IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, September 13, 2022

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beginning of new day, September 13

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00:06 starstreak; smoke weed every day!

00:12 highest_cubist_thrills; smoke weed every day! <- 424/7?

00:13 highest_cubist_thrills; 153405

00:14 highest_cubist_thrills; thats 420 times 365.25

00:17 starstreak; my lungs are my... ATTack SUrfaCE

00:17 highest_cubist_thrills; lol

00:18 highest_cubist_thrills; "lets get two big industrial windmills, i already got one-- who needs three? well the first one, i broke it!"

00:18 starstreak; speaking of attack surface.. i changed my malware bootloader from brave to firefox

00:18 highest_cubist_thrills; ^ snoop, black umbrella

00:18 highest_cubist_thrills; "samurai!"

00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

00:20 highest_cubist_thrills; "gonna get DUMB and bang a wiz-ARD, were gonna have a bonfire tonight-- yeah, yeah, yeah were smokin the right stuff!"-- miley

00:20 starstreak; "That's crazy man, have you ever tried DMT?" -Joe Rogan

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00:21 highest_cubist_thrills; "now why on earth did you treat me? as if i didnt understand trigonometry and tai chi?"

00:21 highest_cubist_thrills; "inverse cosign-- omigosh! theres never gonna be a better padawan than me!"

00:22 highest_cubist_thrills; sine

00:22 highest_cubist_thrills; attack cosine

00:23 highest_cubist_thrills; i guess an inverse cosign would be if the bank wanted to get another manager to back them up

00:23 highest_cubist_thrills; "im not sure i can approve this loan without my managers signature too"

00:24 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe the manager has to sign it upside down

00:25 highest_cubist_thrills; "That's crazy man, have you ever tried DMT?" -Joe Rogan <- im waiting for elon musk to grow mushrooms in space and bring them to try with joe rogan on the podcast

00:25 highest_cubist_thrills; "wow, you grew these in space?"

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00:25 highest_cubist_thrills; "yeah, i mean i think so, i was pretty fucking high at the time"

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00:26 highest_cubist_thrills; "were you in the spacex thing?"

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00:26 highest_cubist_thrills; "no, my tesla is pressurised and i was going REALLY FAST"

00:26 highest_cubist_thrills; roads! where were going we dont need... roads

00:27 highest_cubist_thrills; though it does require an orbital charging station

00:27 highest_cubist_thrills; /me can totally see musk making a "mr fusion" back to the future tesla power supply that runs on weed though

00:28 highest_cubist_thrills; itll have a flux capacitor that instead of just being a Y its shaped like a pot leaf

00:28 highest_cubist_thrills; "and the lights are green, too"

00:29 highest_cubist_thrills; joe rogan "i gotta get one of these"

00:30 highest_cubist_thrills; cheech marin is going to want a royalty check

00:30 highest_cubist_thrills; "yo we totally did this already, man"

00:30 highest_cubist_thrills; tommy chong: "yeah... did what?"

00:30 highest_cubist_thrills; "the truck, you know?"

00:30 highest_cubist_thrills; "ohhhhhh. yeah, thats was cool"

00:34 highest_cubist_thrills; /me makes a car that runs on dog shit

00:34 highest_cubist_thrills; if youre running low you just have to pull up close to the sidewalk

00:35 highest_cubist_thrills; then the scooper extends, drops it into the fuel loader...

00:35 highest_cubist_thrills; youre good for another 50 miles

00:35 highest_cubist_thrills; a big dog gets you 80

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00:36 highest_cubist_thrills; there are two models

00:36 highest_cubist_thrills; one runs on openbsd

00:37 highest_cubist_thrills; the other uses arch btw

00:37 highest_cubist_thrills; /me is going to make a derivative of arch called "arch btw"

00:42 MinceR; 13 013436 < highest_cubist_thrills> /me makes a car that runs on dog shit

00:42 MinceR; Mr. Fusion

00:42 starstreak; im going to make a derivative called Arch Linucks

00:42 MinceR; you can even toss the dog into Mr. Fusion

00:43 highest_cubist_thrills; /me doesnt hate dogs that much

00:43 MinceR; and it will be both cleaner and more useful than it otherwise ever could be

00:43 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe the sony aibo

00:43 highest_cubist_thrills; /me doesnt even hate robots that much

00:43 highest_cubist_thrills; just the ones i talk to on the phone

00:44 highest_cubist_thrills; but i want to throw them down a well

00:46 starstreak; lol

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00:54 starstreak; https://awesomekling.github.io/Ladybird-a-new-cross-platform-browser-project/

=> ↺ https://awesomekling.github.io/Ladybird-a-new-cross-platform-browser-project/

00:54 TR Bot; Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project Andreas Kling I like computers!

00:55 highest_cubist_thrills; does it run on a c64?

00:55 highest_cubist_thrills; /me tries to guess how awesomekling is pronounced

00:56 highest_cubist_thrills; "awesome kaling"

00:56 starstreak; on a c64? lol

00:56 highest_cubist_thrills; "its actually just pronounced 'awesome', all the other letters are silent"

00:57 highest_cubist_thrills; on a c64? lol <- its cross platform

00:57 starstreak; i dont even think lynx would run on c64

00:59 highest_cubist_thrills; not exactly

00:59 highest_cubist_thrills; https://commodore.software/downloads/category/115-ultimate-lynx

=> ↺ https://commodore.software/downloads/category/115-ultimate-lynx

00:59 TR Bot; Commodore Software - Ultimate Lynx

00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 53.75 average k/sec., average swarm size 162.45

00:59 XRevan86; starstreak: That's an ambitious project, pretty cool.

00:59 starstreak; generally i dont assume stuff would work for c64 because its 40 years old

1 AM, September 13

01:00 highest_cubist_thrills; it works with roy and hes 40 years old

01:00 highest_cubist_thrills; The Lynx was an 8-bit British home computer that was first released in early 1983 as a 48 kB model. [5] Several models were available with 48 kB, 96 kB or 128 kB RAM. It was possible to reach 192 kB with RAM expansions on board. John Shireff designed the hardware and Davis Jansons the firmware.

01:01 XRevan86; highest_cubist_thrills: On which Roy's body part Lynx is capable of running?

01:03 highest_cubist_thrills; highest_cubist_thrills: On which Roy's body part Lynx is capable of running? <- thats a very personal question

01:03 highest_cubist_thrills; also i think he requires an adapter of some kind

01:03 highest_cubist_thrills; also i said "works with" not "runs on"

01:04 XRevan86; So does that mean that Commodore 64 can also "work with" Lynx?

01:04 highest_cubist_thrills; almost without question, its a matter of how close you can get them together

01:05 highest_cubist_thrills; and whether it would qualify

01:07 highest_cubist_thrills; i think its natalie wynn that said a woman using a hammer becomes woman-with-hammer

01:07 highest_cubist_thrills; so roy using lynx would become roy-with-lynx

01:08 highest_cubist_thrills; this a non-essentialist view but there are countless points in favor of this both in the tech community and other contexts i neednt mention here

01:08 highest_cubist_thrills; i think the subject was transhumanism

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01:09 highest_cubist_thrills; its not so much that i find the argument perfectly sways me

01:09 highest_cubist_thrills; as there are plenty of reasonable examples prior to the argument being made that make it a little less ridiculous than it sounds

01:10 highest_cubist_thrills; even when you drive a car

01:10 highest_cubist_thrills; the car becomes an extension of your body

01:10 highest_cubist_thrills; and you interface with it like its an extension of your body

01:10 highest_cubist_thrills; not at first

01:10 highest_cubist_thrills; but at the point where you stop thinking about the car-- and only think about driving

01:11 highest_cubist_thrills; the way you interface with your own body is the same

01:11 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean

01:11 highest_cubist_thrills; if you lose an arm, and get a robot arm

01:12 MinceR; 13 020741 < highest_cubist_thrills> so roy using lynx would become roy-with-lynx

01:12 MinceR; earth-with-plastic

01:12 highest_cubist_thrills; do you use it (conceptually) the same way you use your other arm, or is there some truly fundamental conceptual difference due to the fact that its artificial

01:13 MinceR; but can you run Lynx on a Camputers Lynx connected with an Atari Lynx?

01:13 starstreak; is there a gui version of lynx

01:13 highest_cubist_thrills; but can you run Lynx on a Camputers Lynx connected with an Atari Lynx? <- the real question is can you run lynx on an actual lynx? and will it maul you if you try

01:14 highest_cubist_thrills; is there a gui version of lynx <- theres a gui version of elinks

01:14 highest_cubist_thrills; you can run lynx on a gui term window

01:14 highest_cubist_thrills; what is lynx

01:14 highest_cubist_thrills; (baby dont hurt me, dont hurt me, no more)

01:14 starstreak; its a text browser

01:15 highest_cubist_thrills; i know, ive used it

01:15 starstreak; i just use firefox

01:15 highest_cubist_thrills; you can run lynx in firefox

01:17 highest_cubist_thrills; you can even run arch btw

01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

01:23 highest_cubist_thrills; i just use firefox <- does it run on a c64?

01:25 starstreak; i dont have a c64 so idgaf

01:26 MinceR; you'd need a lot of c64-s just to keep a bit of it in RAM

01:26 starstreak; the crappiest computer that I own is a raspi zero w

01:26 MinceR; i'm not sure if you could even help it out with swap

01:26 highest_cubist_thrills; im sure youd need more c64s every time they made a new version

01:26 highest_cubist_thrills; it keeps loner busy

01:26 MinceR; :>

01:27 MinceR; the slowest computer i own that isn't a microcontroller is probably a sinclair zx spectrum that i haven't even taken out of the cupboard in decades

01:27 highest_cubist_thrills; if you think he spends a lot of time waxing nostalgic about the third reich, you should see how much time he spends on ebay

01:28 highest_cubist_thrills; the slowest computer i own that isn't a microcontroller is probably a sinclair zx spectrum <- i really love the idea of lightweight hardware, i do

01:28 highest_cubist_thrills; with that said

01:28 highest_cubist_thrills; if i wanted to go back to 8bit, id just go back to 8bit

01:28 highest_cubist_thrills; my main regrets about not spending more time with it

01:29 highest_cubist_thrills; stem from the fact that people who played with 8bit tended to become more familar with the hardware

01:29 highest_cubist_thrills; and that familiarity often followed them through more elaborate models as hardware increased in complexity

01:29 highest_cubist_thrills; so today they know more about hardware in general

01:29 highest_cubist_thrills; simply getting a c64 (ive played with a few of them) wouldnt fix this

01:30 highest_cubist_thrills; id have to spend many years learning about them and other computers

01:30 MinceR; yeah, 8bit is not enough for me

01:30 highest_cubist_thrills; i really like dynamic typing

01:30 MinceR; i would stick to unix workstation class stuff

01:30 highest_cubist_thrills; i really like flat memory addressing

01:30 highest_cubist_thrills; so i mean

01:30 MinceR; i prefer virtual memory and memory protection

01:31 highest_cubist_thrills; a few years ago, i really wanted to put debian on a 486

01:31 highest_cubist_thrills; okay, like closer to 10 years ago

01:31 highest_cubist_thrills; and i used to have a 486, they used to be easier to find

01:31 highest_cubist_thrills; can i get one from ebay? sure, but theyre heavy

01:31 highest_cubist_thrills; that makes shipping costly

01:32 highest_cubist_thrills; can i get a 486 laptop? sure, that makes it less likely to have the loads of ram i want

01:32 highest_cubist_thrills; really putting together a 486 thats good for anything i want to do with it

01:32 highest_cubist_thrills; is a helly of a lot trickier to do than it is to just get a pentium

01:32 highest_cubist_thrills; really a hell of a lot

01:33 highest_cubist_thrills; so what do i get if i go 486?

01:33 highest_cubist_thrills; fuck if i know

01:33 highest_cubist_thrills; i ran an 8088 once

01:33 highest_cubist_thrills; learned to code on it

01:34 highest_cubist_thrills; what am i going to do with that

01:34 TR News; "Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 752 for the week of September 4 10, 2022." https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/09/12/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-752/ https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/09/12/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-752/

=> ↺ https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/09/12/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-752/
=> ↺ https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/09/12/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-752/

01:34 TR Bot; Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 752

01:34 highest_cubist_thrills; why not something with more power?

01:34 highest_cubist_thrills; real (practical) questions yield the best answers here

01:35 highest_cubist_thrills; and if you have an ideology, thats great-- you should still ask the right questions that yield the answers that make sense

01:35 highest_cubist_thrills; like herr doktor wants a chipset that you can design on paper

01:35 highest_cubist_thrills; thats fine

01:35 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont think he will ever fucking build that

01:36 highest_cubist_thrills; just to come here and whinge about how hitler is dead, wah wah

01:36 highest_cubist_thrills; but i designed this cpu with paper and pencil!

01:36 highest_cubist_thrills; not with a pen?

01:36 highest_cubist_thrills; no, pens are a stupid western conspiracy

01:37 highest_cubist_thrills; ink is for idiots

01:37 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, do you use gemini?

01:37 highest_cubist_thrills; im a fan of gemini, i told you about my adventures trying to get gemini running initially

01:37 highest_cubist_thrills; i havent given up, its just not a priority

01:37 highest_cubist_thrills; i think i also told you what i do in the meantime

01:38 starstreak; i just updated my gemini capsule today

01:38 highest_cubist_thrills; thats awesome

01:38 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont go on gemini much yet

01:38 highest_cubist_thrills; i have a client

01:38 highest_cubist_thrills; it works

01:38 highest_cubist_thrills; i use it infrequently

01:38 starstreak; i use lagrange btw

01:38 highest_cubist_thrills; lol

01:39 highest_cubist_thrills; i think i tried installing it

01:39 highest_cubist_thrills; just to try it

01:39 highest_cubist_thrills; id never use that behemoth regularly

01:39 starstreak; behemoth?

01:39 highest_cubist_thrills; there are fewer clients for openbsd, i ended up making one from spart parts

01:39 highest_cubist_thrills; lagrange uses opengl doesnt it?

01:40 starstreak; SDL

01:40 MinceR; Q: Did you hear about the constipated mathematician? A: He worked it out with a pencil.

01:40 highest_cubist_thrills; classic

01:40 TR News; (NEW): 3 Ways to Screenshot Right-Click Context Menus on Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/3_Ways_to_Screenshot_Right_Click_Context_Menus_on_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/3_Ways_to_Screenshot_Right_Click_Context_Menus_on_Linux.gmi

=> ↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/3_Ways_to_Screenshot_Right_Click_Context_Menus_on_Linux.shtml
=> ↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/3_Ways_to_Screenshot_Right_Click_Context_Menus_on_Linux.gmi

01:40 TR Bot; Tux Machines 3 Ways to Screenshot Right-Click Context Menus on Linux

01:40 starstreak; lagrange seemed quick and lightweight

01:40 highest_cubist_thrills; for what the protocol requires, lagrange is comically oversized

01:41 highest_cubist_thrills; like running gnome on a ti-83

01:41 starstreak; how big is it?

01:41 highest_cubist_thrills; it uses several libraries

01:41 highest_cubist_thrills; a gemini client doesnt need so many libraries

01:41 highest_cubist_thrills; it doesnt need a gui either

01:41 highest_cubist_thrills; im not against people using a gui to do gemini

01:42 highest_cubist_thrills; but really, whats larger than lagrange?

01:42 starstreak; i have it loaded and it uses 32mb of ram

01:42 highest_cubist_thrills; it might be the largest client there is

01:42 highest_cubist_thrills; so thats not so much ram

01:42 starstreak; 32mb of ram is too big?

01:42 TR News; "Let's look back at amusing story from Linux history, while Linux isn't perfect today this operating system used to be a usability nightmare for the average person." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DJiSDeGoLAQ

=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DJiSDeGoLAQ

01:42 TR Bot; Linux Was Once A Terrible Operating System - Invidious

01:42 highest_cubist_thrills; but these are the early days

01:42 highest_cubist_thrills; if it uses 32 now it will be 80 or 90 soon

01:42 starstreak; hexchat uses about 50

01:43 starstreak; discord uses 400mb

01:43 highest_cubist_thrills; discord is ridiculous

01:43 highest_cubist_thrills; but your hexchat comparison is reasonable

01:43 highest_cubist_thrills; thats a fair point

01:43 highest_cubist_thrills; i used to use sdl

01:43 highest_cubist_thrills; fwiw

01:43 highest_cubist_thrills; my own projects used it

01:44 MinceR; i used sdl once

01:44 starstreak; i remember installing lagrange and it didnt pull in very much for deps

01:44 MinceR; but that was a game

01:44 highest_cubist_thrills; but they were using it for graphics

01:44 MinceR; sdl is much better suited for games than for browsers

01:44 highest_cubist_thrills; "dude, have you ever like tried sdl?"-- joe rogan

01:44 TR News; At the cost/toll of toolchain bloat https://www.phoronix.com/news/LPC-2022-Rust-Linux also, they're becoming attached to Microsoft proprietary software, censorship etc.

=> ↺ https://www.phoronix.com/news/LPC-2022-Rust-Linux

01:44 TR Bot; 2022: Rust Linux Drivers Capable Of Achieving Performance Comparable To C Code - Phoronix

01:44 starstreak; SDL gives it the smooth scrolling

01:44 MinceR; "hitler took the sdl" -- alex jones

01:44 highest_cubist_thrills; sdl is making frogs gay!

01:45 highest_cubist_thrills; whenever i hear "smooth scrolling" i stick my fingers in my ears

01:45 MinceR; something should give it good font rendering with configurable fonts too

01:45 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont remember what kind of scrolling existed before smooth scrolling

01:45 highest_cubist_thrills; but it seemed smooth enough

01:45 TR News; Microsoft junk creeping into Linux https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/59960918-0adb-6d53-2d77-8172e666bf40@paragon-software.com/

=> ↺ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/59960918-0adb-6d53-2d77-8172e666bf40@paragon-software.com/

01:45 TR Bot; [PATCH 0/3] fs/ntfs3: Refactoring and hidedotfiles option - Konstantin Komarov

01:46 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6Whgn_iE5uc

=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6Whgn_iE5uc

01:46 TR Bot; Santana - Smooth ft. Rob Thomas (Official Video) - Invidious

01:46 starstreak; kristal seemed shitty to me, probably cuz its for kde

01:47 TR News; 'Linux' Foundation openwashing for Microsoft https://www.datanami.com/2022/09/12/linkedin-donates-feature-store-to-linux-foundation/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation

=> ↺ https://www.datanami.com/2022/09/12/linkedin-donates-feature-store-to-linux-foundation/
=> http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation

01:47 TR Bot; LinkedIn Donates Feature Store to Linux Foundation

01:47 TR Bot; Linux Foundation - Techrights

01:48 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah i dont think ill ever use kde again

01:48 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont even classify it as free software anymore

01:48 starstreak; why?

01:49 highest_cubist_thrills; because any project that took part in a conspiracy to destroy the free software movement needs to be forked before it qualifies as giving a shit about freedom

01:49 highest_cubist_thrills; and if it doesnt give a shit about freedom, its probably better off being labelled "open source"

01:49 highest_cubist_thrills; as a warning.

01:50 highest_cubist_thrills; surgeons general warning: this project will probably make fun of you for comparing telemetry to spyware, cancel your leaders, stab you in the back, and lie about everything while sucking off corporations

01:50 highest_cubist_thrills; who needs it

01:50 highest_cubist_thrills; fuck kde

01:50 highest_cubist_thrills; traitors

01:51 highest_cubist_thrills; and bloat anyway

01:51 starstreak; what conspiracy?

01:51 highest_cubist_thrills; really?

01:51 highest_cubist_thrills; /me waves hand around the domain name

01:51 highest_cubist_thrills; have you seen this website?

01:51 starstreak; yeah

01:51 highest_cubist_thrills; how about gnu.tools

01:51 highest_cubist_thrills; aka gnu.fools

01:52 highest_cubist_thrills; how about https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/

=> ↺ https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/

01:52 TR Bot; Is LibrePlanet Safe?

01:52 TR News; (NEW): AMD Utilizes User-Space Hinting To Achieve Faster EPYC CPU Performance in Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/AMD_Utilizes_User_Space_Hinting_To_Achieve_Faster_EPYC_CPU_Perf.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/AMD_Utilizes_User_Space_Hinting_To_Achieve_Faster_EPYC_CPU_Perf.gmi

=> ↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/AMD_Utilizes_User_Space_Hinting_To_Achieve_Faster_EPYC_CPU_Perf.shtml
=> ↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/AMD_Utilizes_User_Space_Hinting_To_Achieve_Faster_EPYC_CPU_Perf.gmi

01:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines AMD Utilizes User-Space Hinting To Achieve Faster EPYC CPU Performance in Linux

01:52 highest_cubist_thrills; because its been going on ever since then

01:53 starstreak; i use arch/gnome/wayland/systemd/pipewire

01:53 starstreak; i even use systemd-boot

01:53 highest_cubist_thrills; i know, youre fucking weird

01:53 starstreak; its free software idgaf

01:53 highest_cubist_thrills; no no no no

01:53 highest_cubist_thrills; once you add "idgaf" it isnt free at all

01:53 highest_cubist_thrills; you cant have free AND idgaf

01:53 highest_cubist_thrills; it wont work

01:54 highest_cubist_thrills; indeed it doesnt

01:54 highest_cubist_thrills; idgaf destroyed the movement

01:54 highest_cubist_thrills; its dead

01:54 highest_cubist_thrills; dead

01:54 highest_cubist_thrills; because ngaf

01:54 starstreak; maybe im weird

01:54 starstreak; i'd much rather use macOS

01:54 highest_cubist_thrills; give it a few years, who knows what will happen

01:54 highest_cubist_thrills; systemd is microsoft

01:55 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Security_Leftovers.gmi

=> ↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Security_Leftovers.shtml
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01:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers

01:55 highest_cubist_thrills; github and lennart is a fucking employee

01:55 highest_cubist_thrills; gnome is microsoft

01:55 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre basically hitmen

01:55 highest_cubist_thrills; if the mafia made an operating system

01:55 highest_cubist_thrills; thats what youre using

01:55 TR News; (NEW): Canonical/Ubuntu: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter and Debuginfod http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Canonical_Ubuntu_Ubuntu_Weekly_Newsletter_and_Debuginfod.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Canonical_Ubuntu_Ubuntu_Weekly_Newsletter_and_Debuginfod.gmi

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01:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Canonical/Ubuntu: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter and Debuginfod

01:55 highest_cubist_thrills; i use openbsd, btw

01:56 highest_cubist_thrills; but its only a step in the right direction

01:56 schestowitz[TR]; what happend to gnome OS?

01:56 highest_cubist_thrills; only a jump away from this fucking mess

01:56 schestowitz[TR]; not a work about it in years

01:56 schestowitz[TR]; at least a year

01:56 highest_cubist_thrills; and then a step the riiiiiiiiiight

01:56 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], they just turned gnome into gnomeOS

01:56 highest_cubist_thrills; what happend to gnome OS? <- its called debian now

01:56 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/today_s_howtos.gmi

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01:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

01:57 highest_cubist_thrills; schestowitz[TR], they just turned gnome into gnomeOS <- i was calling it gnome os before that, and i wasnt the only one

01:57 TR News; Proprietary https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/apple-fixes-10-bugs-including-two-zero-days-under-exploit.html

=> ↺ https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/apple-fixes-10-bugs-including-two-zero-days-under-exploit.html

01:57 MinceR; 13 025516 < highest_cubist_thrills> gnome is microsoft

01:57 highest_cubist_thrills; because it is

01:57 TR Bot; - Apple fixes 10 bugs including two zero-days under exploit

01:57 MinceR; https://i.imgur.com/pYuj8tW.png

=> ↺ https://i.imgur.com/pYuj8tW.png

01:57 starstreak; i actually like gnome tho

01:57 highest_cubist_thrills; if you made gnome into a godforsaken operating system...

01:57 MinceR; yeah, you've made it clear that you like crap :>

01:57 highest_cubist_thrills; i actually like gnome tho <- that IS weird

01:58 TR News; VMware fraud https://itwire.com/government-tech-news/technology-regulation/vmware-pays-fine-to-settle-sec-charge-of-misleading-investors.html

=> ↺ https://itwire.com/government-tech-news/technology-regulation/vmware-pays-fine-to-settle-sec-charge-of-misleading-investors.html

01:58 TR Bot; - VMware pays fine to settle SEC charge of misleading investors

01:58 highest_cubist_thrills; its funny, bcause i know youre always going to be like this

01:58 highest_cubist_thrills; but i like you anyway

01:58 starstreak; lots of people like gnome

01:58 TR News; How To Access The Dark Web (Using Tor) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zQW3MdF25B8 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/zQW3MdF25B8

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01:58 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre weird too

01:59 TR Bot; How To Access The Dark Web (Using Tor) - Invidious

01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.18 k/sec., IPFS upstream 55.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 174.86

01:59 starstreak; lol

01:59 highest_cubist_thrills; even im weird, but everybody knows that

01:59 starstreak; what do you use again?

01:59 highest_cubist_thrills; thats the difference

01:59 highest_cubist_thrills; they dont know theyre weird...

01:59 *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@fc65skp26a66s.irc) has joined #techrights

01:59 highest_cubist_thrills; what do you use again? <- i dont

01:59 starstreak; fvwm?

01:59 highest_cubist_thrills; gnome and kde are redundant layers of bloat

2 AM, September 13

02:00 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont use one

02:00 highest_cubist_thrills; oh, window manager

02:00 highest_cubist_thrills; dwm

02:00 starstreak; ah ok

02:00 highest_cubist_thrills; only because icewm brings in shit from gnome

02:00 highest_cubist_thrills; but really at this point id hate going back

02:00 highest_cubist_thrills; if you find a tiling wm you like

02:01 highest_cubist_thrills; the idea of having to move and resize all your stupid little windows again is awful

02:01 starstreak; sway is supposed to be good

02:01 highest_cubist_thrills; everything is supposed to be good

02:01 highest_cubist_thrills; "we know youre looking for an editor thats completely and utter shit, and finally we made you one!"

02:02 highest_cubist_thrills; "youll hate it, it wont do anything you want, it even requires systemd"

02:02 highest_cubist_thrills; "well at least it requires systemd1"

02:02 highest_cubist_thrills; "yeah, i mean thats one feature thats must-have these days"

02:02 *starstreak formats laptop and installs freebsd and mate

02:02 highest_cubist_thrills; "its probably very cutting edge!"

02:03 highest_cubist_thrills; its too bad debian shafted mate like they did

02:03 highest_cubist_thrills; they really are just gnomes little lapdogs

02:03 highest_cubist_thrills; debian: another microsoft distro

02:03 MinceR; i like being able to move and resize all my stupid little windows

02:04 highest_cubist_thrills; i like being able to move and resize all my stupid little windows <- yes, in theory so do i

02:04 MinceR; i tried i3 and didn't like it

02:04 highest_cubist_thrills; in practice, never again...

02:04 MinceR; i did write a script to resize/move windows into grid slots though, in case i wanted to

02:04 highest_cubist_thrills; technically you can move and resize every stupid little window in dwm

02:04 highest_cubist_thrills; i just dont want to

02:04 TR News; Apple easy to use? No! "Its been a bit tricky to get running on Apple Silicon Macs" https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/09/12/diffusion-bee

=> ↺ https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/09/12/diffusion-bee

02:04 TR Bot; Daring Fireball: Diffusion Bee 1.0: Easy to Install Stable Diffusion for Apple Silicon Macs

02:04 MinceR; and added a Grow button to my title bars, also to make use of empty areas

02:04 highest_cubist_thrills; i did write a script to resize/move windows into grid slots though, in case i wanted to <- thats always fun

02:04 highest_cubist_thrills; i was very impressed by what os/2 warp could do along these lines

02:04 highest_cubist_thrills; your script is probably better

02:05 highest_cubist_thrills; being decades newer

02:05 TR News; Apple = cliches

02:05 highest_cubist_thrills; honestly its a farce that every window system wasnt scriptable from day 1

02:05 TR News; Teachers Forum Condemns NCERTs Decision to Remove Chapters on Climate Change | NewsClick https://www.newsclick.in/Teacher-forum-condemns-NCERT-decision-remove-chapters-climate-change Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.newsclick.in/Teacher-forum-condemns-NCERT-decision-remove-chapters-climate-change

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02:05 TR Bot; Teachers Forum Condemns NCERTs Decision to Remove Chapters on Climate Change | NewsClick

02:06 TR News; Hope is dead - neritam https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/09/12/hope-is-dead/ Source: Neritam/Michael Moore

=> ↺ https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/09/12/hope-is-dead/

02:06 TR Bot; Hope is dead neritam

02:07 highest_cubist_thrills; /me moves one of his windows freely, then puts it back

02:07 TR News; "When those who expose the crimes of the state are criminalized and sent to prison, tyranny is inevitable." https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/when-the-just-go-to-prison

=> ↺ https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/when-the-just-go-to-prison

02:07 TR Bot; When The Just Go to Prison - The Chris Hedges Report

02:07 starstreak; i like mate too

02:07 highest_cubist_thrills; i liked gnome 2

02:07 highest_cubist_thrills; it was the last good version of gnome

02:07 TR News; (NEW): Videos Evolving GNU/Linux UIs, Installing Linux on a USB, and Accessing The Dark Web http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Videos_Evolving_GNU_Linux_UIs_Installing_Linux_on_a_USB_and_Acc.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Videos_Evolving_GNU_Linux_UIs_Installing_Linux_on_a_USB_and_Acc.gmi

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02:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos Evolving GNU/Linux UIs, Installing Linux on a USB, and Accessing The Dark Web

02:08 starstreak; i had a freebsd+mate vm and it was using 385mb ram which was pretty fly

02:08 MinceR; i liked gnome 1 (or maybe 0.99)

02:08 MinceR; it was the last good version of gnome

02:08 highest_cubist_thrills; before neil mcgovern had that horrible accident and was mauled to death by 100 badgers

02:08 highest_cubist_thrills; i liked gnome 1 (or maybe 0.99) it was the last good version of gnom <- we can quibble

02:08 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D700.jpg

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02:08 MinceR; :>

02:08 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D352.jpg

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02:09 highest_cubist_thrills; hell if you said "there never was a good version of gnome" i wouldnt argue

02:09 starstreak; what about enlightenment?

02:09 highest_cubist_thrills; i never liked it really

02:09 TR News; "I just published a page on this capsule to list my favourites from Kristall (Gemini Browser). There are some interesting stuff there that you could use as a starting point on your Gemini voyage. :)" gemini://ivanodintsoff.smol.pub/favourites-from-kristall

=> ↺ gemini://ivanodintsoff.smol.pub/favourites-from-kristall

02:09 MinceR; it had multiple panels, child panels, collapsing a panel into a button at its end, automatically collapsing panels, swallowing arbitrary windows into the panel

02:09 MinceR; it let you switch wm-s from the control center

02:09 MinceR; it was everything gnome 2+ wasn't

02:10 highest_cubist_thrills; theres an episode of classic star trek where spock and kirk get the hang of an alien computer

02:10 highest_cubist_thrills; that i always think of when people mention enlightenment

02:10 TR News; "The debate between upstream and downstream packaging rages on, especially as of late. I thought I'd express some frustration at some third party repositories I've tried to install lately and what went wrong." gemini://remyabel.srht.site/posts/2022-09-12.gmi

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02:10 MinceR; it had none of this stupid "let's remove printer settings because they might confuse a simpleton!"

