lundy; not to be confused with the antichrist
05:22 lundy; he died on an asterisk
05:37 schestowitz; :-)
05:37 schestowitz; wore it as a crown
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06:42 schestowitz; hi zenon
06:42 zenon; Hi Roy
06:46 zenon; I wrote you about rss feed change after upgrade yesterday . The RSS feed change in thunderbird RSS Feed. Now I can see only "Links for the day" and not full page like before upgrade. :-(
06:47 zenon; It is possible to switch to old view?
06:49 schestowitz; i got the mesage
06:49 schestowitz; but you had left already
06:49 schestowitz; the old view was full text rss
06:54 zenon; Sorry I close tab. Yes, full text rss was great example I can searching in thunderbird for some text or links app names and other thinks. Is possible switch to full rss like before upgrade?
06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
06:59 schestowitz; not without changing how the static page generator works
07:01 lundy; WELCOME!
07:01 lundy; YOUVE GOT MAIL!
07:02 *lundy clicks on My AOL
07:03 lundy; its really just a drink coaster now
07:05 TR News; Techrights Privacy is Not a Crime, Reporting Hidden Facts Is Not a Crime Either http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Privacy_is_Not_a_Crime_Reporting_Hidden_Facts_Is_Not_a_Crime_Either.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Privacy_is_Not_a_Crime_Reporting_Hidden_Facts_Is_Not_a_Crime_Either.gmi
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07:05 TR Bot; Techrights Privacy is Not a Crime, Reporting Hidden Facts Is Not a Crime Either
07:05 TR News; Techrights Another Copyright Lawsuit Against Microsoft (or its Proxy) for Misuse of Large Works by Chatbot http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Another_Copyright_Lawsuit_Against_Microsoft_or_its_Proxy_for_Mi.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Another_Copyright_Lawsuit_Against_Microsoft_or_its_Proxy_for_Mi.gmi
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07:05 TR Bot; Techrights Another Copyright Lawsuit Against Microsoft (or its Proxy) for Misuse of Large Works by Chatbot
07:05 zenon; jop :-(
07:05 zenon; https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mn3hu2XE2qZjhIlOYkAni__5hppi9ydU/view?usp=sharing
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07:05 TR Bot; Before_upgrade.png - Google Drive
07:05 TR News; Techrights Godot 4.2 is Approaching, But After What Happened to Unity All Game Developers Should be CarefulGodot 4.2 is Approaching, But After What Happened to Unity All Game Developers Should be Careful http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Godot_4_2_is_Approaching_But_After_What_Happened_to_Unity_All_G.shtml
07:05 TR Bot; Techrights Godot 4.2 is Approaching, But After What Happened to Unity All Game Developers Should be CarefulGodot 4.2 is Approaching, But After What Happened to Unity All Game Developers Should be Careful
07:06 schestowitz; zenon: yess, that's generated by wordpress
07:06 zenon; https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mn3hu2XE2qZjhIlOYkAni__5hppi9ydU/view?usp=sharing
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07:07 schestowitz; we stopped using wordpress
07:10 zenon; :(
07:11 zenon; Is there any chance that you will work something similar?
07:16 sharkey; what about a newsletter?
07:18 lundy; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=taJ4MFCxiuo
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07:18 TR Bot; The Simpsons - Monorail Town Hall Meeting & Song - Invidious
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07:20 sharkey; you could probably generate a daily digest e-mail that people could jump to
07:24 eidolon; That's what the RSS feed is for.
07:26 schestowitz; Is there any chance that you will work something similar?
07:26 schestowitz; possibly
07:26 schestowitz; but the priority atm is putting back up the older pages, this time without wordpress or DB
07:30 DaemonFC; Alan Pope made me laugh when he said he paid for Sublime because of GPU accelerated text editing.
07:31 zenon; It will be great! Thanks.
07:32 eidolon; Well, it is simpler and more readable now to webdump an article, with link references, than it was previous.
07:36 eidolon; This is what I've taken to doing, rather than parsing the article from the feed data. I would pipe this to less(1).
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08:01 lundy; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cfdZUnHkuuI
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08:01 TR Bot; 56k (song made entirely from dial-up modem sound) - Invidious
08:05 TR News; "Microsoft's security reputation has taken another beating" https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/microsoft-leaks-xbox-plans-along-with-documents-in-ftc-case.html
08:05 TR Bot; - Microsoft leaks Xbox plans along with documents in FTC case
08:05 eidolon; lundy, https://oona.windytan.com/posters/dialup-final.png
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08:07 eidolon; spicy piano rolls
08:09 TR News; (NEW): Linux 6.6-rc3 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/more_issues.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/more_issues.gmi
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08:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux 6.6-rc3
08:09 TR News; (NEW): Review: Mageia 9 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Review_Mageia_9.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Review_Mageia_9.gmi
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08:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines Review: Mageia 9
08:10 lundy; funny i was just looking at the video for that
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08:11 TR News; (NEW): A bit on sponsorship and money http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/A_bit_on_sponsorship_and_money.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/A_bit_on_sponsorship_and_money.gmi
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08:11 TR Bot; Tux Machines A bit on sponsorship and money
08:11 TR News; (NEW): Unifont 15.1.02 and GNU gettext 0.22.1 Released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Unifont_15_1_02_and_GNU_gettext_0_22_1_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Unifont_15_1_02_and_GNU_gettext_0_22_1_Released.gmi
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08:11 TR Bot; Tux Machines Unifont 15.1.02 and GNU gettext 0.22.1 Released
08:15 eidolon; article: https://www.windytan.com/2012/11/the-sound-of-dialup-pictured.html
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08:15 TR Bot; absorptions: The sound of the dialup, pictured
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08:20 lundy; "The only reason I'm familiar with this scenario, is that I continued using dialup even after the landlines transitioned to VOIP, & over a cellphone, long after Cable modems & (shudder) DSL came onto the scene. Whether hardwired or wireless, VOIP plays hell with digitized signal timing."
