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00:00 DaemonFC; I usually only pay about $400-500 a year out of pocket on my healthcare.
00:00 DaemonFC; Fee-for-service is going out of style. I have avoided HMOs for a while now.
00:00 DaemonFC; As long as it's medically necessary, it's covered.
00:01 DaemonFC; I can go anywhere I want. There is no network.
00:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], You have to keep an eye on the doctor though. Like, if they say "I'm evaluating him due to hypertension and this is why I need these labs done." the labwork has no co-pays.
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00:02 DaemonFC; If they just say "Do these.", then I get a bill saying my insurance rejected everything and I have to pay them $500 or something.
00:02 DaemonFC; I tried arguing with them on appeal once and nobody would reverse it, so I threw the lab into the bankruptcy.
00:02 DaemonFC; Since then, I've made very sure to make sure the lab order has "medically necessary" billing codes on it before I go in there.
00:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], We've had a lot of "freedom days".
00:03 DaemonFC; In 2020, Trump said it'll be gone by August.
00:03 DaemonFC; Mom repeated him.
00:03 MinceR; french days?
00:03 DaemonFC; Then last year, Biden said July 4th was Independence from COVID.
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; 800,000+ deaths later...
00:04 DaemonFC; Then a year later, almost to the day, mom and my brother have it at the same time.
00:04 MinceR; nice, finally the USA is not a colony of COVID, whatever that might be
00:04 DaemonFC; MinceR, It started out as a declaration of independence from COVID.
00:04 DaemonFC; Stating that it wouldn't tax our tea anymore.
00:04 DaemonFC; That's always how it begins.
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00:05 MinceR; https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/17/bofh_2022_episode_11/
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00:05 TR Bot; HR investigates the Boss with an assist from BOFH The Register
00:05 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166739
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00:05 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
00:06 matey; mincer: does this brown shirt go with this red hat?
00:06 MinceR; of course
00:06 MinceR; 02 010442 < DaemonFC> That's always how it begins.
00:06 MinceR; then later there's running and screaming
00:09 DaemonFC; Yeah, you take turns doing that until someone gives up.
00:09 DaemonFC; That's called war.
00:09 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-FUkH_tkR0
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00:09 TR Bot; https://y.com.sb/watch?v=B-FUkH_tkR0
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00:10 TR Bot; y.com.sb | War! It's Fantastic! - Invidious
00:14 TR News; Links 01/07/2022: Russians Switching to GNU/Linux, New WINE Release | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/01/russians-switching-to-gnu-linux/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/01/russians-switching-to-gnu-linux/
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00:14 TR Bot; Links 01/07/2022: Russians Switching to GNU/Linux, New WINE Release | Techrights
00:14 TR News; Hamza Musas Review of Free Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166740
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00:14 TR Bot; Hamza Musa's Review of Free Software | Tux Machines
00:14 TR News; openSUSE Tumbleweed and openSUSE Leap on Raspberry Pi Zero 2 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166741
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00:14 TR Bot; openSUSE Tumbleweed and openSUSE Leap on Raspberry Pi Zero 2 | Tux Machines
00:14 TR News; Godot Engine 4.0 Alpha 11 and Porting Doom to Helios Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166742
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00:14 TR Bot; Godot Engine 4.0 Alpha 11 and Porting Doom to Helios | Tux Machines
00:14 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166743
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00:14 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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00:20 *psydruid doesn't believe debian or any derivative can be disinfected
00:26 MinceR; i think it's possible, but it involves a hard fork of the distro, and the community doesn't seem to have the people to do that
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: need your help..
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; this regards a criminal case
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; and you know us law better
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; texas in this case
00:34 TR News; I'm sorry I mistakenly sent that to you. By the way, how are things with you? gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/07/01.1
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00:35 TR News; "i'm not aware of any widespread convention for designating tags on a gemlog post - if there is one, please let me know! Otherwise, at the risk of creating standard 15[a], here's what i'm going to start using on my own gemlog." gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/flexibeast/gemlog/2022-07-02.gmi
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00:36 DaemonFC; It varies depending on the state, but in general, yeah.
00:37 DaemonFC; The most different from the rest is Louisiana.
00:37 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2022/07/01/balabhadra-alex-graveley-pleads-guilty/
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00:37 TR Bot; Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XXII Mr. GitHub Copilot Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley Pleads Guilty After Assaulting Women | Techrights
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00:39 DaemonFC; "We know for a fast"
00:39 DaemonFC; Mistake?
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; ah
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00:40 DaemonFC; What about his case?
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; deferred sentence
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; whaat would that be like?
00:40 SomeH4x0r; matey: seen someone called matey just disconnected from StardustNetwork, was it you
00:40 DaemonFC; Plea bargains happen all the time. Technically, you are admitting guilt, but factually, people do it whether they are guilty or innocent based on what they figure their odds are in court, which are usually not good either way.
00:41 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> whaat would that be like?
00:42 DaemonFC; Depends on what you mean. A deferred sentence is just that. It doesn't go into effect during a period of probation or court supervision unless you screw up and come back in front of the court. In which case the original sentence goes into effect immediately and you're charged with a probation violation, which is a Class A Misdemeanor usually, at least in Illinois and Indiana.
00:42 DaemonFC; So you can get into more trouble, or you can complete it and that's the end of that.
00:42 DaemonFC; Judges usually put jail time in and then suspend it as motivation for not getting into any more trouble while you're on probation.
00:43 DaemonFC; That's the stick.
00:43 DaemonFC; The carrot, at least in Illinois and Indiana, is that you might also be able to negotiate for the court to dismiss your case entirely at the end of the sentence.
00:44 DaemonFC; So you have no "conviction" record and can honestly answer you have never been "convicted" of a crime on a job application or an apartment screener.
00:44 MinceR; https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/24/bofh_2022_episode_12/
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00:44 TR Bot; BOFH: The Boss has quit and we have to replace him The Register
00:44 DaemonFC; TransUnion got into trouble in Illinois for returning court supervisions on background checks.
00:44 DaemonFC; That's why nothing comes up when you ask TransUnion to do a background check on me.
00:44 DaemonFC; I don't have any convictions, and that's all they are allowed to report.
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00:45 DaemonFC; Most landlords use TransUnion SmartMove, and since it doesn't report on court supervisions, you should answer "No" if it asks if you've ever been convicted of a crime on the apartment application.
00:45 DaemonFC; They won't find out about it unless you tell them.
00:46 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], A court supervision is the next best thing to beating the charges entirely.
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00:46 DaemonFC; Unless someone looks in the court computer for this county to see the court records, it doesn't come up.
00:47 DaemonFC; Being convicted is much worse, because then the state allows everyone to report you were convicted and you have to say yes even to people who wouldn't have figured it out on their own.
00:47 matey; i think it's possible, but it involves a hard fork of the distro
00:48 DaemonFC; And it's much harder to expunge a conviction later than it is to expunge an old arrest record.
00:48 matey; i agree, on that and the point about the the community
00:48 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], If you can expunge, then it's legally like it never happened, almost.
00:48 DaemonFC; That's why I'm hiring an attorney soon to get an expungement.
00:48 matey; theres really nothing debian has that is worth salvaging to the people who would want it salvaged enough to do it
00:48 DaemonFC; That seals the court records and nobody will be able to look it up.
00:48 matey; apt in particular, is dogshit
00:49 matey; friendly dogshit, in that it avoids your foot most of the time-- by design
00:49 MinceR; well, it was nice to have a fixed release gnu/linux distro
00:49 MinceR; but release engineering takes work
00:49 MinceR; and not enough people are willing to do it, so we're not having it anymore
00:49 matey; also by design, if you try to get into it at all, youre going to get shit all over you
00:49 schestowitz; [00:44] So you have no "conviction" record and can honestly answer you have never been "convicted" of a crime on a job application or an apartment screener.
00:49 schestowitz; thanks for explaning
00:49 DaemonFC; It can be pretty pricey to bury it. You have to hire an attorney and pay the court a fee.
00:49 matey; it was nice to have a fixed release gnu/linux distro
00:49 matey; yeah
00:50 DaemonFC; But it's worth it because you won't ever have to answer for it when you apply for a job or something again. Because they won't know and you're not obligated to tell them.
00:50 MinceR; i mean there's still slackware, but it takes so much time between releases that you can't really install it on a new PC most of the time
00:50 matey; but they havent released a fix in 7 years
00:50 MinceR; you can install -current but then it just destroys itself when you tell it to update
00:50 DaemonFC; Getting a deferred judgment is a powerful incentive to just go ahead and plead it out, especially if it's a very low level charge they'll reduce it to.
00:50 matey; and of course, theres the kernel
00:50 TR News; Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XXII Mr. GitHub Copilot Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley Pleads Guilty After Assaulting Women | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/01/balabhadra-alex-graveley-pleads-guilty/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/01/balabhadra-alex-graveley-pleads-guilty/
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00:50 TR Bot; Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XXII Mr. GitHub Copilot Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley Pleads Guilty After Assaulting Women | Techrights
00:51 matey; i spent years saying to myself
00:51 matey; im really fucking tired of this piece of shit, and everyone who has anything to do with it
00:51 matey; but what can i do about it
00:51 matey; hurd is... worse
00:51 DaemonFC; Convictions are terrible. Just terrible.
00:52 DaemonFC; Especially in the current jobs market, which is also terrible, they just won't admit it.
00:52 MinceR; i'm really fucking tired of this piece of shit industry and this piece of shit society and most people who have anything to do with them
00:52 matey; i'm really fucking tired of this piece of shit industry <- yep
00:52 DaemonFC; Walmart uses a screening company, for example. If you get a court supervision, then they probably won't ever know, but if you get a conviction they will.
00:52 matey; and this piece of shit society <- society is fucking broken
00:52 TR News; "Heres your weekly Fedora report. Read what happened this week and whats coming up. Your contributions are welcome (see the end of the post)!" Almost nothing happens. It's just an ICBM beta for RHEL. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-26/
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00:52 TR Bot; Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-26 Fedora Community Blog
00:52 matey; if you want to imagine it being fixed
00:52 matey; you have to go back to the last time it made MAJOR progress
00:52 matey; not technological progress
00:53 TR News; "In June I was not assigned additional hours of work by Freexian's Debian LTS initiative, but carried over 16 hours from May and worked all of those hours." https://www.decadent.org.uk/ben/blog/debian-lts-work-june-2022.html
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00:53 TR Bot; Better living through software - Ben Hutchings's diary of life and technology
00:53 matey; if the nazis had the best tech in the world, theyd still be fucking pieces of shit
00:53 matey; i mean progress as a society
00:53 matey; its been a long fucking time (sans reforms)
00:53 matey; i mean the last time society was broken and got a real upgrade (overhaul)
00:53 MinceR; in ~20 years, we've gone from "if you're lucky, you can get a computer you can run a free Unix on and you can run free Unix on it" to "you can get a piece of shit computer and you can try to run a piece of shit OS on it, but maybe even the kernel won't boot on it, or maybe the network stack will become unusable if you unplug the Ethernet cable"
00:54 MinceR; everything is being developed in reverse
00:54 matey; everything is being developed in reverse <- by design
00:54 MinceR; i don't think that this train wreck shipping a trash fire that is human society is designed in any way
00:54 matey; the industy really hates it when people have anything TOO good
00:55 MinceR; the industry really hates it when people have access to something that works
00:55 MinceR; FTFY
00:55 matey; because to them, its basically like "oh. well i thought we were married, and like, whos this slut youre always hanging out with, while im stuck at home?"
00:55 matey; and the psychotic thing about that is-- they really think we belong to them.
00:56 MinceR; nearly everything is run by sociopaths
00:56 matey; so how dare we stick our (whatever) in other vendors?
00:56 matey; nearly everything is run by sociopaths <- that too
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00:56 matey; and imo society is structured in a way (by sociopaths for sociopaths)
00:56 matey; that ensures their ascent
00:56 matey; so it really is broken
00:57 matey; not all society was like that
00:57 matey; if we found one that wasnt
00:57 matey; we burned their homes, raped their women, and took their wealth
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00:57 matey; all in the name of teaching them how to be good people
00:58 matey; what i found really inspiring, was here was this exception-- you know, free software
00:58 matey; here was an example of society working
00:58 matey; oh of course we cant have that
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.43 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
00:59 MinceR; IT became too important so the sociopaths found out about free software
00:59 matey; yep
00:59 matey; and heres the thing
00:59 matey; im not out to be a leader, im not out to get a statue, im not out to get rich but
00:59 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Yeah, my brother just tested positive at the walk in clinic.
01:00 DaemonFC; NP says she won't order the pills until he has his kidney function checked.
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01:00 matey; one thing is for sure, i wanted to be part of something that ACTUALLY makes the world suck less
01:00 DaemonFC; If that test is okay, she said she'd call the pills in tonight from home or tomorrow morning.
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01:00 matey; ive been working on this for more than a decade
01:00 matey; and they keep fucking it up and making it worse
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01:00 TR News; How to Configure DIG Emulator Frontend for Android https://www.maketecheasier.com/configure-dig-emulator-frontend-android/
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01:00 TR Bot; How to Configure DIG Emulator Frontend for Android - Make Tech Easier
01:00 matey; free software was the thing that made me believe libertarianism could work (and i still believe in it, after a fashion)
01:01 MinceR; of course it can work
01:01 TR News; Archman 2022.07.02 is out https://archman.org/
01:01 TR Bot; Archman GNU/Linux
01:01 MinceR; you just need a species capable of civilization for it
01:01 MinceR; which humans aren't
01:01 matey; well yeah, i know
01:01 MinceR; the only thing that works with humans is extinction
01:01 matey; though i dont use the word "civilisation" because... ive read a LOT of books by daniel quinn
01:02 DaemonFC; Good thing my brother has the Medicaid.
01:02 matey; and ive always looked for a post-civilisation humanity
01:02 DaemonFC; Hospital labs, trip to the walk-in clinic....
01:02 TR News; Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley from Microsoft GitHub (the man behind the GPL violation machine called Copilot) has pled guilty to get deferred sentence http://techrights.org/2022/07/01/balabhadra-alex-graveley-pleads-guilty/
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01:02 TR Bot; Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XXII Mr. GitHub Copilot Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley Pleads Guilty After Assaulting Women | Techrights
01:02 DaemonFC; That's about $1,000 or so.
01:02 matey; which civilisation says "no, theres only civiliisation and PRE-civilisation: decency and INdecency"
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01:02 matey; but most of this decency consists of taking land, raping women, burning homes etc
01:02 DaemonFC; You can walk into the hospital and just use their lab, but it costs a lot of money still, even if someone else wrote the lab order.
01:02 matey; and im not talking about rape culture
01:03 matey; im saying in war, theres a lot of raping
01:03 matey; i dont know why, i guess because they can?
01:03 DaemonFC; For comprehensive metabolic panel and complete blood count? About $600.
01:03 matey; like we just killed everybody, whos gonna stop us?
01:03 DaemonFC; $400 or so to see the nurse practitioner at the walk-in clinic.
01:03 matey; im not condoning it, just trying to understand how this shit happens
01:04 matey; i think the anti-gay bits of leviticus are about this (not about homosexuality as the bible thumpers think)
01:04 matey; i mean so much is plagiarised in the first place, and they dont know where from
01:04 matey; but ive known a lot of interesting people, who know a LOT more about leviticus than the christians
01:04 matey; which is where i get this notion
01:05 matey; but society...
01:05 matey; im still looking for the people capable of sustaining a free software movement
01:05 matey; with stallman effectively dead, opportunists have taken over
01:05 matey; just like in iraq-- hussain is gone, (with apologies to stallman, its the situation you see)
01:06 matey; and now all the people who invaded are taking permanent control of the region
01:06 matey; in a way that does NOTHING for the people who live there at all
01:06 matey; but its great for (western) business
01:06 matey; this is what will happen to ukraine, and many will welcome it because it (really) is better than putlin
01:07 matey; they will welcome the lesser evil
01:07 matey; (some wont, but who cares)
01:08 matey; free software isnt run by people better than stallman
01:08 matey; its run by people who want to make a name for themselves-- like penfold hehim
01:08 MinceR; there's already an international community that worships vladolf
01:08 MinceR; the ruscists
01:08 matey; oh yeah but dont let that fool you
01:08 matey; obviously thats a subset of a larger and growing problem
01:09 matey; and the world, if it gives a fuck about anything, needs to wake up to the spread of fascism
01:09 matey; because thats global too
01:09 matey; but im actually optimistic about that
01:09 matey; because its win or die
01:09 MinceR; and those people (former president Scammy Doofus Jr., orban, bolsonaro, etc.) aren't going to become any more civilized even after orcland falls (well, except possibly putler himself, who might get executed if we're lucky)
01:10 matey; executed by coffee
01:10 matey; but sure
01:10 MinceR; it seems to me that the world doesn't really mind the spread of fascism
01:10 MinceR; they would have done something about it if they did
01:10 matey; well its still by sociopaths
01:10 matey; so we have a really good list of things that need to be fixed
01:10 matey; for humanity to be worth two shits
01:10 matey; fascism has to go
01:11 matey; free software has to be salvaged (imo) because even the fucking amish are digital these days
01:11 MinceR; at least one "conservative"/"christian democrat" organization would have stood up and said "yeah, that party is a member of us, but we can no longer stand conservatism being equated with dictatorship or totalitarianism anymore"
01:11 MinceR; they haven't
01:11 MinceR; and "conservatives" get to rule even the less benighted places about half the time
01:11 matey; there are two main parties in the usa
01:11 matey; the fake libertarians known as republicans
01:12 matey; and the fake progressives known as democrats
01:12 matey; the rest of the world has their own problems-- but theyre not entirely removed from any of this
01:12 matey; one of the things that made me sad about living abroad-- and i loved it anyway
01:12 MinceR; for example, new zealand's "national party" is a member of the "IDU" and a partner of the ECR
01:12 matey; the world is so fucking american, its nuts
01:13 matey; not possible without these huge multinationals
01:13 matey; but still
01:13 MinceR; the world is so fucking fascist, i don't think it will be able to last much longer
01:13 matey; the crisis is real
01:13 matey; the threat is real
01:13 matey; the danger is very real
01:13 MinceR; with all these bible-humping anti-science people, there's going to be a global threat that the overwhelming majority will just want to pray away
01:13 matey; i think humanity can win this one.
01:13 MinceR; and it won't work
01:13 MinceR; and it's for the better
01:14 MinceR; it's better for the universe that humanity gets wiped out before it can spread much further
01:14 matey; you see the bible-humping anti-science people as a force
01:14 MinceR; they are
01:14 matey; i see them as an effect primarily
01:14 MinceR; and they're getting more and more powerful
01:14 matey; theyre the unwitting armies of the other side
01:14 matey; theyll be used against us
01:14 matey; they are being used against us
01:14 MinceR; they are trying to exterminate us
01:14 matey; yea
01:14 MinceR; what they don't realize is that they will also exterminate themselves
01:15 matey; if if someone came along and slaughtered them and saved humanity, thats fair play
01:15 MinceR; they believe their "god" will protect them, whatever happens
01:15 MinceR; but their "god" doesn't exist and so it won't
01:15 matey; although i dont think thats how its going to play out
01:15 matey; gods a funny thing
01:15 matey; one day he means this
01:15 matey; the next day hes interpreted differently
01:15 schestowitz[TR]; god is a comerdian with dice
01:15 matey; hes likes a spiritual dapper dan
01:16 matey; einstein didnt believe god plays dice and i dont either
01:16 matey; of course einstein was talking about the universe, and i dont care about the distinction
01:16 schestowitz[TR]; einstein was an asshole to his wife
01:16 matey; well, hes dead
01:16 MinceR; and since the earth has about 1 billion years of having an atmosphere left, i doubt that intelligent life will evolve even after humans kill themselves off
01:16 schestowitz[TR]; and he thought all sorts of wrong things
01:17 MinceR; and so all of life on Earth is doomed
01:17 schestowitz[TR]; people only remember the correct things he thought of
01:17 matey; i dont recommend joining the local einstein-hating club though, its REALLY stupid
01:17 matey; people only remember the correct things he thought of <- thats not really true
01:17 schestowitz[TR]; i dont recommend joining the local einstein-hating club though, its REALLY stupid
01:17 schestowitz[TR]; that'sa red heerrr (ing)
01:17 matey; the things youre referring to arent exactly esoteric history lost to the archives
01:18 schestowitz[TR]; right
01:18 schestowitz[TR]; fair punkt
01:18 matey; and so all of life on Earth is doomed < its kind of win-win
01:18 matey; either humanity reopens its wontfixes
01:18 MinceR; most of these species are innocent, afaict
01:18 MinceR; only humans are idiot devils
01:18 matey; or it kills itself once and for all
01:18 MinceR; and dogs are their hell hounds
01:19 MinceR; they're like their creators
01:19 schestowitz[TR]; matey: Herbivore cause no pain
01:19 matey; citation needed
01:19 schestowitz[TR]; * MinceR
01:19 MinceR; herbivores do eat animals from time to time
01:19 MinceR; i remember a video of a horse eating a chicken
01:19 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: yes
01:19 schestowitz[TR]; some do
01:20 matey; "funny, this tastes just like hay"
01:20 schestowitz[TR]; even pandas
01:20 schestowitz[TR]; they'd eat a mouse if it fuccks around with their previous f**ing banBOO
01:20 MinceR; probably they all do, if they get an opportunity
01:20 schestowitz[TR]; *bamboo
01:20 MinceR; bamboo can have insects on and in it
01:20 matey; insects never counted
01:20 MinceR; riiiiiight
01:20 schestowitz[TR]; what about bacteria?