02:10 highest_cubist_thrills; i think it should be easier to get used to a window manager / de than switching from gnu/linux to bsd

02:10 highest_cubist_thrills; but it wasnt

02:10 MinceR; enlightenment was the slowest wm i've ever seen on x

02:10 MinceR; not sure if it's slower than windows, probably not

02:10 highest_cubist_thrills; it had none of this stupid "let's remove printer settings because they might confuse a simpleton!" <- yes. well

02:11 highest_cubist_thrills; gnome designers are some of the dumbest people on earth

02:11 highest_cubist_thrills; they would remove an eject button from a plane because it might confuse someone

02:11 MinceR; and enlightenment also let me choose between "pop up a massive distracting tooltip often" and "forget how to do things"

02:11 MinceR; gnome used to copy kde, that's when it was goo

02:11 MinceR; d

02:11 MinceR; now gnome copies macos and kde copies gnome

02:11 highest_cubist_thrills; i thought gnome came first, but i honestly dont know

02:12 highest_cubist_thrills; kde copies gnome <- gnome is ibm, if you dont copy them youre fucked

02:13 MinceR; then i'm fucked

02:13 highest_cubist_thrills; at least youre not using gnome though

02:13 MinceR; kde came first, the original purpose of gnome was to do what kde does, but with free software

02:13 MinceR; (Qt was proprietary back then)

02:14 highest_cubist_thrills; too bad they forgot the free software part

02:14 highest_cubist_thrills; probably something about having bills dick in their mouth 24/7

02:15 highest_cubist_thrills; gnome: 101 redundant layers of increased efficiency!

02:15 highest_cubist_thrills; all of which are mandatory

02:16 highest_cubist_thrills; "if you want to know what gnome is, its a bare foot stomping on a users face, forever"

02:17 MinceR; yeah

02:17 TR News; (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi

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02:17 TR Bot; Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest

02:17 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Today_in_Techrights.gmi

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02:17 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights

02:17 highest_cubist_thrills; with that said

02:18 highest_cubist_thrills; even i didnt hate gnome 2

02:18 highest_cubist_thrills; i can see why someone would though

02:18 highest_cubist_thrills; id like to see a fork of mate thats lighter :)

02:18 highest_cubist_thrills; mate fans neednt worry, mate will probably never be forked

02:18 highest_cubist_thrills; it will be a miracle if its maintained

02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

02:20 highest_cubist_thrills; id like to see a fork of gnome 1 but im sure the libraries it needs are much too incompatible

02:20 highest_cubist_thrills; which says a lot about guis in general

02:20 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre like disposable razors

02:20 highest_cubist_thrills; they create loads of waste and when youre done, you throw them away because theres fuck-all else you can do with them

02:21 highest_cubist_thrills; now, i dont want this to be true-- i dont think it has to be

02:21 highest_cubist_thrills; x11 is a straight razor obviously

02:21 highest_cubist_thrills; it hurts to use and if you try to open it up, youll get blood all over the place

02:21 highest_cubist_thrills; but its been around forever

02:22 schestowitz[TR]; x11 is neatly built they say

02:22 schestowitz[TR]; well structured

02:22 schestowitz[TR]; if you open it up

02:22 schestowitz[TR]; not sure aboyt wayland

02:22 highest_cubist_thrills; who said that, joe rogan?

02:22 schestowitz[TR]; no

02:22 schestowitz[TR]; developers who work with it

02:22 highest_cubist_thrills; im sure wayland is nearly useless

02:22 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont want it

02:22 highest_cubist_thrills; but i dont believe x11 is "neatly" anything

02:23 highest_cubist_thrills; it works and im grateful

02:23 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/today_s_leftovers.gmi

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02:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers

02:24 TR News; Links 12/09/2022: New in KDE Plasma 5.26, Istio Has New Releases | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/12/istio-has-new-releases/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/12/istio-has-new-releases/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/09/12/istio-has-new-releases/
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02:24 TR Bot; Links 12/09/2022: New in KDE Plasma 5.26, Istio Has New Releases | Techrights

02:24 highest_cubist_thrills; its forkable

02:24 highest_cubist_thrills; so theres that

02:24 highest_cubist_thrills; and hey

02:24 highest_cubist_thrills; it goes up to 11

02:25 schestowitz[TR]; systems will be 200 soon

02:25 schestowitz[TR]; and still not stable

02:25 schestowitz[TR]; more support to sell

02:25 schestowitz[TR]; azure went offlike recernt

02:25 schestowitz[TR]; recently

02:25 schestowitz[TR]; no DNS

02:25 schestowitz[TR]; after systemd fuckup

02:25 highest_cubist_thrills; heres some broken shit, thanks for flying the azure express

02:25 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, they changed to systemd doing dns

02:26 schestowitz[TR]; and it didn't work

02:26 highest_cubist_thrills; ibm bought red hat

02:26 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe microsoft will buy debian

02:26 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean they already own it

02:26 starstreak; microsoft is more likely to buy canonical

02:26 highest_cubist_thrills; but they could be more explicit about it

02:26 highest_cubist_thrills; microsoft is more likely to buy canonical <- close enough

02:27 highest_cubist_thrills; if you sent canonical into orbit, debian might collapse (at this point)

02:27 starstreak; Microsoft Linux 24.04 LTS with powershell, vscode, mono, edge

02:27 highest_cubist_thrills; if microsoft bought canonical, they would effectively own debian

02:27 starstreak; canonical doesn't own debian

02:27 highest_cubist_thrills; its sort of like owning someone by purchasing their foot

02:28 highest_cubist_thrills; but whats a shackle, whats an ankle bracelet

02:28 highest_cubist_thrills; its not like debian would free itself

02:28 highest_cubist_thrills; they had a chance to do that 8 years ago

02:28 highest_cubist_thrills; they didnt bother

02:28 schestowitz[TR]; https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1568592701796261888

=> ↺ https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1568592701796261888

02:28 TR Bot; I've noticed that too. It's Novell's SUSE all over again: Latest Ubuntu Promotes Microsoft's Proprietary Software https://t.co/Q0HKD0Z41x

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02:28 TR Bot; I've noticed that too. It's Novell's SUSE all over again: Latest Ubuntu Promotes Microsoft's Proprietary Software https://t.co/Q0HKD0Z41x

=> ↺ https://t.co/Q0HKD0Z41x

02:28 highest_cubist_thrills; debian is a hostage of gnome and canonical

02:28 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre happy to be

02:28 highest_cubist_thrills; they have stockholm syndrome

02:28 highest_cubist_thrills; so does rms

02:28 highest_cubist_thrills; literal stockholm syndrome

02:29 highest_cubist_thrills; https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/ <- that stupid woman

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02:29 TR Bot; ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/ )

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02:29 highest_cubist_thrills; how old is she?

02:29 schestowitz[TR]; who?

02:29 schestowitz[TR]; oh

02:29 highest_cubist_thrills; christine

02:29 schestowitz[TR]; christine

02:29 schestowitz[TR]; no idea

02:29 highest_cubist_thrills; she looks like the queen

02:30 highest_cubist_thrills; im sure the queen was a nicer person

02:30 schestowitz[TR]; https://twitter.com/Agee_m0iga/status/1568157085681999872

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02:30 TR Bot; Canonical w #ububtu promuje zamknite oprogramowanie Mcrosoftu https://t.co/VihyimO777

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02:30 TR Bot; techrights.org | Latest Ubuntu Promotes Microsofts Proprietary Software | Techrights

02:30 highest_cubist_thrills; never heard of agee

02:30 highest_cubist_thrills; roy doesnt pay attention to twitter

02:30 schestowitz[TR]; https://twitter.com/MarconSunday/status/1567891841416036354

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02:30 TR Bot; Paranoid post: https://t.co/BSnllXfwjh

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02:30 highest_cubist_thrills; its completely useless noise

02:31 schestowitz[TR]; https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1566779822252204032

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02:31 TR Bot; Stallman et la souverainet de l'Etat https://t.co/oPJ3S4sxgr

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02:31 TR Bot; techrights.org | [FR] Richard Stallmans Talk This Past Summer in France (There Were More Such Talks) | Techrights

02:32 schestowitz[TR]; https://twitter.com/aifesteves/status/1566353236520583169

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02:32 TR Bot; Executivos da Microsoft Tomam a Linux Foundation e triplicam a si prprios os ordenados. https://t.co/R4okYSzVmv

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02:32 TR Bot; techrights.org | Jim Zemlins Salary More Than Doubled in Just 5 Years (From $500,000 to $1,150,000 in Six Years), Unlike Linus Torvalds | Techrights

02:33 schestowitz[TR]; https://twitter.com/BettyLoo15/status/1566651845962911748

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02:33 TR Bot; There's these: https://t.co/nG5hQqTaqI & https://t.co/ddVU8gKaVx Creepy bastard... https://t.co/viOAVW2sLv https://t.co/t4GwJDQIQX

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02:33 TR Bot; techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia Part I: Bill Gates Has Plenty to Hide. Money and Connections Have Helped. | Techrights

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02:36 MinceR; 13 032507 < schestowitz[TR]> and still not stable

02:36 TR News; "During the last few days we have been receiving messages from Ukrainian free software activists and supporters of Richard Stallman whose lives have been shattered by war." https://stallmansupport.org/letter-from-bomb-shelter-ukraine.html

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02:36 TR Bot; Letter from Bomb Shelter in Ukraine | Stallman Support

02:36 MinceR; fedora's been forcing it on users for 11 years and it's still not stable

02:37 MinceR; deadian's been forcing it on users for 7 years and it's still not stable

02:37 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: While you're having fun with your gas bills and Liz Trump cutting taxes on people that aren't you......

02:37 MinceR; arch btw has been forcing it on users for 10 years and it's still not stable

02:37 DaemonFC; Looks like our landlord is listing a unit next door for $200 more than we pay. I think it's bigger, but still....

02:37 DaemonFC; That's not good.

02:38 MinceR; 13 032839 < highest_cubist_thrills> theyre happy to be

02:38 TR News; "Huge wins for RISC-V and Ubuntu Unity, the changing ways that software is distributed, and a sad lament for young peoples privacy. Plus why KDE Plasma isnt default in many major distros, along with the usual goodness in the Korner." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-194/

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02:38 TR Bot; Late Night Linux Episode 194 Late Night Linux

02:38 DaemonFC; Mandy and I are each getting $50 Prickster Bucks.

02:38 MinceR; probably everyone who cared about software freedom left deadian long ago

02:38 DaemonFC; That'll be like 2 weeks worth of the rent increase.

02:38 DaemonFC; :)

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02:38 DaemonFC; I hope the grocery tax repeal becomes permanent, but I don't plan on it.

02:39 DaemonFC; It's symbolic though, like everything else.

02:39 DaemonFC; If you spend $600 a month on groceries, you save $6. Woohoo.

02:39 MinceR; if something not pushed by MICROS~1 or dehomag or intHell had spent 7 years being unstable, the cult of the "modern" would be all up in arms to toss it out.

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02:40 DaemonFC; Coffee prices shot WAAAAAY up. I bought an entire case pack of coffee from Amazon that was nearing expiration .

02:40 DaemonFC; It's still fine to drink for a year or two past. Done it before.

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02:40 highest_cubist_thrills; probably everyone who cared about software freedom left deadian long ago <- all thats left is to translate this into latin

02:40 DaemonFC; Cut coffee in the morning by ~20%.

02:41 DaemonFC; I usually made like 5 cups, but I noticed I didn't always drink it all.

02:41 highest_cubist_thrills; arch btw has been forcing it on users for 10 years and it's still not stable <- the only thing about arch is that

02:41 DaemonFC; If I make 4 cups, then it always all gets used.

02:41 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-120922.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-120922.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-120922.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-120922.txt

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02:41 highest_cubist_thrills; when debian targets its foot for demolition you can feel the disturbance in the force

02:42 MinceR; you could

02:42 highest_cubist_thrills; when you break something in arch, its hard to tell if its sabotage or simply an update.

02:42 MinceR; but deadian hasn't had feet for 7 years

02:42 MinceR; when something breaks in arch btw, can you even tell?

02:42 highest_cubist_thrills; thats my point

02:42 MinceR; there must be so many things already broken in there

02:42 MinceR; some of them intentionally

02:42 DaemonFC; http://toastytech.com/guis/adesk12.html

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02:42 highest_cubist_thrills; right, but, the outcome of that is

02:42 TR Bot; Apple II Desktop 1.2 Prealpha

02:42 highest_cubist_thrills; arch is never completely integrated with anything

02:43 DaemonFC; "Modifying it was not easy." Well, it was possible, which is not usually the case for proprietary software.

02:43 highest_cubist_thrills; so if you switch to say, another init system

02:43 highest_cubist_thrills; so what? now you have a different init system that also isnt reliable

02:43 MinceR; seems to be integrated with the landfill

02:43 highest_cubist_thrills; no big deal

02:43 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont know, ive never used arch btw for very long

02:43 DaemonFC; The worst part of dealing with 6502 assembler is, I'm sure, that since Apple intended it to run directly, they were kind enough to strip the comments.

02:43 MinceR; but i don't know how hard pacman twists your arm if you try to use something heretical

02:44 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/howtos.gmi

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02:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

02:44 highest_cubist_thrills; there was obarun but "we" talked about what happened ot that

02:44 MinceR; (probably installed by hand, because i doubt they keep in the repos something they deem to be heretical)

02:44 highest_cubist_thrills; pacman is probably the main reason i never spent much time with arch btw

02:44 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-09-12.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-09-12.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)

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02:45 highest_cubist_thrills; i doubt they keep in the repos something they deem to be heretica <- in theory at least, aur is the very opposite of what youre saying

02:45 MinceR; i know apt will try to blow up your entire system if you try to get rid of cancerd

02:45 highest_cubist_thrills; in practice, idk

02:45 highest_cubist_thrills; i know apt will try to blow up your entire system if you try to get rid of cancerd <- andys package tool

02:45 MinceR; who would maintain something arch btw users don't believe in in AUR? and how, and why?

02:45 highest_cubist_thrills; andy is the artificial intelligence capable of exploding in red vs blue

02:46 highest_cubist_thrills; who would maintain something arch btw users don't believe in in AUR <- aur is fairly anarchist afaik

02:46 highest_cubist_thrills; i could have this wrong-- if i thought i did, i woudlnt say it

02:47 highest_cubist_thrills; if im not wrong, its only a little harder to get something into aur than it is to get something into like...

02:47 highest_cubist_thrills; a distribution of puppy linux

02:47 TR News; Feeling Creative gemini://themby.smol.pub/2022-09-12

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02:47 highest_cubist_thrills; and only a little harder because the packaging system really demands metadata of some kind, while puppy... i mean, its puppy

02:47 highest_cubist_thrills; and now that puppy doesnt have the murga forums

02:47 TR News; "This weeks episode of Destination Linux, were going to be discussing ways projects can use on how to make money in Open Source. Then we will be discussing issues with GNOMEs data collection ambitions. Plus, we have our tips/tricks and software picks." https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-294/

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02:47 TR Bot; 8 Ways to Make Money with Open Source - Destination Linux - TuxDigital

02:48 highest_cubist_thrills; who knows what will happen to that

02:48 highest_cubist_thrills; puppy has been losing people to things like mx/antix

02:48 highest_cubist_thrills; hardcore fans i mean

02:48 highest_cubist_thrills; it may have a long halflife, but nothing holds the project together

02:48 highest_cubist_thrills; (except github)

02:48 TR News; "I want to publish zines, and rage against the machine..." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1128

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02:49 highest_cubist_thrills; it will probably outlast gnu of course

02:49 highest_cubist_thrills; i give gnu until 2029 to collapse

02:50 schestowitz[TR]; collapse as in?

02:50 schestowitz[TR]; no users?

02:50 highest_cubist_thrills; collapse as in

02:50 highest_cubist_thrills; no structure

02:50 schestowitz[TR]; github might collapse by then

02:50 schestowitz[TR]; lack of business model

02:50 schestowitz[TR]; and microsoft having many layoffs

02:51 schestowitz[TR]; hoe is skype doing btw

02:51 highest_cubist_thrills; youll still be saying tht in 2029

02:51 schestowitz[TR]; ?

02:51 schestowitz[TR]; how is skype?

02:51 schestowitz[TR]; universal VOIP?\

02:51 highest_cubist_thrills; skype isnt important

02:51 schestowitz[TR]; no? not anymore?

02:51 highest_cubist_thrills; skype was not part of a 20-year-old plan to destroy the free software movement

02:51 highest_cubist_thrills; github is

02:53 highest_cubist_thrills; also, if you had said that the pro-stallman letter would have roughtly twice as many signatures

02:54 highest_cubist_thrills; obviously, you would have been correct

02:54 highest_cubist_thrills; but even so, youd still get that wrong

02:54 highest_cubist_thrills; in two ways

02:54 highest_cubist_thrills; 1. it wasnt a vote, and some of those sigs were from entire orgs-- which doesnt mean you can count every member, thoguh thats not the point either

02:54 highest_cubist_thrills; the fact that its not a vote matters

02:55 highest_cubist_thrills; 2. everyone on that list is still working against us

02:55 highest_cubist_thrills; including the orgs

02:55 *schestowitz[TR] back

02:55 schestowitz[TR]; <highest_cubist_thrills> github is

02:55 highest_cubist_thrills; its not like they said "shit, we are outnumbered! i guess we LOST"

02:55 schestowitz[TR]; wait, github did not start like this

02:56 MinceR; 13 035047 < schestowitz[TR]> lack of business model

02:56 schestowitz[TR]; in 2014 microsoft thought of buying it

02:56 MinceR; i thought they had a business model

02:56 highest_cubist_thrills; it doesnt matter that github didnt start like this

02:56 schestowitz[TR]; but 20 years ago there was no github at all

02:56 highest_cubist_thrills; it has been like that since 2014

02:56 schestowitz[TR]; git was getting off the groun

02:56 MinceR; "bleed money but get to have users"

02:56 schestowitz[TR]; right

02:56 schestowitz[TR]; and now see gitLAB

02:56 schestowitz[TR]; they wanted to kill off "stale" projects

02:56 MinceR; those sociopaths will give anything for a chance to call someone their user

02:56 MinceR; MICROS~1, that is

02:56 highest_cubist_thrills; microsoft has always been happy to bleed money in exchange for controlling countless people

02:56 schestowitz[TR]; next comes, kill off 'free' accounts

02:56 schestowitz[TR]; and sourcehub went down that route

02:57 highest_cubist_thrills; those sociopaths will give anything for a chance to call someone their user <-

02:57 schestowitz[TR]; no changes? no account

02:57 schestowitz[TR]; or pay up

02:57 MinceR; (except, of course, develop a product or service worth using)

02:57 schestowitz[TR]; same for vimeo

02:57 schestowitz[TR]; maybe gulagtube will be next

02:57 highest_cubist_thrills; sourcehub didnt have enough critical mass

02:57 schestowitz[TR]; turns out ina rotting economy you cannot justify losing BILLIONS of dollars FOREVER

02:57 MinceR; that's fine, humanity won't be around forever

02:57 highest_cubist_thrills; saying that github will fail because sourcehub did, is a lot like saying windows will fail, because dos did

02:58 schestowitz[TR]; nor will cats

02:58 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean windows will fail-- eventually

02:58 schestowitz[TR]; no

02:58 schestowitz[TR]; it is failing

02:58 schestowitz[TR]; it's a process

02:58 schestowitz[TR]; you can meausre it

02:58 schestowitz[TR]; it won't happen overnight

02:58 highest_cubist_thrills; but that has nothing to do woth dos, and github has nothing to do with sourcehub

02:58 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft-bribed media won't mention the process

02:58 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> it is failing <- oh yes

02:58 highest_cubist_thrills; of course it is

02:58 schestowitz[TR]; github still LOSES money

02:58 schestowitz[TR]; there is no business model

02:58 highest_cubist_thrills; just like the coup

02:58 schestowitz[TR]; not a viable one

02:59 schestowitz[TR]; start charging users, they flee

02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.01 k/sec., IPFS upstream 68.90 average k/sec., average swarm size 179.70

02:59 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft tries using skype and linkedi to kickstart stuff

02:59 highest_cubist_thrills; you dont understand how corporate subsidising works at all

02:59 schestowitz[TR]; like teams

02:59 schestowitz[TR]; "for business"

02:59 schestowitz[TR]; minecraft is ssjust an attempt to keep kids off other platforms

02:59 highest_cubist_thrills; subsidies arent profitable the same way other things are

02:59 highest_cubist_thrills; but you judge their effectiveness based on the usual rules

02:59 highest_cubist_thrills; which is honestly stupid

02:59 schestowitz[TR]; and the whole "we must control games" spiel, wherein they tell you linux "bad" "cox games"

3 AM, September 13

03:00 highest_cubist_thrills; subsidies are profitable

03:00 schestowitz[TR]; *coz

03:00 highest_cubist_thrills; but not in the same way as other things

03:00 schestowitz[TR]; they need to show a turnaround though

03:00 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> minecraft is ssjust an attempt to keep kids off other platforms <- so is github

03:00 schestowitz[TR]; mitchell did an article about it in techjrights

03:00 highest_cubist_thrills; so is windows

03:00 schestowitz[TR]; azure is not showing return

03:00 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah

03:00 schestowitz[TR]; so they hide the financial side

03:00 schestowitz[TR]; or blend it with many unrelated things

03:01 highest_cubist_thrills; microsoft has a mountain of handwavey bullshit

03:01 schestowitz[TR]; right

03:01 highest_cubist_thrills; which they rebrand every 5-10 years

03:01 highest_cubist_thrills; which is now called azure

03:01 schestowitz[TR]; brb coiffee rready

03:01 highest_cubist_thrills; and it never turns a profit

03:01 highest_cubist_thrills; and they always lie

03:01 highest_cubist_thrills; and then they rebrand it

03:01 highest_cubist_thrills; thats microsoft

03:02 highest_cubist_thrills; but you call that failuer

03:02 highest_cubist_thrills; and i call it microsoft

03:02 highest_cubist_thrills; if it was failure, why are they still doing it

03:02 highest_cubist_thrills; because its microsoft

03:02 highest_cubist_thrills; and failure is their #1 product

03:02 highest_cubist_thrills; and theyre doing fine, sadly

03:03 highest_cubist_thrills; until you figure that out, youre always going to get microsoft wrong

03:03 highest_cubist_thrills; and people who believe your take will also get it wrong

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03:06 highest_cubist_thrills; starstreak https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qM_r-cJ-JZI

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03:06 TR Bot; Mike Love "Babylon Control" - Invidious

03:07 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, microsoft uses ubuntu for WSL

03:07 highest_cubist_thrills; i know, its horrible

03:07 schestowitz[TR]; ?

03:07 schestowitz[TR]; WSL is not just Ubuntu

03:08 schestowitz[TR]; WSL is WIndows

03:08 schestowitz[TR]; with some junk thrown on it

03:08 schestowitz[TR]; like a poorly done VM

03:08 highest_cubist_thrills; ubuntu = junk

03:08 schestowitz[TR]; WSL is obsolete

03:08 schestowitz[TR]; there is NO PURPOSE for it

03:08 highest_cubist_thrills; so is windows

03:08 schestowitz[TR]; the only dif is

03:08 schestowitz[TR]; virtualbox and iso takes longer

03:08 highest_cubist_thrills; yo dawg, we herd you like junk

03:08 schestowitz[TR]; then MS/Windows "store"

03:09 schestowitz[TR]; WSL will die in a year

03:09 schestowitz[TR]; or 5

03:09 highest_cubist_thrills; or 10

03:09 highest_cubist_thrills; (probably less than 10)

03:09 highest_cubist_thrills; or 20!

03:09 schestowitz[TR]; we hypothetise maybe they partly killed it already

03:09 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]how is skype?

03:09 schestowitz[TR]; as part of the latest wave of layoffs

03:09 schestowitz[TR]; about 18000 fired

03:09 DaemonFC; I haven't had anyone ask me to use it in about 10 years.

03:09 highest_cubist_thrills; failure is their #1 product

03:09 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: exactly

03:10 schestowitz[TR]; the mnedia... silent

03:10 schestowitz[TR]; like fig says, the "big story" is there

03:10 schestowitz[TR]; but ignored

03:10 highest_cubist_thrills; the media is worthless

03:10 schestowitz[TR]; we constantly write about the demise of Windows

03:10 schestowitz[TR]; seems like a big story, no?

03:10 schestowitz[TR]; media pretends it never happened

03:10 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 98383 total Total number of pages in capsule: 42563 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 1 months 9 days ago

03:10 schestowitz[TR]; if windows fell to 10% market sharem,

03:11 schestowitz[TR]; there would STILL be not single press article discussing it

03:11 highest_cubist_thrills; thats because theres no line left

03:11 schestowitz[TR]; but ten article about outsourcing to gothub

03:11 schestowitz[TR]; like FB today

03:11 highest_cubist_thrills; between media and marketing

03:11 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre the same thing

03:11 schestowitz[TR]; *ten articcles

03:11 schestowitz[TR]; yes, PR took over news sites

03:11 highest_cubist_thrills; like 100 years ago when you would get pcmag

03:11 schestowitz[TR]; and it looks accordingly shallow

03:11 schestowitz[TR]; IT Jungle is just 100% IBM propaganda

03:11 highest_cubist_thrills; and it was the better part of an inch thick

03:11 highest_cubist_thrills; and half of it was ads

03:11 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 33 GB TotalOut: 8.9 GB

03:12 schestowitz[TR]; and they don't disclosure that

03:12 highest_cubist_thrills; thats the media

03:12 schestowitz[TR]; Mitchell (MS WBer) points out the largest expense at Microsoft is media

03:12 schestowitz[TR]; buying the media

03:12 schestowitz[TR]; to "look big"!

03:12 highest_cubist_thrills; wber?

03:12 schestowitz[TR]; whistlewblowe

03:12 highest_cubist_thrills; /me nods

03:12 schestowitz[TR]; rI can find the articles

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03:12 *schestowitz[TR] sits down

03:12 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.

03:13 highest_cubist_thrills; ive already read him

03:13 schestowitz[TR]; (less typos)

03:13 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah its funny how posture affects typographic quality

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03:13 highest_cubist_thrills; when im too relaxed it goes right to shit

03:14 highest_cubist_thrills; not that being overexcited helps either

03:14 DaemonFC_; WHOA

03:14 highest_cubist_thrills; good posture means your fingers are over the right keys

03:14 schestowitz[TR]; the anti-RMS people... still ignore worse from Microsoft

03:14 highest_cubist_thrills; if yorue too relaxed, who know where the fuck they are

03:14 highest_cubist_thrills; the anti-RMS people... still ignore worse from Microsoft <- they dont care about freedom

03:15 schestowitz[TR]; or ethics

03:15 highest_cubist_thrills; or ethics

03:15 highest_cubist_thrills; thats the state of free software

03:15 highest_cubist_thrills; it wasnt in the speech

03:15 schestowitz[TR]; nor does th e media

03:15 schestowitz[TR]; "me too"

03:15 highest_cubist_thrills; the media is useless

03:15 schestowitz[TR]; only when it suits them

03:15 highest_cubist_thrills; its just marketing

03:15 schestowitz[TR]; panama papers

03:15 schestowitz[TR]; only when it shames "official enemies"

03:15 schestowitz[TR]; not people like gates

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; heree is an example

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; a story the media turned down

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; about microsoft SERIAL STRANGLER

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03:16 schestowitz[TR]; or women

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; where was mjg59_ ?

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:17] zemlin deleted all his tweets

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:17] I wrote about it xxxx

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:17] http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/jim-zemlin-cancels-himself/

=> http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/jim-zemlin-cancels-himself/

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:18] seems to have sent 'Linux' Foundation into panic mode

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:18] later in the same day and day after

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:18] Zemlin made a public statement

03:16 TR Bot; Jim Zemlin Has Deleted All of His Tweets | Techrights

03:16 highest_cubist_thrills; thats not useful to marketing

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:18] very unusual for him

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:18] same day: http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/linux-foundation-irs/

=> http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/linux-foundation-irs/

03:16 TR Bot; No Linux Foundation IRS Disclosures Since 2018 | Techrights

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:19] Yeah I don't really have too much of a horse in that race

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:20] I kind of care I just don't really know enough[03:25] Yeah I can't really follow what zemlin did wrong[03:25] try the wiki

03:16 DaemonFC; I just had my first total system crash in 16 years.

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:25] http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation#December_2021

=> http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation#December_2021

03:16 TR Bot; Linux Foundation - Techrights

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:28] Sorry I lost you again[03:28] [21:27:55] xxxx: I'm trying to get the police report for arrest he "might" have spent multiple days in jail

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:28] is that you to me?

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:29] or something else?

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:29] Apparently it takes 13 days after the arrest to get the pictures

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:29] I sent that to you

03:16 DaemonFC; Things started getting really flaky when I started an Android runtime in Flatpak.

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:29] Alex may have spent multiple days in jail

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:29] We don't have the police report yet for the arrest

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; [03:30] My understanding is that if someone spent multiple days in jail it either means they couldn't afford bail

03:17 schestowitz[TR]; [03:30] Unlikely it was only like $25k[03:30] 10% down if you use a bails bondsman[03:30] The other reason to spend multiple days in jail is resisting arrest[03:31] I see

03:17 schestowitz[TR]; [03:31] https://www.austintexas.gov/police/mug_shots/index.cfm

=> ↺ https://www.austintexas.gov/police/mug_shots/index.cfm

03:17 TR Bot; Booking Photo Database Search | AustinTexas.gov

03:17 schestowitz[TR]; [03:31] It says they post mugshots 13 days after arrest[03:32] [03:28] [21:27:55] xxxxxx: I'm trying to get the police report for arrest he "might" have spent multiple days in jail

03:17 highest_cubist_thrills; ifhonestly

03:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]where was mjg59_ ?

03:17 highest_cubist_thrills; alex gravely could literally kill half a dozen people

03:17 highest_cubist_thrills; it wouldnt affect github

03:17 schestowitz[TR]; yeah

03:17 DaemonFC; In the bathroom at the open source conference making sure he wasn't "missing out".

03:17 schestowitz[TR]; and he would keep his job

03:17 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont know

03:17 schestowitz[TR]; protected by ther microsoft mole inside the LF board

03:17 highest_cubist_thrills; but it woudlnt affect github

03:17 schestowitz[TR]; she is still there too, btw

03:18 highest_cubist_thrills; the linux farce

03:18 highest_cubist_thrills; the linux fabrication

03:18 highest_cubist_thrills; gotta save farce for christine

03:18 highest_cubist_thrills; fossfarce

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; rms, begone -- MICROSOFT github pettiionb

03:19 highest_cubist_thrills; by antichristine and brusque bilefield

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; signed by http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/headhunting-matthew-garrett/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/headhunting-matthew-garrett/

03:19 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: Don't miss out now.