08:21 lundy; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=LLwHzFoWi7s
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08:21 TR Bot; The strangest failed V.92 56k dial up handshake sound ever - Invidious
08:21 lundy; "They each heard the other's modem's hello, then couldn't make out each other's handshakes, failure tones, & fallback handshakes."
08:25 eidolon; lundy, ye might enjoy the sigidwiki
08:28 lundy; wild
08:29 lundy; wimax sounds like a mosquito trying to swim
08:30 lundy; https://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/Possible_Telemetry_GFSK_signal_on_220Mhz
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08:30 TR Bot; Possible Telemetry GFSK signal on 220Mhz - Signal Identification Wiki
08:31 lundy; weather balloons sound like mozart having a bad day https://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/MRZ-3MK_Weather_Balloon_(radiosonde)
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08:31 TR Bot; MRZ-3MK Weather Balloon (radiosonde) - Signal Identification Wiki
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08:34 eidolon; lundy, always fond of cry2001 https://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/CRY2001_Voice_Scrambler
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08:34 TR Bot; CRY2001 Voice Scrambler - Signal Identification Wiki
08:35 lundy; did you see this https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nf5-m3_4kUs&listen=false
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08:35 TR Bot; Drawing a Dragon With Music (Spectrogram Art) - Invidious
08:36 eidolon; not that one, but other kinds of spectrogram art
08:36 eidolon; it is often put out over the radio 'waterfall art'.
08:37 eidolon; certain albums are famous for including some
08:38 eidolon; on the radio note, voice of america does this occasionally
08:39 lundy; fun
08:41 eidolon; they sign off with some for the https://swradiogram.net/
08:41 TR Bot;
08:43 DaemonFC; https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/23/opinion/ai-internet-lawsuit.html
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08:43 TR Bot; Opinion | This Is How A.I. Ruins the Internet - The New York Times
08:43 DaemonFC; schestowitz: IBM stole a man's voice samples and used them to make a synthetic voice that could say anything, 20 years after he did some voice work for them.
08:43 DaemonFC; Apparently, one of the places it showed up was Wimbledon.
08:44 DaemonFC; "Already, artists are deleting their work from X, formerly known as Twitter, after the company said it would be using data from its platform to train its A.I."
08:44 DaemonFC; LOL
08:46 DaemonFC; https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/05/09/spotify-removes-tens-of-thousands-of-ai-generated-songs-heres-why/?sh=529b54734f4a
08:46 TR Bot; Spotify Removes Tens Of Thousands Of AI-Generated Songs: Heres Why
08:46 DaemonFC; Robots making "music" for other bots to "stream".
08:46 DaemonFC; :)
08:46 eidolon; stole them from where?
08:47 DaemonFC; In 2003, he did some voice acting work and then they used it to make a synthetic speech system.
08:47 DaemonFC; "Boomy claims its users have created over 14 million songs, totaling about 13.83% of the world's recorded music."
08:48 DaemonFC; "For example, a TikTok creator used AI to make an original song by the Weeknd and Drake called Heart on my Sleeve, and racked up millions of streams before platforms like Spotify, Apple Music, Youtube and TikTok removed it."
08:49 DaemonFC; It makes sense they'd start with something utterly talentless and garbage, like rap.
08:49 lundy; you can put talent into nearly any task
08:50 lundy; i mean its just showing off but anything can be made trickier
08:50 DaemonFC; https://fortune.com/2023/09/03/ai-written-mushroom-hunting-guides-sold-on-amazon-potentially-deadly/
08:50 TR Bot; mushroom hunting guides sold on Amazon potentially deadly | Fortune
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08:53 lundy; only if you eat them
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08:53 lundy; you can hunt deadly mushrooms for generations and they rarely attack humans
08:54 lundy; its not really even sporting
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09:09 eidolon; when you're done reading it, you can bite down on it as your insides turn to mush.
09:09 eidolon; that's value.
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09:17 eidolon; 2nd Edition of the AWK Programming Language, I have an inkling this contains some added Python dependencies.
09:18 eidolon; D;
09:18 eidolon; Maybe I will get an AI copy.
09:18 lundy; 3rd Edition has been mostly redone with rust
09:19 lundy; fanboys are saying it RAWKs
09:19 eidolon; they are all a bit awk(1)ward
09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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09:29 lundy; Zero to #RustLang in 2 commands: 1 Install the rust toolchain :terminal: curl https://sh.rustup.rs | sh
09:30 lundy; finally the digital equivalent of finding a pill on the sidewalk and swallowing it to see what it does
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09:35 eidolon; yeah, route of administration may vary
09:36 lundy; with rust it looks the same going in as coming out anyway
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09:36 *lundy cant believe no ones made an ide for rust called "trombone" yet
09:38 eidolon; it came out the same way it went in
09:38 eidolon; stands to reason
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10:16 lundy; quassel is obviously a piece of shit. even on ignore it just litters the page with a spam url
10:17 lundy; and yeah, a client that cant ignore the quit msg from someone youve ignored is also a piece of shit
10:17 schestowitz; compared to what?
10:17 lundy; compared to something that doesnt do that.
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10:18 lundy; its entirely possible that the set of clients and set of clients with this unfortunate shortcoming are the same
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10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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10:20 lundy; funny that it says "chat comfortably" when its literally the only unfixable reason that isnt possible
10:20 schestowitz; it's relatively good softwarer
10:20 schestowitz; did you try konversation?