01:20 matey; no one gives a fuck if they feel pain
01:20 schestowitz[TR]; vegs are grown with pesticide usually
01:21 matey; im sure many would prefer it
01:21 MinceR; bacteria are killed in quite large amounts
01:21 schestowitz[TR]; fo vegans kill insects
01:21 schestowitz[TR]; and there are also small organisms inside
01:21 MinceR; nature is red in tooth and claw
01:21 MinceR; and some idiot humans delude themselves about it
01:21 schestowitz[TR]; usually it goes like, OK, plants don't feel pain
01:21 schestowitz[TR]; small organisms also
01:21 MinceR; do "conservatives" feel pain?
01:21 MinceR; maybe they only react as if they did
01:21 schestowitz[TR]; but we won't eat THAT animal
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; Orban is an insect... to Putin
01:22 matey; do "conservatives" feel pain? <- not nearly enough
01:22 MinceR; i thought orban was his fuckbuddy
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; no
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; putin can't f***
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; he only f***s around
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; with leaders and nations
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; high-fives mo bin salman
01:22 MinceR; orban likes to lock down half of budapest and have the manholes welded and have vladolf fly over to fuck him from time to time
01:23 MinceR; they could fuck in felcsut, but that wouldn't inconvenience nearly as many people and it wouldn't be nearly as much a spectacle
01:23 schestowitz[TR]; orban is luka lite
01:23 matey; if we wont eat smaller organisms, how the fuck do we get cheese and yogurt
01:23 schestowitz[TR]; ukraine didn't have its own orban
01:23 schestowitz[TR]; do putler invaded
01:23 matey; or beer!
01:23 schestowitz[TR]; next we might do the same in baltic stgates
01:23 matey; or wine
01:23 MinceR; ukraine used to have its own orban, but he lost power
01:23 schestowitz[TR]; to install russian leaders
01:23 matey; or kimchi
01:24 MinceR; it's interesting how ruscists babble about sovereignty all the time, but apparently ukraine doesn't deserve to have it
01:24 matey; i mean, vegan beer?
01:24 matey; as in no fermentation?
01:24 MinceR; is it brewed from real vegans?
01:24 schestowitz[TR]; like I said, the thereshold ois set
01:24 schestowitz[TR]; like, dwad germs are OK
01:24 schestowitz[TR]; or dead insects
01:24 matey; /me gives his girl scout cookies a funny look
01:25 MinceR; germs in yogurt are rarely dead
01:25 schestowitz[TR]; for food that's not "organic" more so
01:25 MinceR; it's a selling point
01:25 schestowitz[TR]; the pestides don't kill just "weed" and "bad" plants
01:25 MinceR; https://i.imgur.com/WGSoqe9.mp4
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01:25 matey; i set a threshold too
01:25 matey; i dont eat red meat
01:25 MinceR; i do
01:25 MinceR; beef is delicious
01:25 matey; i dont eat pork
01:25 matey; beef is delicious?
01:25 matey; but it creeps me out a little
01:25 MinceR; and some tuna is also technically red, and i love it in sushi
01:25 matey; and its REALLY fucking inefficient
01:26 matey; ridiculously so
01:26 MinceR; i guess salmon is also technically red and i love it even more so
01:26 matey; tuna: the OTHER red meat
01:26 schestowitz[TR]; weird
01:26 MinceR; efficiency wouldn't be so much of a problem if this species of idiot devils focused on quality of life instead of trying to coat the entire planet in human bodies
01:26 matey; ("pork: the other white meat" was a real campaign)
01:26 schestowitz[TR]; matey: yes, overpopulation
01:26 MinceR; i've heard "human: the other white meat"
01:26 schestowitz[TR]; matey: how many humans for the planet?
01:26 MinceR; but human isn't white and neither is pork, afaik
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; i've heard "human: the other white meat"
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; you cannot say this in africa
01:27 MinceR; i could, if i went there
01:27 matey; the fake left gets very uptight about overpopulation
01:27 MinceR; but i don't think i'm going to
01:27 matey; because they think its inherently racist, on account of sometimes it actually is
01:28 matey; thats typical fake left logic
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; it is againa red herr (ing)
01:28 matey; the real left has shit to do, so talking about overpopulation is allowed and even necessary
01:28 MinceR; meanwhile the "conservatives" think it's great to handle overpopulation by simply depriving 99.999% of humans of most or all resources and hope to be the tiny fraction that gets to live like kings
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; nobody says let''s reduce population based on race
01:28 MinceR; and of course most of them don't get to be that
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; or let's kill/cull
01:28 MinceR; they just campaign for themselves to be forced into a worse existence, effectively
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; the idea is controlling birth levels
01:28 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> nobody says let''s reduce population based on race <- i guess you missed it
01:29 matey; it was several decade ago
01:29 matey; actually getting closer to a century
01:29 schestowitz[TR]; eugenics
01:29 matey; yeah thats still a thing
01:29 schestowitz[TR]; that's not about overpopulation
01:29 matey; well not exactly
01:29 schestowitz[TR]; eugenics is about nationalism and supremacists
01:29 schestowitz[TR]; trying to "remove" the "bad" genes
01:29 matey; but the two can be fit together, like orban and putin
01:30 schestowitz[TR]; if we achieve populaioion reduction through births, however, the elephant in the room is, who sets the policy?
01:30 matey; yo dawg we herd you like solving overpopulation! so we put eugenics in your solution, so you can sieg while you heil!
01:30 schestowitz[TR]; would that be weighted sum of current population distribution?
01:30 schestowitz[TR]; say, you've decided the earth can cope with 1 million humans
01:31 schestowitz[TR]; so about 400,000 of them would be Indian and Chinese
01:31 matey; who sets the policy? <- if we could actually solve racism
01:31 schestowitz[TR]; and even then, WHICH indian and chinese?
01:31 matey; which sounds nuts
01:31 schestowitz[TR]; indian and chinese are not ethnicities
01:31 matey; i mean i know theres going to be little bits of it in everyone
01:31 schestowitz[TR]; tghere are many ethnicities in those two countries
01:31 matey; and thats actually not a problem
01:31 MinceR; it will probably solve itself
01:31 matey; well your solutions are notoriously deadly
01:31 MinceR; humanity's ways are deadly
01:32 matey; only youre not directly responsible so youre not a nazi
01:32 MinceR; racism especially so
01:32 matey; i mean if nazis kill themselves and everyone else
01:32 matey; thats not your fault
01:32 MinceR; one way to go is to divide humanity in half, have one of them exterminate the other half, then start over
01:32 matey; but its still a fucking terrible solution
01:32 MinceR; and at the end, 1 human remains and dies, perhaps of old age
01:32 matey; except for the killing themselves part, which i like just fine
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; one way to go is to divide humanity in half, have one of them exterminate the other half, then start over
01:32 MinceR; humans are fucking terrible and are resistant to improvement
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; that's a sort algorithm
01:33 matey; roy and i differ like this
01:33 matey; i think it GREAT when people like that kill themselves
01:33 matey; it should be applauded
01:33 MinceR; this sort of divide-and-exterminate can work by race, ethnicity, religion, gender and a great many other criteria that humans like to hate each other on the basis of
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; some people would tell you,
01:34 matey; fuck them
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; that china and russian "took turn"
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; with pandemic and way/ewnergy denial
01:34 MinceR; it is one of the possible ends "conservatives" are trying to steer us all toward
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; but no evidence of real cooredination
01:34 MinceR; they just don't understand it because they're "conservatives"
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; so overpopulation is deadly already
01:34 matey; who do you think can actually stop the conservatives?
01:34 MinceR; i don't think i can
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; water conflicts, famine, in north africa those are very real problems right now
01:34 matey; certainly not the coc-brigade
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; in uk it means "recession"
01:34 MinceR; there's too damn many of them and some dumbasses gave them powerful weapons
01:35 matey; i dont think you count them properly
01:35 MinceR; but at least i can rest assured that even if they win, they'll wipe themselves out and lose anyway
01:35 matey; to be fair, almost anyone else would count them the same
01:35 matey; if youre talking about strategy
01:35 MinceR; because they despise the only things that could save them from major threats: science and technology
01:36 matey; let me try a metaphor, and lets overlook the fact that nearly any possible way i can say "youre doing this wrong" is going to sound condescending
01:36 matey; it neednt, but it will
01:36 matey; imagine you chess board
01:36 MinceR; or maybe we get very lucky, orcland gets glassed and the other ruscists shut the fuck up and hide permanently
01:36 matey; and youre trying to come up with a strategy for actually winning
01:36 MinceR; which is very unlikely, but i guess one can hope
01:37 matey; and you look at the board, and decide its probably hopeless because
01:37 matey; "theres just too many pawns"
01:37 matey; imo thats how you do this
01:37 matey; you have to look at the important pieces
01:37 MinceR; i don't control any of the WMDs that could be used to glass orcland
01:37 MinceR; sociopaths do
01:38 matey; thats a start, looking at who has the most power
01:38 MinceR; if i was born a sociopath, perhaps i could have maneuvered myself into a position of power, but then, being a sociopath, i wouldn't even try to use it to save humanity
01:38 matey; but power is complicated
01:38 MinceR; but i wasn't
01:38 matey; how do you glass russia without fucking most of europe
01:38 matey; because we might actually WANT europe
01:38 MinceR; how do you not glass russia without fucking most of europe
01:38 matey; not for selfless reasons either
01:39 MinceR; putler will start launching nukes left and right once he realizes he has lost
01:39 matey; how do you not glass russia without fucking most of europe <- fair enough
01:39 MinceR; our best chance is either assassinating him (which would have already happened if it was easy enough) or launching nukes first, trying to take out orcland's nuclear capabilities entirely before they could attack
01:40 matey; most of the people with a vested interest in europe
01:40 MinceR; and then trying to survive the strikes that they do manage to launch
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01:40 matey; cant destroy russia without messing up their other plans
01:40 MinceR; or, if all their nukes are inoperable (for lack of maintenance or sabotage), maybe a classic land war against orcland
01:40 MinceR; but even that would be very deadly
01:40 MinceR; and i don't know the status of their nukes and i wonder if anyone on this planet knows
01:40 matey; at least not in that particular fashion
01:41 MinceR; and the stakes seem too high to gamble
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01:42 matey; the gambling will continue until morale improves
01:42 MinceR; does not having any more subjects that could have morale count as improving morale?
01:43 MinceR; if so, that's another way in which we have a bright future
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01:43 MinceR; beside the obvious one that ~5 billion years from now the Sun will encompass the orbit of the Earth, making the ruins of our society (if any) very brightly lit indeed
01:44 matey; as far as 5 billion years goes
01:44 matey; i think we can evacuate in that time frame
01:44 matey; the trick is making it that far
01:44 MinceR; we need appropriate technology
01:44 matey; timewise
01:44 matey; we dont need it today
01:45 MinceR; also, if we don't make it in the first billion or so, we're going to have to survive without oxygen, CO2 or water
01:45 MinceR; we will never have that technology if the anti-science nutcases win
01:45 matey; we cant even make aur own c compiler without it being fucked with
01:45 MinceR; yeah
01:45 matey; what happens to the oxygen and c02 in 1 billion years?
01:46 MinceR; and of course it's going to be very hard to withstand the temperature and radiation on the planet even before the ~5 billion years
01:46 MinceR; the Sun will heat the planet so much it will boil the oceans and blow away the atmosphere, or something like that
01:46 matey; right
01:46 matey; reflectors?
01:46 MinceR; really, it's better to either leave on spaceships or turn the planet into a spaceship
01:46 MinceR; before then
01:47 schestowitz[TR]; and go where?
01:47 matey; really, it's better to either leave on spaceships or turn the planet into a spaceship <- this is what one of my associates is planning
01:47 MinceR; not sure
01:47 MinceR; maybe going on a bigger orbit around the Sun
01:47 MinceR; maybe going to some remaining yellow dwarf
01:47 MinceR; or some other kind of star we can survive orbiting
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; but the SUn will be gone
01:48 MinceR; not quite
01:48 matey; thats later roy
01:48 MinceR; it will become a red giant first
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; also, I think because of the gravity and density of earth this would not work
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; unless you alter orrbit speed
01:48 MinceR; and then it will become a white dwarf (and i'm not sure how well we can live in orbit around a white dwarf)
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; imagine the planners...
01:48 MinceR; what is "this"?
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; "trying staging" on "prod"
01:49 MinceR; :>
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; "hand with us... we're trying to put the planet on another orbit"
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; *hang
01:49 MinceR; well, it's better to not keep all your eggs in one basket anyway
01:49 matey; the 1b problem
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; then they do "fixed" directly on the production
01:49 MinceR; living on one planet keeps humanity very vulnerable
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; as it was miscanculated
01:49 MinceR; to things like gamma rays bursts, for example
01:49 matey; you thought y2k was a kerfuffle
01:50 MinceR; s/ys/y/
01:50 matey; y1b is nasty
01:50 schestowitz[TR]; people talk about threats the planet faces from asteroids and the sun
01:50 schestowitz[TR]; but mass extinction won't happen because of external factors
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; it's already happening
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01:51 schestowitz[TR]; work in progress
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; but humans will be last to see their numbers plunge
01:51 MinceR; well, there are at least other ways to deal with asteroids
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; like sharks
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; or whales
01:51 MinceR; but prayer is not one of them
01:51 MinceR; 02 025127 < schestowitz[TR]> but humans will be last to see their numbers plunge
01:52 MinceR; not necessarily
01:52 schestowitz[TR]; asteroids can be dealt with the same way as humans are "dealt" with
01:52 matey; well, there are at least other ways to deal with asteroids <schestowitz[TR]> like sharks
01:52 matey; asteroidnado
01:52 MinceR; we might manage to avert nuclear apocalypse and natural catastrophes, then kill each other off due to bigotry and spare even many animals
01:52 matey; stop doing syfys work for them
01:52 MinceR; or we might do a nuclear apocalypse and be survived by tardigrades and extremophiles
01:53 schestowitz[TR]; nukes will lead to famine
01:53 schestowitz[TR]; btw, they will certianly go off
01:53 MinceR; we're already drifting toward famine
01:53 schestowitz[TR]; in big numbers
01:53 schestowitz[TR]; it's just a matter of time
01:53 schestowitz[TR]; they are not going away
01:53 schestowitz[TR]; the question is when and how many
01:53 schestowitz[TR]; and where
01:53 schestowitz[TR]; many pakistan-india
01:54 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharknado
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01:54 TR Bot; Sharknado - Wikipedia
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01:54 MinceR; and i'd prefer for them to go off in the turf of the axis of evil (orcland, red china, etc.) or at least more in the turf of the axis of evil than the more-free world
01:54 MinceR; well, pakistan and india deserve each other
01:54 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: in china it would cause "supply chain" issue
01:55 MinceR; who cares
01:55 schestowitz[TR]; that's how the west "feels" it
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01:55 MinceR; red china is an enemy anyway, the sooner the west weans itself off it, the better
01:55 MinceR; and also the less resources the CPC gets to better oppress its slaves with
01:57 matey; its wing-wing
01:57 *MinceR picks up the phone
01:57 MinceR; herro?
01:58 matey; is wang there?
01:58 TR News; https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/how-to-do-train-test-split-using-sklearn-in-python/
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01:58 TR Bot; How To Do Train Test Split Using Sklearn In Python - GeeksforGeeks
01:58 matey; is wong there?
01:58 matey; very sorry, i must have wang the wong number
01:58 matey; /me heard that in high school
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.43 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
02:01 matey; i showed engrish.com to my chinese friends
02:01 MinceR; lol
02:01 TR News; VR will always be inferior to the "real thing", even if you dub it "meta" or "verse" or "augmented" etc.
02:01 matey; they thought it was hilarious, because they know japanese people cant r/l
02:01 MinceR; they probably can, just aren't used to it
02:02 matey; and they dont like japan much
02:02 MinceR; i, too, could learn to pronounce phonemes that don't exist in my native language
02:02 matey; well maybe its more accurate to say they DONT r/l
02:02 MinceR; well, the japanese language doesn't do it, that's for sure
02:03 matey; but my chinese friends thought it was hiarious
02:03 matey; /me cant do l now
02:03 MinceR; lol
02:03 matey; seriously i just didnt hit the l hard enough, but now it looks like its spreading
02:03 matey; anyway
02:03 TR News; When will our smart homes have true occupancy sensors? https://staceyoniot.com/when-will-our-smart-homes-have-true-occupancy-sensors/
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02:03 TR Bot; When will our smart homes have true occupancy sensors? - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
02:03 matey; probabry kalma
02:04 matey; engrish has "chingrish" too but its just bad translations mostly
02:04 matey; so
02:04 TR News; Spy meters https://staceyoniot.com/when-will-our-smart-homes-have-true-occupancy-sensors/
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02:05 TR News; Some UK energy suppliers started phoning to "harass" people who reject spy meters. They would have ladies phone people, telling some scripted bullshit story about "my father" and "it found something was wrong" (they insinuate there is a fault at homes without spy meters).
02:06 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=P3xNK_WFmQs
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02:06 TR Bot; Do You Have A Chinese Name? | Russell Peters - Invidious
02:06 TR News; Yay!!! "Our estimate is that sometime next year we should see some of the advanced, accurate products that will detect occupancy" https://staceyoniot.com/when-will-our-smart-homes-have-true-occupancy-sensors
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02:06 MinceR; Russell Peters ftw
02:07 TR News; "As someone who does a lot of writing, I have been asked how to write about things. I have been asked about it enough that I am documenting this here so you can all understand my process. This is not a prescriptive system that you must do in order to make Quality Content, this is what I do." https://xeiaso.net/blog/doing-a-writing
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02:07 TR Bot; Writing Coherently At Scale - Xe
02:09 matey; hes my favourite
02:09 matey; i actually have a chinese name, but im not going to use it here
02:09 TR News; "I spend a great deal of time looking for interesting topics to write about, which turns out to be a rather inefficient process. Only a small portion of the writing process is spent actually writing; most of it is dedicated towards braionstorming and research." https://blog.bithole.dev/markov.html
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02:09 TR Bot; I Have Been Made Obsolete
02:10 matey; /me can pronounce it and knows what it means
02:11 matey; i used to be able to write it, but i can still look it up
02:11 matey; as to how i got it
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02:11 matey; everyone else was chinese with a western name
02:11 TR News; Wrong approach: "If you have any comments or critiques, please share them all at the Github repo!" So you need an account at MICROSOFT? https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/the-new-learntla-is-now-online/
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02:11 TR Bot; The new learntla is now online! Buttondown
02:12 matey; i thought it was only fair, so they gave me one
02:12 matey; it means "ugly duck with sauce"
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02:12 matey; obviously im not going to say what it means here, since the same thing as saying it
02:13 MinceR; lol
02:13 TR News; Things I wish everyone knew about Git https://blog.plover.com/2022/06/29/
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02:13 TR Bot; The Universe of Discourse : Things I wish everyone knew about Git (Part I)
02:14 matey; you havent heard a woman laugh until youve heard a chinese woman laugh
02:15 matey; my friends cousin was a middle aged woman who only spoke mandarin and about 10 english words
02:15 matey; and she was completely hysterical (and fucking loud) all the time
02:15 matey; she laughed a lot
02:15 matey; not with you, generally at you
02:16 matey; but since everything was funny, you laughed with her laughing at you
02:16 matey; she thought i was too porky to be a chinese man in his prime, which has always been true
02:17 matey; ive never had an asian body type and probably never will
02:17 matey; so i learned how to say "im pregnant" in mandarin and she thought it was riot
02:17 MinceR; i haven't heard a chinese woman laugh :(
02:18 matey; the good news is it really sounds like a chinese man laughing, with generally expected change in pitch
02:19 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ITwPzduUmCw
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02:19 TR Bot; "Be A Man!" | Russell Peters - Invidious
02:23 schestowitz[TR]; i haven't heard a chinese woman laugh :(
02:23 schestowitz[TR]; the joke works better on north koreans
02:23 schestowitz[TR]; I forgot which singer it was who said it about smiles
02:24 schestowitz[TR]; lilly allen?