03:19 TR Bot; Microsoft is Trying to Hire (Read: Pay Salaries to) Matthew Garrett | Techrights

03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

03:20 schestowitz[TR]; petition managed by elana hamasman from azure http://techrights.org/2022/08/19/elana-hashman-cancel-culture/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/08/19/elana-hashman-cancel-culture/

03:20 TR Bot; IBM/Azures Elana Hashman, Only Two Months After Starting a Campaign to Delete RMS, Said Israel Should Not Exist | Techrights

03:20 highest_cubist_thrills; auntie christine

03:21 schestowitz[TR]; <highest_cubist_thrills> the linux farce

03:21 schestowitz[TR]; <highest_cubist_thrills> the linux fabrication

03:21 schestowitz[TR]; go to foss force

03:21 schestowitz[TR]; ANY page

03:21 schestowitz[TR]; watch the LF ads

03:21 schestowitz[TR]; you might say,

03:21 schestowitz[TR]; OK, so fossforce takes money to shill an LF disploma mill

03:21 schestowitz[TR]; but it's worse

03:21 schestowitz[TR]; because christine knows what they ae

03:21 schestowitz[TR]; but sold out, regardless

03:22 schestowitz[TR]; BRUCE BYFIELD

03:22 schestowitz[TR]; https://fossforce.com/2020/01/can-the-linux-foundation-speak-for-free-software/

=> ↺ https://fossforce.com/2020/01/can-the-linux-foundation-speak-for-free-software/

03:22 TR Bot; Can the Linux Foundation Speak for Free Software? - FOSS Force

03:22 schestowitz[TR]; https://fossforce.com/2016/01/linux-foundation-sells-out-brave-new-browser-more/

=> ↺ https://fossforce.com/2016/01/linux-foundation-sells-out-brave-new-browser-more/

03:22 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Sells Out, Brave New Browser & More - FOSS Force

03:22 schestowitz[TR]; go to this page

03:22 schestowitz[TR]; now watch the LF ads all oveer it

03:22 highest_cubist_thrills; https://fossforce.com/2020/01/can-the-linux-foundation-speak-for-free-software/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines

=> ↺ https://fossforce.com/2020/01/can-the-linux-foundation-speak-for-free-software/
=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines

03:22 TR Bot; Betteridge's law of headlines - Wikipedia

03:22 schestowitz[TR]; so LF sold out, says the page

03:23 schestowitz[TR]; ina site that itself sold out

03:23 schestowitz[TR]; amazing

03:23 schestowitz[TR]; https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/39546.html

=> ↺ https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/39546.html

03:23 highest_cubist_thrills; hypocrisy is what all of this is based on

03:23 highest_cubist_thrills; so, yeah

03:23 TR Bot; mjg59 | Linux Foundation quietly drops community representation

03:23 highest_cubist_thrills; if you simply throw phanes and mjg into a fly chamber

03:23 highest_cubist_thrills; both will suicide for what they believe is the better good

03:24 schestowitz[TR]; m by Bruce Byfield

03:24 highest_cubist_thrills; now, this isnt fair to phanes

03:24 schestowitz[TR]; https://thenewstack.io/linux-foundation-critics/

=> ↺ https://thenewstack.io/linux-foundation-critics/

03:24 TR Bot; The Linux Foundation and Its Critics - The New Stack

03:24 schestowitz[TR]; https://fossforce.com/2017/04/lin-desktop-linux-gpl-openness/

=> ↺ https://fossforce.com/2017/04/lin-desktop-linux-gpl-openness/

03:24 TR Bot; The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - FOSS Force

03:24 schestowitz[TR]; with LF ads all over the page

03:24 schestowitz[TR]; I call this sellout

03:24 highest_cubist_thrills; but until we get a fly chamber its pretty moot anyway

03:24 schestowitz[TR]; when you become a shill fo what you know to be corrupt

03:24 schestowitz[TR]; because ytou are paid to do it

03:25 schestowitz[TR]; "In 2008, I was asked to attend the (by invitation only), Linux Collaboration Summit in Austin Texas. Since I am local to Austin and my head swelled X 10 by receiving this invite, I rounded up one of our non profit Directors and we pushed our way through the front door, into Mecca, as far as I was concerned.

03:25 schestowitz[TR]; "

03:25 schestowitz[TR]; -ken starks

03:25 highest_cubist_thrills; In 2008, I was asked to attend the (by invitation only)

03:25 highest_cubist_thrills; make selling out seem like an exclusive opportunity

03:26 highest_cubist_thrills; /me pictures github and microsoft people standing around like theyre cool

03:26 schestowitz[TR]; marcia was banned form their event

03:26 schestowitz[TR]; for not shining the shoes of GAFAM

03:26 highest_cubist_thrills; shes probably banned from lieplanet too

03:26 schestowitz[TR]; like jono bacon had done

03:26 schestowitz[TR]; that's LF in a nutshell

03:26 schestowitz[TR]; they are like mundie

03:26 schestowitz[TR]; in the elevator

03:26 schestowitz[TR]; "I'm your worsst nighmare"

03:26 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: Mostly Beavis & Butt-Head Do the Universe was meh, but the part where they wander into a liberal college where a professor is explaining White Privilege was pretty funny. She gives them the idea that because they're white and male they can do whatever they want and nobody will ever stop them and they'll have no trouble with the police, so they immediately go on a crime...

03:26 DaemonFC; ...spree that ends in wrecking a police car, nearly get shot by the cops, get arrested, and get thrown in jail, all over the next 10 minutes.

03:27 highest_cubist_thrills; eric s rambo

03:27 DaemonFC; I rather enjoyed that one scene.

03:27 schestowitz[TR]; http://web.archive.org/web/20170323185715/https://www.linux.com/blog/learn/chapter/open-source-management/2017/3/5-legal-risks-companies-involved-open-source-software-development

=> ↺ http://web.archive.org/web/20170323185715/https://www.linux.com/blog/learn/chapter/open-source-management/2017/3/5-legal-risks-companies-involved-open-source-software-development

03:27 TR Bot; 5 Legal Risks For Companies Involved in Open Source Software Development | Linux.com | The source for Linux information

03:27 highest_cubist_thrills; "i met richard stallman in an elevator around 1983"

03:27 schestowitz[TR]; anti-GPL

03:27 schestowitz[TR]; from LF

03:27 schestowitz[TR]; funded by Microsoft

03:27 schestowitz[TR]; black Duck

03:27 highest_cubist_thrills; "he told me he was starting an organisation to promote freedom"

03:28 schestowitz[TR]; "Thank you, Christine! Ive been saying it for years. In light of the recent VMware Gold class member situation also, who could ignore all the behavior by the Foundation.

03:28 schestowitz[TR]; "

03:28 highest_cubist_thrills; and i remember he looked at me sort of condescendingly and said 'and what do you do"

03:28 schestowitz[TR]; hey, hold on

03:28 schestowitz[TR]; Christine too sold out to them

03:28 highest_cubist_thrills; "and i gave him a sort of 1000 yard stare and said

03:28 highest_cubist_thrills; "im your best friend"

03:28 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> Christine too sold out to them <- i mean, yeah

03:28 schestowitz[TR]; bought with GAFAM money

03:28 schestowitz[TR]; you can see where LF money comes from

03:29 schestowitz[TR]; you might call it "hush money"

03:29 schestowitz[TR]; defuse critics

03:29 highest_cubist_thrills; if jim had anything to say

03:29 schestowitz[TR]; they did the same to "It's FOSS"

03:29 schestowitz[TR]; Then It's FOSS published their sponsored LF spam into tuxmacines

03:29 schestowitz[TR]; I unpublished it

03:29 highest_cubist_thrills; jim is the proverbial puppy youd be kicking by attacking microsoft

03:29 schestowitz[TR]; Jim is a fraud

03:29 highest_cubist_thrills; christine is a cat

03:29 schestowitz[TR]; so is the wife

03:29 highest_cubist_thrills; if christine sees bill gates sitting on a toilet

03:30 schestowitz[TR]; the piillow talk might be lol'ing over how to defraud people

03:30 highest_cubist_thrills; she says "ugh, you shit where you drink?"

03:30 schestowitz[TR]; and how easy it is to get away with it

03:30 highest_cubist_thrills; and jim zemlin says

03:30 highest_cubist_thrills; "WOW! YOU CAN DRINK WITH YOUR ARSE?"

03:30 schestowitz[TR]; because you are protected by a wall of corporate lawyers

03:30 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/08/23/jim-admires-bill/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/08/23/jim-admires-bill/

03:30 TR Bot; Sheela Microsoft (Zemlin) Does Not Like Linux and Jim Zemlin Idolises Bill Gates | Techrights

03:38 *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights

03:38 schestowitz[TR]; btw, rianne moved her sbc over to microsd yesterday

03:38 schestowitz[TR]; a lot faster now

03:38 schestowitz[TR]; but at risk of breaking

03:38 schestowitz[TR]; there is a backup/fallover though

03:39 highest_cubist_thrills; is betteridge's law of headlines correct? | matslina <- lol

03:40 schestowitz[TR]; remains an enigma why usb is slow slow for both of us to run off of

03:40 schestowitz[TR]; let's see how fast firefox runs over ssh -X

03:40 schestowitz[TR]; on an 'old' machine

03:41 highest_cubist_thrills; remains an enigma why usb is slow slow for both of us to run off <- i mean

03:42 highest_cubist_thrills; you have the usb controller, the interface on the drive enclusure, the drive itself, the quality and bandwidth of the cable

03:42 TR News; Links 12/09/2022: New in KDE Plasma 5.26, Istio Has New Releases | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/12/istio-has-new-releases/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/12/istio-has-new-releases/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/09/12/istio-has-new-releases/
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/12/istio-has-new-releases/

03:42 TR Bot; Links 12/09/2022: New in KDE Plasma 5.26, Istio Has New Releases | Techrights

03:42 highest_cubist_thrills; plus the drivers

03:42 DaemonFC; mjg59_: is so full of shit it's flowing out of his ears. But that's just the social justice crap.

03:42 DaemonFC; He knows he's an idiot on some level I'm sure.

03:42 highest_cubist_thrills; any of those could be the bottleneck

03:42 highest_cubist_thrills; as well as the filesystem itself

03:43 DaemonFC; He can't possibly think that the cops are like, out there tripping over themselves to bring in White people alive or go easy on them to avoid tricking them into false confessions that will send them to prison.

03:43 DaemonFC; If he does think that, I can let him interview me about the police sometime.

03:44 DaemonFC; I think it would be an opportunity to shine some light on how wrong he's been.

03:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: I had a talk with my doctor about 988 and mental health and the police today.

03:45 DaemonFC; She asked if I ever felt suicidal. I said, "In a general sense, quite a lot of the time, actually. But that's been going on forever now.".

03:45 schestowitz[TR]; you will be OK

03:45 schestowitz[TR]; be ok to mandy, he will lookm after you

03:45 highest_cubist_thrills; Behdad Esfahbod, developer of HarfBuzz HarfBuzz evolved from code that was originally part of the FreeType project

03:45 DaemonFC; She says, "You can call 988 if you need help with that.". I immediately said, "I would never call them. They dox people and send the police out to shoot them.".

03:45 DaemonFC; She opens her eyes and so does the student.

03:46 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, it's like CIA in Pakistan

03:46 DaemonFC; "What do you mean they come out and shoot you?"

03:46 schestowitz[TR]; with polio vaccines

03:46 schestowitz[TR]; they used that to pick up DNA samples

03:46 schestowitz[TR]; and then pakinstanis started killing doctors

03:46 schestowitz[TR]; assuming all of them were just CIA assets

03:46 schestowitz[TR]; with surveillance campitalism people think twice before seeking advice

03:46 schestowitz[TR]; as they assume no confidentiality

03:46 DaemonFC; I said, "Oh someone hasn't read the news. Like that guy up in Michigan. Totally unarmed. Mom calls the cops to do a wellness check on her son, and they go in there and shoot him, execution style. I don't trust the police. I don't answer their questions even if they've only pulled me over for speeding.".

03:47 schestowitz[TR]; and the psycho*s enter data into a Windows machine

03:47 highest_cubist_thrills; /me has no idea what roy is on about

03:47 highest_cubist_thrills; github.com/harfbuzz/harfbuzz/issues/2804

03:47 highest_cubist_thrills; Harfbuzz has started trying to render emoji variation selectors #2804. Closed kovidgoyal opened this issue Jan 5, 2021

03:47 schestowitz[TR]; probably sending the data to "the clown"

03:47 DaemonFC; "Name, rank, and serial number. Anything more, talk to my attorney."

03:47 schestowitz[TR]; god knows what happens to data on "the clown"

03:47 schestowitz[TR]; or what the psych*s write about you

03:47 schestowitz[TR]; there is a seinfeld episoe about it

03:47 schestowitz[TR]; you wan tto know what the doc types abouy uou

03:47 schestowitz[TR]; and as you confront them they add more

03:47 schestowitz[TR]; and don't tell you

03:48 DaemonFC; I said that I don't trust the police and don't answer police questions.

03:48 schestowitz[TR]; right

03:48 schestowitz[TR]; don't engage with them

03:48 schestowitz[TR]; they are always right

03:48 DaemonFC; I said if I felt actively suicidal I would take myself somewhere for treatment, but I would not call the cops.

03:48 schestowitz[TR]; and you are only right wqhen it suits them

03:48 schestowitz[TR]; when it proves them right

03:48 schestowitz[TR]; and did I mention they are deceitful and violent?

03:49 DaemonFC; The last thing you should do is call the police. Or call 988, because 2% of the time they call the police.

03:49 highest_cubist_thrills; doctors?

03:49 highest_cubist_thrills; At this time Qt ships with its own copy of HarfBuzz which is identical to the upstream HarfBuzz. Pango ships with its own copy also, but only uses the layout engine, and not the HarfBuzz shapers. Since 2008 the author has been working on rewriting the layout engine to be more robust and use mmap()ed fonts efficiently

03:49 highest_cubist_thrills; attack surface

03:49 DaemonFC; So you're playing Russian Roulette as to whether the cops come out after you, and again on whether they just kill you while they're out there.

03:49 schestowitz[TR]; not sure about UK

03:49 DaemonFC; You called and said you wanted to die.

03:49 schestowitz[TR]; but in the US, psych*s became informants

03:49 DaemonFC; Okay buddy, here it is.

03:49 schestowitz[TR]; for employers, pol,ice, gov

03:50 schestowitz[TR]; and later cops and psych*s wonder why people don't trust them enough

03:50 DaemonFC; If you actually want to die, call 988 and they might arrange a suicide by cop for you.

03:50 highest_cubist_thrills; patriot act = no more ethical doctors

03:50 highest_cubist_thrills; oops, we fucked up!

03:50 DaemonFC; You never know. The police are there to deal with CRIMINALS not the mentally ill.

03:50 DaemonFC; They get training that's more like what a soldier does than a psychologist.

03:50 schestowitz[TR]; hmmm... firefox can run surprisingly ok over LAN on another machine

03:50 schestowitz[TR]; I expected more lag

03:51 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> not sure about UK <- its the same

03:51 schestowitz[TR]; there obv. would be latecy if you tried playing videos

03:51 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> I expected more lag <- wwwhhheeeennnn dooo yyyyyyoooo sttttaarrrttt tyyyyyypiiiinnngg liiiikkeeeee thiiiiiissssss

03:52 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: The United Nations says that the United States violates the human rights of mentally ill people. They didn't name names, but like, they said that "forced mental health treatment" is a human rights violation.

03:52 schestowitz[TR]; it's the same with internal WBVer mechanismss

03:52 schestowitz[TR]; if you use them, they flag you

03:52 highest_cubist_thrills; i know thats a different application, i just assumed your network is swamped now

03:52 DaemonFC; The US has "forced mental health".

03:52 schestowitz[TR]; snowden learned this from prior nsa WBers

03:52 schestowitz[TR]; and their court cases

03:52 schestowitz[TR]; better not get flagged

03:52 schestowitz[TR]; test the waters

03:52 DaemonFC; If you tell a psychiatrist you want to kill yourself, you get forcibly committed for not less than 72 hours.

03:52 schestowitz[TR]; then go directly to the press

03:52 DaemonFC; And as long as they want you there.

03:52 schestowitz[TR]; same with cops andpsych*s

03:53 schestowitz[TR]; better call family or friends

03:53 schestowitz[TR]; they mioght say,

03:53 schestowitz[TR]; "son, I want you to get professional help"

03:53 schestowitz[TR]; but they won't phone

03:53 DaemonFC; I don't think people should be forcibly committed. I actually think a lot of people should get help committing suicide if that's what they really want.

03:53 schestowitz[TR]; (not based on personal experience btw)

03:53 DaemonFC; Because if they do it themselves, it's going to be fucking ugly, and it may ruin a lot of people's day.

03:53 schestowitz[TR]; a circle of confidants is better

03:54 schestowitz[TR]; a german friednd of mine ran in front of a bus

03:54 schestowitz[TR]; after some girl had turned him down, rejected him

03:54 DaemonFC; Yes, that's what I'm saying.

03:54 schestowitz[TR]; we spent all night with her

03:54 schestowitz[TR]; *him

03:54 DaemonFC; He walks in front of a bus. Messy.

03:54 schestowitz[TR]; and he felt better

03:54 DaemonFC; Other people traumatized.

03:54 schestowitz[TR]; cried a lot, told stories, opened up

03:54 schestowitz[TR]; noi need for shrinks

03:54 DaemonFC; He's dead. There's a mess to clean up.

03:54 schestowitz[TR]; shared with friends

03:54 highest_cubist_thrills; :)

03:54 schestowitz[TR]; his dad abused him a lot

03:54 DaemonFC; What's changed besides the fact that it turns into a bad day all around?

03:55 schestowitz[TR]; no record of what happened

03:55 schestowitz[TR]; or his name for that matter

03:55 DaemonFC; You can only cry so much.

03:55 highest_cubist_thrills; im pretty sure there are still some people who need medication

03:55 highest_cubist_thrills; if you know any circle of friends that can provide that

03:55 schestowitz[TR]; he suffered a breakdown because of that spanish gal

03:56 DaemonFC; It's not medication as much as it is a chemical restraint.

03:56 schestowitz[TR]; so it was partly temporary

03:56 DaemonFC; I don't think it was just that.

03:56 highest_cubist_thrills; its not an industry im largely sympathetic to

03:56 highest_cubist_thrills; but im pretty sure at least a few people need it

03:56 DaemonFC; That might have been the last straw.

03:56 schestowitz[TR]; no need for meds

03:56 schestowitz[TR]; they can worsen things

03:56 schestowitz[TR]; he suffered rejection

03:56 highest_cubist_thrills; yes they often do worsen things

03:56 DaemonFC; I've had thoughts like that before. Constant rejection.

03:56 DaemonFC; I makes you bitter.

03:56 schestowitz[TR]; he said to us

03:56 schestowitz[TR]; "I'm taking the next bus"

03:57 highest_cubist_thrills; im trying to figure out if youre saying your friend didnt need meds

03:57 highest_cubist_thrills; or no one does

03:57 schestowitz[TR]; then ran in front of one

03:57 DaemonFC; "Catching the bus" is a suicide euphemism.

03:57 DaemonFC; I used to be a member of that Alt.Suicide.Holiday and Alt.Suicide.Bus.Stop group.

03:57 DaemonFC; They had an IRC server for years.

03:57 schestowitz[TR]; way to signal he wanted help

03:57 schestowitz[TR]; thew bus did not go fast enough

03:58 highest_cubist_thrills; lucky he didnt use a train

03:58 schestowitz[TR]; they are fenced here

03:58 DaemonFC; Yeah, I've had that thought.

03:58 schestowitz[TR]; for this reason I reckon

03:58 schestowitz[TR]; or terror attacks

03:58 highest_cubist_thrills; surely

03:58 DaemonFC; Oh, they're not fenced here and they get up to about 80 miles an hour in some places.

03:58 schestowitz[TR]; but a determined person can leap past them, many ways

03:58 highest_cubist_thrills; i think terrorists know how to breach fences

03:58 DaemonFC; You have a Metra train doing 80, you're done.

03:58 schestowitz[TR]; suicide by fall is a lot easier tbh

03:58 DaemonFC; That's how the CEO of Metra killed himself.

03:58 highest_cubist_thrills; they should make a booklet

03:59 highest_cubist_thrills; "easist ways to kill yourself"

03:59 schestowitz[TR]; someone from EPO jumped into the subway years ago

03:59 DaemonFC; There are some books like that.

03:59 schestowitz[TR]; after his holiday

03:59 highest_cubist_thrills; "a lot of people jump in front of busses, but this is unreliable"

03:59 DaemonFC; They're illegal in some countries.

03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 83.93 average k/sec., average swarm size 181.81

03:59 highest_cubist_thrills; "trains are fenced in but a determined person can get past that"

03:59 DaemonFC; In others, they open you up to wrongful death lawsuits by family members.

4 AM, September 13

04:00 schestowitz[TR]; a few weeks ago I saw a photo of him

04:00 schestowitz[TR]; when going through old albums

04:00 highest_cubist_thrills; /me still believes there are people (however few) that cannot function without medication

04:00 highest_cubist_thrills; i hope its only 12

04:00 highest_cubist_thrills; but its at least 12

04:00 schestowitz[TR]; (brb)

04:01 highest_cubist_thrills; techrights.org/2020/08/13/harfbuzz-microsoft/

04:01 highest_cubist_thrills; The name "Harfbuzz" is based on a translation of the phrase "OpenFont". Its lead author is Behdad Esfahbod, who is also the lead dev of Pango the GNOME thingy that (typically) makes text happen. I don't know (or very much care) about the finer details about that, I know that my Gtk applications refuse to run without it.

04:01 highest_cubist_thrills; i thought it was a translation of "fuck yo couch"

04:02 DaemonFC; I don't know why the IRC server went away, but it's probably just as well that it did.

04:03 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5DoynGDYRoM

=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5DoynGDYRoM

04:03 DaemonFC; It got depressing to meet people and then they were gone.

04:03 TR Bot; The Real Rules About Medicine in Scientology - Invidious

04:03 schestowitz[TR]; maybe legal issues

04:03 schestowitz[TR]; I'd imagine

04:03 schestowitz[TR]; there are some possible liabilities

04:03 schestowitz[TR]; like, if you give bad advice

04:03 schestowitz[TR]; and then the family finds out

04:04 schestowitz[TR]; https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=techrights

=> ↺ https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=techrights

04:04 TR Bot; NO TITLE

04:04 schestowitz[TR]; over 500 networks of size >50 at one point https://netsplit.de/networks/

=> ↺ https://netsplit.de/networks/

04:04 TR Bot; NO TITLE

04:04 schestowitz[TR]; it used to be 400+

04:04 schestowitz[TR]; IRC is still steady

04:05 schestowitz[TR]; while social control media is collapsing

04:05 schestowitz[TR]; BTW

04:05 schestowitz[TR]; re FB

04:05 schestowitz[TR]; I read yesterday they lay off more peopl

04:05 schestowitz[TR]; apparently their VR ambitions (aka "METAverse) is floundering already

04:05 DaemonFC; I doubt anyone ever expected that to work.

04:06 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, September 12, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext

=> http://techrights.org/txt
=> http://techrights.org/txt-archives

04:06 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives

04:06 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: it was vapourware

04:06 schestowitz[TR]; 1) distract from the WBer (Francis

04:06 schestowitz[TR]; 2) change company name

04:06 schestowitz[TR]; 3) tell some BS to shareholders

04:06 schestowitz[TR]; 4) try to compensate for loss of users

04:06 schestowitz[TR]; tbh, don't know what FBInstagram and WhatApp see in terms of # of users

04:07 schestowitz[TR]; we just know that for quite a few now FB lost active users

04:07 schestowitz[TR]; and then tried to expand in the global south

04:07 schestowitz[TR]; to make up for the losses

04:07 schestowitz[TR]; to artificially inflate numbers

04:07 schestowitz[TR]; Twitter did that with bots

04:07 schestowitz[TR]; and algorithks that steer you into busy "tweets"

04:07 schestowitz[TR]; and won't let you see all the hidden/abandoned stuff

04:07 schestowitz[TR]; upcycling "Trafic"

04:07 schestowitz[TR]; foir "enegagement";

04:08 schestowitz[TR]; while screwing all the original users

04:08 schestowitz[TR]; toi impress shareholders

04:08 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing

=> http://techrights.org/ipfs
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04:08 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index

04:09 schestowitz[TR]; gosh, mozills killed off so many useful firefox extensions

04:09 schestowitz[TR]; not just thunderbird ones

04:09 schestowitz[TR]; "unified" experience my a**

04:09 schestowitz[TR]; they ruin what was good about these

04:09 schestowitz[TR]; them(e)ing has been reduced to shitty top bar

04:10 schestowitz[TR]; you used to be able to control the whole thing

04:10 schestowitz[TR]; menus, menu items, scroll bars..

04:10 schestowitz[TR]; it was like the 'emacs of browsers'

04:10 DaemonFC; SeaMonkey clanks and clunks because the Web is shit.

04:11 schestowitz[TR]; yes, here si the thing

04:11 DaemonFC; But most of the Web sites that fail are hardly worth using anyway.

04:11 schestowitz[TR]; it might sound corny

04:11 schestowitz[TR]; the web is the browser

04:11 schestowitz[TR]; the browsers are the web

04:11 schestowitz[TR]; they are pairs

04:11 schestowitz[TR]; client/host

04:11 schestowitz[TR]; sender/receiver

04:11 schestowitz[TR]; renderer/transmitter

04:11 schestowitz[TR]; so as browsers get bloated

04:11 schestowitz[TR]; so do the sites

04:11 schestowitz[TR]; and the w3c 'standards' just catchn up

04:11 DaemonFC; I overheard some chatter that the latest SeaMonkey patches will deal with YouTube better.

04:12 schestowitz[TR]; with what browsers alreadt implement or implemented

04:12 DaemonFC; But thanks to sites like these, you're basically just tending to the corpse.

04:12 schestowitz[TR]; read: chrome

04:12 highest_cubist_thrills; the web is the browser | the browsers are the web <- close enough

04:12 schestowitz[TR]; as so many browsers are not branched off that

04:12 highest_cubist_thrills; and theyre both shit

04:12 schestowitz[TR]; so www just becamne "the chrome language"

04:12 schestowitz[TR]; mozills is like a lame arse imitation

04:12 schestowitz[TR]; witj gecko

04:12 highest_cubist_thrills; not historically, but

04:12 schestowitz[TR]; giving you illusion you are not left out

04:13 highest_cubist_thrills; in a sense, sort of

04:13 schestowitz[TR]; "we made the doors wide... for wheelchair"

04:13 highest_cubist_thrills; /me would like to be left out of the web

04:13 schestowitz[TR]; "enven disabled people can compete"

04:13 schestowitz[TR]; (but they don't stand a chance in the REAL olympics"

04:13 schestowitz[TR]; mozilla became disabled person

04:13 schestowitz[TR]; aproppos

04:14 highest_cubist_thrills; /me give the metaphor a wheelchair

04:14 schestowitz[TR]; https://blog.mozilla.org/en/interviews/keah-brown-disabled-and-cute-hashtag/

=> ↺ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/interviews/keah-brown-disabled-and-cute-hashtag/

04:14 TR Bot; The childrens book author behind #disabledandcute on her favorite corners of the internet

04:14 schestowitz[TR]; #disabledandcute

04:14 schestowitz[TR]; welcome to the new mozilla

04:14 schestowitz[TR]; #disabledandcute

04:14 highest_cubist_thrills; mozilla isnt cute

04:14 schestowitz[TR]; they also did a podcast about covid yesterday

04:14 schestowitz[TR]; yes, covid

04:14 schestowitz[TR]; what the f**rk?

04:14 schestowitz[TR]; mozilla..., covid company

04:14 highest_cubist_thrills; is that the name of their new rendering engine?

04:14 schestowitz[TR]; liek FL

04:15 schestowitz[TR]; LF = vaccines

04:15 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/vaccine-spam-in-linux-news/

=> http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/vaccine-spam-in-linux-news/

04:15 TR Bot; Conveniently Conflating Vaccination With the Surveillance Business of IBM/Linux Foundation | Techrights

04:15 schestowitz[TR]; mozilla is cute

04:15 schestowitz[TR]; but it's no blink

04:15 highest_cubist_thrills; once an organisation (osi, osfsf, mossilla) stops standing for a cause

04:15 schestowitz[TR]; and no chromium

04:15 schestowitz[TR]; but it's "cute"

04:16 schestowitz[TR]; you can avoid gulag

04:16 highest_cubist_thrills; all thats left is a lot of attention wrhoring for donations / sponsors / pageviews

04:16 schestowitz[TR]; no, you can't

04:16 schestowitz[TR]; mozills is controlled by the same bosses

04:16 schestowitz[TR]; and worse: http://techrights.org/2022/09/10/mozilla-three-letter-agencies/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/09/10/mozilla-three-letter-agencies/

04:16 TR Bot; Mozilla Hired Top-Level Managers Directly From the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Can They Be Trusted on Privacy? | Techrights

04:16 schestowitz[TR]; sounds like conspiracy BS, but it's factual

04:16 *schestowitz[TR] donates to mozilla

04:17 schestowitz[TR]; lately rianne has been donating to elphant charties several times per week./ maybe she should donate to moz for librewolf ^_^

04:17 schestowitz[TR]; or just donate directly to librewolf

04:17 schestowitz[TR]; mozilla takes a load of money for spying

04:18 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe librewolf should change its name to librelephant

04:18 schestowitz[TR]; and then asks us, the products, for donations

04:18 highest_cubist_thrills; mozilla is a scam

04:18 schestowitz[TR]; the money lands in some yuppie's accoutn http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/baker-salaries/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/baker-salaries/

04:18 TR Bot; This Month Mozilla Firefox Reached Its Lowest Share (Just 3%), But CEO Baker Made a Fortune (Especially When Mozilla Sank) | Techrights

04:18 schestowitz[TR]; a yuppie who could never program

04:18 highest_cubist_thrills; but she does have expensive hair

04:18 highest_cubist_thrills; unlike some fucking hippies

04:19 schestowitz[TR]; the hair is a distraction

04:19 highest_cubist_thrills; i was sure it was in the mission statement

04:19 schestowitz[TR]; she would likely loook like Sinad O'Connor if she shaved it off

04:19 highest_cubist_thrills; seriously, the hair is an integral issue

04:19 schestowitz[TR]; https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Mitchell_Baker.jpg/220px-Mitchell_Baker.jpg

=> ↺ https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Mitchell_Baker.jpg/220px-Mitchell_Baker.jpg

04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

04:20 schestowitz[TR]; 17 years ago

04:20 schestowitz[TR]; I can imagine her looks now

04:20 highest_cubist_thrills; i just picture eva braun

04:20 schestowitz[TR]; 2008 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Baker#/media/File:Mitchell_Baker-20081018.jpg

=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Baker#/media/File:Mitchell_Baker-20081018.jpg

04:20 TR Bot; Mitchell Baker - Wikipedia

04:20 schestowitz[TR]; looks male

04:21 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.incimages.com/uploaded_files/image/1920x1080/feature-104-mozilla-pan_7395.jpg

=> ↺ https://www.incimages.com/uploaded_files/image/1920x1080/feature-104-mozilla-pan_7395.jpg

04:21 schestowitz[TR]; she tried modelling the hair after firefox

04:21 schestowitz[TR]; or vice versa?