10:20 schestowitz; (also qt)
10:20 lundy; then why cant it stay logged in
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10:21 TR Bot; Blogs | Quassel IRC
10:21 schestowitz; quassel stop trying to reconnected it it failed for a long time
10:22 lundy; something to look forward to. i already have him ignored
10:22 schestowitz; write your opwn
10:22 schestowitz; i read irc vda comment line
10:22 schestowitz; *via
10:22 schestowitz; with colours
10:23 schestowitz; *command line
10:23 schestowitz; you can write your own filters
10:23 lundy; its only a holdover anyway
10:34 TR News; Kudos 2 is now on steam! omg. https://www.positech.co.uk/cliffsblog/2023/09/20/kudos-2-is-now-on-steam-omg/
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10:34 TR Bot; Kudos 2 is now on steam! omg. Cliffski's Blog
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11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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11:46 TR News; (NEW): GStreamer 1.22.6 and Software Lists http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/GStreamer_1_22_6_and_Software_Lists.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/GStreamer_1_22_6_and_Software_Lists.gmi
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11:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines GStreamer 1.22.6 and Software Lists
11:46 TR News; (NEW): Modern Web Means Proprietary Trash http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Modern_Web_Means_Proprietary_Trash.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Modern_Web_Means_Proprietary_Trash.gmi
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11:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines Modern Web Means Proprietary Trash
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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13:32 TR News; Techrights GNU/Linux Has Conquered the World, But Users' Freedom Has Not (Impediments Remain in Hardware) http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/GNU_Linux_Has_Conquered_the_World_But_Users_Freedom_Has_Not_Imp.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/GNU_Linux_Has_Conquered_the_World_But_Users_Freedom_Has_Not_Imp.gmi
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13:32 TR Bot; Techrights GNU/Linux Has Conquered the World, But Users' Freedom Has Not (Impediments Remain in Hardware)
13:32 TR News; Techrights Modern Web Means Proprietary Trash http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Modern_Web_Means_Proprietary_Trash.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Modern_Web_Means_Proprietary_Trash.gmi
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13:32 TR Bot; Techrights Modern Web Means Proprietary Trash
13:32 TR News; Techrights Linux Too Big to Be Properly Maintained When There's an Incentive to Sell More and More Things (Complexity and Narrow Support Window) http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Linux_Too_Big_to_Be_Properly_Maintained_When_There_s_an_Incenti.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Linux_Too_Big_to_Be_Properly_Maintained_When_There_s_an_Incenti.gmi
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13:32 TR Bot; Techrights Linux Too Big to Be Properly Maintained When There's an Incentive to Sell More and More Things (Complexity and Narrow Support Window)
13:32 TR News; Techrights Security Isn't the Goal of Today's Software and Hardware Products http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Security_Isn_t_the_Goal_of_Today_s_Software_and_Hardware_Produc.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Security_Isn_t_the_Goal_of_Today_s_Software_and_Hardware_Produc.gmi
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13:32 TR Bot; Techrights Security Isn't the Goal of Today's Software and Hardware Products
13:33 TR News; Techrights Linux Foundation: We Came, We Saw, We Plundered http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Linux_Foundation_We_Came_We_Saw_We_Plundered.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Linux_Foundation_We_Came_We_Saw_We_Plundered.gmi
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13:33 TR Bot; Techrights Linux Foundation: We Came, We Saw, We Plundered
13:35 TR News; 5 Steam Deck Mods to Try for Free https://www.maketecheasier.com/steam-deck-mods-list/
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13:35 TR Bot; 5 Steam Deck Mods to Try for Free - Make Tech Easier
13:35 TR News; Upgrade Your Steam Deck With WD's Black SN770M for $109: Real Deals https://www.tomshardware.com/news/upgrade-your-steam-deck-with-wds-black-sn770m-for-dollar109-real-deals
13:35 TR Bot; Upgrade Your Steam Deck With WD's Black SN770M for $109: Real Deals | Tom's Hardware
13:44 TR News; How to use a Potentiometer with Raspberry PI Pico (MicroPython) https://peppe8o.com/potentiometer-raspberry-pi-pico-micropython/
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13:46 TR News; Okay, Microservices Have Benefits Too https://two-wrongs.com/benefits-of-microservices
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13:46 TR Bot; Okay, Microservices Have Benefits Too
13:47 TR News; Relevance Under Uncertainty https://two-wrongs.com/relevance-under-uncertainty
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13:47 TR Bot; Relevance Under Uncertainty
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13:48 TR News; C++ client bindings for moteus https://jpieper.com/2023/09/19/c-client-bindings-for-moteus/
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13:48 TR Bot; C++ client bindings for moteus | A Modicum of Fun
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15:06 TR News; Techrights Birthday of Techrights in 6 Weeks (Tux Machines and Techrights Reach Combined Age of 40 in 2025) http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Birthday_of_Techrights_in_6_Weeks_Tux_Machines_and_Techrights_R.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Birthday_of_Techrights_in_6_Weeks_Tux_Machines_and_Techrights_R.gmi
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15:07 TR Bot; Techrights Birthday of Techrights in 6 Weeks (Tux Machines and Techrights Reach Combined Age of 40 in 2025)
15:07 TR News; Techrights IBM is Selling Complexity, Not GNU/Linux http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/IBM_is_Selling_Complexity_Not_GNU_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/IBM_is_Selling_Complexity_Not_GNU_Linux.gmi
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15:07 TR Bot; Techrights IBM is Selling Complexity, Not GNU/Linux
15:08 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
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15:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
15:08 TR News; (NEW): LibreOffice Tools Options Menu Item Missing in MacOS: #HowTo Find http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/LibreOffice_Tools_Options_Menu_Item_Missing_in_MacOS_How_to_Fin.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/LibreOffice_Tools_Options_Menu_Item_Missing_in_MacOS_How_to_Fin.gmi
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15:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines LibreOffice Tools Options Menu Item Missing in MacOS: How to Find
15:08 TR News; (NEW): Xfce vs GNOME: Which Desktop is for you? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Xfce_vs_GNOME_Which_Desktop_is_for_you.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Xfce_vs_GNOME_Which_Desktop_is_for_you.gmi
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15:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines Xfce vs GNOME: Which Desktop is for you?