02:25 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smile_(Lily_Allen_song)
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02:25 TR Bot; Smile (Lily Allen song) - Wikipedia
02:25 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.imd.org/research-knowledge/articles/north-korea-the-country-that-doesnt-smile/
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02:25 TR Bot; North Korea: the country that doesn't smile - A recent testimony
02:25 schestowitz[TR]; https://nypost.com/2021/12/17/north-koreans-banned-from-laughing-as-country-mourns-kim-jong-ils-death/
02:25 TR Bot; North Koreans banned from laughing as country mourns Kim Jong Il's death
02:26 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/south-korea-went-gaga-over-a-north-korean-singer-just-wait-until-the-rest-arrive/2018/01/22/ecf39004-ff7e-11e7-93f5-53a3a47824e8_story.html
02:26 TR Bot; South Korea went gaga over a North Korean singer. Just wait until the rest arrive. - The Washington Post
02:26 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyon_Song-wol
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02:26 TR Bot; Hyon Song-wol - Wikipedia
02:27 schestowitz[TR]; us not joking is no joking matter !
02:28 MinceR; that's like "German humor is no laughing matter"
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02:30 schestowitz[TR]; das ist nicht FUNNY!!!
02:30 schestowitz[TR]; "i kill you"
02:31 TR News; GNU/Linux market share up sharply? https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
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02:31 TR Bot; Steam Hardware & Software Survey
02:31 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=03c-ZP1y-dU
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02:31 TR Bot; How BTS React to Themselves - Invidious
02:32 TR News; Steam: increase by 33% in one year for GNU/Linux on our DRM platform.
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02:32 MinceR; more likely systemd/Linux, knowing Steam OS
02:33 TR News; HDMI audio fix https://bkhome.org/news/202207/hdmi-audio-fix.html HDMI is a DRM mess better off avoided if possible
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02:33 TR Bot; HDMI audio fix
02:33 MinceR; there's a nuance
02:34 TR News; WTF is this? AWS proprietary software is NOT the way to do this. It's vendor lock-in. What happened to LinuxHint? https://linuxhint.com/configure-application-load-balancer-host-based-routing/
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02:34 TR Bot; How to Configure Application Load Balancer With Host-Based Routing
02:35 schestowitz[TR]; matey: systemDRM
02:35 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: ^
02:36 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-010722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-010722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-010722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-010722.txt
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02:36 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, July 01, 2022
02:37 matey; distro regression management
02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-010722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-010722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-010722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-010722.txt
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02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, July 01, 2022
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-010722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-010722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-010722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-010722.txt
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02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, July 01, 2022
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-010722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-010722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-010722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-010722.txt
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02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, July 01, 2022
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02:42 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-07-01.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-07-01.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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02:43 TR News; On the Web, or in general, the goal should not be seeing more things but seeing the right things. Too many false/wrong things; not information overload but dinformation overload and minformation overload
02:45 TR News; "i don't write that much anymore. not even for myself. hardly because i have nothing to say either. i guess i just don't think it matters; in the sense that a social anything comes from it. sending random words into the ether just feels like it's a waste of time and energy." gemini://tilde.pink/~maria/log/2022-07-02_impossible_choices.gmi
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03:05 TR Bot; New single-mode semiconductor laser delivers power with scalability
03:06 TR News; At the EPO, Online Means Microsoft Windows Only (Unitary Patent Also Limited to Microsoft Customers!) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/01/epo-online-means-microsoft/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/01/epo-online-means-microsoft/
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03:06 TR Bot; At the EPO, Online Means Microsoft Windows Only (Unitary Patent Also Limited to Microsoft Customers!) | Techrights
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03:50 TR News; Koch Operatives Working to Shape Patent Law in Favour of Monopolies and Oligarchs | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/01/koch-patent-law/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/01/koch-patent-law/
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03:50 TR Bot; Koch Operatives Working to Shape Patent Law in Favour of Monopolies and Oligarchs | Techrights
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04:09 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, July 01, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
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04:09 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:09 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
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04:09 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
04:31 TR News; COVID-19 Hospitalisations More Than TRIPLED During June; British Government: OK, Let's Start Hiding the Data From the Public! https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/02/covid19-tripled/
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04:31 TR Bot; Blog Archive COVID-19 Hospitalisations More Than TRIPLED During June; British Government: OK, Lets Start Hiding the Data From the Public!
04:36 TR News; "They annoy other examiners with observations on not adapted description to the claims, generic sentences they dont like in the description, formulation of computer or method claims not fully to their taste, etc." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/06/30/antonio-campinos-reappointed-president-of-the-european-patent-office/
04:36 TR Bot; Antnio Campinos reappointed president of the European Patent Office - Kluwer Patent Blog
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04:38 TR News; "You seem to complain about colleagues who are little collaborative and difficult to work with. But contrary to you, they dont post against their peers publicly. Only management does that. Battistelli had for instance said that examiners are the losers of the industry." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/06/30/antonio-campinos-reappointed-president-of-the-european-patent-office/#comment-39992
04:38 TR Bot; Antnio Campinos reappointed president of the European Patent Office - Kluwer Patent Blog
04:38 TR News; "Are you aware that EPO staff was not even allowed to demonstrate on the Office premises (contrary to Greenpeace) and was thrown away on the streets again? You should rather be shocked by what EPO management does instead of focusing on a few colleagues you despise and who make you make wrong generalizations."
04:39 TR News; "EPO rewrite the rules, those kind of patents should go straight to the bin. Instead of an EPO following the Law, they are spcialistes in bending the rules to do whatever they want, knowing that they operate in impunity." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/06/30/antonio-campinos-reappointed-president-of-the-european-patent-office/#comment-39996
04:39 TR Bot; Antnio Campinos reappointed president of the European Patent Office - Kluwer Patent Blog
04:40 TR News; "You know why it happened? Its because colleagues are pressured by the management to produce as much as possible. Your general criticism of your colleagues and your excepting the management sounds a bit arrogant and doesnt earn you much sympathy." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/06/30/antonio-campinos-reappointed-president-of-the-european-patent-office/#comment-40005
04:40 TR Bot; Antnio Campinos reappointed president of the European Patent Office - Kluwer Patent Blog
04:41 TR News; "To sum it up, I have great difficulties in following what Ferdinand has told us. It rather looks fabricated by the PR department." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/06/30/antonio-campinos-reappointed-president-of-the-european-patent-office/#comment-39993
04:41 TR Bot; Antnio Campinos reappointed president of the European Patent Office - Kluwer Patent Blog
04:43 TR News; "Lobbyists have done a good job, See the explanatory notes for the MPs before the second ratification of the UPCA." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/06/28/the-sovereigns-election/#comment-39973
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04:43 TR Bot; The Sovereign's Election - Kluwer Patent Blog
04:43 TR News; "It seems that the gifts placed at the Presidents disposal by the Mobility Package (CA 32/22) were simply too tempting for the AC to resist." EPO = crime, inc. bribery. http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/06/28/the-sovereigns-election/#comment-39960
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04:43 TR Bot; The Sovereign's Election - Kluwer Patent Blog
04:44 TR News; "Thus, whilst it seems that the EPO and the AC have heard about things such as the rule of law, principles of good governance, avoidance of conflicts of interest and the independence of the judiciary, these are not really matters that are capable of attracting (let alone retaining) their attention."
04:45 TR News; "The Ombuds office is no more than a gadget to look modern and open to new ideas. It is a body one can complain to, but the whole system is under the hierarchical control of the head of the EPO. It is even less Independent from the head of the EPO than the BA." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/06/28/the-sovereigns-election/#comment-39969
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04:45 TR Bot; The Sovereign's Election - Kluwer Patent Blog
04:46 TR News; "For unclear reasons it decided not to do anything not even when Battistelli put the house on fire during 8 years. Now the current EPO president seems often to misbehave, because he can. When he was in Alicante he did behave because under the scrutiny of Brussels, he had to."
04:46 TR News; "The EPO would not add a burden onto Brussels shoulders since it run yearly surplus. On the contrary this substantial surplus could help contribute to Brussels budget. So someone tells me why is it that Brussels turn a blind eye onto such an important IO on its territory"
04:47 TR News; "Why would Brussels throw sand in this well-oiled money-printing machine?" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/06/28/the-sovereigns-election/#comment-39985
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04:47 TR Bot; The Sovereign's Election - Kluwer Patent Blog
04:55 TR News; 10 Free Microsoft SharePoint Alternatives - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/5-free-alternatives-to-microsoft-sharepoint/ Source: maketecheasier
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04:55 TR Bot; 10 Free Microsoft SharePoint Alternatives - Make Tech Easier
04:58 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166744
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04:58 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
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05:15 TR News; "On laughably bad uses of computers in mainstream movies and shows, starting with the virus upload in Independence Day." https://tedium.co/2022/07/01/poor-computer-placement-movies-tv-shows-history/
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05:15 TR Bot; Why Bad Plot Points Involving Computers Spring Eternal
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05:15 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166745
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05:15 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
05:16 TR News; Hospitals filling up quickly https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/02/covid19-tripled/
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05:16 TR News; The EPOs special (corrupt) relationship with Microsoft is a major liability for Europe; does one need to adopt back doors and US surveillance to interact with the EPO? http://techrights.org/2022/07/01/epo-online-means-microsoft/
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05:16 TR Bot; At the EPO, Online Means Microsoft Windows Only (Unitary Patent Also Limited to Microsoft Customers!) | Techrights
05:17 TR News; Patent systems are being hijacked by monopolists and plutocrats for their financial gain and protectionism; its a longstanding issue because it begets constitutional violations http://techrights.org/2022/07/01/koch-patent-law/
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05:17 TR Bot; Koch Operatives Working to Shape Patent Law in Favour of Monopolies and Oligarchs | Techrights
05:17 TR News; With the EPO rapidly turning into a corrupt dynasty of rogue politicians, lawyers and bankers (not scientists) we must turn to constitutions and treaties that they knowingly violate with impunity http://techrights.org/2022/07/01/epo-steering-off-the-road-just-like-the-drunken-son-of-antonio-campinos-who-crashed-the-car-and-begged-for-impunity/
05:17 TR Bot; EPO Steering Off the Road, Just Like the Drunken Son of Antnio Campinos, Who Crashed the Car and Begged for Impunity | Techrights
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05:24 TR News; smolZINE: Issue 29 gemini://gemini.cyberbot.space/smolzine/smolzine-issue-29.gmi
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05:31 TR News; British Governments Coronavirus Response Plan/Strategy https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/02/root-issue-is-info/
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05:31 TR Bot; Blog Archive British Governments Coronavirus Response Plan/Strategy
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05:44 psydruid; these days even IRC channels come with extensive CoCs on Shithub
05:44 psydruid; "Programming/Computer Science Discussion & Community Chat | Be respectful and friendly. Full channel rules: https://libera-programming.github.io | Put pastes in a pastebin, e.g. https://bpaste.net https://ideone.com"
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05:44 TR Bot; irc.libera.chat ##programming -- Programming/Computer Science Discussion and Community Chat
05:44 TR Bot; Create new paste
05:44 TR Bot; Compiler and IDE >> C/C++, Java, PHP, Python, Perl and 70+ other compilers and interpreters - Ideone.com
05:45 psydruid; and the people enforcing those are shitty people themselves
05:47 *phobos (~phobos@freenode-1hp.77c.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights
05:48 psydruid; with Libera as the home of the fake free software movement
05:49 schestowitz[TR]; iirc:
05:49 schestowitz[TR]; libre.chat site hosted by github
05:49 schestowitz[TR]; managed in github
05:49 schestowitz[TR]; project also in github (not just site)
05:49 schestowitz[TR]; and github was used to try to separate the FSF from its FOUNDER
05:49 schestowitz[TR]; not because he was enabling Epstein, as Billl gates did
05:50 schestowitz[TR]; but because he called Epstein "serial rapist"
05:50 schestowitz[TR]; so they chose github
05:50 schestowitz[TR]; managed by... Microsoft
05:50 schestowitz[TR]; yes, get the iriony
05:50 schestowitz[TR]; let's take the esptein-connected proprietary hosting platform
05:50 schestowitz[TR]; to call for removal
05:50 schestowitz[TR]; of the founder of free software
05:50 schestowitz[TR]; because he called epstein "seial rapist"
05:51 schestowitz[TR]; now let's made Code of Conduct"
05:51 schestowitz[TR]; which restricts speech
05:51 schestowitz[TR]; just like Gates and Epstein wanted
05:51 schestowitz[TR]; hence they bribed people and institutions
05:51 schestowitz[TR]; such as MIT..
05:51 schestowitz[TR]; did I say MIT?
05:51 schestowitz[TR]; Oh, yes... they removed the man who called epstein "serial rapist"
05:51 schestowitz[TR]; to protect the enabler of esptein :-)
05:51 schestowitz[TR]; Nice one, MIT Libera
05:52 schestowitz[TR]; well, at least FSF and GNU didn't trust for Miceosoft GitHub Libeera to manage their channels...
05:54 TR News; "A few days ago, I received an email from someone who appears to be Perl hacker and asked me a question." https://theweeklychallenge.org/blog/perl-question/
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05:54 TR Bot; Perl Question ???
05:54 psydruid; a few days ago I told a guy to shove his CoC up his ...
05:55 TR News; COVID-19 root issue identified https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/02/root-issue-is-info/
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05:55 TR Bot; Blog Archive British Governments Coronavirus Response Plan/Strategy
05:55 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: it would have to be a very long coc... many lines of code
05:55 schestowitz[TR]; or words
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05:57 psydruid; one thing I've also noticed is that as channels moved from leenode new operators have been very ban-happy
05:58 psydruid; they surely like swinging those cocs around
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06:00 schestowitz[TR]; the slippery slope is blasphemy
06:00 schestowitz[TR]; when "offending" a religion gets you banned
06:00 TR News; PSPP 1.6.2 has bene released. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166746
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06:00 TR Bot; PSPP 1.6.2 has bene released. | Tux Machines
06:00 schestowitz[TR]; I think some CoCs jhave provisions for it
06:00 schestowitz[TR]; they "borrow" some inspiration from Shariah
06:01 schestowitz[TR]; based on misguided assumptions
06:01 schestowitz[TR]; that banning people will make people happy
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06:02 TR News; ROMA Linux laptop to feature quad-core RISC-V SoC, support Web3, NFT, cryptocurrencies, etc.. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166747
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06:02 TR Bot; ROMA Linux laptop to feature quad-core RISC-V SoC, support Web3, NFT, cryptocurrencies, etc.. | Tux Machines
06:02 psydruid; they did
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06:02 schestowitz[TR]; guest|69
06:02 schestowitz[TR]; has to be banned
06:02 schestowitz[TR]; obviously a troll
06:02 schestowitz[TR]; (not me)
06:03 schestowitz[TR]; "up to no good"
06:03 schestowitz[TR]; eentually you end up protecting superstitioooons
06:03 schestowitz[TR]; and falsehoods
06:03 schestowitz[TR]; not eliminating disinformation
06:04 schestowitz[TR]; was it someone here trying kiwiirc?
06:04 schestowitz[TR]; that was not me
06:04 schestowitz[TR]; anyway..
06:04 schestowitz removes ban on pylink-_9pfs!@*
06:04 schestowitz removes ban on pybot`!@*
06:04 schestowitz[TR]; I hope those spambots don't come back
06:04 schestowitz[TR]; the banlist is empty now
06:04 psydruid; I expect libera to just hang around for some time while people will keep migrating elsewhere, although in some instances they choose something worse such as discord
06:05 schestowitz[TR]; you sdon't suspect wrong
06:05 schestowitz[TR]; it's already happening
06:05 schestowitz[TR]; their total # of users went down in recent months
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06:05 schestowitz[TR]; https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=Libera.Chat
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06:05 TR Bot; NO TITLE
06:06 schestowitz[TR]; they peaked in january
06:06 schestowitz[TR]; oh, dear. the bots are back?
06:06 psydruid; and some operators of channels on it are deeply religious and insert talk about it in channels that don't have anything to do with it
06:06 schestowitz[TR]; https://netsplit.de/tmp/networks/stats-Libera.Chat-week-uc.png
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06:06 schestowitz[TR]; what happened there?
06:06 schestowitz[TR]; looks manipulated
06:07 schestowitz[TR]; looks like up until 3 days ago number of users barely changed
06:07 schestowitz[TR]; and then it fell all of a suddent
06:08 schestowitz[TR]; and started fluctuating as you migh expect
06:08 schestowitz[TR]; https://netsplit.de/tmp/networks/stats-Libera.Chat-year-uc.png
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06:08 schestowitz[TR]; In May they reached one-year lows
06:09 psydruid; maybe holidays
06:09 psydruid; or maybe people figured out how terrible it really is
06:09 schestowitz[TR]; it turned 10
06:09 schestowitz[TR]; 10
06:09 schestowitz[TR]; >12 months
06:10 schestowitz[TR]; or 11 months
06:10 schestowitz[TR]; and then it started falling
06:10 schestowitz[TR]; https://netsplit.de/
06:10 TR Bot; NO TITLE
06:10 schestowitz[TR]; total number stayed steady, even increased a bit
06:10 psydruid; sharia.chat
06:11 schestowitz[TR]; https://netsplit.de/networks/OFTC/
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06:11 TR Bot; NO TITLE
06:11 schestowitz[TR]; oh, I see
06:11 schestowitz[TR]; https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=OFTC
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06:11 TR Bot; NO TITLE
06:11 schestowitz[TR]; many flock to OFTC
06:11 schestowitz[TR]; some staff overlap, but not the same
06:11 schestowitz[TR]; OFTC keps growing
06:12 schestowitz[TR]; Libera does not
06:12 schestowitz[TR]; they reached 31k users
06:12 schestowitz[TR]; up from less than 20k before freenode's demise
06:13 schestowitz[TR]; https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=techrights
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06:13 TR Bot; NO TITLE
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06:15 psydruid; maybe they will when the Microsoft partnership falls through
06:15 schestowitz[TR]; I stopped caring too much about those
06:15 schestowitz[TR]; but I give freenode credit
06:15 schestowitz[TR]; its staff
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; did a good job running the network for decades
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; it's a shame they got sold to a fool
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; christel though it would help raise money
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; but it just led to conflict
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06:17 psydruid; the way channels were burnt down on Freenode looked like jihad to me
06:19 psydruid; all in order to get people to move to sharia.chat
06:20 schestowitz[TR]; no, that's not how it happened
06:20 schestowitz[TR]; the burning was done by lee and idiots who advised him
06:20 schestowitz[TR]; the turning point was banning of channels that mentioned "the other network"
06:20 schestowitz[TR]; at that point goodwill was lost
06:20 schestowitz[TR]; there were other debacles after that
06:21 schestowitz[TR]; like DB flushing, SASL etc.