04:22 schestowitz[TR]; hard to find any recent photos of her

04:22 schestowitz[TR]; she is almost retirement age now

04:22 schestowitz[TR]; 65

04:22 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe shes in her 40s but adopted mozillas versioning

04:22 highest_cubist_thrills; now every few months shes 10 versions older

04:22 schestowitz[TR]; would you retire when you can still milk over $3 million per year from a company you helped kill?

04:23 highest_cubist_thrills; well, im not mitchell baker

04:23 schestowitz[TR]; seems she evaded cameras in recent years

04:23 schestowitz[TR]; hard to find photos from past 10 years

04:24 schestowitz[TR]; I can envision it's a piggyback with red hair, sharped to resembled the latest iteration of the log

04:24 highest_cubist_thrills; how much do the photos matter

04:24 schestowitz[TR]; they keep changing the logo

04:24 schestowitz[TR]; even making it WORSE than prior iterations

04:24 schestowitz[TR]; it's quicker than fixing firefox

04:25 highest_cubist_thrills; i think the fsf has a new logo, but i dont know if its official

04:25 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean

04:25 highest_cubist_thrills; what does official mean at the fsf

04:25 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre a farce

04:25 schestowitz[TR]; and they probably paid some "artistic types" in "|Bay Area" like $100,000 each time they muck about with the "swoosh" logo

04:25 schestowitz[TR]; invoice: we made the colours a bit diffewrent, total bill $100,000

04:25 highest_cubist_thrills; or baker takes 100,000 and hires someone outside the subway for $100 and keeps the rest

04:25 schestowitz[TR]; the new mozilla logo was widely mocked

04:26 schestowitz[TR]; there were much better proposala

04:26 highest_cubist_thrills; lets be fair

04:26 schestowitz[TR]; that the community had submitted

04:26 highest_cubist_thrills; its a stupid project

04:26 schestowitz[TR]; they rejected these

04:26 highest_cubist_thrills; a stupid logo is appropriate

04:26 highest_cubist_thrills; moonchild can say "at least we dont use that fucking logo"

04:26 schestowitz[TR]; https://todaysecommerce.com/web-stories/a-sneak-peek-into-mitchell-bakers-net-worth/

=> ↺ https://todaysecommerce.com/web-stories/a-sneak-peek-into-mitchell-bakers-net-worth/

04:26 TR Bot; A Sneak Peek Into Mitchell Baker's Net Worth - Today's Ecommerce

04:26 highest_cubist_thrills; have some javascript

04:27 highest_cubist_thrills; if the economy collapses, maybe she can sell her hair

04:27 schestowitz[TR]; 15 million

04:27 schestowitz[TR]; the number of firefox users in a couple of years

04:27 schestowitz[TR]; and how many dollars she took

04:28 schestowitz[TR]; https://blog.mozilla.org/opendesign/evolving-the-firefox-brand/

=> ↺ https://blog.mozilla.org/opendesign/evolving-the-firefox-brand/

04:28 TR Bot; Evolving the Firefox Brand - Mozilla Open Design

04:28 schestowitz[TR]; https://blog.mozilla.org/opendesign/now-for-the-fun-part/

=> ↺ https://blog.mozilla.org/opendesign/now-for-the-fun-part/

04:28 TR Bot; Now for the fun part of Mozilla's logo design. - Mozilla Open Design

04:28 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/30/17631766/firefox-logo-redesign-mozilla-user-feedback

=> ↺ https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/30/17631766/firefox-logo-redesign-mozilla-user-feedback

04:28 TR Bot; Firefox is getting a new logo, and Mozilla wants to hear what users think - The Verge

04:29 schestowitz[TR]; https://blog.mozilla.org/opendesign/files/2016/08/jb_Mozilla_A_eye_1.jpg

=> ↺ https://blog.mozilla.org/opendesign/files/2016/08/jb_Mozilla_A_eye_1.jpg

04:29 schestowitz[TR]; eye of saurus :-)

04:29 schestowitz[TR]; apt

04:29 schestowitz[TR]; given the spyware

04:30 schestowitz[TR]; "mozilla,,,,,,,,, are you... like, watching me?"

04:30 schestowitz[TR]; mozilla: no!

04:30 schestowitz[TR]; "telemetry"

04:30 schestowitz[TR]; "to improve the experience"

04:31 schestowitz[TR]; "ok, then, mozilla... stay classy"

04:31 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont care, because theyre part of the coup

04:32 schestowitz[TR]; oh, wait

04:32 schestowitz[TR]; but nnot officially

04:32 highest_cubist_thrills; i will gladly watch mozilla implode

04:32 schestowitz[TR]; i mean, mozilla as an org/ (company) did not issue a statement

04:32 schestowitz[TR]; suse, for example, did

04:32 schestowitz[TR]; and some staff was not happy

04:32 schestowitz[TR]; sap doll as CEO of SUSE

04:32 schestowitz[TR]; SAP

04:33 schestowitz[TR]; I mean, she didn't need to make a statement

04:33 schestowitz[TR]; we already know SAP salespeople do not like what RMS says about them

04:33 schestowitz[TR]; it's tragic that a slaeperson from SAP runs SUSE

04:33 schestowitz[TR]; even hovsepian was not that bad

04:33 schestowitz[TR]; he came from ICBM

04:34 schestowitz[TR]; ICBM "it came from above"

04:35 TR News; Simon Boaks SB116 is a TI Programmer-inspired DIY calculator | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/13/simon-boaks-sb116-is-a-ti-programmer-inspired-diy-calculator/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/13/simon-boaks-sb116-is-a-ti-programmer-inspired-diy-calculator/

=> ↺ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/13/simon-boaks-sb116-is-a-ti-programmer-inspired-diy-calculator/
=> ↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/13/simon-boaks-sb116-is-a-ti-programmer-inspired-diy-calculator/

04:35 TR Bot; Simon Boak's SB116 is a TI Programmer-inspired DIY calculator | Arduino Blog

04:36 TR News; How to set up Jellyfin on Linux in Docker https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-set-up-jellyfin-on-linux-in-docker/

=> ↺ https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-set-up-jellyfin-on-linux-in-docker/

04:36 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-set-up-jellyfin-on-linux-in-docker/ )

=> ↺ https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-set-up-jellyfin-on-linux-in-docker/

04:36 TR News; "This write-up will discuss the approaches for checking the type of variable in Java." https://linuxhint.com/check-variable-type-in-java/

=> ↺ https://linuxhint.com/check-variable-type-in-java/

04:36 TR Bot; How to Check Variable Type in Java

04:37 TR News; Notice how much of the Microsoft-bribed media tries to associate Go (Golang) with malware because people COULD write malware in Go and yet don't mention what became of JavaScript and POWERshell

04:39 TR News; The B in ICBM stands for Bailout. On an international (I) scale, ICBM relies on government (no-bid) contracts, e.g. for surveillance and weapon systems. ICBM got caught, repeatedly, not just grifting but also bribing (yes, crime, nobody arrested) for such contracts.

04:40 TR News; "I'd like to see Gnome applications written in .NET in version 4.0 - no, version 3.0. But Gnome 4.0 should be based on .NET." http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/02/01/gnome_to_be_based/

=> ↺ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/02/01/gnome_to_be_based/

04:40 TR Bot; Gnome to be based on .NET de Icaza The Register

04:40 TR News; systemd is controlled by Microsoft on several levels now

04:41 TR News; GPL is a cancer, say people who profit from cancer and patents on various other fatal diseases

04:43 TR News; SJVN in his latest ZDNet piece (of s-) neglected to connect patent trolls and their attacks on Free software... to how USELESS the OIN and LOT Network are. Why? Follow the money. He's paid to shill them and pass on their lies.

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04:44 TR News; Linux Foundation promoting surveillance again https://www.prweb.com/releases/new_metaverse_track_at_o3dcon_to_tackle_big_questions_and_practical_applications_of_emerging_graphical_technology/prweb18891315.htm

=> ↺ https://www.prweb.com/releases/new_metaverse_track_at_o3dcon_to_tackle_big_questions_and_practical_applications_of_emerging_graphical_technology/prweb18891315.htm

04:44 TR Bot; New Metaverse Track at O3DCon to Tackle Big Questions and Practical Applications of Emerging Graphical Technology

04:45 TR News; 1992: "Linux" is a kernel 2002: "Linux" is an operating system 2012: "Linux" is a buzzword (thanks, LF!) 2022: "Linux" is vaccines and surveillance and Microsoft and...

04:47 TR News; The metaphysics of ontopoetics and panpsychism gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/flexibeast/gemlog/2022-09-13.gmi

=> ↺ gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/flexibeast/gemlog/2022-09-13.gmi

04:56 TR News; Kristall has an utterly dumb way of handling TSL certificates for HTTPS. Very disappointing. It's OK with self-signed for Gemini but not HTTPS? Why? No good reasons!

04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.10 k/sec., IPFS upstream 130.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 168.98

04:59 TR News; OK, Kristall's handling of TSL bullshit is clearly buggy. Worthless.

5 AM, September 13

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05:01 TR News; We should be 'forgiving' towards sites that self-sign certificates (many have legitimate reasons) and less 'forgiving' towards Web browsers that deny this. Who are they serving? Users? Sites? Or the CA cartel?

05:03 TR News; In the case of Kristall, it seems to boil down to a bug. It does not seem to be actively developed anymore (not since last xmas), so many a fix is not on the way.

05:07 DaemonFC; TIL: In the UK, they can basically put you on trial as many times as they want as long as they keep saying they found "substantial new evidence".

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05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

05:31 DaemonFC; Does Haiku run on any actual hardware.

05:31 DaemonFC; Or is it one of those "Toss this in a VM and it crashes a lot." things like ReactOS?

05:31 schestowitz[TR]; good question

05:31 DaemonFC; I wonder if anyone maintains SeaMonkey or Firefox for Haiku.

05:31 schestowitz[TR]; but maybe they make a business selling it preloaded

05:32 DaemonFC; Theoretically it should be possible.

05:32 schestowitz[TR]; netsurf

05:32 DaemonFC; WebPositive is apparently the Haiku replacement for NetPositive in BeOS.

05:32 DaemonFC; NetPositive had its own rendering engine, and it had haikus for error messages.

05:33 DaemonFC; But that was when the Web was so small you could make a 2-3 MB browser that ran it all pretty much if you coded it efficently.

05:33 DaemonFC; "Bloated" Web browsers were about 40-50 MB.

05:34 DaemonFC; NetPositive and Opera were small because they were coded efficiently and were not meant to be a platform for application development! Opera was "cross platform" but did not draw its own GUI widgets like Mozilla in XUL.

05:34 DaemonFC; On OS/2 it was basically a slightly modified Windows program using Odin.

05:34 DaemonFC; On GNU/Linux, Opera used Qt.

05:36 DaemonFC; Classic Opera was a much better program than Chromium Opera.

05:36 DaemonFC; When they switched to Chromium I basically stopped using Opera.

05:38 DaemonFC; "Opera Neon concept browser for Mac & Windows"

05:38 DaemonFC; "Download now Free for Linux "

05:38 DaemonFC; LOL

05:42 DaemonFC; Crypto Wallet? LOL

05:42 schestowitz[TR]; don't touch ma wallet maaan

05:42 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: I will put my crypto family photo in my crypto wallet

05:43 schestowitz[TR]; along with my crypto keys... to the home

05:43 schestowitz[TR]; don't forget to put a cryptoi condom in your crypto wallet

05:43 schestowitz[TR]; btw, how is marisol'd crypto wallet doing?

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05:50 schestowitz[TR]; wb

05:50 schestowitz[TR]; I've just recorded a video

05:51 schestowitz[TR]; i really ought to get back to doing 3 per day

05:51 schestowitz[TR]; but topics are not easy to find

05:51 schestowitz[TR]; if you avoid repetition of themes

05:51 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah

05:51 highest_cubist_thrills; ive been looking online for any signs that anyone actually gives a shit about free software

05:51 schestowitz[TR]; rms talks are typically 50% or more reuse

05:51 schestowitz[TR]; the Q and A has some new material

05:51 highest_cubist_thrills; once you make it about everything else instead

05:51 highest_cubist_thrills; it pretty much becomes about everything else instead

05:52 schestowitz[TR]; but he then comments on things he does not know, never use, cannot undeersatnd

05:52 highest_cubist_thrills; well, hes dead

05:52 schestowitz[TR]; or say things someone told him

05:52 highest_cubist_thrills; hes a puppet without a hand

05:52 highest_cubist_thrills; propped up in a corner with nothing to say

05:53 schestowitz[TR]; he softened a bit

05:53 schestowitz[TR]; he no longer says stuff like

05:53 schestowitz[TR]; proprietary is evil

05:53 highest_cubist_thrills; hes been tenderised

05:53 schestowitz[TR]; because it's not suit-friendly

05:53 schestowitz[TR]; so they encourage him to water down his free expression

05:53 schestowitz[TR]; and it shows

05:53 schestowitz[TR]; same with torvalds

05:53 schestowitz[TR]; forced to take manners "Training"

05:53 highest_cubist_thrills; well ive been saying it for two years

05:54 highest_cubist_thrills; the real stallman is not coming back

05:54 highest_cubist_thrills; same with torvalds

05:54 schestowitz[TR]; here sia term for you

05:54 schestowitz[TR]; "manners talibanism"

05:54 highest_cubist_thrills; fancy

05:54 highest_cubist_thrills; heres one

05:54 highest_cubist_thrills; stockholm syndrome

05:54 schestowitz[TR]; oh, btw

05:54 schestowitz[TR]; sweden voted for the right

05:55 schestowitz[TR]; they seem to not want taliban taking over their country

05:55 schestowitz[TR]; which is unexpected for those who thought swedes were liberal

05:55 highest_cubist_thrills; thats just being wrong for the right reasons

05:55 highest_cubist_thrills; what makes the taliban a threat to sweden?

05:56 schestowitz[TR]; I'm refering to people who reject the culture

05:56 schestowitz[TR]; and form neighbourhood-wide 'colonies'

05:56 schestowitz[TR]; it's not a qunieuly swedish problem

05:56 highest_cubist_thrills; what you mean immigrants

05:56 schestowitz[TR]; but going back to software

05:57 schestowitz[TR]; the FSF has been coopted by pseudo-manners

05:57 schestowitz[TR]; so it cannot say spyware and stuff is evil

05:57 schestowitz[TR]; it's not good for sponsores

05:57 highest_cubist_thrills; it cant do anything

05:57 schestowitz[TR]; same for politicians

05:57 highest_cubist_thrills; its the new osi

05:57 highest_cubist_thrills; i called them the osfsf earlier

05:57 schestowitz[TR]; immigrants per se are not a problem

05:57 schestowitz[TR]; many immigrants integrate OK

05:57 schestowitz[TR]; companies can donate to the fsf

05:57 schestowitz[TR]; and support what fsf stands for

05:57 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean loads of brazilians in the same section

05:57 schestowitz[TR]; not tryint to change the fsf

05:58 highest_cubist_thrills; speaking portuguese and opening portguese businesses

05:58 highest_cubist_thrills; which is no problem at all

05:58 schestowitz[TR]; even if rms could speak portguese, he could still be attacked

05:58 schestowitz[TR]; and would

05:59 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah i meant regarding "neighbourhoodwide 'colonies'"

05:59 schestowitz[TR]; FSF is coloniused

05:59 schestowitz[TR]; by people who want to be sheltered there

05:59 schestowitz[TR]; like LF, OSI...

05:59 schestowitz[TR]; they attack what they enter

05:59 highest_cubist_thrills; its been taken over by corporations

05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 38.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 111.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 157.21

05:59 schestowitz[TR]; LF has just openeashed Microsoft again

05:59 highest_cubist_thrills; who dont want users to be free

05:59 highest_cubist_thrills; turning the fsf into a fraud

05:59 schestowitz[TR]; 'Linux' Foundation openwashing for Microsoft https://www.datanami.com/2022/09/12/linkedin-donates-feature-store-to-linux-foundation/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation

=> ↺ https://www.datanami.com/2022/09/12/linkedin-donates-feature-store-to-linux-foundation/
=> http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation

05:59 TR Bot; LinkedIn Donates Feature Store to Linux Foundation

05:59 TR Bot; Linux Foundation - Techrights

6 AM, September 13

06:00 highest_cubist_thrills; lf is just marketing for microsoft, nothing else

06:00 schestowitz[TR]; "Microsoft loves Open SOurce"

06:00 highest_cubist_thrills; the fsf is turning into that

06:00 schestowitz[TR]; ->Microsoft occupies Open Source[tm]

06:00 highest_cubist_thrills; github makes an lf of everything.

06:00 schestowitz[TR]; Github is PROPRIETARY

06:00 schestowitz[TR]; OSI LOVES GitHub

06:00 highest_cubist_thrills; github + fsf = lf

06:00 schestowitz[TR]; OSI takes bribes fromGitHub

06:00 schestowitz[TR]; OSI launders money forGitHub

06:00 highest_cubist_thrills; and more to the point

06:00 highest_cubist_thrills; no one does anything about it

06:00 highest_cubist_thrills; because everyone at the fsf is fucking useless

06:01 highest_cubist_thrills; useless

06:01 highest_cubist_thrills; theres no need to suck up to them

06:01 highest_cubist_thrills; they only take up space

06:01 highest_cubist_thrills; they promote bullshit

06:01 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre scabs

06:01 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre corporate scabs

06:01 schestowitz[TR]; gtg biab

06:01 highest_cubist_thrills; lol

06:04 highest_cubist_thrills; 2014: debian taken over

06:04 highest_cubist_thrills; 2018: github taken over

06:04 highest_cubist_thrills; 2019: fsf taken over

06:04 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe these dates are later than they should be-- these are conservative estimates

06:05 highest_cubist_thrills; tied to major events rather than causes

06:05 highest_cubist_thrills; if you date by cause they would be earlier

06:07 highest_cubist_thrills; 2019: fsf taken over <- gnu as well (ongoing)

06:08 highest_cubist_thrills; the takeover of gnu has been relentless

06:08 highest_cubist_thrills; the people who "failed" are now in control

06:09 highest_cubist_thrills; surprise, its ibm and microsoft

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06:14 highest_cubist_thrills; 2011: stallman resigns as chief gnuisance, settles for an advisory role

06:15 highest_cubist_thrills; he softened then, too

06:15 highest_cubist_thrills; that would have been okay, if someone else had done the same job he needed to

06:15 highest_cubist_thrills; the gnu project is full of sheep

06:16 highest_cubist_thrills; its run by wolves

06:16 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre going to tear it to shreds

06:18 highest_cubist_thrills; wait until duix find out that no only emacs users will hold out for gnu 2.0

06:18 highest_cubist_thrills; as the world discovers that duix stands for nothing

06:18 highest_cubist_thrills; and thus has no features

06:19 highest_cubist_thrills; its a glorified package manager for emacs posing as an operating system

06:19 highest_cubist_thrills; emacs and gcc are both being taken over

06:19 highest_cubist_thrills; a future as shiny as red hat

06:20 highest_cubist_thrills; at best-- duix is doing for ibm what oliva did for red hat

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06:20 highest_cubist_thrills; i bet you in the future, one of the duix leads goes to work for microsoft

06:21 highest_cubist_thrills; the fsf move from issues to marketing will finally reach the top gnu projects

06:21 highest_cubist_thrills; youll see the duix logo everywhere you turn

06:21 highest_cubist_thrills; and then just like epstein, it will be gone

06:21 highest_cubist_thrills; and that will be gnu

06:22 highest_cubist_thrills; the fully free distros will no longer be updated regularly, but fall behind like they used to

06:23 highest_cubist_thrills; and the last big projects will be gcc (ibm) and wget (github) and emacs (which will also be github)

06:23 highest_cubist_thrills; gcc and emacs-- just like when it started

06:24 highest_cubist_thrills; like the end of the tron movie when the mcp became a printout of flynns computer game

06:24 highest_cubist_thrills; no one will care about wget, theyll use curl (github)

06:26 highest_cubist_thrills; i wonder what it will take for bash to die

06:27 highest_cubist_thrills; hard for me to guess what shell will become a bigger deal

06:27 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont like any of them

06:27 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre all bloated and ridiculous

06:27 highest_cubist_thrills; which is why i dont like bash

06:29 highest_cubist_thrills; i do like <() though

06:29 highest_cubist_thrills; <() is cool

06:29 highest_cubist_thrills; the one bash feature i dont use anymore, because its not available (when i dont use bash)

06:40 highest_cubist_thrills; <highest_cubist_thrills> i wonder what it will take for bash to die

06:40 highest_cubist_thrills; probably it will just move to github with the rest of what used to be gnu

06:41 highest_cubist_thrills; thanks to the people who used to be free software developers

06:41 highest_cubist_thrills; part of a movement that used to be about users controlling their computing

06:41 highest_cubist_thrills; which is now a contest to see who can take bill the deepest

06:42 geert; hmm i think it would then proof more accurate to focus to pharma

06:43 highest_cubist_thrills; well if i simply hated bill gates for being bill gates

06:43 highest_cubist_thrills; that would be a reasonable point

06:43 geert; like tryna catch bill via software... he kinda gets to delegate about almost all of that to others

06:43 highest_cubist_thrills; but since what i particularly resent is the entire free software movement bending over for monopolies

06:43 highest_cubist_thrills; pharma kinda has fuck-all to do with it

06:44 geert; well much drive there kinda didnt got to develop software for the right goals

06:44 geert; meaning they did it to gain userbase/fame/popularity/educate

06:44 geert; meaning kind of laying the definition of success in the hands of others

06:44 geert; and then when they found many others to be bigoted leeching ignorant goons

06:44 highest_cubist_thrills; sure, if you put your hand on the scale

06:44 geert; they kinda proof theyd idnt develop 'free software' for the right goals, hence unable to be affected all too much by userbase/fame/popularity/educate etc

06:45 highest_cubist_thrills; everyone weighs a few stone more

06:45 highest_cubist_thrills; they kinda proof theyd idnt develop 'free software' for the right goals <- my bullshit meter just exploded

06:45 geert; and they proof very influencable, they put their definition of success, so to speak, in the hands of what they later figured ignorant etc.

06:45 geert; so they practically, many of them, gave those influence to their development efforts

06:46 geert; and the many ignorant well, they didnt really use it but rather abuse it

06:46 highest_cubist_thrills; this is a fairly elitist take on software freedom

06:46 geert; so then many people figured, well, i dont wana this struggle costing lots of time if going along with 'time is money' means me getting large house etc.

06:46 geert; im not wanting miss out on large house for ignorants

06:46 geert; something along those lines

06:46 geert; so many kind of retreated

06:46 geert; i think thats what you talking about

06:46 highest_cubist_thrills; its not

06:47 highest_cubist_thrills; thats a very weird interpretation

06:47 highest_cubist_thrills; sounds more like some youtube guys take

06:47 geert; well i gotto admit i didnt just read through anything

06:47 geert; which probably a bit rude

06:47 highest_cubist_thrills; no its fine

06:47 geert; i gotto react to, lemme get it

06:47 highest_cubist_thrills; im not mental outlaw, distrotube or...

06:48 geert; well those later lines like about 'deepest' i got to react to

06:48 highest_cubist_thrills; whos the "cuck licenses" guy

06:48 highest_cubist_thrills; well those later lines like about 'deepest' i got to react to <- i suppose thats true

06:48 geert; yea it wasnt to prescribe your opinions

06:48 geert; i dont like such rude hostility mentally

06:49 geert; hostility dont necessarily need to be physically, but you probably get to know

06:49 geert; anyways if you get to feel depressed about it, i think you better not

06:49 highest_cubist_thrills; no everybodys happy now

06:49 geert; you should react eloquently and adequately to what you get offered via 'reality'

06:49 highest_cubist_thrills; by order of lieplanet

06:49 highest_cubist_thrills; happiness is mandatory

06:49 highest_cubist_thrills; manners are law

06:49 highest_cubist_thrills; everyone is cool now

06:49 highest_cubist_thrills; its great

06:50 geert; hmmm i kind of didnt really got to mean it like that

06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; microsoft can take over, we can like it

06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; what more do we need

06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; no but thats the thing

06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; no matter how you meant it personally

06:50 geert; well i think its gona turn a bit different with gates than many expect

06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; thats the order of the day

06:50 geert; and i think it doesnt even take so mmuch longer anymore

06:50 geert; actually and no you cannot 'enforce' people to 'be happy'

06:51 geert; lies are not very good, this is not a very smart thing to do to give in to lies

06:51 geert; happiness mandatory is not how happiness works, its how people wana disguise nasty shit as an example

06:51 highest_cubist_thrills; actually and no you cannot 'enforce' people to 'be happy' <- thats what a cult IS

06:51 geert; but you seem to get to know about that

06:52 geert; the cult rather tries utilize fear and disguise that behind as if favoring happiness i guess

06:52 highest_cubist_thrills; ys

06:52 highest_cubist_thrills; yes

06:52 geert; not everyone is cool and many manners are just crap that shouldnt even come close to be considered 'law'

06:52 highest_cubist_thrills; i agree

06:52 geert; nah you seem influenced by much crap into something like negativism or even depression

06:53 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah, i get that when i say negative things

06:53 geert; and i would like to point out to you: there are more possibilities than difficulties, any day, any night

06:53 highest_cubist_thrills; i keep meaning to turn myself into a reeducation centre

06:53 highest_cubist_thrills; but there isnt one on the bus lines yet

06:53 geert; it seem like you misfocus, like you got to study mishaps, wrongdoing and lots of crap and now are more or less subconsciously misfocussing onto difficulties as if there were more difficulties than possibilities

06:53 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre popping up everywhere so i figure there will be one thats easy to get to soon enough

06:54 geert; but i wouldnt want you to act as if you get better focus if for whatever reason misfocus continues to be issue

06:54 highest_cubist_thrills; what should i focus on

06:54 geert; some call it acting, and over the bag of so called 'your own health' either mentally or physically

06:54 geert; well i got toexperience some many issues also while ago and i wish you do not act about it i guess

06:55 geert; more possibilities than difficulties, that is better focus

06:55 highest_cubist_thrills; have you ever tried gentoo?

06:55 geert; yea some bit of playing around

06:55 geert; not really tried too much although i got to plan hump it a little so to say

06:56 geert; experiences should favor possibilities, not difficulties <-- better focus

06:56 geert; you dont get experiences to kind of automutilate yourself psychologically so to say

06:56 geert; i wish yyou dont consider that assault when i get to say things so directly.. :S

06:57 geert; look it seem easy talking to me but man i got to bump the geert nose into so many walls

06:57 geert; kinda miracle i still get to yap irc lines at you

06:57 geert; so to speak :/

06:57 geert; easy talking from me*

06:57 geert; jap irc lines* seems more proper utilization of english to me

06:58 highest_cubist_thrills; the trick to english is to say something meaningful

06:58 highest_cubist_thrills; its definitely a trick, they dont teach it in schools

06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 75.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 145.63

7 AM, September 13

07:02 geert; well if somebody dont want to read the meaningful and act as if it depend on some punctuation or spelling...

07:02 geert; i think the trick is then hijacked by ignorant influence that one dont need depend on

07:02 geert; sort of, so to say

07:02 geert; often this go together with lack of question

07:03 highest_cubist_thrills; you know many years ago

07:03 highest_cubist_thrills; people came and took my country away from me

07:04 geert; oof that appear like serious wrongdoing to me

07:04 geert; what country ifyou dont get to mind me asking?

07:04 highest_cubist_thrills; even since then ive tried to figure out why

07:04 highest_cubist_thrills; a european country, its not important which one

07:05 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, it used to be european

07:05 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont know what it is anymore

07:05 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: Things must be getting bad.

07:05 geert; oof it just feel heavy stuff to me, i get some experience regarding that kind of wrongdoing

07:05 DaemonFC; The movies brought back Jaws and other old stuff.

07:05 DaemonFC; They can't get people in to see the new ones.

07:05 highest_cubist_thrills; what happened to you?

07:06 geert; oof, quite a long explanation. i got to point out some things and people tried attacking me for it, some of em

07:06 geert; very secretly, in ways that others wouldnt see as they figured they could control it, partly by abusing pretty modern govt state security means

07:06 geert; tried make me appear crazy in eyes of parents etc.

07:07 geert; comes much to it, its not yet finished

07:07 geert; i still get to be in the country though

07:07 highest_cubist_thrills; the media in particular makes it worse

07:07 highest_cubist_thrills; always slanting every story

07:07 geert; real media is transfer type to message, much media want control the message instead of better control transfer process

07:08 geert; much so called nowadays media* i dont thin it really matches original definition of real media

07:08 geert; its fundamentally different what they get to do

07:08 geert; a little what seems to have happened to the word 'general'

07:08 geert; same words like many years ago

07:08 geert; different function

07:08 highest_cubist_thrills; words lose meaning when people forget where they came from

07:09 geert; they dont really lose meaning because people forget

07:09 geert; but forgetful people are often abused by lewd other people so to say

07:09 highest_cubist_thrills; but what about the journalists

07:09 geert; they wana utilize the ignorance or naivity of fellow, often because nasty goals

07:10 geert; journalist should not lie, if they lie, they put focus on message instead of transporting it

07:10 geert; they then move from telling you something, or me, to interpreting it

07:10 geert; that is kind of elitist uber/untermensch reality

07:10 highest_cubist_thrills; :)

07:10 geert; how dare they assume they need to interpret for me or you without asking decent questions first calling it transportation

07:11 highest_cubist_thrills; another fucking handle, for gods sake

07:11 geert; words dont just lose meaning, but some want to bend definition to terms secretly

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07:11 geert; oof i get worried feel

07:12 geert; somebody who get to know this person should try reroute focus to possiblities and watch negativism isnt kind of taking over, try to help

07:12 geert; listen its not some joke, that is like fellow people, he dont really appear like some ignorant goon who just tryna phish to me

07:13 geert; ehm.. read* instead of listen ofc

07:13 geert; anywayswhy would that person just leave from this irc context?i get worried feel!

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07:13 highest_cubist_thrills; motherfucker

07:14 geert; did you get feel like i got you hurt?

07:14 geert; i didnt really want to

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07:14 geert; i seriously think you got some focus issue difficulty that i think you should try focus differently

07:15 geert; you get lots of experience, many many causes/reasons and possibilities like that!

07:15 highest_cubist_thrills; hitler reacts to guy in irc with 1000 fucking handles

07:16 geert; hitler is over, the adolf one. maybe some family or something

07:17 geert; is just like past, over, finito, finished, he tried mess with many fellow, he got bear heavy reality that he figured able to work into such heavy, so to say

07:17 geert; we dont need too much think about it, its arranged, its over

07:17 geert; wtf did he got to achieve? its lots of misery man, preferably dont idolize it, let go, its over with that former goon

07:17 geert; former coz its over

07:17 geert; finito, finished.

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07:23 highest_cubist_thrills; if anyone wants to know what chuck norris would be like as a german nationalist softboy

07:23 highest_cubist_thrills; come to #techrights, we can show you

07:23 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: I will put my crypto family photo in my crypto wallet

07:23 DaemonFC; NFFs. Non-Fungible Family

07:24 DaemonFC; Just chop the family up and turn them into NFFs.

07:24 DaemonFC; When the police arrive, say NO NO, THEY'RE IN THE BLOCKCHAIN!