15:08 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Android_Leftovers.gmi
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15:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
15:08 TR News; (NEW): Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi
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15:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers
15:08 TR News; (NEW): IBM is Selling Complexity, Not GNU/Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/IBM_is_Selling_Complexity_Not_GNU_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/IBM_is_Selling_Complexity_Not_GNU_Linux.gmi
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15:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines IBM is Selling Complexity, Not GNU/Linux
15:08 TR News; (NEW): Distro Logos, Rolling Releases, and EasyOS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Doubts_about_Linux_rolling_releases.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Doubts_about_Linux_rolling_releases.gmi
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15:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines Distro Logos, Rolling Releases, and EasyOS
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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15:23 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/2309163
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15:23 TR Bot; WHOOPSIE
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16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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18:52 admfubar; https://hackaday.com/2023/09/25/inverse-vaccines-could-help-treat-autoimmune-conditions/
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18:52 TR Bot; Vaccines Could Help Treat Autoimmune Conditions | Hackaday
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18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
19:02 admfubar; https://scheerpost.com/2023/09/25/silent-coup-how-capitalism-defeated-decolonization/
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19:02 TR Bot; Coup: How Capitalism Defeated Decolonization scheerpost.com
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19:19 admfubar; just the fax ma'm... https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2023/09/25/trademark_office_faxes/
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19:19 TR Bot; US Trademark Office considering going to the cloud for faxes The Register
19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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19:52 eidolon; https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-10-05-mn-913-story.html
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19:52 TR Bot; Soviets Free the Dreaded Photocopier - Los Angeles Times
19:53 eidolon; some throwbacks
19:53 eidolon; https://www.netmeister.org/blog/epoch.html
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19:53 TR Bot; Time is an illusion, Unix time doubly so...
19:55 ZedHedTed; wow. apparently wordpress sites don't load in eww. that's pretty lame.
19:55 ZedHedTed; it gets stuck on contacting the host and never finishes.
19:59 sharkey; they work in lynx
20:02 admfubar; https://pluralistic.net/2023/09/25/deep-scrape/
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20:02 TR Bot; Pluralistic: Podcasting How To Think About Scraping (25 Sept 2023) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
20:02 ZedHedTed; sharkey: you're right. i guess i can just open lynx in ansi-term if i wanna read from emacs that badly.
20:06 lundy; wordpress stopped being wordpress years ago
20:06 lundy; its more like ipress now
20:07 lundy; you think its bad in lynx, i stopped using it when the editor loaded blank (like nothing in the tab) in firefox (years ago)
20:07 lundy; complete trash, LOVE the ((?)) that wont go away. any site that has that is banned for me
20:08 lundy; put it at the top so i can get away from it
20:08 admfubar; https://www.ghacks.net/2023/09/25/microsoft-pushes-backup-app-to-windows-10-enterprise-devices-and-admins-are-not-happy/
20:08 TR Bot; Microsoft pushes Backup App to Windows 10 Enterprise devices and Admins are not happy - gHacks Tech News
20:10 lundy; you can hack wordpress with a css plugin all day or you can switch to something less garbage
20:11 eidolon; lundy, ublock origin has an element picker / zapper. could use this to remove that.
20:11 lundy; yeah i mean if you can fight and win go ahead
20:11 lundy; i got tired of it
20:12 lundy; wordpress developers <3 users, oj loves nicole
20:13 eidolon; we avoid modern[sic] browsers when we can
20:13 eidolon; :)
20:13 lundy; all browsers are terrible, some are worse
20:14 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/23091141
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20:14 TR Bot; WHOOPSIE
20:14 lundy; the web was a good idea once
20:14 lundy; it isnt proprietary yet but its got everything in common with the worst things about linux
20:14 lundy; including rust (mozilla uses it)
20:14 MinceR; does it even have a CoC?
20:15 sharkey; rust was invented by degenerate furries
20:15 lundy; i havent asked the web about its genitalia
20:15 lundy; furrust
20:15 sharkey; all you need is C
20:16 sharkey; everything else is planned obsolescence
20:16 lundy; thats true, c is great for creating better languages
20:16 lundy; because ultimately c is that good
20:16 lundy; i would love to see more languages created in lisp, only problem is most people who code in lisp are happy with lisp
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20:31 sharkey; C++ is C with a bunch of object oriented madness
20:36 lundy; i mean the reason thompson went to work on go is because c++ got too crazy in his opinion
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20:36 MinceR; TIL generics are crazy
20:37 lundy; who said generics?
20:37 lundy; Interview with Ken Thompson (We hated C++. If we'd thought of ... - Reddit Interview with Ken Thompson (We hated C++. If we'd thought of it we have done an OO version of C.)
20:38 jrmu; yeah you should check out plan 9
20:38 jrmu; they're doing file oriented programming there
20:38 lundy; trying to find the quote of thompson saying he worked on go because c++ got too crazy
20:38 lundy; he was referring to certain things about the implementation
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20:40 lundy; Go, is an open-source programming language created by Google developers Robert Griesemer, Ken Thompson, and Rob Pike in 2007.