06:22 schestowitz[TR]; just checked gulagtube
06:22 psydruid; it did happen like that, channels were locked down and people were kicked out
06:22 psydruid; I experienced it myself
06:22 schestowitz[TR]; seems like our good ol' friend spamnil has not invoiced another round of clickfraud for about 3 weeks now
06:23 schestowitz[TR]; maybe he knows he's being watched and doesn't want any more attention
06:24 schestowitz[TR]; maybe there are irc logs somewhere that show who made the call and why (reason specify)... to removed channels with all the people in them
06:24 schestowitz[TR]; it's like "hurry up,, GET OUT OF HERE ALREADY!"
06:24 schestowitz[TR]; maybe someone was stoned
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06:24 schestowitz[TR]; and thought it was a good idea
06:26 psydruid; scorched earth policy
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07:29 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/02/mom-and-my-brother-both-got-covid-days-before-we-were-supposed-to-go-on-vacation/
07:29 TR Bot; Mom and my brother both got COVID days before we were supposed to go on vacation. BaronHK's Rants
07:29 TR News; Criminals from Microsoft breaking the law again: "Unfortunately, challenging Microsoft (GitHubs parent company) in court is a bad idea: their legal budget probably ensures their victory" gemini://seirdy.one/posts/2022/07/01/experiment-copilot-legality/index.gmi
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07:30 TR News; Copilot comes from a CON man. Serial con man. http://techrights.org/2022/07/01/balabhadra-alex-graveley-pleads-guilty/
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07:30 TR Bot; Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XXII Mr. GitHub Copilot Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley Pleads Guilty After Assaulting Women | Techrights
07:31 TR News; The Dragonoid Chronicles gemini://ainent.xyz/fiction/the-dragonoid-chronicles/races/faerie/
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07:33 TR News; Mecrisp Stellaris Forth for RP2040: Flash and SRAM gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/tech/20220701-0.gmi
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07:33 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], "The really sad thing about my mom and brother and Donald Trump and Joe Biden is that if they absolutely insisted on dying over Donald Trumps lies, Joe Biden wouldnt know, and theyd be victims of the 2020 election conspiracies that Trump was engaged in, like the last Japanese soldier on the island who refused to admit that World War II was over, and kept shooting at people until 1973."
07:34 TR News; "I don't think those kids are ever coming back for their free dictionary. And now, there's my anger again, down my nose and through my teeth. It's the end of the line for that bus my shadow drives. So everyone off!" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1051
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07:36 TR News; "GitHub is enabling copyleft violation at scale with Copilot. GitHub Copilot encourages people to make derivative works of source code without complying with the original codes license. This facilitates the creation of permissively-licensed or proprietary derivatives of copyleft code." gemini://seirdy.one/posts/2022/07/01/experiment-copilot-legality/index.gmi
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07:37 TR News; If you pay for or use Copilot you are rewarding criminals http://techrights.org/2022/07/01/balabhadra-alex-graveley-pleads-guilty/
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07:39 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: we have similar problems here
07:39 schestowitz[TR]; people who think it's all over
07:39 schestowitz[TR]; when it is not
07:39 schestowitz[TR]; quite the opposite scenario
07:39 schestowitz[TR]; to Trump
07:39 schestowitz[TR]; https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/02/covid19-tripled/
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07:39 TR Bot; Blog Archive COVID-19 Hospitalisations More Than TRIPLED During June; British Government: OK, Lets Start Hiding the Data From the Public!
07:44 schestowitz[TR]; yuo have to remind people here, that...
07:45 schestowitz[TR]; people still die
07:45 schestowitz[TR]; or get rushed to hospitals
07:45 DaemonFC; Yeah, even the US government is admitting it's several hundred a day of COVID.
07:45 schestowitz[TR]; 10k covid patients in hospital now
07:45 schestowitz[TR]; the media acts like putler's war is the sole issue
07:45 schestowitz[TR]; not climate change
07:45 DaemonFC; Mom was saying "Oh, they just put COVID on all those death certificates so that they get money from the government.".
07:45 schestowitz[TR]; no menion of the earthquake in afghanistan... or barely
07:46 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: that's the line of Trumpsters
07:46 schestowitz[TR]; I imagine she heard it from a fellow dutertards US style (Trumptard)
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; take it from NHS data
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; tests are not increasing
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; people come to hospital
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; 3-4 times as many diagnosied wth COVID
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; in SUMMER
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; so you would start to assume, you know, that maybe it's the covid that puuts them there
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; here, all the deaths go through the hospital
07:48 schestowitz[TR]; people don't just hide and at with covid and die at home
07:48 schestowitz[TR]; they phone the NHS
07:48 schestowitz[TR]; it's free
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07:54 TR News; Weekly Updates on GCompris : 1 https://thegcomprisivy.wordpress.com/2022/07/02/weekly-updates-on-gcompris-1/
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07:54 TR Bot; Weekly Updates on GCompris : 1 The Gcompris Ivy
07:56 TR News; No, a "Pro" would NEVER use Microsoft proprietary spyware but choose better Free software instead https://trendoceans.com/manage-vs-code-from-command-line-interface/
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07:56 TR Bot; Manage VS Code from Command-Line Interface like a Pro - TREND OCEANS
07:57 TR News; This week in KDE: And now time for some UI polishing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166748
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07:57 TR Bot; This week in KDE: And now time for some UI polishing | Tux Machines
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07:59 TR News; "The app and the source code is released under the GPL 3.0 License which is is a free, copyleft license for software and other kinds of works." https://medevel.com/quit-smoking/
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07:59 TR Bot; Quit Smoking: an Android App to help Smoker Quit
08:00 TR News; "And she doesnt just attack COVID vaccines, she attacks ones that have been around for decades and prevent some pretty terrible stuff, like Hepatitis A and B, and Pneumococcal Pneumonia." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/02/mom-and-my-brother-both-got-covid-days-before-we-were-supposed-to-go-on-vacation/
08:00 TR Bot; Mom and my brother both got COVID days before we were supposed to go on vacation. BaronHK's Rants
08:00 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166749
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08:00 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
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08:24 psydruid; This crap again
08:25 psydruid; Bill Gates's CoC is bigger than your CoC, so just let him be your Copilot
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08:46 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Friday, July 01, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/irc-log-010722/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/02/irc-log-010722/
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08:46 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Friday, July 01, 2022 | Techrights
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09:16 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166750
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09:16 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
09:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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09:50 TR News; Walking Like the Talking, Acting Like Ones Preaching | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/walking-the-walk/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/02/walking-the-walk/
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09:50 TR Bot; Walking Like the Talking, Acting Like Ones Preaching | Techrights
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10:01 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166751
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10:01 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
10:02 TR News; The Dungeon Map is not the Dungeon Territory gemini://idiomdrottning.org/mapping
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10:03 TR News; Providing Meaningful Search Results Without Own Index? gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-02-providing-meaningful-search-results-without-own-index.gmi DuckDuckGo is a Microsoft scam http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo
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10:03 TR Bot; DuckDuckGo - Techrights
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10:11 TR News; "The problem of choosing between your N things is often considered sufficiently hard for people to deal with that systems go well out of their way in order to turn N things back into one as far as you're concerned." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/OneIsEasierThanMore | Source: uni Toronto
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10:11 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/OneIsEasierThanMore
10:11 TR News; "For other distributions, the use of scp remains debatable. Considering the looming uncertainty, it will be wise to start moving to rsync." https://itsfoss.com/deprecated-linux-commands/ | Source: Its FOSS
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10:11 TR Bot; Deprecated Linux Commands You Should Not Use Anymore (And Their Alternatives) - It's FOSS
10:12 TR News; Porting Doom to Helios https://drewdevault.com/2022/07/01/Porting-DOOM-to-Helios.html | Source: Drew DeVault
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10:12 TR Bot; Porting Doom to Helios
10:13 TR News; Distribution: Building a Secure Software Supply Chain with GNU Guix https://programming-journal.org/2023/7/1/ |
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10:13 TR Bot; Building a Secure Software Supply Chain with GNU Guix
10:13 TR News; "When stuck between a cheaper yet small laser cutter and splurging on a much larger one" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/30/this-large-format-laser-cutter-was-built-from-scratch-for-just-700/ | Source: Arduino
10:13 TR Bot; This large-format laser cutter was built from scratch for just $700 | Arduino Blog
10:14 TR News; "Removing the GPIO pins around the antenna was tempting because it would free up space..." https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/meet-the-engineers-behind-raspberry-pi-pico-w/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
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10:14 TR Bot; Meet the engineers behind Raspberry Pi Pico W - Raspberry Pi
10:15 TR News; "So my previous post introduced a trivial interpreter for a TCL-like language." https://blog.steve.fi/an_update_on_my_simple_golang_tcl_interpreter.html | Source: Steve Kemp
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10:15 TR Bot; An update on my simple golang TCL interpreter
10:15 TR News; "In honor of World Give Up GitHub day, heres a quick guide to how to serve up your own git repos." https://idiomdrottning.org/hosting-git-repos | Source: Idiomdrottning
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10:15 TR Bot; How to host git repos
10:15 TR News; "While some of those patches are NetBSD specific, we still need to ensure we are not breaking other operating systems." https://www.cambus.net/toolchains-adventures-q2-2022/?utm_source=atom_feed | Source: Frederic Cambus
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10:15 TR Bot; Toolchains adventures - Q2 2022 | Frederic Cambus
10:15 SomeH4x0r; techrights-news: don't relay utm_shit
10:15 TR News; "Discussion: This configuration provides a decent all-around compromise between complexity and performance." https://jpieper.com/2022/06/30/flexible-i-o-worked-examples/ | Source: J Pieper
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10:15 TR Bot; Flexible I/O: Worked examples | A Modicum of Fun
10:16 TR News; "The new Wi-Fi 6E network enables download speeds of 500-600 megabits per second even in high-density areas." https://record.umich.edu/articles/u-m-campuses-first-in-nation-to-offer-new-wi-fi-technology/ | Source: uni Michigan
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10:16 TR Bot; U-M campuses first in nation to offer new Wi-Fi technology | The University Record
10:17 TR News; When Jeffrey Epstein's enabler becomes your landlord https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2022-06-30/north-dakota-ag-clears-farmland-purchase-tied-to-bill-gates | Source: US News And World Report
10:20 TR News; Microsoft kills. "SessionManager has been used against NGOs, government, military and industrial organizations in Africa" https://securelist.com/the-sessionmanager-iis-backdoor/106868/ | Source: Kapersky
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10:20 TR News; "I agree with those who consider Copilot to be primarily an engine for violating open-source licenses" https://matthewbutterick.com/chron/this-copilot-is-stupid-and-wants-to-kill-me.html |
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10:21 TR News; "Once installed, ZuoRAT enumerates the devices connected to the infected router." https://www.wired.com/story/zuorat-trojan-malware-hacking-routers/ | Source: Wired
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10:22 TR News; "on new rules subjecting cryptocurrency transfers to the same money-laundering rules as traditional banking transfers." https://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2022/0630/No-rest-for-crypto-EU-wants-to-ensure-transparency-stability | Source: CS Monitor
10:22 TR Bot; Union positions itself to lead cryptocurrency regulation - CSMonitor.com
10:22 TR News; Yesterday, the European Parliament and the Council made a deal on the rules for crypto assets." https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/digital-cash-eu-to-end-anonymous-payments-in-cryptocurrencies/ | Source: Patrick Breyer
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10:22 TR Bot; Digital cash: EU to end anonymous payments in cryptocurrencies Patrick Breyer
10:22 TR News; "Transfers of crypto-assets will be traced and identified to prevent money laundering, terrorist financing" https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220627IPR33919/crypto-assets-deal-on-new-rules-to-stop-illicit-flows-in-the-eu | Source: European Parliament
10:22 TR Bot; Crypto assets: deal on new rules to stop illicit flows in the EU | News | European Parliament
10:23 TR News; "Were also moving to a new area, and the local community has a Facebook group." https://kevq.uk/whats-the-point/ | Source: Kev Quirk
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10:23 TR Bot; What's the Point? - Kev Quirk
10:23 TR News; "TrustPid allows mobile carriers to generate pseudo-anonymous tokens based on a users IP address" https://www.wired.com/story/trustpid-digital-token-supercookie/ | Source: Wired
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10:23 TR Bot; Have Privacy Experts Sounding the Alarm | WIRED
10:24 TR News; "German news website netzpolitik.org leaked a record of internal discussions regarding the EUs proposed online child abuse law" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/leak-on-chat-control-eu-commission-anticipates-millions-of-false-positives/ | Source: Patrick Breyer
10:24 TR Bot; Leak on chat control: EU Commission anticipates millions of false positives Patrick Breyer
10:25 TR News; "Elena Kagan authored the dissenting opinion." https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/supreme-court-epa-climate-pollution-ruling-1376017/ | Source: Rolling Stone
10:25 TR Bot; Supreme Court Limits EPA's Ability to Regulate Climate Pollution - Rolling Stone
10:26 TR News; [Old] "From Commons to NFTs" https://www.makery.info/en/2022/04/30/english-the-real-crypto-movement/ |
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10:26 TR Bot; The Real Crypto Movement : Makery
10:28 TR News; "But the plaintiffs didnt like the district courts answer and so they appealed to the Eleventh Circuit." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/01/because-vulnerable-people-need-section-230-the-copia-institute-filed-this-amicus-brief-at-the-eleventh-circuit/ | Source: Techdirt
10:28 TR Bot; Vulnerable People Need Section 230, The Copia Institute Filed This Amicus Brief At The Eleventh Circuit | Techdirt
10:28 TR News; "The time to think about liability is nowright as AI becomes ubiquitous but remains underregulated." https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/who-is-liable-when-ai-kills/ | Source: Scientific American
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10:28 TR Bot; Who Is Liable when AI Kills? - Scientific American
10:29 TR News; "instigate cleaner and greener forms of carbon-neutral digital technology and renewable energy" https://criticaledtech.com/2022/07/01/thinking-after-the-digital-notes-on-jonathan-crary-2022/ | Source: Neil Selwyn
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10:29 TR Bot; Thinking after the digital (notes on Jonathan Crary 2022) Critical Studies of EDUCATION & TECHNOLOGY
10:30 TR News; "NetBlocks metrics confirm the disruption of internet service on multiple providers across Sudan after 8 a.m." https://netblocks.org/reports/internet-disrupted-in-sudan-amid-protests-against-military-junta-QAdPrkAl | Source: Netblocks
10:30 TR Bot; Internet disrupted in Sudan amid protests against military junta - NetBlocks
10:30 TR News; "Though it may not be fought over on the battlefield, global interconnectivity has become one of the values at stake" https://theconversation.com/kremlin-tightens-control-over-russians-online-lives-threatening-domestic-freedoms-and-the-global-internet-182020 | Source: The Conversation
10:30 TR Bot; Kremlin tightens control over Russians' online lives threatening domestic freedoms and the global internet
10:30 TR News; "Many Russians downloaded virtual private network software to try to access blocked sites and services" https://www.upi.com/Voices/2022/07/01/Russia-internet-censorship-digital-iron-curtain/2511656675489/ | Source: UPI
10:30 TR Bot; iron curtain': Russia's grip on online access threatens global Internet - UPI.com
10:30 TR News; "Ilhan Tasci, an RTUK board member from the main opposition Republican People's Party (CHP), said on Twitter on Thursday that access to DW's Turkish-language service, DW Turkce" https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/turkey-blocks-access-deutsche-welle-voice-america-licence-row | Source: Middle East Eye
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10:30 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/turkey-blocks-access-deutsche-welle-voice-america-licence-row )
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10:30 TR News; "allowed the Turkish government to censor editorial content" https://www.dw.com/en/turkish-broadcasting-authority-blocks-deutsche-welle/a-62323313 | Source: Deutsche Welle
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10:30 TR Bot; Broadcasting Authority blocks Deutsche Welle | Press | DW | 01.07.2022
10:31 TR News; "complete access blocking" https://www.voanews.com/a/turkey-blocks-access-to-voa-turkish-language-content-/6640893.html | Source: VOA News
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10:31 TR Bot; Turkey Blocks Access to VOA Turkish Language Content
10:31 TR News; "described by media outlets as an attempt at censorship" https://www.turkishminute.com/2022/06/30/turkey-blocks-access-to-turkish-editions-of-deutsche-welle-voa/ | Source: Turkish Minute
10:31 TR Bot; ( status 521 @ https://www.turkishminute.com/2022/06/30/key-blocks-access-to-turkish-editions-of-deutsche-welle-voa/ )
10:31 TR News; "Canadian courts have set their sights on online defamers. In LeBlanc v City of Fredericton, the Court of Queens Bench of New Brunswick referred to the wild west nature of the internet and the need for courts to tame online defamation" https://www.canadianlawyermag.com/news/opinion/in-trying-to-curb-online-defamation-canadian-courts-are-resorting-to-unjustified-censorship/367897 |
10:31 TR Bot; In trying to curb online defamation, Canadian courts are resorting to unjustified censorship | Canadian Lawyer
10:34 TR News; Mathieu Gorge https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/interview-with-mathieu-gorge-vigitrust/ | Source: PIA
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10:34 TR Bot; Interview With Mathieu Gorge VigiTrust
10:34 TR News; Copyrights https://goodereader.com/blog/kindle/the-amazon-shopping-app-no-longer-supports-buying-kindle-books | Source: Good E Reader
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10:34 TR Bot; The Amazon Shopping App no longer supports buying Kindle Books - Good e-Reader
10:36 TR News; "We also urge the Australian government to intervene immediately in the case to end this nightmare" https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-07-01/wikileaks-assange-lodges-appeal-against-u-s-extradition | Source: US News And World Report
10:37 TR News; Unionizing https://jacobin.com/2022/07/starbucks-union-workers-united-firing-union-busting/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
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10:40 TR News; "in the middle of Seattle, it didnt even dawn on me that that was possible" https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/seattle-comcast-internet-27k-b2113236.html | Source: The Independent UK
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10:40 TR Bot; Couple told after buying house internet would cost $27k, forced to rely on 4G hotspot | The Independent
10:40 TR News; "Currently there are 39 court cases involving AFRINIC" https://sysadmin-journal.com/supreme-court-of-mauritius-prohibits-afrinic-ceo-from-acting-as-afrinic-director/ | Source: Ish Sookun
10:40 TR Bot; Supreme Court of Mauritius prohibits AFRINIC CEO, Eddy Kayihura, from acting as AFRINIC Director
10:44 TR News; "telecom monopoly executives the world over have been trying to force big tech" [sic] (using language of Microsoft lobbyists) https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/01/big-telecom-still-wants-big-tech-to-give-them-billions-of-dollars-for-no-coherent-reason/ | Source: Techdirt
10:44 TR Bot; Telecom Still Wants Big Tech To Give Them Billions Of Dollars For No Coherent Reason | Techdirt
10:45 TR News; "the NSA may be killing Google Analytics, at least in the EU." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/01/yet-another-eu-data-protection-authority-says-google-analytics-violates-the-law/ | Source: Techdirt
10:45 TR Bot; Another EU Data Protection Authority Says Google Analytics Violates The Law | Techdirt
10:46 TR News; "Crypt of the NecroDancer from Brace Yourself Games is a truly wonderful mix of dungeon crawling and a rhythm game that released back in 2015." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/crypt-of-the-necrodancer-gets-a-big-surprise-update-with-more-to-come/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
10:46 TR Bot; of the NecroDancer gets a BIG surprise update with more to come | GamingOnLinux
10:46 TR News; "It seems at some point over the last month or two, GOG finally removed the "in progress" notice for GOG Galaxy coming to [GNU/]Linux." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/gog-finally-remove-the-false-qin-progressq-note-about-gog-galaxy-for-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
10:46 TR Bot; finally remove the false "in progress" note about GOG Galaxy for Linux | GamingOnLinux
10:46 SomeH4x0r; fuck GOG
10:46 SomeH4x0r; it used to be better
10:47 TR News; "The Raspberry Pi Foundation launched yesterday a new tiny platform based on the RP2040 silicon." https://linuxgizmos.com/raspberry-pi-pico-w-supports-wi-fi-and-starts-at-6/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
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10:48 TR News; "AK-xolotl is an upcoming rogue-lite that answers the question of: what happens if you gave an axolotl an AK?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/ak-xolotl-mixes-the-incredibly-cute-with-the-deadly-in-this-rogue-lite-shooter/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
10:48 TR Bot; mixes the incredibly cute with the deadly in this rogue-lite shooter | GamingOnLinux
10:49 TR News; "Pugstorm and Fireshine Games have announced that their game Core Keeper has managed to hit 1 million sales only a few months after entering Early Access." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/core-keeper-hits-1-million-sales-in-only-a-few-months/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
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10:49 TR Bot; Keeper hits 1 million sales in only a few months | GamingOnLinux
10:49 TR News; "Love some fast-paced first-person shooting action? Xonotic (a fork of the original Nexuiz) has a brand new release available with tons of improvements." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/free-and-open-source-arena-shooter-xonotic-085-now-available/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
10:49 TR Bot; and open source arena shooter Xonotic 0.8.5 now available | GamingOnLinux
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; SomeH4x0r: PROPRIETARY
10:49 TR News; "Two big updates have rolled out for the Steam Deck which includes an opt-in Beta SteamOS 3.3 upgrade" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/steamos-33-beta-out-plus-a-steam-deck-client-update/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
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10:49 TR Bot; 3.3 Beta out, plus a Steam Deck Client update | GamingOnLinux
10:50 SomeH4x0r; I mean, GOG Galaxy is worse than offline installers
10:51 TR News; "A PSK, or pre-shared key, is a password made up of a random string of characters while encrypting and decrypting data." https://vitux.com/how-to-generate-a-strong-pre-shared-key-on-linux/ | Source: Vitux
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10:51 TR Bot; to Generate a Strong Pre-shared Key on Linux - VITUX
10:52 TR News; iophk: and that link is MSFT Windows https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/06/the-link-between-awm-proxy-the-glupteba-botnet/
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10:52 TR Bot; The Link Between AWM Proxy & the Glupteba Botnet Krebs on Security
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10:56 TR News; Forbes 'Media' https://papersplease.org/wp/2022/07/01/sabre-and-travelport-help-the-government-spy-on-air-travelers/ | Source: Papers Please
10:56 TR Bot; Sabre and Travelport help the government spy on air travelers Papers, Please!