07:24 DaemonFC; REALLY!

07:24 DaemonFC; YOU JUST CAN'T SEE THEM BECAUSE REASONS......

07:25 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]btw, how is marisol'd crypto wallet doing?

07:25 DaemonFC; Badly, I'm sure.

07:25 DaemonFC; Very sophisticated.

07:25 DaemonFC; She has everything figured out.

07:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: I just enrolled in a COVID-19 study.

07:27 DaemonFC; I think it should be fairly harmless.

07:28 DaemonFC; They just send you a year's worth of Vitamin D3 and it'll either be 400 IU or 4,000 IU and you won't know which.

07:28 *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving)

07:28 DaemonFC; They ask you to stop taking any other supplemental Vitamin D3, and they give you COVID tests.

07:28 DaemonFC; They ask you to use one of the COVID tests each week and report in for a year.

07:29 DaemonFC; It's to see if supplemental Vitamin D3 has any effect on whether people get COVID during the next year.

07:30 DaemonFC; Finally someone is studying this.

07:32 geert; well better be careful with teh drugs

07:32 geert; anyways ima get some sleep i guess

07:32 geert; its kind of 8.30 am local time /CET here

07:32 geert; better not tell mom i guess

07:34 geert; ohand if 'hackers' tryna break opsec etc. tryna steal 'stash' here, ima get warning; theres so much goons tryna fish around here, you cannot get through unseen plus you deliver lots of info about what you think you can do, trickery etc. including zerodays before you even finish trying, they see, and i guess you rather get paid for zerodays than leaking like a old granny hoe

07:34 geert; oh and*

07:35 DaemonFC; Vitamin D is pretty safe as long as you don't go too crazy (over 5,000 IU per day) with the supplements.

07:35 geert; and i dont put stash in such environments btw so etc.

07:36 geert; so ima try sleep, bbl :)

07:36 DaemonFC; If you go over that, it should be because your doctor is prescribing it and monitoring your blood levels.

07:36 geert; try not to piss it out, since intake such vitamins is related to some triggers otherwise you might piss lots out

07:37 geert; oh i should try sleep i guess bbl :)

07:39 loner; morning

07:40 loner; anyway, currently, as usual, after the first coffee and cigeratte passed the brain-blood barrier

07:40 loner; i began thinking

07:40 loner; what if, i wanted to remove all software which requires the GNU(!) autotools/automake

07:41 loner; a userspace, such as toybox, don't need them

07:42 mjg59_; Why not just start from the Android userland

07:42 mjg59_; It has no GNU and it already targets Linux

07:42 loner; mjg59_: i am not concerned about GNU itself nor GPL

07:42 loner; it is the GNU-toolchain (gcc/binutils/...), and GNU build-system (autotools, make, ...)

07:43 mjg59_; Yes, and Android doesn't use the GNU build-system

07:43 loner; anyway, development utilitities

07:44 loner; vim doesn't need autotools, tcc-toolchain doesn't

07:44 chunky; i love vim sosoososoo much!!!!

07:45 loner; here comes the first one: dev-vcs/git

07:47 loner; git does utilize a configure.ac, at least no Makefile.am

07:47 loner; however, a configure.ac builds up such a giant dependency graph, that's bad enough

07:48 loner; reminder, i had to roll-back perl to version 5.8 (year 2003), any later didn't pass tcc-toolchain

07:48 loner; git git git git

07:50 loner; and i think, for kernel itself, the kbuild-system requires perl too; at least perl doesn't utilize autotools

07:50 loner; hence, perl won't block

07:50 loner; git will

07:50 DaemonFC; I swear someone in Hollywood is literally just digging up my beloved childhood movies and redoing them with a Chinese Communist official and Matthew Garrett striking through the parts of the final draft they don't like, which was written by the script writers of those Redbox Bruce Willis movies.

07:51 DaemonFC; Garrett moves on from the software industry.....

07:51 DaemonFC; mjg59_Why not just start from the Android userland

07:51 DaemonFC; mjg59_It has no GNU and it already targets Linux

07:51 DaemonFC; I tried to run an Android "app" on Fedora today.

07:51 DaemonFC; It was packaged in Flatpak.

07:52 DaemonFC; As soon as I ran it, my computer started flaking out and then crashed.

07:52 DaemonFC; I had to hold in the power button.

07:52 DaemonFC; It was almost exactly like something that happens a few times a week under Windows.

07:52 DaemonFC; First time in 16 years I had a complete system crash using a stable GNU/Linux distribution, and it was because I loaded an Android "app.

07:53 loner; dev-vcs/git is worth the effort, to manually track the config.h i think

07:56 loner; however, git got dependencies... openssl/libressl (ouch, another configure.ac), zlib

07:56 loner; etc etc.

07:56 loner; maybe, git can be linked against bearssl/bearssl-libtls

07:57 DaemonFC; Things probably can't get much worse than OpenSSL.

07:58 loner; i think oasis linux integrated bearssl, and chances are this too included git

07:58 loner; that's not a blocker, not yet

07:58 DaemonFC; https://research.swtch.com/openssl

=> ↺ https://research.swtch.com/openssl

07:58 TR Bot; research!rsc: Lessons from the Debian/OpenSSL Fiasco

07:58 loner; without git, live got no meaning no more

07:58 DaemonFC; Except for the time Debian took OpenSSL and made it worse somehow.

07:59 loner; i had bearssl/bearssl-libtls on TODO for a while already

07:59 DaemonFC; " Last week, Debian announced that in September 2006 they accidentally broke the OpenSSL pseudo-random number generator while trying to silence a Valgrind warning. One effect this had is that the ssh-keygen program installed on recent Debian systems (and Debian-derived systems like Ubuntu) could only generate 32,767 different possible SSH keys of a given type and size, so there are a lot of...

07:59 DaemonFC; ...people walking around with the same keys. "

07:59 DaemonFC; :)

07:59 DaemonFC; (2008)

07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.56 k/sec., IPFS upstream 51.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 147.25

07:59 loner; got a test-integration already, catgirl irc linked against it, statically... it works, bearssl i mean

8 AM, September 13

08:01 loner; sys-libs/zlib -> autotools, ouch

08:02 DaemonFC; "There were other MD_update calls in the code that didn't use buf, and those remained. The only one that was a little unpredictable was one in RAND_bytes that added the current process ID to the entropy pool on each call. That's why OpenSSH could still generate 32,767 possible SSH keys of a given type and size (one for each pid) instead of just one. "

08:02 DaemonFC; Well, if it always generated the same key, then it would have been spotted sooner, I suppose. :)

08:03 loner; zlib could be, it's optional with dev-vcs/git... i hope

08:04 DaemonFC; "The OpenSSL code's paranoia hid the Debian-introduced bug. Throwing the pid into the entropy pool on each call to RAND_bytes isn't actually helping create entropy, but it does keep the buggy Debian version from being completely deterministic. If it had been completely deterministic, the bug would likely have been noticed much sooner, probably long before it got into a stable release. "

08:05 loner; allright, this is the plan now

08:06 loner; 1) verify mes-libc from bootstrappable, to compile/link/assemble this one with tcc-toolchain

08:06 loner; 2) compile/link toybox userspace against mes-libc

08:06 DaemonFC; https://www.jwz.org/blog/2022/09/ipod/

=> ↺ https://www.jwz.org/blog/2022/09/ipod/

08:06 TR Bot; jwz: iPod

08:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: JWZ finally calls it the "clown".

08:06 DaemonFC; "streaming clown nonsense"

08:06 DaemonFC; :)

08:06 DaemonFC; "I picked up a refurbished iPod 5 with 1TB of storage. I am trying this experiment because the iOS "Music" app just gets more and more annoying with every passing month. It barely seems to acknowledge that one might play music from files that one owns rather than whatever streaming clown nonsense."

08:07 loner; 3) bearssl/libtls, git, vim... all of them linked against mes-libc (if possible)

08:07 loner; the bootstrappable.org people reported success with mes-libc compiled with tcc-toolchain, and bash linked against it

08:07 DaemonFC; "Anyway, I got this iPod and then I immediately bricked it.

08:07 DaemonFC; I verified that it was working with a few dozen songs; and then I copied around 67,000 tracks onto it, which took two days. This caused it to become permanently stuck at the white-on-black Apple logo boot screen."

08:08 DaemonFC; He bricked what was a VERY expensive MP3 player by copying MP3s to it.

08:08 DaemonFC; And instead of failing to handle it in some SANE manner if there was a good reason not to, it broke the piece of shit instead.

08:08 DaemonFC; MinceR: ^ Apple

08:08 loner; hence, toybox could be possible/feasible; then git, vim, posix make etc. to retain a usable userspace including required development utilities including tcc-toolchain

08:08 loner; however, without GNU-toolchain and without GNU-buildsystem

08:09 loner; and the system must remain self-hosting, meaning it must contain all utilities to compile/bootstrap itself

08:09 loner; if this succeeds, i'll re-iterate over linux kernel-build with tcc-toolchain

08:10 loner; i mean, i would even be willing to roll-back to kernel linux-2.4 on x86 if necessary

08:12 loner; in the end, the final system bundle will be minimal anyway, hence i too would be willing to drop dev-vcs/git and move to rcs/cvs if necessary

08:13 loner; scraping required sources, and ditch the clutter

08:13 loner; what else?

08:14 loner; the central elements of this approach are: tcc-toolchain and libc first

08:17 DaemonFC; https://cfenollosa.com/blog/after-self-hosting-my-email-for-twenty-three-years-i-have-thrown-in-the-towel-the-oligopoly-has-won.html

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08:17 TR Bot; After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel. The oligopoly has won.

08:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: ^

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08:20 loner; mjg59_: Android's policy is "no GPL in userspace", for political reasons, political reasons i disagree with

08:20 loner; i am not at all opposed to GPL, in fact i consider GPL (copyleft) too weak to protect software freedom

08:21 loner; the reasons to avoid GNU-toolchain and buildsystem are technical ones

08:22 TR News; Links 12/09/2022: New in KDE Plasma 5.26, Istio Has New Releases | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/12/istio-has-new-releases/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/12/istio-has-new-releases/

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08:22 TR Bot; Links 12/09/2022: New in KDE Plasma 5.26, Istio Has New Releases | Techrights

08:26 loner; btw. a rollback to linux-2.4, if necessary, wouldn't block against an open-hardware option either

08:27 loner; some i486 SoC are documented for deployment to FPGA, although incomplete, Altera FPGA being expensive, and mostly proprietary

08:28 loner; however, deep down below in this realm j-core.org too struggled with similar problems, and anyone else will too ... RISC-V

08:28 loner; with an x86 open-hardware SoC other problems remain: peripheral I/O (usb, vga, ethernet etc);

08:29 loner; and even some very expensive Altera FPGA ($800), barely sufficed to push beyond a few dozen MHz

08:29 TR News; Notice how SJVN and OIN refuse or fail to speak about software patents as the issue, they blame "trolls". IBM, Microsoft, LF etc. are not against software patents; watch who they collect bribes from!

08:30 loner; https://github.com/alfikpl/ao486

=> ↺ https://github.com/alfikpl/ao486

08:30 TR Bot; - alfikpl/ao486: The ao486 is an x86 compatible Verilog core implementing all features of a 486 SX.

08:32 loner; anyway, i finished archival of the gcc47 c-only toolchain system profile

08:32 loner; it works, got a w3m browser still, some sixel graphics, even some multi-media fun with libsdl1,mplayer etc.

08:33 loner; almost all of this passed with tcc-toolchain too btw.; except libc

08:33 loner; and once libc is replaced with mes-libc (if possible, not sure yet), most of the c-only toolchain profile userspace will be gone

08:33 loner; too for the reason, i am not willing to struggle with autotools anymore

08:34 loner; it'll be two system-profiles 1) gcc47 2) tcc-toolchain

08:34 loner; the gcc47 system remained gentoo/self-hosting, against a recent portage testing from february this year

08:35 loner; and the gcc47 system too can emit a tcc-toolchain system devdrop (including mplayer,libsdl1 etc)

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08:35 loner; however, the tcc-toolchain profile is still blocked against libc which requires binutils

08:36 loner; henceforth, a tcc-toolchain system profile will require a rebuild from scratch

08:36 loner; beginning with mes-libc and toybox userspace and the fun mentioned above

08:37 loner; in the end, a tcc-toolchain system, if at all, will roll-back to late 1990s "free software"

08:39 loner; thinking about it, a rollback to kernel-2.4 (or any 2.6)... nilfs2 filesystem support will be gone

08:40 loner; i don't care, ext2 will be fine too

08:42 loner; allright, another decision made, rollback to linux-2.4/2.6, any which passed with tcc-toolchain

08:42 loner; for the sake of simplicity, any recent hardware-trends which require a recent kernel are, not irelevant, including RISC-V

08:42 loner; *not relevant

08:43 loner; with kernel-2.4/2.6 targetting any legacy x86 system, i won't need to bother with difficult tcc-toolchain integration, this was accomplished already

08:43 loner; besides, ARM and RISC-V often utilize uboot-loader, and uboot got some nasty build-time dependencies (c++/python/swig)

08:44 loner; those dependencies are a nasty blocker, hence i am not aware of a bootstrapping path of python2/3 with tcc-toolchain

08:44 loner; it's mainly libffi, i am not willing to hack this, only to support uboot-loader

08:45 loner; and tcc-toolchain integration with uboot-loader had not been approached by anyone yet either, i won't

08:45 loner; hence, kernel-2.4/2.6 and some legacy x86

08:45 loner; for the tcc-toolchain profile

08:46 loner; another idea is, given the situation surround git, to grab some legacy source-base from year 2000 some time (some debian apt-source boundles whatever), and see what is available with this

08:47 loner; and, i could skip the idea of aarch32 support with tcc-toolchain entirely, could be assembly support for x86 with tcc-toolchain is less troublesome

08:50 loner; besides, the firmware-situation with i486 opensource SoC didn't look that bad either... for the ao486 it is some bochs/seabios

08:52 loner; and, x86 hardware for linux-2.4/2.6 won't be that expensive either

08:53 loner; too, relevant hardware should be sufficiently fast, with tcc-toolchain to work 100% from source

08:53 loner; this will be a non-issue once and for all then

08:58 TR News; A False Sense of Privacy and Safety is Ruining Otherwise Fine Browsers (Like Kristall) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/13/kristall-tls-bug/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/13/kristall-tls-bug/

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08:58 TR Bot; A False Sense of Privacy and Safety is Ruining Otherwise Fine Browsers (Like Kristall) | Techrights

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08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 99.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 156.28

9 AM, September 13

09:01 TR News; egalaxyd 0.5.1 gemini://tilde.pink/~slondr/egalaxyd-5.1.gmi

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09:02 loner; anyway, gcc47 c-only toolchain system profile is frozen/archived, for aarch32/64/amd64... that's blocked for all eternity

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09:03 loner; any path to keep rolling forward beyond this is futile, including RISC-V, with the acceptance criteria of mine

09:04 loner; and instead of rolling-forward, let's see what a roll-back of 20years with particular components accomplishes

09:05 loner; 10years of struggle, bam, why not, roll-back, and block

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09:05 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Monday, September 12, 2022 | Techrights

09:06 loner; for this, tcc-toolchain is crucial, because of the compile-time performance (of gcc/g++/llvm), and limited hardware resources available then

09:06 loner; and i think, run-time performance with tcc-toolchain is sufficient, already did some initial testing

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09:07 loner; granted, for example, ssh key-exchange is considerably slower, starting mutt mailer requires 3seconds instead of <1s... who cares?

09:07 loner; i don't.

09:08 loner; runtime-performance won't be an issue, with something at the scale of a dual-core with 2GHz and 2GiB RAM, even when compiling/bootstrapping everything 100% from source

09:08 loner; with a source-based workflow

09:08 loner; with GNU-toolchain this wouldn't be pleasent

09:08 loner; i mean, tcc-toolchain compiles/bootstraps in a 1minute including various cross-compilers even

09:09 loner; a single gcc cross-compiler bootstrapping requires hour(s)

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09:38 TR News; "NNCP is one of those things that almost defies explanation." https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10421-dead-usb-drives-are-fine-building-a-reliable-sneakernet | Source: John Goerzen

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09:38 TR Bot; Dead USB Drives Are Fine: Building a Reliable Sneakernet | The Changelog

09:39 TR News; "Hello, it's been a long time I didn't have to take a look at monitoring servers." https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-09-11-exploring-monitoring-stacks.html | Source: Data Swamp

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09:39 TR Bot; Solene'% : Explaining modern server monitoring stacks for self-hosting

09:40 TR News; "During the discussion cycle, many (if not most?) have failed to see the great potentia" https://notes.volution.ro/v1/2022/09/remarks/794866f7/ | Source: Ciprian Dorin Craciun

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09:40 TR Bot; [remark] Securing my static site server with seccomp -- Volution Notes

09:40 TR News; "As a practical matter, I don't think we'd deploy any reused server with less than 4 GB of RAM" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/ServerMemoryShiftingAmounts | Source: uni Toronto

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09:40 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/ServerMemoryShiftingAmounts

09:40 TR News; [Old] "POSSE is an abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Els" https://indieweb.org/POSSE |

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09:40 TR Bot; POSSE - IndieWeb

09:47 TR News; OpenBSD "For those unfamiliar with the process: this is not the 7.2 release" https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220912055003 | Source: Undeadly

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09:47 TR Bot; -current has moved to 7.2

09:48 TR News; "So I came to think that there might be some generators of disagreement around the subject" https://www.epistem.ink/p/generators-of-disagreement-with-ai | Source: George

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09:48 TR Bot; Generators Of Disagreement With AI Alignment - by George

09:49 TR News; "UCEPROTECT Level 3 blocks ASNs which you can think of as a group of IP ranges operated by an ISP." https://cendyne.dev/posts/2022-02-26-moving-off-self-hosted-email.html |

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09:49 TR Bot; Moving off self hosted email

09:51 TR News; UML https://andydote.co.uk/2022/09/11/uml-isnt-dead/ |

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09:51 TR Bot; The reports of UML's death are greatly exaggerated | Andy Dote

10 AM, September 13

10:01 TR News; "Nils started experimenting with Linux with dual booting since 2005" https://boilingsteam.com/introducing-nils-our-new-team-member/ | Source: Boiling Steam

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10:01 TR Bot; Introducing Nils, Our New Team Member - Boiling Steam

10:01 TR News; "In a tweet Saturday"... :/ not the way to do it https://www.axios.com/2022/09/11/border-patrol-deactivates-texas-twitter | Source: Axios

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10:01 TR Bot; Border Patrol deactivates regional Twitter account after "inappropriate" posts

10:02 TR News; "I'll be taking 12 weeks off of work and attending Recurse Center in the Fall 2 batch" https://ntietz.com/tech-blog/going-to-recurse-center/ | Source: Nicholas Tietz-Sokolsky

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10:02 TR Bot; I'm taking a sabbatical and attending Recurse Center! | nicholas@web

10:02 TR News; "College Boards announcement to digitalize the SAT made major news headlines" https://insidesources.com/are-textbook-publishers-playing-a-role-in-cheating-trends/ |

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10:02 TR Bot; Textbook Publishers Playing a Role in Cheating Trends? InsideSources

10:03 TR News; "Today, On Point: Protecting America's public libraries" https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2022/09/08/censorship-wars-defund-public-libraries | Source: WBUR Radio

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10:03 TR Bot; Censorship wars: Why have several communities voted to defund their public libraries? | On Point

10:03 TR News; Social control media = addiction to something that HARMS you https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/health-a-wellbeing/22185-addiction-to-facebook-and-instagram-among-teenagers-is-linked-to-inequality-research.html | Source: Helsinki Times

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10:03 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/health-a-wellbeing/22185-addiction-to-facebook-and-instagram-among-teenagers-is-linked-to-inequality-research.html )

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10:04 TR News; LSD https://futurism.com/neoscope/lsd-therapy-effective-anxiety-depression | Source: Futurism

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10:04 TR Bot; Study Finds LSD Therapy Strikingly Effective at Reducing Anxiety and Depression

10:05 TR News; "To do this successfully without anyone else impersonating you, a Digital Signature Algorithm (DSA) is used to authenticate you." https://cendyne.dev/posts/2022-09-11-ed25519-deep-dive-addendum.html |

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10:05 TR Bot; Ed25519 Deep Dive Addendum

10:06 TR News; [Old] "Digital Signature Algorithms (DSAs) underpin modern technology enabling phone calls, emails, operating system updates" https://cendyne.dev/posts/2022-03-06-ed25519-signatures.html |

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10:06 TR Bot; A Deep dive into Ed25519 Signatures

10:06 TR News; "I have never put any money into bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies." https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2022/09/your-forgotten-blockchain-account.html | Source: BSDly

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10:06 TR Bot; That grumpy BSD guy: Your 'Forgotten' Blockchain Account Needing Reactivation? It's a Scam

10:07 TR News; "At DEF CON 30 "Crypto Agility" and "Post Quantum" buzz words were repeated in several villages." https://cendyne.dev/posts/2022-08-24-post-quantum-crypto-agility.html |

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10:07 TR Bot; Crypto Agility and Post Quantum

10:08 TR News; Environment https://futurism.com/neoscope/young-people-cancer-health-medical | Source: Futurism

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10:08 TR Bot; Young People Are Getting Way More Cancer Than Old People Did

10:08 TR News; "A lot of that needs to be built where the resource is" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/11/opinion/biden-climate-congress-infrastructure.html | Source: New York Times

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10:08 TR Bot; Opinion | All Biden Has to Do Now Is Change the Way We Live - The New York Times

10:09 TR News; "Sky & Telescope readers can record scientifically useful observations of BlueWalker 3." https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-news/as-bluewalker-satellites-join-a-brightening-sky-heres-how-you-can-help/ |

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10:09 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-news/as-bluewalker-satellites-join-a-brightening-sky-heres-how-you-can-help/ )

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10:13 MinceR; lol @ hypePod

10:13 MinceR; especially lol @ jwz

10:13 TR News; Social control media = interference companies https://text.npr.org/1121887926 | Source: NPR

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10:13 TR Bot; Social media firms are prepping for the midterms. Experts say it may not be enough

10:14 TR News; "The White House plan is a mixed bag." https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/10/big-data/#230-quagmire | Source: CoryDoctorow

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10:14 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 10 Sep 2022 American healthcare did a fuckery, the White House has a plan for Big Tech big-data Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

10:14 MinceR; he keeps punishing himself with that crap and doesn't learn from any of it

10:14 TR News; "The changes are being initiated in the wake of the tapping of PASOK President Nikos Androulakis phone" https://www.ekathimerini.com/news/1193070/uk-model-eyed-for-intelligence-services/ |

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10:14 TR Bot; model eyed for intelligence services | eKathimerini.com

10:15 TR News; Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. https://text.npr.org/1122379162 | Source: NPR

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10:15 TR Bot; Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as the 'Not My King' tag grows

10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

10:21 TR News; "Lets just ban all the books." https://lasvegassun.com/news/2022/sep/09/lets-just-ban-all-the-books/ |

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10:21 TR News; On unionizing https://text.npr.org/1120759940 | Source: NPR

=> ↺ https://text.npr.org/1120759940

10:21 TR Bot; Meet the strippers working to unionize a Los Angeles dive bar

10:22 TR News; [Old] "Notice whats missing: Free Software / FLOSS in the Richard Stallman sense of the word." https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10417-the-pc-internet-revolution-in-rural-america | Source: John Goerzen

=> ↺ https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10417-the-pc-internet-revolution-in-rural-america

10:22 TR Bot; The PC & Internet Revolution in Rural America | The Changelog

10:32 TR News; (NEW): 11 Interesting Firefox Add-ons to Improve Your Browsing Experience http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/11_Interesting_Firefox_Add_ons_to_Improve_Your_Browsing_Experie.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/11_Interesting_Firefox_Add_ons_to_Improve_Your_Browsing_Experie.gmi

=> ↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/11_Interesting_Firefox_Add_ons_to_Improve_Your_Browsing_Experie.shtml
=> ↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/11_Interesting_Firefox_Add_ons_to_Improve_Your_Browsing_Experie.gmi

10:32 TR Bot; Tux Machines 11 Interesting Firefox Add-ons to Improve Your Browsing Experience

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10:36 TR News; On "accessibility" https://www.propublica.org/article/voter-participation-literacy-accessibility | Source: Pro Publica

=> ↺ https://www.propublica.org/article/voter-participation-literacy-accessibility

10:36 TR Bot; How We Analyzed Literacy and Voter Turnout ProPublica

10:36 TR News; "You do not have to prove you can read or write to vote." https://www.propublica.org/article/guide-to-voter-accessibility | Source: Pro Publica

=> ↺ https://www.propublica.org/article/guide-to-voter-accessibility

10:36 TR Bot; Quick Guide to Voting Accessibility for All ProPublica

10:38 TR News; Quad9 as Internet police? https://torrentfreak.com/dns-resolver-quad9-continues-to-fight-pirate-site-blocking-demands-220913/ | Source: Torrent Freak

=> ↺ https://torrentfreak.com/dns-resolver-quad9-continues-to-fight-pirate-site-blocking-demands-220913/

10:38 TR Bot; Resolver Quad9 Continues to Fight Pirate Site Blocking Demands * TorrentFreak

10:38 TR News; "The Alliance for Creativity and Entertainment has announced the shutdown of seven domains linked to illegal streaming" https://torrentfreak.com/ace-shuts-down-more-illegal-steaming-sites-these-sites-may-be-next-220912/ | Source: Torrent Freak

=> ↺ https://torrentfreak.com/ace-shuts-down-more-illegal-steaming-sites-these-sites-may-be-next-220912/

10:38 TR Bot; Shuts Down More Illegal Steaming Sites - These Sites May Be Next * TorrentFreak

10:38 TR News; "Ace Stream is a decentralized streaming tool with millions of users." https://torrentfreak.com/p2p-streaming-tool-ace-stream-decries-unjustified-site-blocking-and-piracy-allegations-220912/ | Source: Torrent Freak

=> ↺ https://torrentfreak.com/p2p-streaming-tool-ace-stream-decries-unjustified-site-blocking-and-piracy-allegations-220912/

10:38 TR Bot; Streaming Tool "Ace Stream" Decries Unjustified Site Blocking and Piracy Allegations * TorrentFreak

10:40 TR News; Steam Deck https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/valve-dev-shows-more-steam-deck-prototypes/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

=> ↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/valve-dev-shows-more-steam-deck-prototypes/

10:40 TR Bot; dev shows more Steam Deck prototypes | GamingOnLinux

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10:57 TR News; (NEW): Remixing Linux for blind and visually impaired users http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Remixing_Linux_for_blind_and_visually_impaired_users.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Remixing_Linux_for_blind_and_visually_impaired_users.gmi

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10:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines Remixing Linux for blind and visually impaired users

10:57 TR News; (NEW): CubyText is a Fast Cross-Platform Open-Source Knowledge Management App in Development http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/CubyText_is_a_Fast_Cross_Platform_Open_Source_Knowledge_Managem.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/CubyText_is_a_Fast_Cross_Platform_Open_Source_Knowledge_Managem.gmi

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10:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines CubyText is a Fast Cross-Platform Open-Source Knowledge Management App in Development

10:58 TR News; Retro https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/building-a-retro-linux-gaming-computer-part-18-run-away-and-join-the-circus/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

=> ↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/building-a-retro-linux-gaming-computer-part-18-run-away-and-join-the-circus/

10:58 TR Bot; a Retro Linux Gaming Computer - Part 18: Run Away and Join the Circus | GamingOnLinux

10:58 TR News; "It's Disney Dreamlight Valley from Gameloft" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-i-like-disney-dreamlight-valley-m-works-well-on-steam-deck-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

=> ↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-i-like-disney-dreamlight-valley-m-works-well-on-steam-deck-linux/

10:58 TR Bot; hate to admit it but I like Disney Dreamlight Valley works well on Steam Deck / Linux | GamingOnLinux

10:58 TR News; Left 4 Dead 2 https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/valve-are-still-fixing-up-left-4-dead-2-over-10-years-after-release/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

=> ↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/valve-are-still-fixing-up-left-4-dead-2-over-10-years-after-release/

10:58 TR Bot; are still fixing up Left 4 Dead 2, over 10 years after release | GamingOnLinux

10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 162.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 153.90

11 AM, September 13

11:04 TR News; "Distrobox is a way to use pretty much any other Linux distribution in your terminal" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/distrobox-can-open-up-the-steam-deck-to-a-whole-new-world/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

=> ↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/distrobox-can-open-up-the-steam-deck-to-a-whole-new-world/

11:04 TR Bot; can open up the Steam Deck to a whole new world | GamingOnLinux

11:04 TR News; Xenospore https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/defend-humanity-from-an-alien-organism-in-puzzle-game-xenospore/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

=> ↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/defend-humanity-from-an-alien-organism-in-puzzle-game-xenospore/

11:04 TR Bot; humanity from an alien organism in puzzle game Xenospore | GamingOnLinux

11:04 TR News; GloriousEggroll :) https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/ge-proton-7-33-and-wine-ge-proton-7-28-are-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

=> ↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/ge-proton-7-33-and-wine-ge-proton-7-28-are-out-now/

11:04 TR Bot; 7-33 and Wine-GE-Proton 7-28 are out now | GamingOnLinux

11:04 TR News; Heroic Games Launcher https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/heroic-games-launcher-version-243-is-another-critical-bug-fix-release/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

=> ↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/heroic-games-launcher-version-243-is-another-critical-bug-fix-release/

11:04 TR Bot; Games Launcher version 2.4.3 is another critical bug-fix release | GamingOnLinux

11:04 TR News; "The Vision Box AI integrates the latest Jetson AGX Orin 64GB model from NVIDIA which offers the following features" https://linuxgizmos.com/vision-box-ai-features-nvidias-64gb-agx-orin-gpu-module/ | Source: Linux Gizmos

=> ↺ https://linuxgizmos.com/vision-box-ai-features-nvidias-64gb-agx-orin-gpu-module/

11:04 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/vision-box-ai-features-nvidias-64gb-agx-orin-gpu-module/ )

=> ↺ https://linuxgizmos.com/vision-box-ai-features-nvidias-64gb-agx-orin-gpu-module/

11:05 TR News; "As a Linux user, you are probably already familiar with crontab" https://linuxhandbook.com/check-crontab-logs/ | Source: Linux Handbook

=> ↺ https://linuxhandbook.com/check-crontab-logs/

11:05 TR Bot; How to Check Crontab logs in Linux

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11:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1753874

=> ↺ https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1753874

11:08 TR Bot; 1753874 - Replying to a tiktok comment gives an error: couldn't post comment

11:08 DaemonFC; https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1769762

=> ↺ https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1769762

11:08 TR Bot; 1769762 - Override navigator.plugins and navigator.mimeTypes for TikTok

11:08 DaemonFC; https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1772949

=> ↺ https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1772949

11:08 TR Bot; 1772949 - Set navigator.share to undefined on YouTube iframe

11:12 DaemonFC; TikTok is completely hosed in Firefox without this patch.