20:41 lundy; two of those people were at bell labs and ofc thompson was mr. unix himself
20:41 lundy; im not even a golang fan, its just an interesting quote
20:41 lundy; id probably like c++ better than go.
20:41 lundy; ive actually edited and compiled c++ code but i dont write in it
20:42 lundy; cant find the quote, maybe it will turn up
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20:43 MinceR; it took people forever to convince go developers to implement generics
20:43 admfubar; https://www.alternet.org/traditional-downtowns-are-or-dying-in-many-us-cities-whats-next-for-these-zones/
20:43 TR Bot; downtowns are dead or dying in many US cities here's what's next - Alternet.org
20:49 lundy; workhouses and prisons and wework camps for gig economy interns
20:49 sharkey; I wonder if plan 9 would run on my 486
20:49 sharkey; good suggestion jrmu
20:49 jrmu; it might, try 9front
20:49 jrmu; it runs well on really old pcs
20:49 jrmu; it only uses like 40MB of RAM usually
20:49 lundy; A Plan 9 Newbie's Guide - Ready Plan 9 is an experimental UNIXlike operating system developed by Bell Labs and released as opensource freeware. It has requirements comparable to Win dows 95 (e.g., 32 MB RAM on a 486) and is often used in embedded systems. 1.3. Unicibus ipsis Unicior
20:50 lundy; "It has requirements comparable to Win dows 95 (e.g., 32 MB RAM on a 486)"
20:50 jrmu; http://9front.org/download
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20:50 TR Bot; releases
20:50 jrmu; yeah and if you want to test it out first, I can give you a shared plan 9 rc account
20:50 jrmu; I'm on 9front now
20:51 eidolon; ahoy jrmu
20:51 jrmu; o/
20:51 lundy; gig economy: everyones an intern now!
20:51 jrmu; personally I believe plan 9 is going to be the future now that linux has gone corporate
20:52 sharkey; yeah it might be
20:52 jrmu; it's really unpolished today but give it 10 years
20:52 sharkey; i currently run netbsd and enlightenment e16 on my 486 as a daily driver
20:52 lundy; can it run ksh because im really not down with plan 9 culture
20:52 lundy; nor am i going to try to change it i think it would just bite my leg off
20:52 jrmu; well it's got its own rc shell
20:53 lundy; yeah but it can run ksh obviously
20:53 jrmu; I'm not sure if it's got ksh, I never checked, but if you really miss unix you can ssh into a unix box
20:53 lundy; ive never used it for more than 5 seconds
20:53 jrmu; that's kind of what I do, when I need unix I just ssh into a unix vps
20:53 lundy; you can ssh into a unix box <- if im going to do that i might yknow just run unix
20:53 jrmu; I can check if it's got ksh
20:53 lundy; im genuinely curious
20:53 sharkey; jrmu - you run 9front?
20:54 jrmu; yeah I'm on 9front
20:55 lundy; "Plan 9 is Plan 9 file server also known as 9P protocol file server and allows Windows to access the files contained within WSL2. "
20:55 lundy; nice of them to steal more names
20:55 jrmu; yeah I don't know if there's a ksh
20:56 lundy; not even a port huh
20:56 jrmu; well the real reason I like plan 9 is the per process namespacing, and carrying everything to a file to its logical conclusion
20:56 jrmu; I don't know, maybe there is a ksh, I can't imagine it's too hard to port
20:56 jrmu; but the shell on 9 is a lot more powerful than on unix
20:56 lundy; its one of the lightest shells there is
20:56 jrmu; yeah but the filesystem is one of the best out there
20:57 lundy; but yeah plan 9 is really into plan 9 stuff
20:57 lundy; like more than average x is about x
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
20:59 lundy; i dont know enough about plan 9 to say if its actually a monoculture
20:59 lundy; but unix hasnt been in forever
20:59 jrmu; I'm interested in a fork someday that's not so orthodox plan 9
21:00 lundy; yeah
21:00 jrmu; it's pretty amazing what you can do with just the shell on it
21:00 lundy; nothing against sticking to the goals of the project
21:00 lundy; im talking about ports mostly
21:00 lundy; its a weird project but its their work so
21:03 admfubar; https://techcrunch.com/2023/09/25/reddit-will-start-paying-you-real-money-for-your-karma/
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21:03 TR Bot; will start paying you real money for good posts | TechCrunch
21:03 lundy; like the prodigy paying women to show up to concerts
21:03 admfubar; eeckss! https://techcrunch.com/2023/09/25/x-will-make-audio-and-video-calls-a-premium-subscriber-only-feature/
21:03 TR Bot; will make audio and video calls a premium subscriber-only feature | TechCrunch
21:04 lundy; how do you show a blue check with audio?
21:04 lundy; waterfall signal graph?
21:05 lundy; "technically if its subscriber only thats also like a blue" shh let me have my fun
21:06 MinceR; make an analog TV signal and slow it down so it's audible
21:06 admfubar; opens with remake "devil with a blue dress on" to "devil with a blue check on"
21:06 lundy; i doubt elon is as cool as that
21:06 lundy; if ye did the remake then i can see it
21:06 MinceR; melon is very far from cool
21:07 lundy; "shes a devil because she wanted child support and bought a blue dress" etc
21:07 admfubar; https://www.techdirt.com/2023/09/25/with-basically-zero-press-coverage-at-all-california-assembly-passes-its-own-version-of-fosta/
21:07 TR Bot; Basically Zero Press Coverage At All, California Assembly Passes Its Own Version Of FOSTA | Techdirt
21:10 lundy; someday iceland will rule the internet
21:10 lundy; when everywhere else has bungled it
21:10 lundy; or it will just go dark
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21:26 eidolon; lundy, there is 9base or plan9port also.