10:57 TR News; Canada https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/29/canada-national-police-spyware-phones-00043092
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10:57 TR Bot; national police force admits use of spyware to hack phones - POLITICO
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11:00 TR News; Microsoft https://www.bbb.org/us/nv/reno/profile/internet-service/microsoft-corporation-1166-13000282 https://www.bbb.org/us/wa/redmond/profile/computer-software-developers/microsoft-1296-501264/customer-reviews https://www.bbb.org/us/wa/redmond/profile/computer-software-developers/microsoft-1296-501264/complaints
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11:00 TR Bot; Microsoft Corporation | Better Business Bureau Profile
11:00 TR Bot; Microsoft | Reviews | Better Business Bureau Profile
11:00 TR Bot; Microsoft | Complaints | Better Business Bureau Profile
11:01 TR News; IPANDETEC https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/new-ipandetecs-report-features-isps-privacy-best-practices-and-flaws-panama | Source: EFF
11:01 TR Bot; New Ipandetecs Report Features ISPs Privacy Best Practices and Flaws in Panam | Electronic Frontier Foundation
11:05 TR News; Trademarks https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/01/u-s-appeals-court-amazon-has-to-go-to-trial-to-see-if-public-will-confuse-fire-tv-streaming-with-porn/ | Source: Techdirt
11:05 TR Bot; Appeals Court: Amazon Has To Go To Trial To See If Public Will Confuse Fire TV Streaming With Porn | Techdirt
11:06 TR News; WallStreetBets https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/01/congress-and-the-sec-are-getting-basically-everything-wrong-in-trying-to-respond-to-meme-stocks/ | Source: Techdirt
11:06 TR Bot; And The SEC Are Getting Basically Everything Wrong In Trying To Respond To Meme Stocks | Techdirt
11:08 TR News; BlixTerm https://hackaday.com/2022/07/01/blixterm-brings-full-speed-youtube-video-to-the-commodore-pet/ | Source: Hackaday
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11:08 TR Bot; Brings Full-Speed YouTube Video To The Commodore PET | Hackaday
11:09 TR News; Assange https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/01/assange-makes-final-appeal-against-us-extradition | Source: Common Dreams
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11:09 TR Bot; Assange Makes Final Appeal Against US Extradition
11:13 TR News; "Seven people behind a pirate IPTV and card-sharing operation have been sentenced to prison for fraud offenses." https://torrentfreak.com/seven-pirate-iptv-operators-sentenced-to-almost-nine-years-in-prison-for-fraud-220701/ | Source: Torrent Freak
11:13 TR Bot; Pirate IPTV Operators Sentenced to Almost Nine Years in Prison For Fraud * TorrentFreak
11:13 TR News; "With millions of dollars at stake, the legal battle over the Pulp Fiction "NFT" copyrights is heating up." https://torrentfreak.com/tarantino-doesnt-own-the-copyright-to-pulp-fiction-screenplay-nfts-220701/ | Source: Torrent Freak
11:13 TR Bot; Doesn't Own the Copyright to Pulp Fiction Screenplay NFTs' * TorrentFreak
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11:26 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Still working on that blog post a bit.
11:30 DaemonFC; "She wasnt having any of it. Shes a Christian, and its not mainline Protestantism where you just show up and theres nothing radical going on and you bring a slow cooker full of meatballs every now and then, and everyones pretty level headed like most churches in Indiana were just 25 years ago when I was a kid and lived there.
11:30 DaemonFC; In her church they believe some pretty far out stuff, like that if you grow long hair you can cast out demons and shit."
11:30 schestowitz[TR]; same one?
11:30 DaemonFC; I never remember her being this bad 20 years ago, schestowitz[TR]
11:30 DaemonFC; Yeah
11:30 schestowitz[TR]; at first I thought they caught it while on holiday
11:30 schestowitz[TR]; yor mom is classic antivaxxer
11:31 DaemonFC; She gets COVID, and can barely move and is running a 104 fever.
11:31 TR News; U.S. and U.K. intelligence services influence https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/01/how-spooks-and-establishment-journalists-are-circling-the-wagons/ | Source: Scheerpost
11:31 TR Bot; Spooks and Establishment Journalists are Circling the Wagons scheerpost.com
11:31 DaemonFC; And she still didn't want to do anything about it until I said "Okay, I hope we're not having funerals next week.".
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11:36 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I don't get it. She knows that many people get it and die.
11:36 DaemonFC; Even in her own nursing home, she watched it push several over the edge and they died.
11:36 DaemonFC; Like that woman whose son came from Kentucky when he knew he was sick, kissed his mother, and they were burying her 15 days later.
11:36 DaemonFC; COVID.
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11:37 DaemonFC; She was 95, but she was 95 and still active, for 95.
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11:37 DaemonFC; She had more than two weeks left, until her son dropped in.
11:38 psydruid; I don't know what ZOE is in the UK, but COVID numbers are getting higher again
11:38 DaemonFC; He knew he was sick so he has to jump in the car and drive from another state to kiss his mother?
11:38 psydruid; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwQp3Yc82ak
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11:38 TR Bot; https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=TwQp3Yc82ak
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11:38 TR Bot; timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=TwQp3Yc82ak )
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11:38 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/
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11:39 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com
11:39 schestowitz[TR]; for a while now
11:39 schestowitz[TR]; we're meant to pretend "it's over"\
11:39 schestowitz[TR]; for unknown reasons
11:39 schestowitz[TR]; magfic vaccines
11:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], After mom gave me Pneumococcal Pneumonia and I was sick all December and then finally got antibiotics that warded it off, I got the Prevnar 13 shot.
11:39 schestowitz[TR]; this is the worst summer
11:39 schestowitz[TR]; worse than 2021 and 2020
11:39 DaemonFC; The FDA doesn't recommend it for me, but my mom always gets things like this and then it's like "Do you want to come to Indiana and have Christmas dinner? I had a cold last month, but it's going away!".
11:40 schestowitz[TR]; tell her
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11:40 schestowitz[TR]; if you're sick, will I get your dishes too?
11:40 DaemonFC; And of course I fell for it and then I got fucking Pneumonia because it wasn't a cold and it wasn't going away.
11:40 schestowitz[TR]; or, who gets this[item in the home] if you die?
11:40 schestowitz[TR]; maybe then the coin will drop
11:41 DaemonFC; She leaves behind debts, bill collectors, and what do I do with my brother who wil lbe 30 next year, lives with her, and has never had a job.
11:41 DaemonFC; That's like a bomb waiting to go off.
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11:42 DaemonFC; Some packages from Amazon that have never been opened while she's sued by the hospitals.
11:42 TR News; The day after Russias February invasion of Ukraine, Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Mark Warner sent a letter to Google https://www.propublica.org/article/google-russia-rutarget-sberbank-sanctions-ukraine | Source: Pro Publica should disclose it takes bribes from Bill Gates, so won't cover Microsoft and Gates crimes
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11:42 TR Bot; Google Let Sberbank-Owned RuTarget Harvest User Data for Months ProPublica
11:42 DaemonFC; Everyone on her side of the family manages money like that, schestowitz[TR]
11:42 DaemonFC; I swear it's genetic.
11:42 DaemonFC; Grandma wasn't even the worst with money.
11:43 DaemonFC; My Aunt was doing things like selling her paid off and reliable car to go to Disney and then getting home two weeks later and realizing they didn't have a car and she needed to keep renting the van they went down there in to get to work and back because nobody would sign another loan for her.
11:43 DaemonFC; My parents had to go down to the supermarket and wire her mortgage payment at least once that I can remember.
11:44 DaemonFC; I'm surprised my dad did that for her. He was so tight with money that they were sleeping on the same mattress they got used 19 years prior when they got married until mom ran off with one of his tax checks and bought a new one in 1993.
11:45 TR News; Capital Gains Rate Giveaway https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/01/its-time-to-end-the-capital-gains-rate-giveaway/ | Source: Counter Punch
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11:45 TR Bot; Time to End the Capital Gains Rate Giveaway - CounterPunch.org
11:45 DaemonFC; She said it had turned into a canoe and he was using wood boards under the bed to cancel out the sagging somewhat.
11:46 DaemonFC; One of their many problems in the marriage was she was reckless with money, so he impounded her entire paycheck and wouldn't give her an allowance.
11:47 DaemonFC; Mandy gets mad that when he needs something I say "Well, tell me what you need and I'll get one for you.
11:47 DaemonFC; He gets mad, and then goes away and stops asking for it. Meanwhile, he's buying Airpods and giving them away to his work friend.
11:47 DaemonFC; If I let him at the finances, we'd be broke in a week and have nothing to show for it.
11:48 DaemonFC; He calls my mother whenever he gets angry about that.
11:48 DaemonFC; "OH THAT'S WHAT YOUR DAD DID TO ME! GIVE HIM MONEY!"
11:48 DaemonFC; She asked me yesterday if I was slow, Roy.
11:48 DaemonFC; I told her, "No, and I don't have COVID.".
11:48 DaemonFC; She got furious and hung up and then called me back later.
11:49 DaemonFC; I've got some issues, "slow" isn't one of them. I picked up on the fact that I really really did not want COVID and she didn't.....Hmmm.
11:51 TR News; "A trade advisor to the UK government has repeated a baseless claim that protests against fracking were funded by the Kremlin." https://www.desmog.com/2022/07/01/government-advisor-repeats-russia-funded-anti-fracking-protests-myth/ | Source: DeSmog
11:51 TR Bot; Advisor Repeats Russia Funded Anti-Fracking Protests Myth - DeSmog
11:51 DaemonFC; She asked what I would have done if I got sick with COVID. I said, "As soon as I felt bad, I would be at the Urgent Care getting Paxlovid the same day. Why would I be sick and in danger of being in the hospital next week and unable to look after Mandy if I had a choice to take a pill and not be sick? That's crazy talk.".
11:55 schestowitz[TR]; She asked me yesterday if I was slow, Roy.
11:55 schestowitz[TR]; slow as in?
11:57 DaemonFC; Retarded.
11:57 schestowitz[TR]; carlin used that
11:57 DaemonFC; She has to work in these jabs when I'm clearly not the problem here.
11:57 schestowitz[TR]; he said they made up this word
11:57 schestowitz[TR]; for kids usually
11:57 schestowitz[TR]; "he's slow"
11:57 schestowitz[TR]; "a bit slow"
11:58 DaemonFC; The problem is she didn't get the jabs, and now she just has to make a hail mary pass with some experimental medicine instead of an approved vaccine.
11:58 DaemonFC; Gee, that's better!
11:58 DaemonFC; That seems to be the preferred route of the Trumpsters.
11:59 DaemonFC; "I'll just wait until COVID is mopping the floor with me then get some EUA medicine from the same company that made the vaccine that's giving people the 5G."
11:59 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], "It's easier to tell a little white lie to get the Pneumonia vaccine in your 30s than it is to get Pneumonia, run into a stack of doctors who don't want to help you and tell you to go to the ER if it gets worse, and then end up with a $12,000 ambulance bill and $50,000 to the hospital when the doctor could have treated you with $15 worth of antibiotics and chose not to."
11:59 DaemonFC; I added that.
12:00 TR News; Kotonki https://hackaday.com/2022/07/01/kotonki-agricultural-vehicle-built-for-customization/ | Source: Hackaday
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12:00 TR Bot; Agricultural Vehicle Built For Customization | Hackaday
12:02 TR News; Kentucky https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/01/kentucky-supreme-court-says-warrants-are-needed-for-real-time-cell-location-pings/ | Source: Techdirt
12:02 TR Bot; Supreme Court Says Warrants Are Needed For Real-Time Cell Location Pings | Techdirt
12:03 TR News; MasterPi like the rapper Master P... don't tell nazi company ICBM... they might say "datz raysist" https://hackaday.com/2022/07/01/hackaday-prize-2022-masterpi-is-a-capable-robot-with-fancy-wheels/ | Source: Hackaday
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12:04 TR Bot; Prize 2022: MasterPi Is A Capable Robot With Fancy Wheels | Hackaday
12:04 TR News; raspberry pi https://hackaday.com/2022/07/01/hackaday-podcast-175-moonrocks-and-cockroach-chyme-a-raspberry-pi-ipad-and-a-retro-respectful-tape-deck/ | Source: Hackaday
12:04 TR Bot; Podcast 175: Moonrocks And Cockroach Chyme, A Raspberry Pi IPad, And A Retro-Respectful Tape Deck | Hackaday
12:05 TR News; They should arrest the Justices Koch money appointed, who are banning abortions https://truthout.org/articles/capitol-police-arrest-181-protesters-waging-sit-in-for-abortion-rights-in-dc/ | Source: TruthOut
12:05 TR Bot; Capitol Police Arrest 181 Protesters Waging Sit-In for Abortion Rights in DC
12:06 TR News; It's not the "Americans love guns". It's just that Americans hate other Americans. So they want guns.
12:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], That fundamentally misunderstands the problem.
12:08 DaemonFC; You have a very small number of violent armed criminals doing whatever they want.
12:08 DaemonFC; The police don't care. The prosecutors and judges let them go if they are brought in.
12:08 DaemonFC; And people are taking matters into their own hands because the government has utterly failed.
12:09 DaemonFC; https://www.fox32chicago.com/election/richard-irvin-campaign-ken-griffin-per-vote-worst-political-investment-illinois-history
12:09 TR Bot; Irvins doomed campaign for governor spent $417 per vote worst political investment in Illinois history
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; auctions
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; how much money per vote
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; in the US it's extreme
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; even presidential cycles
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; with obscene amounts in the tens of billions
12:12 DaemonFC; https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/02/world/asia/japan-covid.html
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12:12 TR Bot; Japans Secret to Taming the Coronavirus: Peer Pressure - The New York Times
12:12 DaemonFC; Meanwhile in Illinois, JB Pritzker said he had to close open air state parks due to risk of COVID spreading in them.
12:12 schestowitz[TR]; without clicking..
12:12 schestowitz[TR]; I guess they celebrate blackmailing people into experimental jabs
12:13 DaemonFC; He closed the state parks for two months.
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; even if in countries where about 90% of adults took them still strugglee with the cirus
12:13 DaemonFC; In the US, only about two-thirds of adults took them.
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; US death rates are similar to here
12:13 DaemonFC; If mom had gotten her COVID and flu shots, she'd be going through a lot less right now.
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; in england the adults are at 90%+
12:14 DaemonFC; Yeah, almost everyone dying of COVID here is a Republican.
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: depends the age group
12:14 DaemonFC; Only about 50% of them got vaccinated.
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; and she gets exposed to people
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; as a nurse
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; so she cannot properly distance
12:15 DaemonFC; If she had been masking, I doubt this would have even happened.
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; your efficacy figures
12:15 DaemonFC; She probably walked into that damned church without a mask on and got COVID from someone there who was on infection number 4.
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; are like this:
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; 2/3 got the jab
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; 1/2 of the daad are vaccinated
12:16 schestowitz[TR]; so efficacy when it comes to death prevention leaves "much to be desired..."
12:16 schestowitz[TR]; the companies should keep working at it
12:16 schestowitz[TR]; and give up on the patents
12:16 schestowitz[TR]; they are plundering
12:17 TR News; "Shock-and-Awe Judicial Coup" https://truthout.org/articles/the-us-is-in-the-midst-of-a-shock-and-awe-judicial-coup-naomi-klein/ | Source: TruthOut
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12:17 TR Bot; The US Is in the Midst of a "Shock-and-Awe Judicial Coup," Naomi Klein
12:19 TR News; It has now been about 2 years since lock-downs in the worlds Western nations were first loosened or lifted; weve thankfully taken advantage of all that commotion (persistent flux; weve not solved the underlying issues) to expand beyond and Web and become self-hosted wherever possible http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/walking-the-walk/
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12:19 TR Bot; Walking Like the Talking, Acting Like Ones Preaching | Techrights
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12:20 TR News; My week in KDE: Some Nice Stuff https://fhek.gitlab.io/en/my-week-in-kde-some-nice-stuff/
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12:20 TR Bot; My week in KDE: Some Nice Stuff
12:20 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] - Netjoin gained users: ChanServ
12:24 TR News; The secrets to writing so damned muc gemini://idiomdrottning.org/the-secrets-to-writing-so-damned-much
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12:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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12:30 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166752
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12:30 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
12:30 TR News; Games: GOG, Xonotic, SteamOS 3.3 Beta, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166753
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12:30 TR Bot; Games: GOG, Xonotic, SteamOS 3.3 Beta, and More | Tux Machines
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13:57 XRevan86; https://bellingcat.com/news/2022/06/29/russias-kremenchuk-claims-versus-the-evidence/
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13:57 TR Bot; Kremenchuk Claims Versus the Evidence - bellingcat
14:12 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/02/four-killed-in-ukraines-sloviansk-by-russias-cluster-munition-news "Four killed in Ukraines Sloviansk by Russias cluster munition"
14:12 TR Bot; .
14:12 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/02/novosibirsk-professor-arrested-over-high-treason-charges-news "Novosibirsk professor arrested over high treason charges"
14:12 TR Bot; .
14:19 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1543089661354168320 funny guy
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14:19 TR Bot; ( status 429 @ https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1543089661354168320 )
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14:19 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1543101593452683264
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14:19 TR Bot; Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Yet again, Marjorie Taylor Greene's comments are being used by Kremlin propagandists on Russian state TV. State TV host and State Duma member Evgeny Popov is interpreting her statements to mean that she wants Americans to help Putin win in Ukraine."|nitter
14:19 MinceR; "You're a funny guy, Sully. I like you. That's why I'm going to kill you last."
14:22 XRevan86; The Bellingcat's investigation missed one thing from Google Maps: https://telegra.ph/file/61bb8ede406f966ae73ba.jpg
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14:22 XRevan86; Street View actually has the view on the mall from behind.