11:12 DaemonFC; :)

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11:13 TR News; (NEW): ESP-Hosted helps adds WiFi connectivity to legacy Linux or MCU-based products http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/ESP_Hosted_helps_adds_WiFi_connectivity_to_legacy_Linux_or_MCU_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/ESP_Hosted_helps_adds_WiFi_connectivity_to_legacy_Linux_or_MCU_.gmi

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11:13 TR Bot; Tux Machines ESP-Hosted helps adds WiFi connectivity to legacy Linux or MCU-based products

11:13 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: no great loss

11:13 schestowitz[TR]; don't use either

11:13 schestowitz[TR]; firefox

11:13 schestowitz[TR]; the web

11:14 schestowitz[TR]; tiktok

11:14 schestowitz[TR]; tiktok is an app

11:14 schestowitz[TR]; for ios

11:14 schestowitz[TR]; android

11:14 schestowitz[TR]; chrome

11:15 DaemonFC; There's a "Web site" but it's made for Chrome. I wonder if they bother to make sure it works in Safari.

11:15 DaemonFC; Guessing not.

11:15 TR News; The EU's AI Act Could Have a Chilling Effect on Open Source Efforts, Experts Warn - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/09/11/0645257 Source: Soylent News http://techrights.org/2022/01/11/buzzwords-from-brussels/

=> ↺ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/09/11/0645257
=> http://techrights.org/2022/01/11/buzzwords-from-brussels/

11:15 TR Bot; The EU's AI Act Could Have a Chilling Effect on Open Source Efforts, Experts Warn - SoylentNews

11:15 TR Bot; A Soup of Buzzwords From Brussels (the European Commission) | Techrights

11:16 schestowitz[TR]; if there was a safari, tiktok would put it on the sinner table

11:16 schestowitz[TR]; *dinner

11:16 TR News; iophk: "twitter should /never/ be used by agencies in place of official channels of communication" https://www.axios.com/2022/09/11/border-patrol-deactivates-texas-twitter

=> ↺ https://www.axios.com/2022/09/11/border-patrol-deactivates-texas-twitter

11:16 TR Bot; Border Patrol deactivates regional Twitter account after "inappropriate" posts

11:16 TR News; Low Esg Scores - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2022-09-12 | Dilbert by Scott Adams https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-09-12

=> ↺ https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-09-12

11:16 TR Bot; Esg Scores - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2022-09-12 | Dilbert by Scott Adams

11:17 TR News; WiFi Hacking with Airgeddon, Kismet and Kodys favourite hacking tools https://odysee.com/@davidbombal:0/wifi-hacking-with-airgeddon,-kismet-and:a Source: | loquacious but informative

=> ↺ https://odysee.com/@davidbombal:0/wifi-hacking-with-airgeddon,-kismet-and:a

11:17 TR Bot; WiFi Hacking with Airgeddon, Kismet and Kody's favourite hacking tools

11:19 TR News; IN RE: FACEBOOK, INC. CONSUMER PRIVACY USER PROFILE LITIGATION https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.327471/gov.uscourts.cand.327471.982.0_1.pdf

=> ↺ https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.327471/gov.uscourts.cand.327471.982.0_1.pdf

11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

11:22 TR News; Impediments to self-hosting and self-determination (not outsourcing of "trust" for instance) are increasing; today we look at the case of Kristall, a highly versatile multi-protocol browser http://techrights.org/2022/09/13/kristall-tls-bug/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/09/13/kristall-tls-bug/

11:22 TR Bot; A False Sense of Privacy and Safety is Ruining Otherwise Fine Browsers (Like Kristall) | Techrights

11:22 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Android_Leftovers.gmi

=> ↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Android_Leftovers.shtml
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11:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers

11:27 TR News; (NEW): Games: Steam, Distrobox, Heroic Games Launcher, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Games_Steam_Distrobox_Heroic_Games_Launcher_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Games_Steam_Distrobox_Heroic_Games_Launcher_and_More.gmi

=> ↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Games_Steam_Distrobox_Heroic_Games_Launcher_and_More.shtml
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11:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Steam, Distrobox, Heroic Games Launcher, and More

11:30 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/today_s_howtos.1.gmi

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11:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

11:31 TR News; The motherboard is defective and has NSA back doors. poor choice of processor in the year 2022 (we're not in the 90s anymore). https://linuxgizmos.com/fanless-mini-pc-features-up-to-4x-2-4gbe-lan-ports-and-elkhart-lake-processor/ | Source: Linux Gizmos

=> ↺ https://linuxgizmos.com/fanless-mini-pc-features-up-to-4x-2-4gbe-lan-ports-and-elkhart-lake-processor/

11:31 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/fanless-mini-pc-features-up-to-4x-2-4gbe-lan-ports-and-elkhart-lake-processor/ )

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11:33 TR News; "In this tutorial, we will discuss how to change user password in Linux using passwd command from commandline." https://ostechnix.com/change-password-linux/ | Source: OSTechNix

=> ↺ https://ostechnix.com/change-password-linux/

11:33 TR Bot; User Password In Linux - OSTechNix

11:35 TR News; Android/Linux Khadas Edge2 ultra thin SBC is powered by Rockchip RK3588S processor - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/13/khadas-edge2-ultra-thin-sbc-is-powered-by-rockchip-rk3588s-processor/

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11:35 TR Bot; Khadas Edge2 ultra thin SBC is powered by Rockchip RK3588S processor - CNX Software

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11:37 psydruid; > Does Haiku run on any actual hardware.

11:37 psydruid; > Or is it one of those "Toss this in a VM and it crashes a lot." things like ReactOS?

11:37 psydruid; I had it installed on a laptop for a year and everything minus the wifi worked pretty reliably, ReactOS barely runs on any hardware

11:38 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2022/09/12/1121999705/sex-education-school-kindergarten

=> ↺ https://www.npr.org/2022/09/12/1121999705/sex-education-school-kindergarten

11:38 TR Bot; Why sex education should start in kindergarten (hula hoops recommended) : NPR

11:38 DaemonFC; National Pedophile Radio

11:38 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^

11:39 DaemonFC; Bill Gates

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11:42 schestowitz[TR]; maybe they can 'normalise' this BS

11:42 schestowitz[TR]; with BillBC joining in

11:42 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/06/20/young-boys-and-the-express-stop-envelope/

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11:42 TR Bot; Bill and Melinda Gates Employee Took Photos of Young Boys at the Beach | Techrights

11:42 *loner is now known as mixling

11:42 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/ok-melinda/

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11:42 TR Bot; OK, Melinda | Techrights

11:42 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/gates-epstein-house.jpg

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11:42 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/gates-epstein.jpg

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11:43 schestowitz[TR]; bill zemlin: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/zemlin-go-away.gif

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11:44 TR News; "UMS streams a wide range of media formats with little or absolutely no configuration." https://www.tecmint.com/install-universal-media-server-ubuntu/ | Source: TecMint

=> ↺ https://www.tecmint.com/install-universal-media-server-ubuntu/

11:44 TR Bot; How to Install Universal Media Server in Ubuntu Linux

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11:51 schestowitz[TR]; ms peters wanted the same

11:51 schestowitz[TR]; to normalise pedophilia

11:51 schestowitz[TR]; but he didn't have the clout of bill

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11:53 TR News; http://techrights.org/2022/09/13/npr-kids/

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11:53 TR Bot; Why Does NPR, Funded by Bill Gates, Publish Such a Thing This Week? | Techrights

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11:56 TR News; Why Does NPR, Funded by Bill Gates, Publish Such a Thing This Week? | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/13/npr-kids/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/13/npr-kids/

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11:56 schestowitz[TR]; next up in NPR:

11:56 schestowitz[TR]; we should lower age of sexual consent to 14

11:57 TR News; "It has been a long and difficult journey to build a freedom- and privacy-respecting phone like the Librem 5" https://puri.sm/posts/thank-you-for-joining-us/ | Source: Purism

=> ↺ https://puri.sm/posts/thank-you-for-joining-us/

11:57 TR Bot; Thank You For Joining Us Purism

11:57 mixling; lower how? teenager intercourse among each other of same age isn't prohibited to my knowledge

11:58 TR News; Normal people: folks who say toddlers should be told about sex are sick perverts. NPR: Bill Gates pays us. We should give a platform to those "sick perverts".

11:58 mixling; anyhow, child abuse is distinct from pedophilia;

11:59 mixling; question, why is child abuse conflated with euphemist terminology?

noon, September 13

12:00 techuser; sexual child abuse < child abuse

12:00 mixling; i consider child abuse among the worst criminal offenses there is, any variant of it

12:01 techuser; depends

12:01 mixling; it doesn't, child abuse

12:01 techuser; what about killing a lot of humans, sometimes indirectly?

12:02 mixling; what about?

12:02 techuser; it is worse

12:03 techuser; I did appear at university chat. It turned out there is only one girl there. Some users started harassing her.

12:03 techuser; If sex is about harassment, it should be removed entirely

12:04 TR News; "SSH stands for Secure Shell and it is used widely as a means of accessing remote servers." https://vitux.com/ubuntu-ssh-key/ | Source: Vitux

=> ↺ https://vitux.com/ubuntu-ssh-key/

12:04 TR Bot; SSH Keys in Ubuntu - VITUX

12:06 TR News; "I recently experienced another interesting problem in the Linux startup sequence that has a circumventionnot a solution" https://opensource.com/article/22/9/swappiness-startup-linux | Source: OpenSource.com

=> ↺ https://opensource.com/article/22/9/swappiness-startup-linux

12:06 TR Bot; I troubleshoot swappiness and startup time on Linux | Opensource.com

12:06 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: that's terrible

12:06 schestowitz[TR]; on what basis was this harassment?

12:06 schestowitz[TR]; or of what nature?

12:06 TR News; "I'll walk you through where to download Hyperledger FireFly" https://opensource.com/article/22/9/blockchain-hyperledger-firefly | Source: OpenSource.com

=> ↺ https://opensource.com/article/22/9/blockchain-hyperledger-firefly

12:06 TR Bot; source blockchain development: Get started with Hyperledger FireFly | Opensource.com

12:07 techuser; they just want to have sex with her it seems

12:07 techuser; and sometimes ask weird questions

12:07 techuser; I treat such activity as harassment

12:08 techuser; sex is privacy violation

12:09 schestowitz[TR]; yeah

12:09 schestowitz[TR]; I saw that once in a GNOME event in manchester

12:09 schestowitz[TR]; they did this to the partner of the organiser

12:09 schestowitz[TR]; and to my wife

12:09 schestowitz[TR]; asking inappropriate questions

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12:14 TR News; Mississippi https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/12/jackson_mississippi_water_crisis_flood_treatment | Source: Democracy Now

=> ↺ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/12/jackson_mississippi_water_crisis_flood_treatment

12:14 TR Bot; Jacksons Water Crisis Comes After $90M Contract with Siemens to Overhaul System Ended Up a Disaster | Democracy Now!

12:15 TR News; Sell Buckingham Palace, pay people's gas bills. 'King' Charles can reside in his car. https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/12/queen_elizabeth_dead_british_colonialism_africa

=> ↺ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/12/queen_elizabeth_dead_british_colonialism_africa

12:15 TR Bot; Dismantle the Commonwealth: Queen Elizabeths Death Prompts Reckoning with Colonial Past in Africa | Democracy Now!

12:16 TR News; "Master of a Drone System" https://digit.site36.net/2022/09/12/german-air-force-in-afghanistan-and-mali-drone-operator-reports-on-his-severe-trauma/ | Source: Site36

=> ↺ https://digit.site36.net/2022/09/12/german-air-force-in-afghanistan-and-mali-drone-operator-reports-on-his-severe-trauma/

12:16 TR Bot; German Air Force in Afghanistan and Mali: Drone operator talks on his severe trauma Security Architectures in the EU

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12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

12:21 DaemonFC; The problem is that people like mjg59_ have re-defined sexual harassment to the point where the term doesn't man anything anymore.

12:21 DaemonFC; You could tell a woman "I like your shoes." or you could be Peter Bright. Same thing, right?

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12:23 schestowitz[TR]; in their eyes, Peter Brighht did nothing wrong

12:23 schestowitz[TR]; just fucking under 10s

12:23 schestowitz[TR]; no comment

12:23 schestowitz[TR]; no github pettiion

12:23 schestowitz[TR]; same for graveley strngling women

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; almost to death

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; while managing github stuff

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; nothing wrong, right?

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; no pettiion

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; not evvven a fuckin tweet!

12:24 DaemonFC; " Over the past 10 hours, Costco has sent me a total of 20 SMSes reminding me about my vaccination appointment that is still 14 hours away

12:24 DaemonFC; " - mjg59_

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; it would rattle the brigvades' maste

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; task:

12:24 DaemonFC; One for each CDC-recommended "booster".

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; check if mjg59_ ever posted ANYTHING about Gulag's Andy Rubin

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; ANYTHING

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; check

12:25 schestowitz[TR]; andry rubin: asks inferiors to give him blow jobs

12:25 schestowitz[TR]; rms: stares at people

12:25 DaemonFC; He doesn't shit on people who pay him.

12:25 schestowitz[TR]; guess which "jew" the twitter brigade went after

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12:26 TR News; "Nothing can justify the persistence of this fundamental abuse of human rights." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/12/50-million-people-are-trapped-modern-slavery-worldwide-report | Source: Common Dreams

=> ↺ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/12/50-million-people-are-trapped-modern-slavery-worldwide-report

12:26 TR Bot; 50 Million People Are Trapped in Modern Slavery Worldwide: Report

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12:26 schestowitz[TR]; coin-operated 'activists'

12:26 schestowitz[TR]; "start me up, Gulag!"

12:26 schestowitz[TR]; also check what mjg59_ wrote about gates

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; from@mjg59 "gates"

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; from:@mjg59 "gates"

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; I can't be bothered

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; see how he blasts gates

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; over epstein

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; or... NOT

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; like I said,

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; coin-operated!

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; like SJVN

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; the "coin-operated" zdnet 'journalist'

12:28 TR News; "fawning adulation of Queen Elizabeth in the United States" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/12/it-time-throw-monarchies-world-dustbin-history | Source: Common Dreams

=> ↺ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/12/it-time-throw-monarchies-world-dustbin-history

12:28 TR Bot; Opinion | It Is Time to Throw the Monarchies of the World Into the Dustbin of History | Chris Hedges

12:28 TR News; Liz Trump https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/liz-truss-a-precarious-prime-minister-for-a-precarious-country/ | Source: Counter Punch

=> ↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/liz-truss-a-precarious-prime-minister-for-a-precarious-country/

12:28 TR Bot; Truss: a Precarious Prime Minister for a Precarious Country - CounterPunch.org

12:29 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/sjvn-senior-moment/

=> http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/sjvn-senior-moment/

12:29 TR Bot; One Year Later Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols Libel Against Richard Stallman Remains Online and Uncorrected at ZDNet | Techrights

12:29 TR News; "Turkey is becoming a worldwide drone power" https://digit.site36.net/2022/09/12/cooperation-with-turkey-selenskyj-awards-medal-for-combat-drones/ | Source: Site36

=> ↺ https://digit.site36.net/2022/09/12/cooperation-with-turkey-selenskyj-awards-medal-for-combat-drones/

12:29 TR Bot; Cooperation with Turkey: Selenskyj awards medal for combat drones Security Architectures in the EU

12:30 TR News; "Its a space for open culture and cultural heritage practitioners, advocates, and enthusiasts to share resources" https://creativecommons.org/2022/09/12/members-share-their-experiences-with-the-cc-open-culture-platform/ | Source: Creative Commons

=> ↺ https://creativecommons.org/2022/09/12/members-share-their-experiences-with-the-cc-open-culture-platform/

12:30 TR Bot; Members Share Their Experiences with the CC Open Culture Platform - Creative Commons

12:30 schestowitz[TR]; activists like those

12:30 schestowitz[TR]; or sjvn

12:31 schestowitz[TR]; have a viginal hole at their back

12:31 schestowitz[TR]; near the spine

12:31 schestowitz[TR]; it says

12:31 schestowitz[TR]; "PLEASE INSERT COIN"

12:31 schestowitz[TR]; OIN

12:31 schestowitz[TR]; LF

12:31 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft

12:31 schestowitz[TR]; ICBM

12:31 schestowitz[TR]; insert coin

12:31 schestowitz[TR]; he will sing

12:31 schestowitz[TR]; pay $150,000 salaries

12:31 schestowitz[TR]; and they will work to cancel people like RMS who don't have a salary

12:31 schestowitz[TR]; to help distract from Bill Gates

12:31 schestowitz[TR]; and protect his Cayman Island assets

12:32 schestowitz[TR]; no shill deed goes unrewarded

12:32 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/headhunting-matthew-garrett/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/headhunting-matthew-garrett/

12:32 TR Bot; Microsoft is Trying to Hire (Read: Pay Salaries to) Matthew Garrett | Techrights

12:32 TR News; ">By the early 20th century, Paris commanded control over much of West and Central Africa." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/frances-influence-in-africa-faces-strains-from-locals-and-foreign-competitors/ | Source: Counter Punch

=> ↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/frances-influence-in-africa-faces-strains-from-locals-and-foreign-competitors/

12:32 TR Bot; Influence in Africa Faces Strains From Locals and Foreign Competitors - CounterPunch.org

12:32 TR News; The grizzly bears https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/conservation-groups-sue-to-protect-yellowstone-grizzly-bears-from-expanded-cattle-grazing/ | Source: Counter Punch

=> ↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/conservation-groups-sue-to-protect-yellowstone-grizzly-bears-from-expanded-cattle-grazing/

12:32 TR Bot; groups Sue to Protect Yellowstone Grizzly Bears From Expanded Cattle Grazing - CounterPunch.org

12:33 schestowitz[TR]; meanwhile some real activists get shit done

12:33 schestowitz[TR]; but they are tentatively painted with a target on their butt

12:33 schestowitz[TR]; by the coin-operated butt-chasing shills

12:33 schestowitz[TR]; waiting for dirt to pounce on or stockpiling some

12:33 schestowitz[TR]; like they did to RMS

12:34 TR News; Bolsonaro https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/bolsonaro-follows-trumps-script/ | Source: Counter Punch

=> ↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/bolsonaro-follows-trumps-script/

12:34 TR Bot; Follows Trumps Script - CounterPunch.org

12:34 TR News; "criminal justice system" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/dissent-calls-out-appeals-court-new-york-prosecutor-for-denying-a-prisoner-his-right-to-challenge-his-conviction/ | Source: Techdirt

=> ↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/dissent-calls-out-appeals-court-new-york-prosecutor-for-denying-a-prisoner-his-right-to-challenge-his-conviction/

12:34 TR Bot; Calls Out Appeals Court, New York Prosecutor For Denying A Prisoner His Right To Challenge His Conviction | Techdirt

12:36 TR News; "I mean, of course. On Friday Elon Musk terminated his Twitter purchase for the third time." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/musk-tries-tries-again-with-yet-another-argument-for-how-he-can-get-out-of-buying-twitter-mudges-severance-package/ | Source: Techdirt

=> ↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/musk-tries-tries-again-with-yet-another-argument-for-how-he-can-get-out-of-buying-twitter-mudges-severance-package/

12:36 TR Bot; Tries, Tries Again With Yet Another Argument For How He Can Get Out Of Buying Twitter: Mudges Severance Package | Techdirt

12:36 TR News; "The United States is already a global leader in traffic-related fatalities" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/the-extreme-weight-of-large-electric-vehicles-is-going-to-be-a-very-dangerous-problem/ | Source: Techdirt

=> ↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/the-extreme-weight-of-large-electric-vehicles-is-going-to-be-a-very-dangerous-problem/

12:36 TR Bot; Extreme Weight Of Large Electric Vehicles Is Going To Be A Very Dangerous Problem | Techdirt

12:38 TR News; Weapons Industry https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/12/weapons-industry-taxpayer-scam | Source: Common Dreams; NOT just "traditional" weapons, also electronic: http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/

=> ↺ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/12/weapons-industry-taxpayer-scam
=> http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/

12:38 TR Bot; Opinion | The Weapons Industry as a Taxpayer Scam | Julia Gledhill

12:38 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights

12:39 TR News; Ehrenreich https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/how-barbara-ehrenreich-exposed-the-positive-thinking-industry/ | Source: Counter Punch

=> ↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/how-barbara-ehrenreich-exposed-the-positive-thinking-industry/

12:39 TR Bot; Barbara Ehrenreich Exposed the Positive Thinking Industry - CounterPunch.org

12:39 TR News; Star Log 2022-09-13 01:00 AKDT (Fairbanks, AK, US) gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20220913-0.gmi

=> ↺ gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20220913-0.gmi

12:40 TR News; Bill Gates isn't a m------er. He's not into moms.

12:41 TR News; In truly democratic societies people like these are put behind bars for life http://techrights.org/2020/06/13/bill-gates-not-a-liberal/

=> http://techrights.org/2020/06/13/bill-gates-not-a-liberal/

12:41 TR Bot; Quit Calling Bill Gates a Liberal | Techrights

12:42 TR News; Re: Sneakernets gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-09-13-re-sneakernets.gmi "I feel like we're not talking about the same things, though. I guess I was pretty vague about my thoughts even though I tried."

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12:42 TR News; "On Free/Developed/Democratic etc Societies, Persecution, Criminals" gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-09-13-re-sneakernets.gmi

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12:43 TR News; Comparing Aldous Harding to Kate Bush gemini://gemini.susa.net/harding_vs_bush.gmi

=> ↺ gemini://gemini.susa.net/harding_vs_bush.gmi

12:53 TR News; Big Myth https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/12/the-big-myth-about-inequality-it-just-happened/ | Source: Counter Punch

=> ↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/12/the-big-myth-about-inequality-it-just-happened/

12:53 TR Bot; Big Myth About Inequality: It Just Happened! - CounterPunch.org

12:53 TR News; "This will also be a rare-old-time for paparazzi and the court correspondents of the tabloids" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/12/the-queen-is-dead/ | Source: Counter Punch

=> ↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/12/the-queen-is-dead/

12:53 TR Bot; Queen Is Dead - CounterPunch.org

12:53 TR News; Economic Inequality https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/12/how-economic-inequality-drives-climate-change/ | Source: Counter Punch

=> ↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/12/how-economic-inequality-drives-climate-change/

12:53 TR Bot; Economic Inequality Drives Climate Change - CounterPunch.org

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12:59 TR News; Sloganeering https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/12/sloganeering-suicide-prevention-the-r-u-ok-movement/ | Source: Counter Punch

=> ↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/12/sloganeering-suicide-prevention-the-r-u-ok-movement/

12:59 TR Bot; Suicide Prevention: the R U OK movement - CounterPunch.org

12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 49.98 k/sec., IPFS upstream 44.03 average k/sec., average swarm size 174.05

1 PM, September 13

13:01 schestowitz[TR]; christine is 71 https://fossforce.com/2022/09/monday-morning-how-a-command-prompt-and-edlin-made-me-a-computer-enthusiast/

=> ↺ https://fossforce.com/2022/09/monday-morning-how-a-command-prompt-and-edlin-made-me-a-computer-enthusiast/

13:01 TR Bot; Monday Morning: How a Command Prompt and Edlin Made Me a Computer Enthusiast - FOSS Force

13:01 schestowitz[TR]; "I didnt own a computer of my own until 1991, the year I turned 40"

13:01 TR News; Monday Morning: How a Command Prompt and Edlin Made Me a Computer Enthusiast - FOSS Force https://fossforce.com/2022/09/monday-morning-how-a-command-prompt-and-edlin-made-me-a-computer-enthusiast/ Source: Unicorn Media

=> ↺ https://fossforce.com/2022/09/monday-morning-how-a-command-prompt-and-edlin-made-me-a-computer-enthusiast/

13:02 MinceR; (cat) https://i.imgur.com/5hClWqP.jpeg

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13:07 TR News; RMS is non-conformist (never was); that has been weaponised by a whole bunch of losers who try to signal to evil, murderous corporations that they're conformist and willing to cross the "heretic"

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13:08 TR News; CoCs are pledges of allegiance to the murderous people whose behaviour must never be questioned

13:09 TR News; CoCs create classes of people (the "ENFORCER/S") who are invulnerable to the Rule of Law. They ARE the law. http://techrights.org/2016/04/08/battistelli-epo-scorecard/

=> http://techrights.org/2016/04/08/battistelli-epo-scorecard/

13:09 TR Bot; Busted Battistelli: EPO President Violating the EPOs Code of Conduct | Techrights

13:10 TR News; Code of Conduct (CoC) is a very old concept. It's an ENABLER OF CRIMES. http://techrights.org/2017/12/30/genesis-of-battistelli-code-of-conduct/

=> http://techrights.org/2017/12/30/genesis-of-battistelli-code-of-conduct/

13:10 TR Bot; Raw: How and Why the EPO Code of Conduct (CoC) Came About | Techrights

13:12 TR News; It's not at all a coincidence that CoCs are most vigorously promoted by those who are salaried by the most heinous criminals in the world. They're protecting the criminals from critics. The sad thing is, most of them don't realise the extent to which they're being used. It's NOT about protecting minorities but about protecting the powerful.

13:13 TR News; A society forced to condone the crimes of some -- e.g. "royals" -- is not a society based upon any concept like Rule of the Law, to say the least

13:14 TR News; Code of Conduct (CoC) as proposed by criminals of the highest order in Europe. They even used the term CoC like a decade ago. http://techrights.org/2017/12/30/genesis-of-battistelli-code-of-conduct/

=> http://techrights.org/2017/12/30/genesis-of-battistelli-code-of-conduct/

13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

13:20 TR News; "Qt for Android Automotive helps developers create visually stunning user interfaces and experiences for different in-car displays all with the same code base. Heres how." https://www.qt.io/blog/put-your-developers-in-the-driving-seat but they need to RE-liberate Qt :/

=> ↺ https://www.qt.io/blog/put-your-developers-in-the-driving-seat

13:20 TR Bot; Put your developers in the driving seat

13:21 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/today_s_howtos.2.gmi

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13:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

13:22 TR News; Microsoft-controlled bloat is a risk is it controls the Linux chain https://paulmck.livejournal.com/68136.html

=> ↺ https://paulmck.livejournal.com/68136.html

13:22 TR Bot; Kangrejos 2022: The Rust for Linux Workshop: paulmck LiveJournal

13:22 TR News; Vssue: an Open-source Git-based Commenting system for Vue projects https://medevel.com/vssue/ Source: Medevel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//medevel.com/vssue/

=> ↺ https://medevel.com/vssue/
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13:22 TR Bot; Vssue: an Open-source Git-based Commenting system for Vue projects

13:27 TR News; (NEW): Picamera2 Python camera library for Raspberry Pi leverages libcamera open-source framework http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Picamera2_Python_camera_library_for_Raspberry_Pi_leverages_libc.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Picamera2_Python_camera_library_for_Raspberry_Pi_leverages_libc.gmi

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13:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines Picamera2 Python camera library for Raspberry Pi leverages libcamera open-source framework

13:28 TR News; Jim Zemlin promotes virtual wallets https://linuxfoundation.org/press-release/linux-foundation-announces-intent-to-form-openwallet-foundation/ https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/linux-foundation-announces-openwallet-foundation-092123713.html wife's fraud: http://techrights.org/2022/08/30/zemlins-are-volatile/

=> ↺ https://linuxfoundation.org/press-release/linux-foundation-announces-intent-to-form-openwallet-foundation/
=> ↺ https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/linux-foundation-announces-openwallet-foundation-092123713.html
=> http://techrights.org/2022/08/30/zemlins-are-volatile/

13:28 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Announces an Intent to Form the OpenWallet Foundation - Linux Foundation

13:28 TR Bot; Linux Foundation announces the OpenWallet Foundation to develop interoperable digital wallets

13:28 TR Bot; After Defrauding People in New York Stock Exchange (Now Class Action for Securities Fraud) Jim Zemlins Wife Quits Bakkt to Dodge Liability | Techrights

13:28 TR News; 'Linux' Foundation: enabler of scams. greenwashing, openwashing... you name it... just stick the "LINUX" label on it.. for a FEE

13:33 TR News; Linuxwashing again by ICBM https://www.suse.com/c/security-sustainability-and-speed-introducing-the-ibm-linuxone-emperor-4/

=> ↺ https://www.suse.com/c/security-sustainability-and-speed-introducing-the-ibm-linuxone-emperor-4/

13:33 TR Bot; Sustainability and Speed: Introducing the IBM LinuxONE Emperor 4 | SUSE Communities

13:33 TR News; These are proprietary, PATENTED, and VERY expensive https://venturebeat.com/data-infrastructure/ibm-upgrades-linux-mainframe-boosting-availability-and-ai-performance/ ICBM PR

=> ↺ https://venturebeat.com/data-infrastructure/ibm-upgrades-linux-mainframe-boosting-availability-and-ai-performance/

13:33 TR Bot; upgrades Linux mainframe, boosting availability and AI performance | VentureBeat

13:34 TR News; (NEW): Linux Mint 21 Release Brings Reviewer a Welcome Reunion http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Linux_Mint_21_Release_Brings_Reviewer_a_Welcome_Reunion.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Linux_Mint_21_Release_Brings_Reviewer_a_Welcome_Reunion.gmi

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13:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Mint 21 Release Brings Reviewer a Welcome Reunion

13:34 TR News; In ICBM's lexicon "transformation" means vendor lock-in https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/9/digital-transformation-get-buy-in

=> ↺ https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/9/digital-transformation-get-buy-in

13:34 TR Bot; Digital transformation: How to get buy-in | The Enterprisers Project

13:37 TR News; NPR is trying to normalise what many parents would deem obscene (but not the Gates family) http://techrights.org/2022/09/13/npr-kids/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/09/13/npr-kids/

13:37 TR Bot; Why Does NPR, Funded by Bill Gates, Publish Such a Thing This Week? | Techrights

13:38 techuser; imho pedophilia will be normalized, be it good or bad

13:38 techuser; as a part of LGBT

13:39 schestowitz[TR]; is there any conenction?

13:40 techuser; "minor attracted person" as sexual orientation

13:40 TR News; (NEW): Fly-Pie: A Mouse-Centric GNOME Shell Menu Launcher for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Fly_Pie_A_Mouse_Centric_GNOME_Shell_Menu_Launcher_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Fly_Pie_A_Mouse_Centric_GNOME_Shell_Menu_Launcher_for_Linux.gmi

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13:40 TR Bot; Tux Machines Fly-Pie: A Mouse-Centric GNOME Shell Menu Launcher for Linux

13:41 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: never heard such a thing before

13:43 TR News; Mitchell Baker 'forgot' to mention his TEN YEARS in Salesforce, only mentions 5 years in some firm a long time before that. Mozilla = dishonest liars. They should change the logo to a snake in a circle. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/leadership/carlos-torres-mozillas-new-clo/

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13:43 TR Bot; Announcing Carlos Torres, Mozillas new Chief Legal Officer

13:45 TR News; "A strange 1797 text with literary ambitions, written in Dexters personal eye dialect and entirely devoid of punctuation." https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/dexter-pickle/

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13:45 TR Bot; Trimalchio in Newburyport: Timothy Dexters A Pickle for the Knowing Ones (1848) The Public Domain Review

13:46 TR News; [PATCH 0/5] platform/x86: dell: Add new dell-wmi-ddv driver - Armin Wolf https://lore.kernel.org/platform-driver-x86/20220912125342.7395-1-W_Armin@gmx.de/

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13:46 TR Bot; [PATCH 0/5] platform/x86: dell: Add new dell-wmi-ddv driver - Armin Wolf

13:48 *horseface (~horseface@rwq434ydswn2i.irc) has joined #techrights

13:50 TR News; Clickfraud SPAMNil Bhartiya now does some spammy "episodes" (PR spam) about IaC. Yes, "IaC" (yuck). How people feel about his online activities, which are in breach of terms of service and are funded by the Zemlins. http://techrights.org/2022/08/30/zemlins-are-volatile/ http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/lf-defrauding-clients/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/08/30/zemlins-are-volatile/
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13:50 TR Bot; New Lows: Linux Foundation Defrauding Clients | Techrights

13:50 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi

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13:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers

13:54 *horseface_ (~horseface@faf7xvyvnx766.irc) has joined #techrights

13:54 TR News; (NEW): Red Hat / IBM News and Noise (PR) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Red_Hat_IBM_News_and_Noise_PR.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Red_Hat_IBM_News_and_Noise_PR.gmi IBM shows young women in charge of mainframes http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Sexism

=> ↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Red_Hat_IBM_News_and_Noise_PR.shtml
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13:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines Red Hat / IBM News and Noise (PR)

13:54 TR Bot; IBM - Techrights

13:55 starstreak; techuser, thats right wing propaganda

13:55 *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

13:55 TR News; Mozilla is even less trustworthy than the CAs it forces all Web sites to use/adopt.