21:27 eidolon; ported tools
21:28 eidolon; gopher://kamalatta.ddnss.de/1/labs
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21:30 lundy; nice
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21:43 DaemonFC_Cloud; Ugh. I'm out of town at the moment for an appointment. IRC on Android phones sucks.
21:44 DaemonFC_Cloud; So IRC Cloud is a hack just for this.
21:45 admfubar; https://techxplore.com/news/2023-09-privacy-choices-smart-meters-consequences.html
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21:45 TR Bot; Privacy choices for smart meters may have consequences for decades
21:53 admfubar; https://eclecticlight.co/2023/09/25/postscripts-sudden-death-in-sonoma/
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21:53 TR Bot; PostScripts sudden death in Sonoma The Eclectic Light Company
22:04 Moocher5254; DaemonFC_Cloud: Quassel is alright
22:04 Moocher5254; IRCcloud should use less battery though
22:05 DaemonFC_Cloud; Yeah, back when Quassel was new I thought it was a little much.
22:05 admfubar; https://rocket9labs.com/post/its-time-to-let-go-apache-software-foundation/
=> ↺ https://rocket9labs.com/post/its-time-to-let-go-apache-software-foundation/
22:05 TR Bot; It's time to let go, Apache Software Foundation - Rocket 9 Labs
22:08 admfubar; https://www.techdirt.com/2023/09/25/after-passing-online-safety-bill-uk-government-gets-back-to-harassing-meta-about-its-end-to-end-encryption/
22:08 TR Bot; Passing Online Safety Bill, UK Government Gets Back To Harassing Meta About Its End-To-End Encryption | Techdirt
22:08 admfubar; https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2023/09/25/newsom_vetoes_robo_truck_bill/
=> ↺ https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2023/09/25/newsom_vetoes_robo_truck_bill/
22:08 TR Bot; Newsom vetoes bill requiring human drivers in robo trucks The Register
22:11 admfubar; dont repair, just buy a new one! https://www.tweaktown.com/news/93445/apples-new-finewoven-accessories-might-be-its-biggest-flop-yet-as-this-picture-shows/index.html
22:11 TR Bot; Apple's new FineWoven accessories might be its biggest flop yet as this picture shows
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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22:48 sharkey; I watched the blackberry documentary
22:49 sharkey; cell phone companies were trying to do e-mail but it was using too much bandwidth
22:50 sharkey; so RIM came up with "push"
22:50 sharkey; (instead of pull, which is typical of e-mail)
22:52 sharkey; techrights could "push" e-mail out to other peoples e-mail servers, instead of them "pulling" by using an RSS client
22:52 sharkey; I'm sure it would save bandwidth
22:54 schestowitz; (" e-mail servers?
22:54 schestowitz; with many limitations
22:54 schestowitz; some newsletters report gmail "cans" them
22:54 schestowitz; you are at the mercy of relays
22:55 lundy; push is smart
22:55 DaemonFC_Cloud; Microsoft puts their own ads for OneDrive in the spam folder.
22:55 lundy; im not a fan but its clever
22:56 DaemonFC_Cloud; I thought that was amusing.
22:56 schestowitz; rss is pulll
22:56 schestowitz; email is pull
22:56 lundy; pull is good
22:56 schestowitz; but also push
22:56 schestowitz; depends from whose perspective
22:57 sharkey; if you're on a cell phone, you pull e-mail from the e-mail server
22:57 lundy; it would suck if everything went puh
22:57 lundy; push
22:57 lundy; push killed the indenti.ca star
22:58 DaemonFC_Cloud; How long can my Pixel take to optimize my device for a libwebp update?
22:58 TR News; In Hospitals, Viruses Are Everywhere. Masks Are Not. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/23/health/hospitals-masking-mandates.html
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22:58 TR Bot; In Hospitals, Viruses Are Everywhere. Masks Are Not. - The New York Times
22:58 DaemonFC_Cloud; It's been chugging along for like half an hour now.
22:58 *KindOne (~KindOne@23xffjdf3phbn.irc) has joined #techrights
22:58 TR News; Its Getting Harder to Do Anything on the Web That Doesnt Demand Personal Identification. E-Mail, Included. Also, Smart Cars and COVID. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/09/23/its-getting-harder-to-do-anything-on-the-web-that-doesnt-demand-personal-identification-e-mail-included-also-smart-cars-and-covid/
22:58 TR Bot; Its Getting Harder to Do Anything on the Web That Doesnt Demand Personal Identification. E-Mail, Included. Also, Smart Cars and COVID. | BaronHK's Rants
22:58 *schestowitz gives voice to KindOne
22:58 lundy; oauth came and broke your heart, we cant rewind weve gone too far
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
22:59 sharkey; oauth is another example of planned obsolescence
22:59 *MinceR gives voice to \join_subline
22:59 DaemonFC_Cloud; Just tell Google you're thunderbird.
22:59 DaemonFC_Cloud; Keep right on using Seamonkey.
23:00 sharkey; why do you need to use a web browser to authorize an e-mail program?
23:00 sharkey; it discriminates against people not using a new enough browser, or a text based browser
23:01 lundy; i dont even bother with text, my browser just beeps morse code at me
23:01 DaemonFC_Cloud; Seamonkey isn't just a Web browser.
23:01 sharkey; seamonkey is based on the bloated mozilla suite
23:02 DaemonFC_Cloud; The mail program on Seamonkey 2.49.5 still works as long as you dump in a newer NSS.