14:22 XRevan86; Just this one photograph makes the whole camera geolocation thing mostly redundant.
14:24 XRevan86; Because one can see a part of the mall on the Kh-22 strike video, which just isn't obvious on the video itself because all the trees obscured the rest of the mall, so it just looks like a small building.
14:30 XRevan86; https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_tech/defenders_of_ukraine_shoot_down_russian_reconnaissance_merlin_vr_uav-3304.html
14:30 TR Bot; Defenders of Ukraine Shoot Down russian Reconnaissance Merlin-VR UAV | Defense Express
14:30 XRevan86; More pictures here: https://defence-ua.com/weapon_and_tech/rashiskij_eksperimentalnij_bpla_merlin_vr_rozibrali_jak_vigljadaje_tehnologichnij_proriv_rf_z_seredini_foto-7980.html
14:30 TR Bot; "-" : "" () | Defense Express
14:38 MinceR; https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/2170.html
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14:38 TR Bot; Darths & Droids
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14:46 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/07/2/7355944/
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14:46 TR Bot; Border guards discover valuable find: hundreds of gigabytes of data on Russian occupiers | Ukrayinska Pravda
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15:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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15:32 MinceR; (cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/UwfyiuT
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15:32 TR Bot; Happy Caturday dump - rimgo
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16:12 MinceR; https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2022/07/01/gom-jabbar
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16:12 TR Bot; Gom Jabbar - Penny Arcade
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16:26 TR News; SLAPP https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/01/devin-nunes-loses-yet-another-slapp-suit-this-time-in-california/ | Source: Techdirt
16:26 TR Bot; Nunes Loses Yet Another SLAPP Suit, This Time In California | Techdirt
16:27 TR News; 1st Am https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/01/court-to-litigants-a-city-taking-down-its-own-statue-doesnt-violate-your-first-amendment-rights/ | Source: Techdirt
16:27 TR Bot; To Litigants: A City Taking Down Its Own Statue Doesnt Violate Your First Amendment Rights | Techdirt
16:28 TR News; "In the past couple years, some companies and public agencies have begun to address systemic racism in the United States." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/01/so-this-is-the-freedom-we-kill-other-people-for/ | Source: Counter Punch
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16:28 TR Bot; This is the Freedom We Kill Other People For? - CounterPunch.org
16:29 TR News; Microsoft- and Bill Gates-funded ALEC https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/01/247946/ | Source: Counter Punch
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16:29 TR Bot; ALEC Turns Disinformation Into Law - CounterPunch.org
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16:36 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166754
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16:36 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
16:36 TR News; The Linux Mint Blog Monthly News - June 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166755 maybe LMDE should rebase on Devuan
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16:36 TR Bot; The Linux Mint Blog Monthly News - June 2022 | Tux Machines
16:37 TR News; Sparky news 2022/06 SparkyLinux https://sparkylinux.org/sparky-news-2022-06/ Source: sparkylinux
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16:37 TR Bot; Sparky news 2022/06 SparkyLinux
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16:59 matey; /me just thought of the ultimate greenwashing-mobile
16:59 matey; granted someones probably already done it
17:00 TR News; Proprietary Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166756
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17:00 TR Bot; Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
17:00 matey; Prius Limousine
17:00 matey; the perfect meld of greenwashing with defeating the entire purpose of environmentalism
17:00 MinceR; just get a highlander hybrid with 3 rows of seats
17:00 MinceR; if you want more room for people than what a prius has
17:00 matey; ideal for democrats (limo trucks already exist)
17:01 MinceR; limos are just flattened buses, change my mind
17:01 matey; yeah the point of this of course is excess
17:01 matey; but Environmentally Friendly(tm) excess!
17:01 MinceR; well if you want excess, there's the hummer ev
17:03 matey; suits are just jackets and trousers
17:03 matey; but theres a nuance
17:03 MinceR; :>
17:03 matey; thats my favourite joke this year
17:03 MinceR; giving it a bit more think, i'm sure there are existing german shitboxes that fit your criteria better
17:04 MinceR; taking a tacky, overpriced, unreliable alleged car and adding a plug-in hybrid system to its already overcomplicated and unreliable drivetrain just so you can get a green license plate in hungary
17:04 matey; sure but if theres anything i hate more greenwashing-mobiles, its shitty german cars
17:04 MinceR; :>
17:04 MinceR; that's the combination of both
17:05 matey; sometimes you see a non-douchebag in a bmw. bob marley had one
17:05 MinceR; s/think/thought/
17:05 matey; that's the combination of both-- ewwwwwww
17:05 MinceR; yeah, i had a cow orker who was a non-douchebag and drove a bmw
17:05 MinceR; i think he even had blinkers and used them
17:05 matey; but with an audi the odds approach 0
17:06 matey; non-douchebag audi drivers are basically a margin of error statistically
17:06 matey; there must be a "do it like a bastard" light on the console or something
17:07 matey; ive been in an audi (never driven one) many times
17:07 matey; but these were very old models
17:07 matey; and yes, the drivers were all douchebags
17:08 matey; but im going by the way the REST of them drive
17:08 TR News; Links 02/07/2022: PSPP 1.6.2 Released, Linux Mint Rejects Parts of Systemd, Lots of Politics | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/pspp-1-6-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/02/pspp-1-6-2/
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17:08 TR Bot; Links 02/07/2022: PSPP 1.6.2 Released, Linux Mint Rejects Parts of Systemd, Lots of Politics | Techrights
17:08 matey; theyre not bad cars per se
17:08 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166757
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17:09 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
17:09 MinceR; they probably are
17:09 matey; they just only attract douchebags, theyre german of course, plus the electrical system was obviously borrowed from a pug (the dog, if theres a car with that name)
17:09 MinceR; especially this one >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAhR1MLGYNU
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17:09 TR Bot; https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=KAhR1MLGYNU
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17:09 TR Bot; invidious.namazso.eu | I Crushed an Audi and a Kia with My Land Rover Defender - Invidious
17:09 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding, Mostly Raspberry Pi Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166758
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17:09 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding, Mostly Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines
17:09 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166759
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17:09 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
17:09 matey; theyre not bad cars per se
17:09 matey; they just only attract douchebags, theyre german of course, plu <- should have added THAT I KNOW OF
17:09 MinceR; in which the german "engineers" decided to use a transmission that can't take the torque the engine puts out
17:09 matey; wrong paste
17:10 matey; theyre not bad cars per se <- this one
17:11 matey; I Crushed an Audi and a Kia <- can they make a limo from it though
17:12 matey; one thing busses have on cars is-- actually i should look this up first, because someone probably did it already
17:13 matey; ha, technically will smith has one, but its not what i meant
17:13 matey; https://www.quora.com/Why-are-there-no-Double-Decker-cars-made-by-automobile-makers?share=1
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17:13 TR Bot; are there no Double-Decker cars made by automobile makers? - Quora
17:13 MinceR; probably because people don't enjoy crawling on all fours that much
17:13 matey; someones thought about it anyway
17:14 matey; probably because people don't enjoy crawling on all fours that much <- how do they staff the fsf then
17:14 matey; but the whole point is to make it twice as tall, not half
17:15 MinceR; dehomag helps
17:15 matey; and yes, its a perfectly useless idea. like the audi itself. or a nazi gnu/linux distribution
17:15 matey; (only because its nazi, other than that it has a certain... je ne sais quoi coucher)
17:15 matey; thats faux french for "a certain i dont know wtf"
17:16 matey; /me cant believe he didnt call it VOLKSLINUX
17:16 MinceR; afaict nazis prefer systemd to gnu
17:16 matey; a missed opportunity imo
17:16 matey; afaict nazis prefer systemd to gnu <- yes but you know, they have to annex it and make it Vichy GNU
17:17 MinceR; :>
17:18 matey; esr thinks hes invading poland, but actually hes france
17:18 matey; i mean, when the microsoft tanks rolled in, all osi did was surrender
17:18 matey; (osi even SOUNDS french)
17:18 matey; /me throws a croissant at esrs head
17:18 matey; he can shoot but he wont survive
17:20 matey; the e stands for eric
17:20 matey; the s stands for stable
17:20 matey; and the r stands for cough "genius"
17:23 matey; theres a bank in germany thats switching over entrely to nft
17:23 matey; but i dont think they know exactly how it works
17:23 matey; it is very easy to use at least
17:23 matey; what they do is, they scan in the money optically, then they destroy the original
17:24 MinceR; lol
17:24 matey; then to spend it, you just send the money in an email attachment, or via sms
17:24 MinceR; lol
17:24 matey; very user friendly
17:24 MinceR; what could possibly go wrong?
17:24 matey; i mean
17:24 matey; granted counterfeiting has gone up slightly
17:24 matey; but you can counterfeit physical money too, so i dont see what the big deal is
17:26 matey; systemd-btcminerd
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17:33 TR News; #HowTo Install Latest Mozilla Firefox on Linux Desktop Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166760
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17:33 TR Bot; How to Install Latest Mozilla Firefox on Linux Desktop | Tux Machines
17:33 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK5SIiJ0NRg
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17:33 TR Bot; https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=YK5SIiJ0NRg
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17:33 TR Bot; invidio.xamh.de | Coming This July: Stranger Hearings - Invidious
17:37 matey; i suppose theres nothing i dont like about stephen colbert that wasnt technically already true when i did like him
17:38 matey; the thing is though, when i liked him, bush was in office
17:38 matey; and he more or less ripped the constitution in half-- it was fair game for comedians to do the same to him
17:39 matey; now theres a democrat in office who TOOK CREDIT for writing the patriot act (bush never did that, his administration only ushered it in. which makes them traitors imo)
17:40 matey; if colbert had any honour, he would have committed seppuku during the obama years
17:40 matey; this is a world that republicans and democrats forged together
17:40 matey; bipartisan treachery
17:41 matey; if they had any honour... etc
17:41 matey; if hillary hadnt hijacked the party in 2016, trump wouldnt have gotten in
17:42 matey; roe v wade probably wouldnt be overturned
17:42 matey; she decided to roll the dice with her extremely conservative fake left platform, and lost because a lot of people would probably vote for ted bundy before hillary
17:43 matey; case in point, trump got in
17:43 matey; i mean how much difference is there really
17:43 matey; there are many women id rather see in office than hillary
17:44 matey; the democrats didnt even want her
17:44 matey; the party itself decided to veto their choice
17:44 matey; if the democratic party had any honour...
17:45 matey; it wouldnt be the democratic party
17:45 matey; at the moment i dislike the republicans twice as much as these people
17:45 matey; but theyre all scum
17:46 MinceR; 02 184206 < matey> roe v wade probably wouldnt be overturned
17:46 MinceR; how do you know that?
17:46 MinceR; didn't obama promise to put it into law, and then didn't?
17:46 matey; i mean it was there by default
17:47 matey; to get it undone was one of trumps legacies
17:47 matey; trump got in in a moment of sarah-palin-level cynicism from the democratic party
17:48 matey; hillary was probably the worst candidate they could find, given that only american-born citizens can run for that office
17:48 matey; and once again, she wasnt even the choice of democrat voters
17:48 matey; the party decided to override the voters
17:48 matey; the election was already over when they did that
17:49 matey; you take away voters chance at a general election with the primary candidate they chose
17:49 matey; fewer people will vote
17:49 matey; meanwhile shes so awful, it electrified the republicans
17:50 matey; it was the democratic party that put trump in
17:50 matey; no question about it (and ive said that for more than 5 years)
17:50 matey; we continue to see the problems that created
17:50 MinceR; so, the "republicans" had no hand in it?
17:50 MinceR; and have no responsibility for it?
17:50 matey; i definitely didnt say that
17:51 matey; but the democratic party is definitely to blame
17:51 matey; they bear at least 51% of the responsibility
17:51 matey; and republicans dont give a fuck at all
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17:51 matey; weird
17:52 matey; individually, republicans give a shit who gets in
17:52 matey; collectively, they would change the constitution to let arnold take office and not give it a second though
17:52 matey; i mean hes too old now
17:52 TR News; 4 Best Free and Open Source Elm Static Site Generators Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166761
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17:52 TR Bot; 4 Best Free and Open Source Elm Static Site Generators | Tux Machines
17:52 TR News; 13 Interesting Distributions Based on Debian Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166762
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17:52 TR Bot; 13 Interesting Distributions Based on Debian Linux | Tux Machines
17:53 matey; but if he had a chance at beating a democrat, there are enough republicans that care about nothing else
17:53 matey; some would protest, just not enoguh to make any real difference
17:53 matey; they dont care about rules, they dont have principles
17:53 matey; theyre basically the patriots in the superbowl
17:53 matey; you do whatever you have to
17:54 MinceR; 02 185334 < matey> they dont care about rules, they dont have principles
17:54 matey; a ridiculously overrated team, incidentally
17:54 MinceR; that describes every successful politician
17:54 matey; that describes every successful politician <- of course
17:54 matey; but its all relative
17:55 matey; i dont subscribe to lesser evilism
17:55 matey; thats why the last democrat i wanted to elect was al gore
17:55 matey; i wont vote for anyone who voted for the patriot act. that includes hillary, obama and trump
17:56 matey; during obamas campaign, mccains campaign got so dirty, i actually donated money to obama
17:56 matey; i technically helped him get in office (in a way about as small as voting)
17:56 matey; but i wont vote for anyone who voted for the patriot act
17:56 matey; to me that makes you a traitor
17:57 matey; everyone who has been in office since bush of course, has supported it
17:57 matey; and theyre all traitors
17:57 matey; really it includes most of the senate and congress
17:58 matey; so when people are storming the capital because they have to wear a fucking mask in some places
17:58 matey; im like really....
17:58 matey; where the fuck were you in 2001? jamming your thumb in your shit?
17:58 matey; complete hypocrites. useless.
17:59 matey; the whole party is
17:59 matey; sos the other one
17:59 TR News; Stable Kernels: 5.18.9, 5.15.52, 5.10.128, 5.4.203, 4.19.250, 4.14.286, and 4.9.321 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166763
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17:59 TR Bot; Stable Kernels: 5.18.9, 5.15.52, 5.10.128, 5.4.203, 4.19.250, 4.14.286, and 4.9.321 | Tux Machines
17:59 matey; there isnt a democrat with a chance of reelection who cant get a safe abortion if they want one
17:59 MinceR; 02 185505 < matey> i dont subscribe to lesser evilism
18:00 MinceR; so why would you want to elect anyone, why would you want to have a state
18:00 matey; the only reason this issue matters to them is it will be exploited for votes
18:00 matey; so why would you want to elect anyone, why would you want to have a state <- thats fair play
18:00 matey; the states ITSELF is lesser evilism really
18:00 matey; and really, in most instances... its not even that
18:00 matey; but worse
18:01 matey; however, its also the wrong question
18:01 matey; i dont actually WANT a state
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18:01 matey; and the only politics i support favour getting rid of one
18:01 matey; just not in a way that would never work
18:01 matey; and never has worked
18:02 matey; a 2/3 majority could in fact abolish the state without shots fired
18:02 MinceR; my point exactly
18:02 matey; but shots clearly WOULD be fired before or after that, by people who wanted to keep the state
18:02 MinceR; too bad you'll never get a majority agree to abolish the state
18:02 matey; so you have to weight those odds
18:02 MinceR; because most humans are evil and stupid
18:02 matey; too bad you'll never get a majority agree to abolish the state <- i think its possible
18:03 matey; but they wont do it by voting to abolish, for one simple reason
18:03 matey; theres the way democracy works on paper (the rules)
18:03 matey; and the way it works in real life (in practice)
18:03 matey; and they arent that stupid
18:03 matey; the rules allow it
18:03 matey; even if you did have 2/3 majority
18:03 matey; we know the rules would change before they got what they wanted
18:04 matey; so in theory, theres a real democracy
18:04 matey; in practice-- who the fuck are we kidding?
18:04 matey; trappings of democracy dont mean that the majority has a say in shit
18:04 TR News; With New Data Just in (a Couple of Hours Ago), It Seems Clear Microsoft Windows Continues to Lose Market Share in July | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/windows-rejected/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/02/windows-rejected/
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18:04 TR Bot; With New Data Just in (a Couple of Hours Ago), It Seems Clear Microsoft Windows Continues to Lose Market Share in July | Techrights
18:04 matey; i think democracy is a good thing
18:04 matey; they should give it another chance
18:05 matey; i mean the people who are standing in the way of democracy, and ruling on behalf of corporations
18:05 matey; of course you know and i know what it would take for them to do that...
18:05 matey; and so do the people who would vote to abolish the state.
18:06 MinceR; even if the majority has a say in anything, the majority is stupid and evil
18:06 matey; stupid maybe
18:06 matey; im not saying the evil is a biproduct
18:06 matey; some people are definitely evil and purely corrupt
18:06 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166764
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18:06 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
18:07 matey; other people are stupid and go along with evil. i think thats most people.
18:07 MinceR; i had the idea of just splitting the planet into an authoritarian part and a liberal part, and let people move freely between them and not to allow them to make the liberal part any less liberal
18:07 matey; in other words, most people are stupid-- but NOT evil
18:07 MinceR; but humans would probably find a way to fuck that up too
18:07 matey; they can DO evil, but only because theyre stupid. not because theyre evil
18:07 MinceR; seeing the ruscists that are "rolling coal", they'd fuck up the air too
18:07 matey; if all the ruscists in the world were laid end to end
18:07 matey; that would be fine
18:08 MinceR; afaict most humans want either to oppress others, or to be oppressed, or both
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18:08 TR News; Re: A convention for gemlog tags gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-07-02_Re__A_convention_for_gemlog_tags.gmi "My guess is that mostly Geminauts are tagging their own content for their own purposes, and they're not too bothered about anyone else's tags. But who knows."
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18:08 MinceR; and the majority is infected with some kind of religion that makes them want to either force that religion on anyone who is free of it or to kill them
18:08 matey; evil is very hard to fix
18:08 MinceR; well, it's fixing itself, in a way
18:09 matey; i think theres more hope for stupid. sometimes its curable
18:09 matey; yes, evil fixes itself, fires burn themselves out eventually
18:09 matey; but thats a terrible reason not to put out a kitchen fire
18:09 matey; systemd too will die if we do nothing
18:09 TR News; On Indexing Pages gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/2022-07-02-indexing.gmi "There has been recent discussions in Geminispace about indexing of pages..."
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18:09 matey; as roy is fond of pushing for as a "solution"
18:10 matey; also to ibm, the coup, too many other crises
18:10 matey; roy says hes an activist
18:10 matey; i think a better term is "inactivist"
18:10 TR News; "On some carriers like the german Congstar Sailfish OS can't open a working hotspot. The clients can connect to it but no connection can be made to the internet. The problem is, that the network on SFOS to carrier is IPv6 only and but must be IPv4" gemini://seydaneen.nahtgards.de/leuchtturm/dwemerartefakte/blog/2022-07-02.gemini
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18:11 MinceR; sounds comfy
18:11 matey; but there are many like him
18:11 *psydroid2 sees many cocsuckers out there
18:11 matey; everyone at the fsf for example
18:11 TR News; SpellBinding: ACEILMX Wordo: GREBE gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-07-02.gmi
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18:11 MinceR; why put an effort in anything if the world is going to hell anyway
18:11 matey; i can think of one reason at least
18:12 matey; apart from "it might work" even if the odds seem...
18:12 matey; and thats no matter how things work out
18:12 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D279.jpg
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18:12 matey; when i die i dont even have to say i tried
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18:13 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D630.jpg
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18:13 matey; its simply part of the fabric of the universe that i did my best (at a number of things. hardly at everything!)
18:13 matey; the things that mattered to me the most-- i did my best
18:13 matey; if it doesnt actually work, it will have to do
18:14 MinceR; when i die, i won't say anything anymore
18:14 MinceR; at least not with this body
18:14 matey; em, well ok when im dying, then
18:14 matey; if possible.