13:55 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: yeah

13:55 starstreak; the LGBTQ2+ want nothing to do with pedophiles

13:55 schestowitz[TR]; from what I can gather

13:56 schestowitz[TR]; zoophilia and pedophilia are often linked to homosexuality based on nothing

13:59 starstreak; its horrible that people do that

13:59 TR News; Malaysia's Venom GNU/Linux 4.0 is released https://venomlinux.org/ they need to DELETE Github (Microsoft's proprietary attack on us)

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13:59 TR Bot; Venom Linux

13:59 schestowitz[TR]; it starts with,

13:59 schestowitz[TR]; "they brainwash the kids"

13:59 schestowitz[TR]; and then

2 PM, September 13

14:00 schestowitz[TR]; "they want the kids"

14:00 TR News; THIS is what Linux NEEDS! | Kubuntu Focus 22.04 Impressions - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NxxYiiltRdc | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/NxxYiiltRdc

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14:00 TR Bot; THIS is what Linux NEEDS! | Kubuntu Focus 22.04 Impressions - Invidious

14:00 schestowitz[TR]; something something kids

14:00 schestowitz[TR]; "argument won!"

14:01 starstreak; <schestowitz[TR]> something something kids <- pretty much

14:02 TR News; (NEW): Videos: Kubuntu Focus 22.04, Destination Linux, and Late Night Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Videos_Kubuntu_Focus_22_04_Destination_Linux_and_Late_Night_Lin.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Videos_Kubuntu_Focus_22_04_Destination_Linux_and_Late_Night_Lin.gmi

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14:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos: Kubuntu Focus 22.04, Destination Linux, and Late Night Linux

14:02 schestowitz[TR]; that also creates a straw man that helps protect ACTUAL pedophiles

14:09 TR News; This might creep into Linux soon: "TrenchBoot is meant to be a universal framework to enable building integrity in the launch process of systems. To relate to real world usage, it is good to have a set of use cases that explain a subset of situations where TrenchBoot is applicable and how it would work in those situations." Backed by CIA Oracle :/ https://trenchboot.org/documentation/UseCases/

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14:09 TR Bot; UseCases - TrenchBoot

14:10 TR News; The Way Forward for K8s Security: Eliminate Standing Privileges - Container Journal https://containerjournal.com/features/the-way-forward-for-k8s-security-eliminate-standing-privileges/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//containerjournal.com/features/the-way-forward-for-k8s-security-eliminate-standing-privileges/

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14:10 TR Bot; The Way Forward for K8s Security: Eliminate Standing Privileges - Container Journal

14:10 TR News; (NEW): Simon Boaks SB116 is a TI Programmer-inspired DIY calculator http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Simon_Boak_s_SB116_is_a_TI_Programmer_inspired_DIY_calculator.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Simon_Boak_s_SB116_is_a_TI_Programmer_inspired_DIY_calculator.gmi

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14:10 TR Bot; Tux Machines Simon Boaks SB116 is a TI Programmer-inspired DIY calculator

14:12 TR News; Charmed Kubeflow 1.6: whats new? | Ubuntu https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/08/Kubeflow_1_6.shtml

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14:12 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kubeflow 1.6 (UPDATED)

14:15 TR News; This is a marketing lie: "96% of organizations either using or evaluating Kubernetes"... what organizations? Who gets counted? Fortune 500? And where? https://www.suse.com/c/suse-rancher-and-komodor-continuous-kubernetes-reliability/

=> ↺ https://www.suse.com/c/suse-rancher-and-komodor-continuous-kubernetes-reliability/

14:15 TR Bot; Rancher and Komodor - Continuous Kubernetes Reliability | SUSE Communities

14:15 TR News; (UPDATED): Kubeflow 1.6 (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/08/Kubeflow_1_6.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/08/Kubeflow_1_6.gmi

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14:15 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kubeflow 1.6 (UPDATED)

14:18 TR News; "They want the ISP to take down misbehaving / spamming actors on their network. One could theoretically pay them to remove an ASN block for.. $485. But once a single IP address spams again, they'll add it back to their block list and keep the money." https://cendyne.dev/posts/2022-02-26-moving-off-self-hosted-email.html

=> ↺ https://cendyne.dev/posts/2022-02-26-moving-off-self-hosted-email.html

14:18 TR Bot; Moving off self hosted email

14:19 TR News; "The money was laundered through the Tornado Cash mixer." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/fbi-seizes-stolen-cryptocurrencies.html

=> ↺ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/fbi-seizes-stolen-cryptocurrencies.html

14:19 TR Bot; Seizes Stolen Cryptocurrencies - Schneier on Security

14:19 TR News; (NEW): Peazip: A Modern File Manager and Archive Tool for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Peazip_A_Modern_File_Manager_and_Archive_Tool_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Peazip_A_Modern_File_Manager_and_Archive_Tool_for_Linux.gmi

=> ↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Peazip_A_Modern_File_Manager_and_Archive_Tool_for_Linux.shtml
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14:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines Peazip: A Modern File Manager and Archive Tool for Linux

14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

14:20 TR News; Gitnet hberge vos pages statiques Gitnet hberge vos pages statiques

14:21 TR News; "The game involves stepping on a dancing stage with up, down, left and right panels similar to DanceDance Revolution, but it also features a center panel, bringing the total number of inputs per side to five." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202209/20220913-stepmaniax.gmi

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14:24 TR News; "Sooooooo this was something that happened." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/court-dumps-trump-lawsuit-claiming-hillary-clinton-rigged-the-2016-election-he-actually-won/ | Source: Techdirt

=> ↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/court-dumps-trump-lawsuit-claiming-hillary-clinton-rigged-the-2016-election-he-actually-won/

14:24 TR Bot; Dumps Trump Lawsuit Claiming Hillary Clinton Rigged The 2016 Election He Actually Won | Techdirt

14:24 TR News; "Hany Farid is a computer science professor at Berkeley. Here he is insisting that his students should all delete Facebook and YouTube" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/fearmongering-cs-professor-insists-that-californias-design-code-is-nothing-to-worry-about-hes-wrong/ | Source: Techdirt

=> ↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/fearmongering-cs-professor-insists-that-californias-design-code-is-nothing-to-worry-about-hes-wrong/

14:24 TR Bot; CS Professor Insists That Californias Design Code Is Nothing To Worry About. Hes Wrong | Techdirt

14:25 TR News; "To be clear, the shift from traditional cable television to streaming TV has been a very good thing." No, not quite. DRM and "you own nothing" is NOT progress. Cannot even make COPIES (no VCR) https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/youre-living-in-the-true-golden-age-of-television-enjoy-it-because-its-about-to-end/ | Source: Techdirt

=> ↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/youre-living-in-the-true-golden-age-of-television-enjoy-it-because-its-about-to-end/

14:25 TR Bot; Living In The True Golden Age Of Television. Enjoy It, Because Its About To End. | Techdirt

14:26 MinceR; https://i.ibb.co/crymYRq/IMG-20220913-040447-009.jpg

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14:28 TR News; Social control media is toxic crap. We should collectively abandon it to solve this issue. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/eff-asks-ninth-circuit-to-toss-two-stupid-lawsuits-claiming-federal-government-is-moderating-social-media-users/ | Source: Techdirt

=> ↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/eff-asks-ninth-circuit-to-toss-two-stupid-lawsuits-claiming-federal-government-is-moderating-social-media-users/

14:28 TR Bot; Asks Ninth Circuit To Toss Two Stupid Lawsuits Claiming Federal Government Is Moderating Social Media Users | Techdirt

14:29 XRevan86; MinceR: "Ye didn't but the remote e-voting system did"

14:30 TR News; "'King' Charles III has had an unusually protracted apprenticeship." https://www.thenation.com/article/world/king-charles-monarchy-adaptable/ | Source: The Nation

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14:30 TR Bot; God Save Us From the King | The Nation

14:31 TR News; DNC takes bribes too. The Bill Gates-bribed publishers want you to think it's a "right-wing" things and ignore the vastly bigger corruption by Gates https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/dnc-debate-ban-dark-money/ | Source: The Nation

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14:31 TR Bot; The DNC Moves to Block Debate on Dark Money, but We Wont Quit | The Nation

14:33 TR News; "major chunk of federal student debt" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/12/canceling-all-student-debt-would-cost-about-much-pentagons-f-35-boondoggle | Source: Common Dreams

=> ↺ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/12/canceling-all-student-debt-would-cost-about-much-pentagons-f-35-boondoggle

14:33 TR Bot; Opinion | Canceling All Student Debt Would Cost About as Much as The Pentagon's F-35 Boondoggle | Ashik Siddique

14:33 TR News; "Many workers remain unsatisfied with the compromise proposed last month by President Joe Biden's appointed arbitrators" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/12/workers-are-angry-looming-us-railroad-strike-puts-pressure-biden | Source: Common Dreams

=> ↺ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/12/workers-are-angry-looming-us-railroad-strike-puts-pressure-biden

14:33 TR Bot; 'Workers Are Angry': Looming US Railroad Strike Puts Pressure on Biden

14:34 TR News; "Astonishingly, citizen leaders for years have been marginalized to their and the Democratic politicians disadvantage." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/12/democrats-to-win-in-november-listen-to-the-messages-of-citizen-groups/ | Source: Counter Punch

=> ↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/12/democrats-to-win-in-november-listen-to-the-messages-of-citizen-groups/

14:34 TR Bot; To Win in November Listen to the Messages of Citizen Groups - CounterPunch.org

14:36 TR News; UK: from "eat or heat" to "FUNERAL AND CORONATION"

14:42 TR News; More inflation, except for the rich, who exploited that for more land grab https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/12/inflation-eases-its-time-fed-pause-rate-hikes | Source: Common Dreams

=> ↺ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/12/inflation-eases-its-time-fed-pause-rate-hikes

14:42 TR Bot; Opinion | As Inflation Eases, It's Time for Fed to Pause on Rate Hikes | Joseph Stiglitz

14:42 TR News; "Union-busting is disgusting" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/12/disgusting-starbucks-help-its-workers-student-debt-unless-theyre-union | Source: Common Dreams

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14:42 TR Bot; 'Disgusting': Starbucks to Help Its Workers With Student DebtUnless They're in a Union

14:43 TR News; "If the Legislature were to be successful in Moore v. Harper, it could threaten the state court's ability to provide this crucial check on the legislative branch." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/12/experts-warn-supreme-court-supporting-dangerous-gop-legal-theory-could-destroy-us | Source: Common Dreams

=> ↺ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/12/experts-warn-supreme-court-supporting-dangerous-gop-legal-theory-could-destroy-us

14:43 TR Bot; Experts Warn Supreme Court Supporting 'Dangerous' GOP Legal Theory Could Destroy US Democracy

14:44 TR News; TechnoMetrica Institute of Policy and Politics (TIPP) https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/12/young-americans-approval-biden-soars-after-he-announces-student-debt-cancellation | Source: Common Dreams

=> ↺ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/12/young-americans-approval-biden-soars-after-he-announces-student-debt-cancellation

14:44 TR Bot; Young Americans' Approval of Biden Soars After He Announces Student Debt Cancellation

14:44 TR News; FSB https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/12/fsb-stages-murder-of-two-russian-occupation-officials | Source: Meduza

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14:44 TR Bot; NO TITLE

14:45 TR News; "Nearly two dozen municipal deputies in Moscow and St. Petersburg have signed a petition demanding Vladimir Putins resignation" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/12/municipal-deputies-in-moscow-and-st-petersburg-demand-putin-s-resignation | Source: Meduza

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14:45 TR Bot; NO TITLE

14:45 TR News; "police are checking one of Ksenia Sobchak's channels for a violation of the law" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/12/ksenia-sobchak-allegedly-being-checked-for-violation-of-gay-propaganda-law | Source: Meduza

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14:45 TR Bot; NO TITLE

14:46 TR News; Freedom of Information, Hungary under Orban's fascism/fideath https://telex.hu/english/2022/09/12/hungarian-figure-skater-vivien-papp-to-compete-for-another-country-as-too-many-russian-skaters-are-added-to-hungarys-team | Source: Telex (Hungary)

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14:46 TR Bot; Telex: Hungarian figure skater Vivien Papp to compete for another country as too many Russian skaters added to Hungarys team

14:47 TR News; "We publish regular reports about what we have been able to do thanks to our readers support." https://telex.hu/english/2022/09/12/how-strong-is-telex-what-have-we-achieved-so-far | Source: Telex (Hungary)

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14:47 TR Bot; Telex: How strong is Telex? What have we achieved so far?

14:48 TR News; The crime is the WAR, not CONDEMNING the war https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/12/multiple-russian-voters-charged-with-discrediting-the-army-after-writing-anti-war-slogans-on-ballots | Source: Meduza

=> ↺ https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/12/multiple-russian-voters-charged-with-discrediting-the-army-after-writing-anti-war-slogans-on-ballots

14:48 TR Bot; NO TITLE

14:54 TR News; "The European Astro Pi Challenge is back for another year" https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/the-european-astro-pi-challenge-is-back-for-2022-23/ | Source: Raspberry Pi

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14:54 TR Bot; The European Astro Pi Challenge is back for 2022/23 - Raspberry Pi

14:55 TR News; Texas https://thedissenter.org/us-labor-department-texas-newspaper-fire-worker/ | Source: The Dissenter

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14:55 TR Bot; Reporter Allegedly Fired For Complaining About Bugs

14:56 TR News; "Contractors Cash in as Congress Adds Billions to the Pentagon Budget." https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/12/spending-unlimited/ | Source: Scheerpost http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/

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14:56 TR Bot; Unlimited scheerpost.com

14:56 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights

14:56 TR News; "Economist Dr. Richard Wolff joins Lowkey where he exposes ways economic policy can be a code term used by the political establishment for class war" https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/12/richard-wolff-sanctions-against-russia-inflation-and-class-war/ | Source: Scheerpost

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14:56 TR Bot; Wolff: Sanctions Against Russia, Inflation and Class War scheerpost.com

14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 68.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 164.58

3 PM, September 13

15:02 TR News; "Betsy Gomez is coordinator for the Banned Books Week Coalition." https://www.projectcensored.org/banned-books-week-2022/ | Source: Project Censored

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15:02 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/banned-books-week-2022/ )

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15:03 TR News; Long besieged by Famous Criminal Bill Gates https://truthout.org/articles/seattle-teachers-strike-for-smaller-classes-higher-pay-and-special-ed-support/ | Source: TruthOut

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15:03 TR Bot; Seattle Teachers Strike for Smaller Classes, Higher Pay and Special Ed Support

15:04 TR News; SCOTUS history https://truthout.org/articles/the-supreme-court-wont-save-us-it-was-founded-to-defend-white-supremacy/ | Source: TruthOut

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15:04 TR Bot; The Supreme Court Wont Save Us -- It Was Founded to Defend White Supremacy

15:05 TR News; Oregon https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/12/under-oregon-skies/ | Source: Counter Punch

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15:05 TR Bot; Oregon Skies - CounterPunch.org

15:05 TR News; Jacksons privatisation begets health crisis https://truthout.org/video/corporate-involvement-in-jacksons-infrastructure-set-stage-for-its-water-crisis/ | Source: TruthOut

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15:05 TR Bot; Corporate Involvement in Jackson's Infrastructure Set Stage for Its Water Crisis

15:06 TR News; The nurses want to do their job, not be corporate shills https://truthout.org/articles/15000-minnesota-nurses-wage-largest-private-sector-nurses-strike-in-us-history/ | Source: TruthOut

=> ↺ https://truthout.org/articles/15000-minnesota-nurses-wage-largest-private-sector-nurses-strike-in-us-history/

15:06 TR Bot; 15,000 Minnesota Nurses Wage Largest Private Sector Nurses Strike in US History

15:08 TR News; Chris Hedges: Monarchs Belong in the Dustbin of History https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/12/chris-hedges-monarchs-belong-in-the-dustbin-of-history/ | Source: Scheerpost

=> ↺ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/12/chris-hedges-monarchs-belong-in-the-dustbin-of-history/

15:08 TR Bot; Hedges: Monarchs Belong in the Dustbin of History scheerpost.com

15:09 TR News; Apple pandering to idiots and EFF pandering to Apple in "Bay Area"; EFF become a hipsters' cargo cult (ALL these devices spy a lot, but that does not bother EFF) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/effs-cover-your-tracks-will-detect-your-use-ios-16s-lockdown-mode | Source: EFF

=> ↺ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/effs-cover-your-tracks-will-detect-your-use-ios-16s-lockdown-mode

15:09 TR Bot; EFFs Cover Your Tracks Will Detect Your Use of iOS 16s Lockdown Mode | Electronic Frontier Foundation

15:11 TR News; CNC https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/testing-an-inexpensive-cnc-spindle/ | Source: Hackaday

=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/testing-an-inexpensive-cnc-spindle/

15:11 TR Bot; An Inexpensive CNC Spindle | Hackaday

15:12 TR News; "Audiophiles will go to such extents to optimize the quality of their audio chain that they sometimes defy parody." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/equalize-your-listening-with-hifiscan/ | Source: Hackaday

=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/equalize-your-listening-with-hifiscan/

15:12 TR Bot; Your Listening With HiFiScan | Hackaday

15:12 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/254981

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15:12 TR Bot; AFU counteroffensive update: 6,000 km of liberated territories, blackouts in Kharkiv, losses of elite Russian forces

15:12 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/12/armenian-mod-reports-azerbaijani-shelling-of-goris-and-jermuk-baku-claims-responding-to-sabotage-news "Armenian MoD reports Azerbaijani shelling of Goris and Jermuk, Baku claims 'responding to sabotage"

=> ↺ https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/12/armenian-mod-reports-azerbaijani-shelling-of-goris-and-jermuk-baku-claims-responding-to-sabotage-news

15:12 TR Bot; .

15:12 TR News; Mississippi Privatisation/Privateering https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/12/mark-fiore-exceptions-to-american-exceptionalism/ | Source: Scheerpost

=> ↺ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/12/mark-fiore-exceptions-to-american-exceptionalism/

15:12 TR Bot; Fiore: Exceptions to American Exceptionalism scheerpost.com

15:12 schestowitz[TR]; what makes them "elite"?

15:13 schestowitz[TR]; better uniform?

15:13 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/13/ukraines-armed-forces-claim-to-have-shot-down-russia-purchased-iranian-drone-shahed-136-for-the-first-time-news "Ukraines Armed Forces claim to have shot down Russia-purchased Iranian drone Shahed-136 for the first time"

=> ↺ https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/13/ukraines-armed-forces-claim-to-have-shot-down-russia-purchased-iranian-drone-shahed-136-for-the-first-time-news

15:13 TR Bot; .

15:13 schestowitz[TR]; Russian TV: it didn't happen

15:14 schestowitz[TR]; it was a NATO machine gun that took down the pla... drone

15:14 schestowitz[TR]; loner: "according to Russian media.."

15:14 TR News; Arduino Nano https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/arduino-nano-powers-reverse-polish-notation-calculator/ | Source: Hackaday

=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/arduino-nano-powers-reverse-polish-notation-calculator/

15:14 TR Bot; Nano Powers Reverse Polish Notation Calculator | Hackaday

15:15 XRevan86; schestowitz: Losses of NATO elite forces

15:15 TR News; "Git is a wonderful tool that can multiply your projects impact, or make your project easier to manage by an order of magnitude." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/13/with-a-little-heat-printed-parts-handle-vacuum-duty/ | Source: Hackaday

=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/13/with-a-little-heat-printed-parts-handle-vacuum-duty/

15:15 TR Bot; A Little Heat, Printed Parts Handle Vacuum Duty | Hackaday

15:15 XRevan86; schestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Guards_Tank_Army

=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Guards_Tank_Army

15:15 TR Bot; 1st Guards Tank Army - Wikipedia

15:16 XRevan86; It's wrecked.

15:17 schestowitz[TR]; many mamas will cry

15:17 schestowitz[TR]; putin won't step down

15:18 schestowitz[TR]; Putin's ego fell off https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/13/heavy-losses-for-ukraine-the-feats-of-russian-soldiers-and-fake-news-from-kyiv | Source: Meduza

=> ↺ https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/13/heavy-losses-for-ukraine-the-feats-of-russian-soldiers-and-fake-news-from-kyiv

15:18 TR Bot; NO TITLE

15:18 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/255001

=> ↺ https://theins.press/en/news/255001

15:18 TR Bot; Istories: Moscow region teachers asked for donations to buy underpants and socks for Russian soldiers

15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

15:22 TR News; The Big Myth About Inequality https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/12/the-big-myth-about-inequality-it-just-happened/ | Source: Scheerpost

=> ↺ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/12/the-big-myth-about-inequality-it-just-happened/

15:22 TR Bot; Big Myth About Inequality: It Just Happened! scheerpost.com

15:24 TR News; Git https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/git-intro-for-hardware-hackers/ | Source: Hackaday

=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/git-intro-for-hardware-hackers/

15:24 TR Bot; Intro For Hardware Hackers | Hackaday

15:24 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: sounds like The Onion

15:24 schestowitz[TR]; when they have their socks blown off

15:25 TR News; ICBM, the OTHER dinosaur that lives on by grifting (taking from taxpayers) https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/the-hunt-for-a-rare-version-of-ibms-os-2/ | Source: Hackaday

=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/the-hunt-for-a-rare-version-of-ibms-os-2/

15:25 TR Bot; Hunt For A Rare Version Of IBMs OS/2 | Hackaday

15:26 TR News; Labor Activists https://truthout.org/articles/labor-activists-senate-candidates-should-support-pro-act-or-get-out-of-congress/ | Source: TruthOut

=> ↺ https://truthout.org/articles/labor-activists-senate-candidates-should-support-pro-act-or-get-out-of-congress/

15:26 TR Bot; Labor Activists: Senate Candidates Should Support PRO Act or Get Out of Congress

15:27 TR News; "Even if youre just making a brief hop over the Krmn line to gain a few minutes of weightlessness, getting to space is hard." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/blue-origin-loses-rocket-gains-abort-system-test/ | Source: Hackaday

=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/12/blue-origin-loses-rocket-gains-abort-system-test/

15:27 TR Bot; Origin Loses Rocket, Gains Abort System Test | Hackaday

15:27 TR News; "Additional research demonstrates that pleasant music can reduce activity in the brains amygdala" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/stick-to-your-guns-no-stick-to-your-songs/ | Source: Counter Punch

=> ↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/13/stick-to-your-guns-no-stick-to-your-songs/

15:27 TR Bot; to Your Guns? No, Stick to Your Songs - CounterPunch.org

15:28 TR News; "Well start off with a few minutes talking about CC and some current topics and then open the floor for anything youd like to chat about" https://creativecommons.org/2022/09/12/open-office-hours-with-ccs-legal-team/ | Source: Creative Commons

=> ↺ https://creativecommons.org/2022/09/12/open-office-hours-with-ccs-legal-team/

15:28 TR Bot; Open Office Hours with CC's Legal Team - Creative Commons

15:38 TR News;

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15:38 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Programming_Leftovers.gmi

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15:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers

15:42 TR News; (NEW): Security and Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Security_and_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Security_and_Leftovers.gmi

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15:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security and Leftovers

15:45 TR News; Links 13/09/2022: LinuxOne Emperor 4 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/13/linuxone-emperor-4/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/13/linuxone-emperor-4/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/09/13/linuxone-emperor-4/
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15:45 TR Bot; Links 13/09/2022: LinuxOne Emperor 4 | Techrights

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15:52 TR News; BDIRSTU Wordo: TABOR gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-09-13.gmi

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4 PM, September 13

16:05 TR News; The founders of EFF care about the MISSION of EFF. The people currently in charge, however, seem to care only about money they can raise by milking to brand. Also compare Torvalds to Zemlin.

16:12 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/13/crimean-restaurant-shut-down-for-review-after-famous-ukrainian-song-was-played-at-wedding-news "Crimean restaurant shut down for review after famous Ukrainian song was played at wedding"

=> ↺ https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/13/crimean-restaurant-shut-down-for-review-after-famous-ukrainian-song-was-played-at-wedding-news

16:12 TR Bot; .

16:13 XRevan86; https://independent.co.uk/news/b2166358.html

=> ↺ https://independent.co.uk/news/b2166358.html

16:13 TR Bot; President: Kazakhstan's capital will again be called Astana | The Independent

16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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16:57 TR News; Steam Decks Huge Booth at the Tokyo Games Show 2022: First Look and Line-Up Announced - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/steam-decks-booth-at-the-tgs2022-first-look-and-line-up-announced/ Source: Boiling Steam | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boilingsteam.com/steam-decks-booth-at-the-tgs2022-first-look-and-line-up-announced/

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16:57 TR Bot; Steam Deck's Huge Booth at the Tokyo Games Show 2022: First Look and Line-Up Announced - Boiling Steam

16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.80 k/sec., IPFS upstream 41.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 180.38

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17:01 XRevan86; https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1569712907604082688

=> ↺ https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1569712907604082688

17:01 TR Bot; Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "As the Kremlin claims not to be considering nationwide mobilization, multiple experts and pundits on state TV admit that it is needed, but would be next to impossible to implement. Here is one example:"|nitter.it

17:02 TR News; Now come the shallow, preplanned and prepaid puff pieces https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/12/Facebook_Openwashing_via_the_Linux_Foundation.shtml

=> ↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/12/Facebook_Openwashing_via_the_Linux_Foundation.shtml

17:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines Facebook Openwashing via the Linux Foundation (UPDATED)

17:03 TR News; (NEW): Fedora Linux 37 Beta Released with GNOME 43, Official Raspberry Pi 4 Support http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Fedora_Linux_37_Beta_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Fedora_Linux_37_Beta_Released.gmi

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17:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines Fedora Linux 37 Beta Released with GNOME 43, Official Raspberry Pi 4 Support

17:06 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> christine is 71 <- good

17:06 highest_cubist_thrills; i wont keep my fingers crossed, the devil takes care of his own

17:08 TR News; "If you ever posted a question to our Support Forum, you may be familiar with a contributor named FredMcD. Fred was one of the most active contributors in Mozilla Support, and for many years remains one of our core contributors." https://blog.mozilla.org/sumo/2022/09/12/tribute-to-fredmcd/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Mozilla

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17:08 TR Bot; Tribute to FredMcD The Mozilla Support Blog

17:08 TR Bot; Mozilla - Techrights

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17:10 TR News; Rant: Phoronix keeps linking to Microsoft GitHub for projects that are only MIRRORED there. Why not link to the ORIGINAL???

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17:12 TR News; ...And today's stories in Phoronix have no actual substance. It's just "there was this presentation", this was this git commit. All articles combined today attracted just 10 comments. To be fair, new IS slow.

17:14 TR News; Dedicate your time and devote your life to Firefox users, get a tribute page... only when you die: https://blog.mozilla.org/sumo/2022/09/12/tribute-to-fredmcd/ destroy Mozilla for Gulag Inc. (Baker), deposit $15,000,000 in the bank while firing many hundreds of engineers

=> ↺ https://blog.mozilla.org/sumo/2022/09/12/tribute-to-fredmcd/

17:17 TR News; LibreOffice has become very German/Italian and OSI has become increasingly Italian. Both badmouth the FSF. This clique is not trustworthy and has resorted to collective punishment against all Russians. How do you say "Drain the swamp" in Italian?

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17:18 TR News; OSI has become a PISA Microsoft. get it? http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-budget-for-proprietary-software-monopoly/

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17:18 TR Bot; In the Latest OSI Tax Filing (From the IRS), Filed 13 Months Ago, Only 4% of the Revenue Comes From Members (People, Not Corporations) and $252,702 Goes to Microsoft Projects (Propping Up Proprietary Software Monopoly) | Techrights

17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

17:22 TR News; How to Create a Calendar Server With Baikal https://www.maketecheasier.com/create-calendar-server-baikal/

=> ↺ https://www.maketecheasier.com/create-calendar-server-baikal/

17:22 TR Bot; How to Create a Calendar Server With Baikal - Make Tech Easier

17:23 TR News; xkcd: What If? 2 Flowchart https://xkcd.com/2672/

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17:23 TR Bot; What If? 2 Flowchart

17:29 TR News; Enterprise Linux Security Episode 41 - Important CISO Focus Areas - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gLDQBIzkeYE | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/gLDQBIzkeYE

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17:29 TR Bot; Enterprise Linux Security Episode 41 - Important CISO Focus Areas - Invidious

17:29 TR News; Testing the CalDigit TS4 Thundebolt Dock on Linux (Quick Review) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0GGYs8uLIJ4 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/0GGYs8uLIJ4

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17:29 TR Bot; Testing the CalDigit TS4 Thundebolt Dock on Linux (Quick Review) - Invidious

17:30 TR News; Linuxfx 11.2.22.04.2 overview | Fast, stable and very safe - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=S_LyvChIdlA | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/S_LyvChIdlA

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17:30 TR Bot; Linuxfx 11.2.22.04.2 overview | Fast, stable and very safe - Invidious

17:31 TR News; Terra Ventura | Linux Game - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=n1whuVJBRCs | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/n1whuVJBRCs

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17:31 TR Bot; Terra Ventura | Linux Game - Invidious

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17:35 MinceR; 13 152913 < XRevan86> MinceR: "Ye didn't but the remote e-voting system did"

17:35 MinceR; often they don't even pretend that much

17:44 TR News; Red Hat failing to acknowledge a lot of its staff, managers included, is fleeing https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-red-hat-approaching-future-work

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17:44 TR Bot; How Red Hat is approaching the future of work

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17:55 geert; i do get to consider it sad how many peeps rather seem to want to attack gnu than try help it

17:56 MinceR; "can anyone help you?"

17:57 geert; MinceR :)

17:57 geert; still struggling with what you call failfox?

17:58 geert; some just try to compete man, and yea, sloppy imperfect descisions are made there in the dev path

17:58 MinceR; no, i used failfox very little this year

17:58 geert; what would you actually consider better browser then?