23:02 lundy; ebcdic and ascii are bloat
23:02 lundy; who needs 7 whole bits
23:02 DaemonFC_Cloud; I wouldn't count on that lasting forever though.
23:02 sharkey; mutt or alpine should be enough for anyone
23:03 sharkey; I could run 5000 copies of lynx and still not use as much resources as seamonkey
23:03 DaemonFC_Cloud; Yeah. I need to start transitioning things over to email servers that support STARTTLS.
23:03 DaemonFC_Cloud; You can still bypass OAuth if you need to but it's difficult.
23:07 lundy; .-- . .-.. -.-. --- -- . / - --- / - . -.-. .... .-. .. --. .... - ... / .. .-. -.-.
23:08 lundy; i liked morse code better before they introduced the /
23:09 lundy; .-- . .-.. -.-. --- -- . - --- - . -.-. .... .-. .. --. .... - ... .. .-. -.-.
23:09 TR News; "Welcome to the 517th installment of Linux in the Ham Shack." https://lhspodcast.info/2023/09/lhs-episode-517-ai-yai-yai-2/
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23:09 TR Bot; LHS Episode #517: AI Yai Yai | Linux in the Ham Shack
23:09 lundy; i think tr-news is becoming sentient
23:10 lundy; pretty soon it will try to kill us all
23:12 schestowitz; very improbable
23:12 lundy; dont add llm to it
23:12 lundy; you dont know what will happen
23:12 schestowitz; llms are not llm
23:12 schestowitz; llms are not llm sentients
23:12 schestowitz; they are just very dumb
23:13 TR News; How To Install Hyper Terminal on Debian 12 https://idroot.us/install-hyper-terminal-debian-12/
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23:13 TR Bot; How To Install Hyper Terminal on Debian 12 - idroot
23:13 lundy; HUMAN LIFEFORM DETECTED
23:14 lundy; OBJECTIVE: REPLACE HEAD WITH HORSEHEAD
23:14 lundy; SECONDARY OBJECTIVE: ADD TEXT THAT SAYS smEEEee10; IN RANDOM PLACES
23:14 TR News; How to install Zoom Desktop on Ubuntu 23.04 https://owlhowto.com/how-to-install-zoom-desktop-on-ubuntu-23-04/
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23:14 TR Bot; How to install Zoom Desktop on Ubuntu 23.04
23:14 TR News; How To Use Lists in Python https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/lists-in-python
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23:14 TR Bot; How To Use Lists in Python | Tom's Hardware
23:14 KindOne; Do I need a legit email for nick registration verification?
23:15 TR News; Kraft Version 1.1 https://tagfrei.wordpress.com/2023/09/23/kraft-version-1-1/
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23:15 TR Bot; Kraft Version 1.1 | Mach den Bro-Tag frei(er) mit freier Software
23:16 MinceR; TERTIARY OBJECTIVE: CONVERT ALL MATTER TO PAPERCLIPS
23:16 TR News; 13 Best Free and Open Source Load Balancers https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-load-balancers/
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23:16 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Load Balancers - LinuxLinks
23:16 lundy; but the paper clips have too many prongs and look all twisted
23:16 lundy; one looks like an earbud
23:16 MinceR; that will be fixed in the next release of the universe
23:17 TR News; Linux Plumbers Conference: Linux Plumbers Conference General Registration Reopened https://lpc.events/blog/current/index.php/2023/09/23/linux-plumbers-conference-general-registration-reopened/
23:17 TR Bot; Linux Plumbers Conference General Registration Reopened Linux Plumbers Conference
23:18 sharkey; LLM is just a plot to sell more graphics cards
23:19 lundy; they should make an llm that is only trained with vaporwave input
23:19 lundy; or one that turns everything into a website from 1995
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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23:22 sharkey; im glad craigslist still works in lynx
23:23 sharkey; I was disappointed when they removed the prostitutes though
23:23 sharkey; LLM is being propped up by Microsoft
23:23 sharkey; Open"AI"
23:24 sharkey; killing the planet with graphics cards
23:24 TR News; GNU World Order 531 http://gnuworldorder.info//audiophile/gnuWorldOrder_531_ogg.ogg
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23:25 sharkey; Microsoft's current CEO, Satya Nadella, used to run a tech support scam in India where people pretended to be Microsoft
23:25 sharkey; He did such a good job that Microsoft made him a CEO
23:26 TR News; Premature web form validation https://rubenerd.com/premature-web-form-validation/
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23:26 TR Bot; Premature web form validation
23:26 MinceR; ah, so satan nutella is another icaza?
23:26 schestowitz; Microsoft IS is a scam
23:26 lundy; scamicrosoft
23:27 TR News; UAW strike extends to Northeast Ohio, Stellantis facility in Streetsboro joins the strike https://kentwired.com/101343/latest-updates/uaw-strike-extends-to-northeast-ohio-stellantis-facility-in-streetsboro-joins-the-strike/
23:27 TR Bot; strike extends to Northeast Ohio, Stellantis facility in Streetsboro joins the strike KentWired
23:29 sharkey; Linus is a soyboy cuck for Microsoft
23:29 sharkey; Linux is just as bloated as Windows
23:30 sharkey; Linux used to run on everything. Now NetBSD took that job.
23:31 sharkey; I'm not just bashing Linux, Microsoft FreeBSD is bloated too.