18:15 matey; ill know i did my best at the things that matter most
18:15 matey; (to me)
18:15 matey; second reason, and a favorite
18:15 matey; "it might work"
18:15 matey; okay, odds arent great
18:16 matey; but things worth doing often have shit odds
18:16 matey; its one of the ways in which the universe tries to be cute
18:16 matey; which im not a huge fan of but i dont make the rules
18:17 matey; third reason, and maybe the best reason of three
18:17 matey; when you try really really hard to make the world suck less
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18:17 matey; sometimes other people are inspired by it
18:18 matey; and while most people dont give two shits, compared to those few
18:18 TR News; As shown above, Windows continues its demise; theres also rapid erosion of Windows "market share" in Russia this year (Russians [are] switching to Linux) and sooner or later Windows will be just a quarter of the market (maybe by years end). http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/windows-rejected/
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18:18 TR Bot; With New Data Just in (a Couple of Hours Ago), It Seems Clear Microsoft Windows Continues to Lose Market Share in July | Techrights
18:18 matey; and a single fissioning particle isnt going to hurt a flea
18:18 matey; if you inspire a few people, and they inspire a few people, and so on and so on
18:18 matey; that has the potential to be a very powerful chain reaction
18:19 MinceR; yeah, we can see how well that worked out
18:19 matey; its not over yet
18:20 matey; im content to say when somethings done
18:20 matey; the fsf isnt coming back, stallman isnt coming back, the linux kernel will never be a force for users controlling their computing
18:20 matey; these things are over
18:20 MinceR; something did come back, though
18:21 MinceR; and that thing is fascism
18:21 MinceR; oh, also the Dark Ages
18:21 matey; /me nods
18:21 matey; its on my radar
18:21 matey; i take it as seriously as free software, but
18:21 matey; its a LONG story
18:22 matey; ive been fighting for free software since more than a decade ago
18:22 matey; free software is a subset of what i was fighting for even before that
18:22 matey; and im sincerely pissed off about whats happened to it
18:23 matey; stallman himself made it very clear theres a bigger picture, and that its only part of that picture
18:23 TR News; Wine 7.11 - PCLinuxOS https://www.pclinuxos.com/?p=5186 Source: pclinuxos
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18:23 TR Bot; 7.11 PCLinuxOS
18:23 matey; hes a green. imo thats not enough
18:23 matey; politically stallman is very well intentioned, and smarter than most democrats at least
18:23 matey; but the things he doesnt know, astound me
18:24 matey; the gaps in his education politically
18:24 matey; i dont just mean things we dont agree on, and therefore hes "wrong"
18:24 matey; i mean things he COULD know, which are simply facts, which might make us agree on more things (or not)
18:24 matey; and they colour his approach to everything political
18:24 matey; which again, i admire compared to many people
18:25 matey; but lets say everyone (progressive at least) was just like him
18:25 matey; they would get reforms
18:25 TR News; Wine 7.12 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166734#comment-34222
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18:25 matey; and the reforms would get undone again
18:25 matey; and it would be a treadmill of fake progress
18:25 TR Bot; The Wine development release 7.12 is now available. | Tux Machines
18:25 matey; obviously stallman doesnt see it that way, but i think hes mistaken
18:26 matey; he got softer ten years ago
18:26 matey; too patient, too accomodating
18:26 matey; many people do that when they near retirement age
18:26 matey; people dont believe he did because... hes stallman
18:26 TR News; Debian 9 (Stretch) Reached End-Of-Life, an Explanation of the Maintenance Model Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166765
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18:26 TR Bot; Debian 9 (Stretch) Reached End-Of-Life, an Explanation of the Maintenance Model | Tux Machines
18:27 matey; he "doesnt do that"-- but he did
18:27 TR News; FocusWriter 1.8.1 Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166766
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18:27 matey; the CORRECT thing to do, the SMART thing to do, when he got softer, around 2010
18:27 TR Bot; FocusWriter 1.8.1 Released | Tux Machines
18:27 matey; was put someone forward who was more serious about things
18:27 matey; unfortunately, i dont know of any canidates. but i did at the time.
18:27 matey; well, sort of. in 2010 my TOP choice was mako hill/
18:28 matey; :/
18:28 TR News; "Cloud data lake vendor Cloudera has announced the general availability of Apache Iceberg in its data platform." https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/01/cloudera_adopts_apache_iceberg_tables/
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18:28 TR Bot; Cloudera adopts Apache Iceberg tables to show OS commitment The Register
18:28 matey; so that wasnt great.
18:28 matey; at least he didnt sign
18:28 matey; at least he resigned rather than stay and sabotage
18:29 matey; the people who make a point about it not depending on a single person, thats a legitimate point
18:29 matey; but its also commonly made in a specious way, including by several of them
18:29 TR News; "Whenever I want to upgrade Lagrange, I'm a bit confused. It uses git submodules, CMake instead of GNU make and so it's super weird for me. I wrote myself a little shell script to handle it. I keep it in my work directory. What do you think?" gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-07-02%20Building%20Lagrange
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18:29 matey; it misses the point that you need strong people leading the movement
18:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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18:30 matey; and now there are no strong people, and the movement is as weak as a slab of tofu floating in a bucket of lukewarm water
18:30 matey; the strong voices are corporate, and the non-corporate voices are on github.
18:30 matey; its a farce
18:31 TR News; [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 2/2] drm/i915: DG2 and ATS-M device ID updates https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2022-July/300800.html Source: kernel
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18:31 TR Bot; [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 2/2] drm/i915: DG2 and ATS-M device ID updates
18:31 matey; nonetheless, stallman stayed in charge
18:31 matey; and didnt use his authority to prevent disaster
18:31 matey; and disaster came and nothing was fixed
18:32 matey; every good thing from the fsf since 2019 (including stallmans return) has been shallow, meaningless and unhelpful
18:32 TR News; Why does Vulkan outsource 1) to its competitor and 2) to proprietary software? It needs to delete GitHub. This looks really bad. It gives criminals from Microsoft too much control.
18:32 matey; i was in favour of his return, i would still be in favour of his return
18:32 matey; but like i said, you might as well wait for jesus himself
18:32 TR News; Firewalld also outsourced to Microsoft Proprietary Software Prison (GitHub). This is a suicide mission. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Firewalld-1.2-Released
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18:32 TR Bot; 1.2 Released With New Services Added - Phoronix
18:33 matey; people are still too fucking stupid to realise (even though it was said more than once BEFORE the lynch mob attacked)
18:33 matey; that the point of lynching stallman was to destroy his followers
18:33 matey; they use the term "hero worship" to say that people who agree with his positions on free software should just shut the fuck up
18:34 matey; its not hero worship, its standing against the rewriting of history to cancel the movement as a whole.
18:34 matey; but any honest person knows that
18:34 matey; like with open source, a few people will use that term innocently and naively
18:34 matey; but when they do, i just shake my head
18:35 TR News; Arduin-Row uses tinyML to improve your rowing technique | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/02/arduin-row-uses-tinyml-to-improve-your-rowing-technique/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
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18:35 TR Bot; Arduin-Row uses tinyML to improve your rowing technique | Arduino Blog
18:35 matey; they dont know what theyre talking about
18:35 matey; and they resist learning
18:35 TR News; Pain Diary: is an Open-source Pain Logger for Patients https://medevel.com/pain-diary/ "Privacy Friendly Pain Diary is licensed under the GPLv3."
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18:36 TR Bot; Pain Diary: is an Open-source Pain Logger for Patients
18:36 matey; an educated public has inertia
18:36 matey; an idiotic public has inertia
18:36 matey; it takes extra push to overcome the momentum
18:36 matey; of course herr doktor probably thinks isaac newton was an idiot
18:36 TR News; "In Packaging for Arch Linux I described the ins and outs of binary repository management and some of the issues that come with the tooling currently used by Arch Linux." https://sleepmap.de/2022/managing-binary-package-repositories/
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18:36 TR Bot; Managing binary package repositories | SleepMap
18:36 matey; (might as well, newton studied jewish mysticism)
18:37 matey; https://jewishreviewofbooks.com/articles/3215/maimonides-stonehenge-and-newtons-obsessions/
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18:37 TR Bot; Maimonides, Stonehenge, and Newtons Obsessions - Jewish Review of Books
18:39 matey; hitler was interested in mysticism too, but whats the point of being a nazi (or even dfc) if you cant apply every double standard you can think of to those you consider inferior?
18:40 matey; (granted marisol is probably worse)
18:41 matey; i hold democrats to the same standards i hold republicans too. thats why they fail so miserably
18:41 matey; their only objective is to be better than shit
18:41 matey; and when your standards are that low, and you miss the mark-- congrats, youre shit
18:42 matey; covert narcissists make themselves look good by hiding their faults behind monsters who are (invariably) worse
18:43 matey; so for example, a psychopathic mother will marry a fuck-awful man as a STAGE PROP
18:43 matey; because she will always look good next to him
18:43 matey; this is the democratic party basically.
18:43 matey; and its not that the man she married isnt worse-- he is, thats the point
18:43 matey; thats why it works
18:44 matey; this is how covert narcissists get away with psychological murder while looking good
18:44 matey; they always have an effective decoy
18:44 matey; republicans are the party of overt narcissists and psychopaths
18:45 matey; democrats are the party of covert narcissists and sociopaths
18:45 matey; theres overlap. and both are hypocrites
18:48 matey; republicans want a fascist in office so they can kill more brown people and stop paying taxes (they will still get taxed, but it all goes to war so its okay)
18:48 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictures-6-16-22-8.jpg
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18:48 matey; democrats want a fascist in office too, so they can use that point to get relected
18:49 matey; the only people worth taking seriously are those working to fix this cycle of bullshit
18:53 matey; the coup incidentally, are covert narcissists-- no matter their political persuasion
18:53 matey; they find the worst-looking people to attack to insinuate that theyre better
18:53 matey; but the criteria that makes them better are adherence to their own authority
18:53 matey; its damnably circular in logic, its completely self-serving
18:54 matey; theyre against hero worship because it interferes with their self-worship
18:54 matey; these are terrible people-- and their supporters are not all as terrible
18:54 matey; the coup is basically the same thing as open source
18:55 matey; it may raise the fsf banner, just like esr raises an american flag (or whatever the fuck he raises)
18:55 matey; it has the same motives, tactics and enemies as open source.
18:55 matey; it has similar goals, but says "free software"
18:56 matey; its vichy free software
18:56 matey; the coup acts superficially left wing but allies itself with corporate hegemony
18:56 matey; the fake left has been doing that for 100 years
18:57 matey; they claim to be the revolution, when theyre part of the counterrevolution
18:58 matey; and just like open source really only serves corporations, no matter where it throws the scraps from its table
18:58 matey; the coup only serves itself, not free software
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
18:59 TR News; Xonotic 0.8.5 Release Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166767
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18:59 TR Bot; Xonotic 0.8.5 Release | Tux Machines
18:59 matey; i wish roy could figure out that whats happening to the fsf (thanks to the coup)
18:59 matey; is exactly the same as what happened to the linux brand (thanks to lf)
18:59 schestowitz[TR]; it's different
18:59 matey; the linux brand means nothin
19:00 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> it's different <- bullshit
19:00 schestowitz[TR]; LF coup is not the same because LF is not torvalds
19:00 matey; the fsf brand is being used to promote open source corporate takeover.
19:00 matey; period.
19:00 schestowitz[TR]; FSF was founded by RMS
19:00 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> LF coup is not the same because LF is not torvalds <- apples are not fruit because pears are.
19:01 matey; you mean fsf is not torvalds
19:01 matey; but it doesnt matter, you said nothing either way.
19:01 matey; i swear the other day you said the exact thing im saying you cant figure out is true.
19:02 matey; but it doesnt matter, because i knew you were just saying it and didnt realise it, but wanted me to think you did.
19:02 matey; now youre denying it, so once again, it doesnt matter if you said it (you didnt mean it)
19:02 matey; maybe you didnt say it. but either way, you dont get it.
19:03 matey; fsf is just another brand that stands for nothing-- hijacked the same way "linux" was
19:03 schestowitz[TR]; matey: LT was never in control of LT
19:03 schestowitz[TR]; like in OSDL
19:03 schestowitz[TR]; he reduced himself to employee
19:03 matey; using the same tactics
19:03 schestowitz[TR]; LT was always subservient to the body
19:03 matey; i said that the other day
19:03 matey; he was always a shill
19:03 matey; just not as completely as gkh
19:04 matey; not as completely as zemlin
19:04 matey; the very moment that linux had corporate potential, lt was selling out
19:04 schestowitz[TR]; FSF does not stand for nothing
19:04 schestowitz[TR]; it stands fo the GPL
19:04 schestowitz[TR]; LF attacks it
19:04 matey; the gpl is a software license
19:04 matey; fsf USED TO stand for users controlling their compting
19:05 matey; the gpl was a tool used for that purpose.
19:05 matey; now the purpose is gone, but they still defend the tool
19:05 matey; BFD
19:05 schestowitz[TR]; Torvalds made a huge mistake
19:05 matey; thats like the last person on earth defending gun rights
19:05 schestowitz[TR]; first with OSDL
19:05 matey; no ones going to take his gun away, and theres no one left to shoot.
19:05 matey; well, maybe one. but whos going to stop him
19:05 schestowitz[TR]; and others were quick to acknowledge it
19:06 matey; so what?
19:06 schestowitz[TR]; the problem is that they leaped into another
19:06 schestowitz[TR]; LF started not so bad
19:06 schestowitz[TR]; Murdock was CTO
19:06 schestowitz[TR]; over time it got a lot worse
19:06 matey; youve succeded in changing the subject, but i dont think you have a point.
19:06 schestowitz[TR]; you compred LF to FSF
19:06 matey; this was about the fsf being turned into a generic brand.
19:06 schestowitz[TR]; FSF: 2007
19:06 schestowitz[TR]; FSF 1985I mean
19:06 matey; yeah and youve nitpicked a lot of irrelevant shit
19:06 schestowitz[TR]; LF: 2007
19:06 matey; so what?
19:07 schestowitz[TR]; LF is an opportunist
19:07 schestowitz[TR]; created for opportunism
19:07 schestowitz[TR]; unlike FSF
19:07 matey; just because you can point to inconsequential differences doesnt mean you have a point
19:07 schestowitz[TR]; there are loads of differences
19:07 matey; unlike FSF
19:07 schestowitz[TR]; you keep attacking fsf like it's the worst thing ever (I know, I know... you were a paid member)
19:08 schestowitz[TR]; *paying
19:08 matey; you keep attacking fsf like it's the worst thing ever <- irrelevant straw man, also untrue
19:08 matey; i attack it like its worthless
19:08 matey; i think i make very clear that osi is still worse
19:08 matey; this isnt an election
19:08 matey; im not saying "whatever you do, dont vote for fsf and let osi win"
19:08 matey; im saying "fsf has the same platform as osi, dont be fooled"
19:08 matey; its not a vote.
19:09 matey; you dont have to support either, and theres no point in supporting either.
19:09 schestowitz[TR]; if you don't try to work with fsf, you will have zero allies
19:09 schestowitz[TR]; and you will go nowehere
19:09 schestowitz[TR]; fsf is AFR from OSI
19:09 schestowitz[TR]; and from LF
19:09 schestowitz[TR]; *FAR
19:09 matey; if you don't try to work with fsf, you will have zero allies <- well thats retarded.
19:09 matey; you dont have any allies in the fsf.
19:09 matey; there arent any.
19:09 schestowitz[TR]; ok, so..
19:09 schestowitz[TR]; who do you colalb with?
19:09 schestowitz[TR]; syne? bad
19:09 schestowitz[TR]; devuan? bad
19:09 matey; you yourself have said
19:09 schestowitz[TR]; you are working like an island
19:09 matey; the fsf doesnt have a monopoly on free sfotware
19:09 schestowitz[TR]; *dyne
19:09 matey; you just contradicted that
19:10 matey; if you don't try to work with fsf, you will have zero allies <- thats a monopoly.
19:10 SomeH4x0r; matey: btw, iirc you didn't answer my question (seen some matey on StardustNetwork yesterday, was it you?)
19:10 schestowitz[TR]; it's not
19:10 schestowitz[TR]; it's cooperation
19:10 schestowitz[TR]; it's not monopoly
19:10 matey; seen some matey <- didnt see your q
19:10 schestowitz[TR]; it's federation
19:10 schestowitz[TR]; so tell me
19:10 matey; that was me today/this week/ one day this week
19:10 schestowitz[TR]; which body IS good?
19:10 schestowitz[TR]; which can you work with?
19:10 matey; i meant to come in as the usual nick
19:10 schestowitz[TR]; bbiab
19:10 SomeH4x0r; you were ahoy there initially
19:10 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> which body IS good? <schestowitz[TR]> which can you work with? <- i dont do lesser evilism.
19:11 matey; and i explained the answer to this question here, in the past 48 hours, not for the first time.
19:11 matey; you dont get it, but that doesnt mean i havent answered it.
19:11 matey; if you were asking honest questions you would be able to answer it yourself.
19:11 matey; its tricky when you ask stupid questions
19:12 matey; you cant even tell how stupid and loaded that question is?
19:12 matey; this isnt esoteric.
19:12 matey; if you have 1% of 1% of experience with politics or activism you know why thats a stupid question
19:13 matey; youre going the wrong way around apologetics for a worthless monopoly.
19:13 matey; long way around ^
19:13 matey; but that too.
19:13 matey; when you have two non-working solutions
19:13 matey; which do you use?
19:13 matey; isnt that a dumb fucking question?
19:13 matey; how much uni do you have to go to, to spot the flaw in logic?
19:14 matey; or guess what the REAL solution is?
19:14 matey; cmon!
19:14 matey; when you have two non-working solutions-- which one do you use?
19:14 matey; you can do this!@
19:14 matey; THE THIRD OPTION, FOR FUCKS SAKE
19:14 *schestowitz[TR] back wih dinner
19:14 matey; if there isnt a third option, you MAKE ONE
19:14 schestowitz[TR]; right
19:14 schestowitz[TR]; we try
19:14 schestowitz[TR]; but we are small
19:14 matey; no we dont.
19:15 matey; other people do and you pretend... like esr...
19:15 schestowitz[TR]; I also interacted with OSI's ED for a week
19:15 schestowitz[TR]; it didn't go anywhere useful
19:15 schestowitz[TR]; so even the new ED cannot fix things
19:15 schestowitz[TR]; OSI is finished
19:15 schestowitz[TR]; stefono will take a few more salaries
19:15 schestowitz[TR]; and then disappear
19:16 matey; /me is looking for the comic
19:18 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> we try
19:18 TR News; Mite: an OO compiler for Perl http://blogs.perl.org/users/toby_inkster/2022/07/mite-an-oo-compiler-for-perl.html
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19:18 TR Bot; an OO compiler for Perl | Toby Inkster [blogs.perl.org]
19:18 matey; https://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/wp-content/images/ep013.jpg
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19:19 TR News; darktable 4.0: 3763 Days Later Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166768
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19:19 TR Bot; darktable 4.0: 3763 Days Later | Tux Machines
19:19 matey; this is you trying.
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19:20 schestowitz[TR]; ESR did write code
19:20 schestowitz[TR]; not sure how much
19:21 schestowitz[TR]; but his projects were not as influential as gnu and linux
19:21 MinceR; he wrote fetchmail
19:21 schestowitz[TR]; just take wordpress for example
19:21 schestowitz[TR]; mike little and matt mullenweg
19:21 schestowitz[TR]; matt is not a programmer
19:21 schestowitz[TR]; not originally
19:21 schestowitz[TR]; but since his teenage years (iirc) he hacked on the code
19:21 schestowitz[TR]; I don't think he still does
19:21 schestowitz[TR]; his friend from cisco did a lot of the early codinga
19:22 schestowitz[TR]; and it was a frenchman who started the projetc as b2
19:22 schestowitz[TR]; now it powers a LOT of sites
19:22 schestowitz[TR]; maybe 50 million
19:22 MinceR; also did development on gpsd
19:29 TR News; "Biometric markers such as fingerprints, the irises of one's eyes, and individual's entire faces are increasingly popular for proving identity. If criminals can steal such biometric data" https://cacm.acm.org/news/262147-cybercriminals-eye-biometrics/fulltext
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19:29 TR Bot; Cybercriminals Eye Biometrics | News | Communications of the ACM
19:32 TR News; "In the post, I list things I noticed while using the web. I use firefox only for banking, tax and looking at financial web sites." gemini://gmi.noulin.net/2022-07-02-surfing-the-web-in-2022.gmi
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19:34 TR News; How to phase out residential leasehold gemini://gemini.ucant.org/gemlog/2022-07-03_phasing-out-leasehold.gmi "Some campaigners speak loosely of "abolishing" leasehold, without stating how they want to do this."