17:58 MinceR; failfox used to be the best damn web browser there is

17:59 MinceR; then they decided to toss out the old API for extensions, copy the chrome GUI and then they tried to force poetteringaudio on users

17:59 geert; decisions* sorry i should try more to improve my english application

17:59 MinceR; and now it's an inferior clone of chrome

17:59 MinceR; as a "modern" browser, i prefer chromium, and to that i prefer brave

17:59 geert; what about ungoogled chrome?

17:59 MinceR; for more lightweight stuff, there's links and linkx

6 PM, September 13

18:00 MinceR; i don't know ungoogled chromium, i don't think my OS-es offer it very much

18:00 geert; and i think you go a bit far saying firefox would have become nothing but a clone of chrome

18:00 TR News; Fedora 37 Beta links https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/12/Fedora_Beta_Clown_Computing_and_OpenShift.shtml

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18:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines Fedora Beta, Clown Computing, and OpenShift

18:00 MinceR; maybe openbsd's patches to chromium do something similar, i don't know

18:00 geert; its not what it was, but its wholly different than a clone of chrome i guess

18:00 MinceR; no, i'm saying failfox became worse than a clone of chrome

18:00 MinceR; and i didn't even mention their idiotic trademark policy

18:01 geert; well i kind of get to see where you coming from

18:01 geert; sigh

18:01 MinceR; does ungoogled chromium do something about gulag fucking with the API for content blockers?

18:01 geert; i cant deny quite some stuff you mention

18:01 geert; github might get you some insight in ungoogled chrome, not particularly uninteresting

18:01 MinceR; brave has its own native ad blocker, that can help

18:01 geert; i get to run it some while now, actually i think its better effert than many

18:02 geert; i didnt even get to try brave yet, maybe its time to change that

18:02 geert; MinceR no, its more of stripped chromium

18:03 geert; effort*

18:03 TR News; "We're getting prepared for the imminent release of Godot 4.0 beta 1, and to do so we're having a (last?) alpha 17 release to ensure that things work as best as we can reasonably expect before the beta phase." https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-17

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18:03 TR Bot; Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 alpha 17

18:04 TR News; Tin Hearts: A Modern Day Lemmings with a Soothing Story - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/tin-hearts/ Source: Boiling Steam | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boilingsteam.com/tin-hearts/

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18:04 TR Bot; Tin Hearts: A Modern Day Lemmings with a Soothing Story - Boiling Steam

18:06 TR News; Mass DNA Collection in the Tibet Autonomous Region from 20162022 - The Citizen Lab https://citizenlab.ca/2022/09/mass-dna-collection-in-the-tibet-autonomous-region/ Source: Citizen Lab | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//citizenlab.ca/2022/09/mass-dna-collection-in-the-tibet-autonomous-region/

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18:06 TR Bot; Mass DNA Collection in the Tibet Autonomous Region from 20162022 - The Citizen Lab

18:07 TR News; ADPPA vs GDPR: how does the proposed US law compare to EU privacy standards? https://www.techradar.com/features/adppa-vs-gdpr-how-does-the-proposed-us-law-compare-to-eu-privacy-standards

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18:07 TR Bot; vs GDPR: how does the proposed US law compare to EU privacy standards? | TechRadar

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18:18 starstreak; firefox is awesome

18:19 TR News; "understanding of how Open Source principals could or should apply" Who is the principal? At OSI it is Microsoft because OSI has no PRINCIPLES https://blog.opensource.org/episode-5-why-debian-wont-distribute-ai-models-any-time-soon/ http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-budget-for-proprietary-software-monopoly/

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18:19 TR Bot; Episode 5: Why Debian wont distribute AI models any time soon - Voices of Open Source

18:19 TR Bot; In the Latest OSI Tax Filing (From the IRS), Filed 13 Months Ago, Only 4% of the Revenue Comes From Members (People, Not Corporations) and $252,702 Goes to Microsoft Projects (Propping Up Proprietary Software Monopoly) | Techrights

18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

18:26 TR News; (NEW): Alternative MPD clients to GMPC http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Alternative_MPD_clients_to_GMPC.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Alternative_MPD_clients_to_GMPC.gmi

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18:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines Alternative MPD clients to GMPC

18:26 TR News; (NEW): Video and Audio: Games, Distros, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Video_and_Audio_Games_Distros_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/Video_and_Audio_Games_Distros_and_More.gmi

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18:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines Video and Audio: Games, Distros, and More

18:26 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/13/today_s_howtos.3.gmi

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18:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

18:28 geert; starstreak well MinceR is not just talking shit when mentioning some development routes

18:29 geert; its not a clone of chrome etc. but he get to mention some points

18:29 geert; just competing doesnt feel so easy to many peoples and however competing shouldnt be first priority, it seems like mozilla really doesnt wana lose 'lots of ground' so to speak

18:30 MinceR; well, their extension API is practically the same as chrome's and their UI looked a lot like chrome's not long ago

18:30 MinceR; they've mixed up the UI a bit, i'm not sure if i like it

18:30 geert; thats called procrastination it seems :)

18:37 highest_cubist_thrills; firefox is awesome <- the authors are all cunts and the project is a scam

18:38 highest_cubist_thrills; its not even software anymore, its just lie-braries

18:38 highest_cubist_thrills; the ceo/president/mdfl is a criminal

18:39 highest_cubist_thrills; not to mention the whole thing was a prototype for cancel culture

18:39 highest_cubist_thrills; and part of the coup

18:40 geert; well you appear a little bit affected by grumpiness regarding firefox so to speak

18:40 geert; you dont necessarily need to refuse see all possibilities because you got to figure something about difficulties

18:40 highest_cubist_thrills; and they lie about everything

18:40 highest_cubist_thrills; "we care about your privacy"

18:40 highest_cubist_thrills; says the fucking nsa

18:41 MinceR; we have every reason to be grumpy about failfox and mozilla

18:41 highest_cubist_thrills; no you dont, youre fucking liars

18:41 highest_cubist_thrills; "if you work for mozilla... kill yourselves"-- bill hicks

18:41 geert; yea quite some toxic things are going on

18:41 highest_cubist_thrills; it isnt a joke

18:41 geert; i didnt say you're just joking like that

18:42 geert; but i think you kind of get to focus to the darker sides, i think its better to try see potential

18:42 geert; but they shouldnt lie, also about the privacy

18:42 starstreak; Brandon Eich is a homophobe

18:42 highest_cubist_thrills; thats true

18:42 highest_cubist_thrills; hes also in a cult

18:43 highest_cubist_thrills; which doesnt get him off the hook

18:43 geert; not everybody got much digital experience, some of em get to think its reliable at point of privacy etc. where there comes MUCH more to it to seriously secure privacy

18:43 starstreak; which is why i stopped using brave

18:43 highest_cubist_thrills; but as homophobes go, hes probably one of the lesser ones

18:43 highest_cubist_thrills; i actually participated in the axe eich debacle

18:43 starstreak; browsers are just malware bootloaders

18:43 highest_cubist_thrills; on the axe eich side

18:44 highest_cubist_thrills; it wasnt a proud moment and i do regret it

18:45 highest_cubist_thrills; it only paved the way for people who were much worse

18:45 highest_cubist_thrills; like there was nothing good about saddam, they took him out and replaced him with much worse

18:45 highest_cubist_thrills; its not like id vote for him

18:46 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont like torvalds-- they took him out and replaced him with gkh

18:46 highest_cubist_thrills; not better

18:46 MinceR; and why couldn't mozilla find anyone competent to replace Eich with?

18:46 highest_cubist_thrills; because eich WAS competent

18:46 MinceR; is it too much to ask?

18:46 highest_cubist_thrills; as competent as anyone trying to make a web browser

18:46 highest_cubist_thrills; is it too much to ask? <- they didnt think that far / didnt care

18:46 schestowitz[TR]; they lpuit shaver in charge

18:46 highest_cubist_thrills; perhaps i should say we

18:47 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2009/05/31/microsoft-changes-firefox-software/

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18:47 TR Bot; Microsoft Accused of Sabotaging Firefox | Techrights

18:47 schestowitz[TR]; Mozilla vice president of engineering Mike Shaver (2010) http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/mozilla-for-theora/

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18:47 TR Bot; Mozilla is Fighting for Us | Techrights

18:47 schestowitz[TR]; chrome was quite new back then

18:48 highest_cubist_thrills; interim leaders dont count

18:48 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre just there to stop people from saying "they replaced him with baker"

18:48 highest_cubist_thrills; which is much more true

18:48 highest_cubist_thrills; interim leaders are a dmz / neutral zone

18:49 highest_cubist_thrills; knauth

18:49 highest_cubist_thrills; though in iraq they put in someone from the bush oil dynasty

18:49 highest_cubist_thrills; and he went from interim to "elected" leader

18:49 highest_cubist_thrills; so that doesnt fit this pattern, its different

18:49 highest_cubist_thrills; but true interim (only interim) leaders dont count

18:50 highest_cubist_thrills; also, ive never heard of shaver

18:50 highest_cubist_thrills; how important can he be

18:50 highest_cubist_thrills; or did he put in baker

18:50 highest_cubist_thrills; idk/c

18:50 highest_cubist_thrills; baker is the charlatan / head of the coup now

18:50 highest_cubist_thrills; the one milking a non-profit like a fraud

18:51 highest_cubist_thrills; mozilla never had a worse person

18:52 TR News; OIN is Not the Answer and the Real Issue Is Software Patents | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/13/zdnet-swpats-sjvn/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/13/zdnet-swpats-sjvn/

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18:52 TR Bot; OIN is Not the Answer and the Real Issue Is Software Patents | Techrights

18:52 TR News; AMD dumping a bunch of binary blobs on Linux. Soooooooo open. https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git

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18:52 TR Bot; kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git - Repository of firmware blobs for use with the Linux kernel

18:52 highest_cubist_thrills; i use a browser downstream from mozilla

18:53 highest_cubist_thrills; id still be thrilled to watch it burn

18:53 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, tor browser

18:53 highest_cubist_thrills; the sooner the better

18:56 starstreak; there is that other browser coming soon

18:57 starstreak; https://awesomekling.github.io/Ladybird-a-new-cross-platform-browser-project/

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18:57 TR Bot; Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project Andreas Kling I like computers!

18:57 highest_cubist_thrills; another toy from microsoft

18:57 starstreak; its not from microsoft

18:57 highest_cubist_thrills; so many browsers

18:57 highest_cubist_thrills; none of which will give you control of your computing

18:57 highest_cubist_thrills; its not from microsoft <- of course it is

18:57 starstreak; oh github lol

18:58 highest_cubist_thrills; the only place to get software

18:58 highest_cubist_thrills; hell. microsoft had less of a monopoly in the 90s

18:58 mjg59_; > < techrights-news> AMD dumping a bunch of binary blobs on Linux. Soooooooo open.

18:58 highest_cubist_thrills; in the 2000s i was replacing windows component-by-component with things microsoft didnt control

18:59 highest_cubist_thrills; you cant even do that now

18:59 mjg59_; And yet you use hardware that requires non-free firmware. Curious.

18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.66 k/sec., IPFS upstream 29.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 135.43

18:59 highest_cubist_thrills; mjg is like the hanuman of goalposts

18:59 starstreak; ok so i might as well just run microsoft software?

18:59 highest_cubist_thrills; he can move anything

18:59 starstreak; microsoft edge for linux

7 PM, September 13

19:00 highest_cubist_thrills; ok so i might as well just run microsoft software? <- no, there are two points here

19:00 highest_cubist_thrills; 1. its always better to try

19:00 highest_cubist_thrills; 2. worse than doing nothing is making excuses for doing whats wrong

19:00 mjg59_; I'm saying that if non-free firmware is worth complaining about, why is he not complaining about all the non-free firmware he's actually using?

19:00 highest_cubist_thrills; granted, it is probably hopeless for the near future

19:00 highest_cubist_thrills; why is he not complaining about all the non-free firmware he's actually using <- who?

19:01 mjg59_; Roy

19:01 highest_cubist_thrills; oh!

19:01 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont know, but i have a guess

19:01 mjg59_; Non-free firmware is bad, but just complaining about individual instances of it doesn't help describe why it's bad or what the challenges associated with it are

19:02 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, non-free firmware is a problem worth solving

19:02 highest_cubist_thrills; its one of the more difficult ones

19:02 highest_cubist_thrills; leah is the only one i know who is doing anything about it

19:02 highest_cubist_thrills; the fsf has a more perfect plan but i dont think its unfair to say its failing

19:03 highest_cubist_thrills; now leah probably knows more people, im just saying, i dont personally know of them

19:03 highest_cubist_thrills; i suppose hyperbola should also be mentioned

19:04 highest_cubist_thrills; for completeness

19:04 highest_cubist_thrills; even if you put the non-free firmware back in

19:04 highest_cubist_thrills; i think its better to start with an image/install that doesnt include it and makes it optional

19:04 highest_cubist_thrills; everyday people arent going to fish it out like theyre picking at their food

19:06 highest_cubist_thrills; "this contains peanut oil, but if youre allergic you can just eat around it"

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19:11 highest_cubist_thrills; roy isnt hard to explain once you understand that everything is a back justification

19:11 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean literally everything

19:11 MinceR; apparently we're supposed to just give up and use proprietary everything

19:12 *starstreak downloads microsoft edge for linux and powershell

19:12 highest_cubist_thrills; /me likes starstreak no matter what crazy shit she does

19:12 starstreak; :3

19:13 highest_cubist_thrills; at least you didnt sign the letter

19:13 starstreak; i wouldn't really use edge

19:13 mjg59_; The FSF is fine with non-free firmware as long as it's in ROM (not flash), which means we still have the non-free firmware, it's just it's also now impossible to replace it with free firmware

19:13 highest_cubist_thrills; The FSF is fine with non-free firmware as long as it's in ROM (not flash), which means we still have the non-free firmware, it's just it's also now impossible to replace it with free firmware <- the fsfs position is a triumph of logic over reality

19:13 highest_cubist_thrills; i can even SORT OF justify it, but id prefer not to

19:13 mjg59_; But it also means the manufacturer can't replace it, which means nobody can fix the bugs, so that's better?

19:13 MinceR; the FSF is fine with a proprietary OS (systemd) as long as it's open source and the package manager doesn't help you install other proprietary software

19:13 MinceR; the FSF is batshit insane.

19:14 highest_cubist_thrills; no, i mean, devils advocate, i CAN reach a poitn where i dont think the fsfs position on firmware is USELESS

19:14 mjg59_; The position is consistent

19:14 highest_cubist_thrills; but it would be better to improve on it than try to justify it, even if it can be done

19:14 mjg59_; I just don't think it benefits freedom in a meaningful way

19:14 highest_cubist_thrills; The position is consistent <- it doesnt have to be and thats not the problem

19:14 highest_cubist_thrills; I just don't think it benefits freedom in a meaningful wa <- neither do i, and thats more important

19:14 MinceR; i don't see what's consistent about this

19:14 highest_cubist_thrills; it matters that it doesnt benefit freedom in a meaningful way

19:14 MinceR; dehomag is special and their proprietary software is sacred?

19:14 highest_cubist_thrills; if anything, the main advantage is that it IS consistent.

19:15 highest_cubist_thrills; and thats not much of a plus

19:15 MinceR; or is it the Open Source Software Foundation now?

19:15 mjg59_; There are people (other than Leah) working on reverse engineering Intel's FSP, which would remove a blob dependency on some newer Intel boards

19:15 highest_cubist_thrills; it is definitely the osfsf now

19:15 highest_cubist_thrills; which means next it will be the msfsf

19:15 MinceR; yay

19:15 mjg59_; But even without the FSP, the CPU is running non-free code before it starts running Libreboot

19:15 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah i mean

19:16 MinceR; the microcode is also nonfree

19:16 highest_cubist_thrills; the position of the fsf

19:16 highest_cubist_thrills; WILL NOT (ever) get us to free hardware

19:16 MinceR; and you'll point to that in case this actually succeeds

19:16 highest_cubist_thrills; free hardware is optional now

19:16 highest_cubist_thrills; but ultimately, it will be needed

19:16 mjg59_; I'll point to it as an example that we're still running non-free code

19:16 MinceR; the position of the FSF isn't even getting us to free software anymore

19:16 highest_cubist_thrills; and you dont get there by waiting until theres a clear path

19:16 highest_cubist_thrills; you clear a path by starting now

19:16 MinceR; if i ran what they wanted to run, my OS would be proprietary

19:16 highest_cubist_thrills; stallman should realise that

19:16 mjg59_; Anything that reduces the amount of non-free code we run is an improvement

19:16 MinceR; s/ed/ed me/

19:16 highest_cubist_thrills; but its inconvenient and outside what he thinks matters

19:17 highest_cubist_thrills; everyone is running non-free code

19:17 highest_cubist_thrills; the fsf has pivoted to deciding which non-free code is kosher and which is treif

19:18 highest_cubist_thrills; the FSF is batshit insane. <- also this

19:18 highest_cubist_thrills; the position of the FSF isn't even getting us to free software anymore <- also this

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19:18 mjg59_; I mean, part of this is that RMS hasn't kept up with the past 30 years of technology changes

19:18 highest_cubist_thrills; <mjg59_> I just don't think it benefits freedom in a meaningful way <- and even this

19:19 highest_cubist_thrills; <mjg59_> I mean, part of this is that RMS hasn't kept up with the past 30 years of technology <- i dont think thats entirely true

19:19 highest_cubist_thrills; but the ways in which is is true matters

19:19 MinceR; does RMS even have a say in what the FSF does?

19:19 highest_cubist_thrills; not at all

19:19 highest_cubist_thrills; hes president emiritus

19:19 MinceR; even if he did, he'd be a single point of failure

19:19 MinceR; as was Torvalds in Linux

19:19 highest_cubist_thrills; he was a single point of failure

19:19 highest_cubist_thrills; and he failed

19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

19:20 highest_cubist_thrills; and thats that

19:20 highest_cubist_thrills; torvalds had a successor

19:20 highest_cubist_thrills; mjg took care of that

19:20 highest_cubist_thrills; im sure it wasnt mjg alone

19:20 highest_cubist_thrills; but its a fair statement

19:20 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont think oliva could have saved a damn thing

19:20 highest_cubist_thrills; he was the closest thing to a successor, and he isnt made of enough "stuff" to do it

19:21 highest_cubist_thrills; having stallman as a central point of failure made sense in the early days, even a few years ago maybe

19:21 MinceR; who was Torvalds' successor?

19:21 highest_cubist_thrills; for something like the fsf to be sustained

19:21 highest_cubist_thrills; tso of course

19:21 MinceR; pff

19:21 highest_cubist_thrills; eh

19:21 highest_cubist_thrills; then he didnt have one

19:21 highest_cubist_thrills; because gkh is a hitman

19:21 MinceR; i don't like his approach to filesystems

19:21 MinceR; yeah

19:22 highest_cubist_thrills; tso is a good guy

19:22 highest_cubist_thrills; good enough to get the axe for nothing

19:22 MinceR; iirc tso is to blame for the ext4 fuckup

19:22 highest_cubist_thrills; well, im no fan of that either

19:22 MinceR; but still much preferable to gkh and mjg

19:22 highest_cubist_thrills; but the fuckup we have instead is a lot bigger

19:22 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean the fuckup we have now is linux has no future

19:22 highest_cubist_thrills; its not a viable kernel

19:22 highest_cubist_thrills; its a dead kernel walking

19:22 MinceR; indeed

19:23 mjg59_; tso is good at a number of small pieces of the kernel

19:23 mjg59_; He's not a great big picture person

19:23 highest_cubist_thrills; tso is good at a number of small pieces of the kernel <- you could say that about linux

19:23 highest_cubist_thrills; linus

19:23 highest_cubist_thrills; linus isnt a master of the kernel anymore

19:23 highest_cubist_thrills; even if they let him

19:23 highest_cubist_thrills; its over his head

19:23 highest_cubist_thrills; gkh isnt a master either

19:23 mjg59_; I think he's technically more competent than Greg in some specific areas, but I think Greg has a better idea of the overall state of things

19:23 highest_cubist_thrills; hes does what hes told

19:24 highest_cubist_thrills; I think Greg has a better idea of the overall state of things <- they let him in on the plan, so sure

19:24 highest_cubist_thrills; he runs the kernel the way the queen ran england

19:24 highest_cubist_thrills; at the behest of the people who run the kernel

19:24 MinceR; gkh runs Linux the way orban runs hungary

19:25 MinceR; (on putler's behalf)

19:25 highest_cubist_thrills; he does what hes told

19:25 highest_cubist_thrills; thats always going to get him points with someone

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19:26 highest_cubist_thrills; the fsf has no plan

19:26 highest_cubist_thrills; single point of failure isnt a sustainable model forever-- it has its place

19:27 highest_cubist_thrills; they cant decentralise either, because they have no credibility left

19:27 highest_cubist_thrills; there are no parties left to serve them

19:27 highest_cubist_thrills; so its simply disintegrated

19:27 highest_cubist_thrills; thats not the same as decentralising

19:27 highest_cubist_thrills; it simply fell apart

19:28 highest_cubist_thrills; i wont blame stallman for this, because other parties are more responsible

19:28 highest_cubist_thrills; but it was stallmans responsbility to make it sustainable

19:28 highest_cubist_thrills; everyone else failed too

19:28 highest_cubist_thrills; stallman made a series of bad decisions

19:28 highest_cubist_thrills; staring in 2011 at the latest when he stepped down as chief gnuisance

19:28 highest_cubist_thrills; while retaining the title

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19:39 highest_cubist_thrills; it cant be said enough that no one stepped up when stallman stepped down

19:39 highest_cubist_thrills; there was nothing but a series of pretenders to the throne, who pretended to care about the same things

19:40 highest_cubist_thrills; thats a bigger failure than the fsf itself

19:40 highest_cubist_thrills; because the failure of the fsf would not matter, if the fsf itself had a successor

19:40 highest_cubist_thrills; all it had were cheap knockoffs

19:40 highest_cubist_thrills; hell, the sfc is a second copy

19:41 highest_cubist_thrills; its not even a first copy

19:41 highest_cubist_thrills; sfc is the original osfsf

19:41 highest_cubist_thrills; all the projects under its umbrella are open source

19:42 highest_cubist_thrills; its like the bastard lovechild of fsf and osi, having most characteristics of both

19:42 highest_cubist_thrills; even more than osi did

19:43 highest_cubist_thrills; i think kuhn has done everything jim zemlin set out to do

19:43 highest_cubist_thrills; with the obvious exception that jim zemlin just wants bill gates to love him

19:44 highest_cubist_thrills; and kuhn just wants to be loved by stallman

19:44 mjg59_; The FSF failed to inspire leadership, but also leaned hard on the idea that leadership needed to be in the form of an individual genius

19:44 highest_cubist_thrills; The FSF failed to inspire leadership, but also leaned hard on the idea that leadership needed to be in the form of an individual genius <- sure

19:44 mjg59_; No one person could ever replace RMS, but the FSF did nothing to ensure there was a community to take on the role instead

19:44 highest_cubist_thrills; however, in nearly every instance this was only brought out as a dogwhistle in favour of corporate takeover

19:44 highest_cubist_thrills; and that cant be ignored

19:45 highest_cubist_thrills; not many people were willing to stand against corporate takeover

19:45 highest_cubist_thrills; and once stallman was toppled like the saddam statue

19:45 highest_cubist_thrills; pulled down by thousands of intellectual liliputians

19:45 highest_cubist_thrills; actually thats not fair

19:45 highest_cubist_thrills; quite a few of them are brilliant

19:45 highest_cubist_thrills; i should say political, not intellectual

19:46 highest_cubist_thrills; there was nothing left standing in the way of corporations

19:46 highest_cubist_thrills; he was the last obstacle

19:46 highest_cubist_thrills; so it wasnt even about genius

19:46 highest_cubist_thrills; it was about integrity

19:46 highest_cubist_thrills; the bigger failure was

19:46 highest_cubist_thrills; no one stood up to corporations like he did

19:46 highest_cubist_thrills; yes, it was bound to fail

19:46 highest_cubist_thrills; but not exactly for the reasons people usually say

19:46 highest_cubist_thrills; his genius falls flat in the face of several issues

19:47 highest_cubist_thrills; free culture. free hardware. the failure of the fsf itself

19:47 highest_cubist_thrills; he could have started a new fsf

19:47 highest_cubist_thrills; that was never going to happen

19:47 highest_cubist_thrills; he wouldnt abandon his child

19:47 highest_cubist_thrills; but thats the same sort of pride that got esr

19:48 highest_cubist_thrills; if stallman hadnt objectified the fsf

19:48 highest_cubist_thrills; he could have saved it (at least more than he will)

19:48 highest_cubist_thrills; instead of a child, he should have seen the fsf as an exosuit

19:48 highest_cubist_thrills; if your exosuit is destroyed

19:48 highest_cubist_thrills; you go build a new one

19:48 highest_cubist_thrills; but if your child is threatened

19:48 highest_cubist_thrills; you move heaven and earth to save it, even if its hopeless

19:48 highest_cubist_thrills; so as a father hes only human

19:49 highest_cubist_thrills; as a strategist, he has a dead child

19:49 highest_cubist_thrills; of course this is really sloppy and i dont think psychology is going to answer all our questions

19:49 highest_cubist_thrills; but at least the shoe fits

19:51 highest_cubist_thrills; instead of a child, he should have seen the fsf as an exosuit <- there are problems with this as well

19:51 highest_cubist_thrills; for one, its extremely condescending to everyone that worked for the fsf

19:51 highest_cubist_thrills; but thats easily fixed

19:51 highest_cubist_thrills; instead of one exosuit

19:51 highest_cubist_thrills; you see it as a bunch of exosuits

19:51 highest_cubist_thrills; one for each person fighting the good fight

19:52 highest_cubist_thrills; then its not condescending at all-- it means you have an organisation of people who have the potential to become great leaders

19:52 highest_cubist_thrills; the fsf never trained people to fight

19:52 highest_cubist_thrills; it simply handed people their papers

19:52 highest_cubist_thrills; and people would show up and say "i can do this"

19:52 highest_cubist_thrills; and then stallman would bless it or handwave it away

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19:53 highest_cubist_thrills; it wasnt as bad as it sounds, more people understood

19:53 highest_cubist_thrills; but it made enemies

19:53 highest_cubist_thrills; jilted lovers

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19:53 highest_cubist_thrills; enough of them wrote blogs about it

19:53 highest_cubist_thrills; you can see the tears-- theyre only human

19:53 highest_cubist_thrills; its neither fair to blame stallman entirely for this

19:53 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean

19:54 highest_cubist_thrills; no one has a right to be loved by a particular person

19:54 highest_cubist_thrills; thats what stalkers think

19:54 highest_cubist_thrills; you have to love me!

19:54 highest_cubist_thrills; and you can say but stallman was callous

19:54 highest_cubist_thrills; well no, hes fucking awkward as fuck

19:55 highest_cubist_thrills; theres a guy that made gkar figurines in babylon 5

19:55 highest_cubist_thrills; gkar told him it was a horrible thing to do

19:55 highest_cubist_thrills; instantly the guy turned to revenge

19:55 highest_cubist_thrills; this has played out several times in the fsf

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19:56 highest_cubist_thrills; but make no mistake, stallman made a series of bad decisions

19:56 highest_cubist_thrills; and the fsf is no more

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19:56 highest_cubist_thrills; he had lots of help failing

19:56 highest_cubist_thrills; so much help, you have to consider the extraordinary amount of force-- AND TIME-- that it took to bring it down

19:57 highest_cubist_thrills; when you do the math, he did more to keep it viable than he did to destroy it

19:57 highest_cubist_thrills; still a single point of failure though

19:57 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, it was going to come down

19:57 highest_cubist_thrills; if nothing else, it would have crumbled the day he died

19:57 highest_cubist_thrills; all they did by lynching him was move the date

19:58 highest_cubist_thrills; the bigger failure is none of the clones (fsfla, fsfe) are battle-worthy

19:58 highest_cubist_thrills; fsfla has shown mostly integrity but it might as well just hang around and get high

19:58 highest_cubist_thrills; fsfe is a machiavallian nightmare

19:59 highest_cubist_thrills; sfc has an infinite level of negative credibility

19:59 highest_cubist_thrills; and i dont know about moglen, but afaict sflc is in retirement mode

19:59 highest_cubist_thrills; probably not accurate, but if you cant tell then what difference does it make

8 PM, September 13

20:00 highest_cubist_thrills; so yeah

20:00 highest_cubist_thrills; thats about it for the free software movement

20:00 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe it will be back someday, like frosty

20:00 highest_cubist_thrills; there must have been some magic in that old drive platter they found

20:18 geert; egoism doesnt proof very valuable, effective to group.

20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 153.13

9 PM, September 13

21:02 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@4d8iv5adckiqq.irc) has joined #techrights

21:03 DaemonFC; I don't know what's more disturbing.

21:03 DaemonFC; That there's a store calle "Buy Buy Baby" or that their gift cards say "Welcome to Parenthood".

21:03 DaemonFC; Welcome to Parenthood! Time to buy shit. This is gonna be expensive.

21:04 starstreak; HES LOSING HIS FORM! (putin): https://i.imgur.com/IiHJtLN.png

=> ↺ https://i.imgur.com/IiHJtLN.png

21:06 highest_cubist_thrills; rofl

21:08 highest_cubist_thrills; his surface is under attack

21:08 highest_cubist_thrills; special cosmetic operation

21:09 highest_cubist_thrills; "i want to introduce you to our latest mitigation"

21:09 highest_cubist_thrills; "sometimes the face can be used for side channel attacks, and information can be exfiltrated from facial expressions"

21:09 highest_cubist_thrills; "thats why this mitigation is called botox"

21:10 highest_cubist_thrills; "if you have attacked a plane or boat, this mitigation will prevent facial data exfiltration"

21:19 starstreak; lol

21:19 MinceR; > This is gonna be expensive.

21:19 MinceR; it is, though

21:19 MinceR; and it's going to suck hard for the baby

21:19 highest_cubist_thrills; rofl

21:20 MinceR; lol @ putlers' baby

21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

21:20 highest_cubist_thrills; /me falls over

21:20 starstreak; :D

21:20 starstreak; I love A.I

21:21 highest_cubist_thrills; to be fair, youre very easily amused

21:22 XRevan86; Reality is still better: https://youtu.be/-tj_m8vgH04

=> ↺ https://youtu.be/-tj_m8vgH04

21:22 TR Bot; https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=-tj_m8vgH04

=> ↺ https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=-tj_m8vgH04

21:22 TR Bot; inv.riverside.rocks | ! - Invidious

21:24 highest_cubist_thrills; reality is just a skeleton in the closet

21:27 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_yErA7uUl6Q

=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_yErA7uUl6Q

21:27 TR Bot; Skeleton - Invidious

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21:43 DaemonFC; Walmart accidentally added a pound of roast beef I didn't order. Does no good to say anything. THey can't take it back. I mean, they will but they'll throw it in the trash once they've handed it off to you.

21:43 DaemonFC; A pound of roast beef is now $12.20, schestowitz-TR2

21:43 DaemonFC; This is fucking bullshit. I guess I'd better enjoy the roast beef.

21:43 DaemonFC; If Biden's around much longer, there won't be any.

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22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 49.00 average k/sec., average swarm size 173.56

11 PM, September 13

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