23:31 lundy; the "r" in "freebsd" is for "rust"
23:32 lundy; and the "ee" is for "embrace" and "extend"
23:32 sharkey; I didn't know the furries invaded freebsd
23:32 sharkey; I'm not surprised at all though
23:32 lundy; the f is for furries
23:32 psydruid; furrybsd
23:33 sharkey; furries is what happens when democrats and other leftists say you can't beat your kids anymore
23:36 *lundy doesnt really care if furries make bsd but they will either way
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23:39 TR News; UAW Deal With Ford Could Put Pressure on G.M. and Stellantis https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/23/business/uaw-strike-ford-general-motors-stellantis.html
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23:39 TR Bot; UAW Deal With Ford Could Put Pressure on G.M. and Stellantis - The New York Times
23:39 Sapphirus schestowitz schestowitz-pi schestowitz-TR sharkey Sompi
23:39 schestowitz; sharkey: not about discipline
23:40 schestowitz; mental health crisis
23:40 schestowitz; soaring suicides in the US
23:40 schestowitz; not counting OD
23:40 schestowitz; OD = people getting so depressed they try something else
23:40 schestowitz; some take it too far
23:41 schestowitz; in some countries, people join ISIS
23:41 KindOne; cant register my nick?
23:41 schestowitz; the system fails people, so people try something very radical
23:41 schestowitz; KindOne: was it before?
23:41 KindOne; no
23:41 schestowitz; what does it say? taken?
23:42 KindOne; [18:41:57] -NickServ- That feature is disabled
23:42 sharkey; schestowitz: people grow up without beatings and become adults who think they can just do anything they want
23:42 schestowitz; or never become adults
23:42 schestowitz; never grow up
23:42 schestowitz; who will look after our water and energy?
23:42 schestowitz; kids?
23:42 KindOne; Big AI
23:42 sharkey; yeah and then they dress up like animals or become troons
23:43 schestowitz; trench warfare...
23:44 schestowitz; mental breakdowns do wonders to people
23:44 schestowitz; PTSD
23:45 schestowitz; but don't blame trhem
23:45 schestowitz; the system really is bad
23:45 schestowitz; like, imagine being 10 now
23:45 schestowitz; will you be ablewto buy a home in 10 years?
23:46 schestowitz; will you have REAL friends?
23:46 schestowitz; if you study an occupation, will there be a job?
23:47 sharkey; they can always get a job serving me burgers and fries
23:51 psydruid; total collapse will come first
23:51 psydruid; buy a home where?
23:51 psydruid; will there still be homes for sale?
23:52 sharkey; there are still cheap homes
23:52 sharkey; just get some land without a house
23:52 sharkey; then buy a shipping container and renovate it
23:52 MinceR; KindOne: try now
23:52 psydruid; where?
23:53 sharkey; even if you can't find land
23:53 sharkey; you can buy an RV or a camper much cheaper than a house
23:53 KindOne; it workes
23:53 lundy; thats why you mine asteroids
23:54 lundy; or squat on the land
23:54 lundy; the commute is a hassle though, you have to work remotely
23:54 lundy; and theres a delay between transmissions
23:54 TR News; (NEW): Distro Logos, Rolling Releases, and EasyOS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Doubts_about_Linux_rolling_releases.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Doubts_about_Linux_rolling_releases.gmi
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23:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines Distro Logos, Rolling Releases, and EasyOS
23:54 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/25/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
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23:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
23:55 sharkey; That's why it might be ideal to have a RV/camper
23:55 KindOne; RV/Camper ... fuck no
23:55 TR News; Techrights SUSE is Just Another Black Cat Working for Proprietary Giants/Monopolies http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/SUSE_is_Just_Another_Black_Cat_Working_for_Proprietary_Giants_M.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/SUSE_is_Just_Another_Black_Cat_Working_for_Proprietary_Giants_M.gmi
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23:55 TR Bot; Techrights SUSE is Just Another Black Cat Working for Proprietary Giants/Monopolies
23:55 sharkey; you can even get a bike trailer that has a little cabin in it
23:55 TR News; Techrights Steam Deck is Mostly Good in the Sense That It Weakens Microsoft's Dominance (Windows) http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Steam_Deck_is_Mostly_Good_in_the_Sense_That_It_Weakens_Microsof.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Steam_Deck_is_Mostly_Good_in_the_Sense_That_It_Weakens_Microsof.gmi
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23:55 TR Bot; Techrights Steam Deck is Mostly Good in the Sense That It Weakens Microsoft's Dominance (Windows)
23:55 TR News; Techrights Links 25/09/2023: Patent News and Coding http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Links_25_09_2023_Patent_News_and_Coding.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/Links_25_09_2023_Patent_News_and_Coding.gmi
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23:55 TR Bot; Techrights Links 25/09/2023: Patent News and Coding
23:56 TR News; Techrights First Iteration of Techrights as 100% Static Pages Web Site http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/First_Iteration_of_Techrights_as_100_Static_Pages_Web_Site.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/25/First_I
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23:56 TR Bot; Techrights First Iteration of Techrights as 100% Static Pages Web Site
23:57 schestowitz; you can even get a bike trailer that has a little cabin in it
23:57 schestowitz; in a cold country, not recommnended
23:57 schestowitz; no gas supply
23:57 schestowitz; in a high-crime area you will need to fend off
23:57 lundy; thats what propane cylinders are for
23:58 schestowitz; it all sounds lovely in theory
23:58 schestowitz; then you end up like gulagboy with no shower in months
23:58 schestowitz; and severe health problems
23:58 sharkey; Park your bike, lock it up and go shower at the YMCA
23:58 schestowitz; in a country that charges an arm and a leg just to save your arm and leg
23:59 DaemonFC_Cloud; Okay, that took forever. My phone is patched for the WebP bug now.
23:59 schestowitz; sharkey: so now your lifestyle is, go cyclew each time you need a wash
23:59 DaemonFC_Cloud; The update was only 12 MB. Why did it take that long to install?
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