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19:35 AdmFubar; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/rogue-hackerone-employee-steals-bug-reports-to-sell-on-the-side/
19:35 TR Bot; Rogue HackerOne employee steals bug reports to sell on the side
19:35 TR News; Oh, FFS! Just buy a washing machine that -- GASP -- beeps when it's finished and you won't need this surveillance and planed obsolescence https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/automating-washing-machine-reminders-with-home-assistant/
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19:35 TR Bot; Automating Washing Machine Reminders with Home Assistant
19:36 TR News; Insane: thinking you need ovens and microwave ovens with Internet connection and microphone! Who sells us these lies? Obviously...
19:38 TR News; Governments that spy sell us obvious lies like, if we don't get this and that spying (e.g. spy meters), it'll be a "security" risk or harm the environment. Nonsense. Absolute nonsense.
19:39 schestowitz[TR]; Despatche: "rogue"
19:39 schestowitz[TR]; AdmFubar: ^
19:39 schestowitz[TR]; having all those things centralised was a risk all along
19:39 schestowitz[TR]; it's also happening in spy agencies
19:39 schestowitz[TR]; double agents and moies
19:39 schestowitz[TR]; informants seduced by money
19:40 TR News; Darktable 4.0 Released to Celebrate 10 Years of Open Source RAW Image Editing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166769
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19:40 TR Bot; Darktable 4.0 Released to Celebrate 10 Years of Open Source RAW Image Editing | Tux Machines
19:40 AdmFubar; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-finds-raspberry-robin-worm-in-hundreds-of-windows-networks/
19:40 TR Bot; Microsoft finds Raspberry Robin worm in hundreds of Windows networks
19:46 MinceR; (cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/Cq7XTwU
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19:46 TR Bot; MY cats - rimgo
19:54 TR News; UK COVID-19 Patients in July 2022 Six Times More Than in July 2021 and Three Times More Than in July 2020 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/02/10k-patients-summertime/
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19:54 TR Bot; Blog Archive UK COVID-19 Patients in July 2022 Six Times More Than in July 2021 and Three Times More Than in July 2020
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20:07 AdmFubar; https://www.rawstory.com/so-this-is-how-it-feels-when-the-robots-come-for-your-job-what-githubs-copilot-ai-assistant-means-for-coders/
20:07 TR Bot; So this is how it feels when the robots come for your job: what GitHubs Copilot AI assistant means for coders - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism
20:21 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictures-6-16-22-14.jpg
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20:42 schestowitz[TR]; AdmFubar: it's not robots
20:42 schestowitz[TR]; it is plagiarism
20:42 schestowitz[TR]; rawstory running shallow pieces for msft
20:50 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/07/2/7356018/
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20:50 TR Bot; Lukashenko accused Ukraine of shelling Belarus and ordered to ''put? opponents? capitals ?at gunpoint? | Ukrayinska Pravda
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20:55 schestowitz[TR]; EPO's make
20:55 schestowitz[TR]; Lukastelli
20:55 TR News; Copyleft is Still Better and More Suitable for Business | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/why-copyleft-is-better/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/02/why-copyleft-is-better/
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20:55 TR Bot; Copyleft is Still Better and More Suitable for Business | Techrights
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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21:02 AdmFubar; https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/02/a-usb-standard-for-satellites-slingshot-1-takes-to-orbit-to-test-one/
21:02 TR Bot; USB standard for satellites? Slingshot 1 takes to orbit to test one TechCrunch
21:03 AdmFubar; trust me it is robots..
21:04 AdmFubar; everyone's job will go away eventually
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21:11 schestowitz[TR]; they takle people's jobs away
21:11 schestowitz[TR]; then lookign for exsuises
21:11 schestowitz[TR]; robots
21:11 schestowitz[TR]; hey hi
21:12 schestowitz[TR]; "talet sortage"
21:12 schestowitz[TR]; laziness
21:12 schestowitz[TR]; "great resignation"
21:12 schestowitz[TR]; in rreality many people crave jobs
21:12 schestowitz[TR]; but gave up looking
21:12 schestowitz[TR]; as hirings are too few
21:12 schestowitz[TR]; and salaries low
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21:17 TR News; This month in Norway GNU/Linux share is over 8% https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/norway/#monthly-200901-202207
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21:17 TR Bot; Desktop Operating System Market Share Norway | Statcounter Global Stats
21:17 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/UberEATS/comments/pqa6w6/being_charged_for_a_cancelled_order/
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21:17 TR Bot; Being Charged for a Cancelled Order : UberEATS
21:17 schestowitz[TR]; hae mercy on uber
21:17 schestowitz[TR]; they lose so much money
21:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], UberEats apparently cancels your order due to no driver picking it up and bills you anyway after raising menu prices so much you may as well have driven to the restaurant.
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; learn to cook
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; or marry someone who did ;)
21:20 CrystalMath; i agree with schestowitz
21:21 schestowitz[TR]; one perso in the household
21:21 schestowitz[TR]; so you have more skillsets
21:23 TR News; Finland Turns 18 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/finland-share-summer-2022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/02/finland-share-summer-2022/
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21:23 TR Bot; Finland Turns 18 | Techrights
21:28 TR News; ttypos in quotes qt sumamry, image, title
21:28 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/05/23/clever-hidden-design/
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21:28 TR Bot; 23 Clever Designs That Were Hidden In Plain Sight
21:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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21:31 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> or marry someone who did ;)
21:31 DaemonFC; I'm making a potato casserole tonight.
21:32 DaemonFC; It's not fancy. It's basically just funeral potatoes with Potatoes O'Brien and fried spam.
21:32 DaemonFC; I don't like to make rabbit food. I told my doctor that.
21:33 schestowitz[TR]; that's too simple
21:33 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], If there's a bright spot to this, my dad sat behind a desk all day, ate whatever he wanted to, smoked for 20 years, and he's still alive.
21:33 DaemonFC; He's going to be 71 in several months.
21:34 DaemonFC; I was talking to my mom about him quitting his job and retiring at 70. He delayed Social Security to make his checks go up.
21:34 psydruid; These dinosaur corporations must be put out of business before they'll take everyone's jobs away
21:35 DaemonFC; She said, "Well, now the real punishment starts for Jan.". I said, "Yeah, because instead of just propping up her middle class lifestyle while she doesn't do anything and he's off in an apartment in Illinois, he's home with her all the time now and she can't escape him.
21:35 psydruid; People are their own worst enemies in this regard
21:36 psydruid; If ICBM can't hire new cocsuckers, they won't have much of a reason to exist
21:36 DaemonFC; Mom said, "When I was in my 30s I used to dread what would happen in 30-40 years when your dad retired and was home all the time because..." and I interrupted, and said "The only time you had any peace and quiet was when he was at work, asleep, or in his porn dungeon.".
21:37 DaemonFC; He actually always took over an entire room of the house, filled it with porn and Dungeons and Dragons games and a TV with a cable box, and he was in there all the time, except for when he got home and griped at us or came out of there and griped at us.
21:37 DaemonFC; I never thought I'd say this, but I feel sorry for Jan.
21:38 DaemonFC; But in a way, I also think it serves her right. She took over, she's wearing the pants because he's too afraid she'll ditch him too somehow and go live with relatives I guess, and she told him he wasn't "allowed" to have anything to do with his children.
21:38 DaemonFC; So she deserves to suffer with whatever bullshit he's doing now because I refuse to believe he ever became a nice person.
21:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], To not have to deal with dad too much, I devised a strategy when I was a child. Whatever homework assignment I went home with started at 5 PM, which was when he walked in the door.
21:39 TR News; After Freenodes Demise Its OFTC That’s Gaining in IRC, Not Libera.Chat | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/irc-dust-settled/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/02/irc-dust-settled/
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21:39 DaemonFC; If he thought you were busy working or doing school assignments, he usually left you alone.
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21:40 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: was he that bad?
21:40 DaemonFC; So when I was 12 years old, I had two jobs already, and by the time I was 14 I started doing freelance writing for a dotcom company as well, and I made it through two grades of high school in a single year.
21:40 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], What do you think?
21:41 schestowitz[TR]; i dunno
21:41 schestowitz[TR]; you tell me
21:41 DaemonFC; It was more about escaping him than it was about staying busy and earning money.
21:41 schestowitz[TR]; http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/
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21:42 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: it's out of control here
21:42 schestowitz[TR]; i write almost only about covid
21:42 schestowitz[TR]; we cannot go to anything other than parks and food stores
21:42 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I stuffed so much of it away in Savings Bonds that I only finished liquidating those a year or so before filing bankruptcy.
21:42 DaemonFC; To raise cash to deal with the ongoing emergency.
21:42 DaemonFC; So some of the hotel and car repair money was stuff I earned when I was a kid.
21:43 DaemonFC; It still wasn't enough. I blew through about $50,000 in loans too, as well as my regular income.
21:43 DaemonFC; And I still had to file.
21:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], My attorney at the time is now the state prosecutor.
21:44 DaemonFC; He won the last election here.
21:45 DaemonFC; As a defense attorney he was taking on clients like the woman who had her husband kidnapped and then tortured him to death with shop tools, including a blowtorch.
21:45 DaemonFC; He worked out a plea deal where she only has to serve 9 years in prison.
21:46 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> we cannot go to anything other than parks and food stores
21:46 DaemonFC; Be glad it's not Pritzker/Peckwinkle/Lightfoot.
21:46 DaemonFC; It's too dangerous to see the state parks or the botanic gardens, Roy. You may get COVID-19 from the pine trees, waterfalls, and bonsai trees.
21:46 DaemonFC; :)
21:47 DaemonFC; This proves it wasn't all about COVID.
21:47 DaemonFC; It was at least equally about control.
21:47 DaemonFC; *Preckwinkle
21:47 DaemonFC; The woman who would be Hitler.
21:47 DaemonFC; She actually styles her edicts as being from the Office of the President.
21:47 DaemonFC; Because she's the president of a county board.
21:48 DaemonFC; Granted it's a large county, but I mean, come on...
21:49 DaemonFC; She acts like she's carrying around the nuclear football and she's debating on soda taxes.
21:50 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Mandy and I are just going to go down to the condo and make the most of it. Enjoy the hot tubs and the state park and the pool and the mini golf course and everything, I guess.
21:50 DaemonFC; It really is a nice state park. I went there with John.
21:51 DaemonFC; Of course last time I got us the cheapest thing on Priceline.com and named my own price, and John woke up with his face in a huge cum stain on the motel mattress after the sheet popped off in the middle of the night.
21:52 DaemonFC; Then there was the chair I sat down in and a cloud of cat piss plumed up into the air.
21:52 DaemonFC; Don't book the La Quinta Inn.
21:53 DaemonFC; They had a pretty substantial hotel breakfast bar though. All the trimmings. Like, almost a restaurant. Weird.
21:54 DaemonFC; John's mom booked the Hilton and there was the Midget Convention and they ate everything on the breakfast bar the first day, so on the second day we raced down there and I got like three plates full of food and filled up my to go mug of coffee.
21:55 DaemonFC; Then the midgets came and got everything else about 10 minutes later.
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; what is americancuisne?
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; fry an egg?
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; sausage?
21:55 DaemonFC; Eh, whatever you want it to be really.
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; potatoes deep-dried?
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; there is an obesity problem
21:55 DaemonFC; I like the southern stuff, myself.
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; transfats due to lazy cooking
21:56 DaemonFC; Oh they deep fry everything down there, except the greens you know.
21:56 DaemonFC; Well, okra is a green and they fry that.
21:56 MinceR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cuisine
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21:56 TR Bot; American cuisine - Wikipedia
21:56 DaemonFC; You really should have some deep fried okra, Roy, with ketchup.
21:56 DaemonFC; It's one of my favorites and Golden Corral always has it.
21:57 DaemonFC; So on trip #1 to the buffet (the plates are small), I usually grab fried chicken, potatoes and gravy, fried okra, collard greens, and so on.
21:57 DaemonFC; Unless I'm in the mood for the meatloaf that day.
21:57 DaemonFC; For some reason I've always like hospital and cafeteria food.
21:58 DaemonFC; MinceR, So when Rodney McKay said that on Stargate Atlantis I laughed.
21:58 MinceR; which one
21:58 DaemonFC; The thing about liking hospital and cafeteria food.
21:58 DaemonFC; I used to eat at the hospital every day.
21:58 MinceR; ic
21:59 DaemonFC; The Parkview Hospital cafeteria in Indiana was cheap and they put out good stuff, and then John worked there so they started giving me his employee discount.
21:59 DaemonFC; So then we just stopped buying groceries entirely because it was like maybe $10 a day for both of us to eat breakfast and dinner there.
22:00 DaemonFC; It's always good. They had prime rib on Fridays and it was actually Prime Rib, not one of those crappy "oh we got the cheapest shit we could find and called it Prime Rib".
22:01 MinceR; Composite Rib
22:01 DaemonFC; Hospitals don't exist to make a ton of money on the cafeteria. They're busy bilking people out of a million dollars for the mistake of getting pregnant or needing their appendix out.
22:01 DaemonFC; They're not thinking about how to get an extra dollar out of the guy who swings by and gets a breakfast burrito and coffee.
22:02 DaemonFC; "Don't get sick, and if you do....Please die quickly!" -Congressman Alan Grayson on the "Republican Healthcare Plan"
22:02 DaemonFC; Mom was lucky that if she was going to get COVID, it happened on July 1st when her Medicare started.
22:03 DaemonFC; And not a month prior when she had the shitty $8,600 deductible health insurance plan that was "Obamacare approved" at work.
22:03 DaemonFC; That's what most people in this country deal with now thanks to Obamacare.
22:03 DaemonFC; You pay the fucking crooks like $600-800 a month.
22:03 DaemonFC; Then you get a $8,000-$10,000 deductible plan for that.
22:04 DaemonFC; Then once you blow through that, which is 100% on you, it starts paying at like 70 or 80% of the "negotiated rate".
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22:04 DaemonFC; So Trump said "You have to be hit by a tractor to use it.".
22:05 DaemonFC; Because if you're paying them $800 a month that's $9,600 a year, then you're on the hook for $10,000, then if you manage to blow through more than almost $20,000 that you, you cost them a bit of money, but you're still responsible for 20-30% of the remainder.
22:06 DaemonFC; They make a lot of money because everyone has to buy this shit and most people stay the hell away from the doctors and hospitals until they don't have a choice, which is what the deductible is there for.
22:06 DaemonFC; So it's a license to print money for the insurance people.
22:06 DaemonFC; And the poorest workers don't get mad because the government robs us to pay their health insurance.
22:07 DaemonFC; That's what it is. It's a grift, and it's the government wanting to placate enough people that there's not mass support for bringing the whole thing down.
22:07 DaemonFC; If nobody has to buy insurance, the price comes down. There's never been a case where a government mandate to buy insurance has brought the price down.
22:08 DaemonFC; In the few states where you don't legally have to get car insurance, the car insurance companies sell policies for less money to try to attract business.
22:08 DaemonFC; Even though there will be theoretically more uninsured drivers.
22:09 DaemonFC; In Illinois, they know that if a cop pulls you over with no insurance, you can go to jail for a year, so they use that to jack up the price. Suddenly you have to buy something that's only $30 a month in New Hampshire, so it's $80 for you now.
22:11 schestowitz[TR]; is grayson still active?
22:11 schestowitz[TR]; he dwindled after all those healthcare speeches
22:11 schestowitz[TR]; circa 2009
22:11 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/ajU6wyc.mp4
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22:12 schestowitz[TR]; https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=QuickFox
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22:12 TR Bot; NO TITLE
22:12 schestowitz[TR]; almost eol
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; QuakeNet had a quarter million online https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=QuakeNet
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22:13 TR Bot; NO TITLE
22:14 schestowitz[TR]; seems to be run by swedes
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.quakenet.org/staff
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22:15 TR Bot; QuakeNet IRC Network - Staff
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; "
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; QuakeNet was founded in 1997 by Garfield and Oli as an IRC network for Quakeworld players who wanted their own 'haven' from other networks."
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; turning 25 this year https://www.quakenet.org/about
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22:16 TR Bot; QuakeNet IRC Network - About QuakeNet
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; just joined our team https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6ux9si-PTck
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22:28 TR Bot; Tegos Top11 Bundesliga-Paraden - Invidious
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/ortega-moreno-video-interview-63792257
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22:28 TR Bot; Ortega Moreno: I am a modern goalkeeper
22:30 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Ortega
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22:30 TR Bot; Stefan Ortega - Wikipedia
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; "He would be called up for the squad if Manuel Neuer, Bernd Leno or Kevin Trapp had to withdraw due to injury"
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; they have fourth goalkeepers now???
22:37 psydruid; You can never have too many goalkeepers
22:38 psydruid; All of ours keep getting injured from time to time
22:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Making a simple potato casserole is getting to be too much.
22:39 TR News; "I participated in a formal debate once. Moderation, time, a judge, everything" gemini://idiomdrottning.org/debate
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22:39 DaemonFC; I went to get cornflakes for the topping, and post corn flakes are now $5.98 a box.
22:39 DaemonFC; I wanted a box of cornflakes, not a second Buick.
22:40 schestowitz[TR]; 1kg?
22:40 DaemonFC; Walmart has their Great Value for like $1.43 or something, so it was obvious which box of cornflakes I bought.
22:40 DaemonFC; 510 grams it says?
22:41 DaemonFC; Okay, so you get 714 grams of Kellogs for $5.48 or 510 grams of Great Value for $1.43.
22:42 TR News; "I've jumped around between a bunch of Linux video editors and even though some of them have there interesting quirks I've some circled back around to Kdenlive" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XuQHmUilp7k
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22:42 TR Bot; Kdenlive Is My New Old Video Editor Of Choice - Invidious
22:42 DaemonFC; If you adjust by weight then you'd pay $1.99 for that amount of Great Value.
22:43 DaemonFC; But still. $1.99 vs. $5.48?
22:43 DaemonFC; And it's not like anyone here is a big fan of corn flakes.
22:43 schestowitz[TR]; it's hopw people like mariso, class-signal
22:43 schestowitz[TR]; buying the "brands"
22:43 DaemonFC; Yes, Grandma always had Kellogs and Post and Del Monte and Bush's and all these brands.
22:44 DaemonFC; All these brands of cereal going stale and cans bulging up and expiring.
22:44 DaemonFC; What a waste.
22:44 TR News; "Watching my raspberry pi update I noticed I have nodejs 12 in them. Most systems I work on have nodejs 16 installed. I don't remember what changed ..." http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2022-Jul-3.html.en#2022-Jul-3-06:07:13
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22:44 TR Bot; Watching my raspberry pi update I noticed I have nodejs 12 in them.
22:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], It wasn't like she went to Walmart and bought some 79 cent cans of veggies and whoops one of them went bad.
22:45 DaemonFC; She went to the expensive old people store (Marsh) and got the name brand cans for $2.99 each and had whatever fit under three beds expire.
22:45 DaemonFC; Then she threw them in her Cadillac and drove them over and gave them to mom and Brian and said "Now there's nothing wrong with these! It says they expired, but they're fine!".
22:45 DaemonFC; And they're bulging.
22:46 schestowitz[TR]; "Corn flakes are produced in significant quantities at the Trafford Park factory in Manchester, England, which is the largest cereal factory in the world"
22:46 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_flakes
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22:46 TR Bot; Corn flakes - Wikipedia
22:46 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafford_Park
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22:46 TR Bot; Trafford Park - Wikipedia
22:46 schestowitz[TR]; "The new generation of container ships was too large for the Manchester Ship Canal, which led to a further decline in Trafford Park's fortunes. "
22:47 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafford_Park#/media/File:Kellogg's_bridge,Trafford_Park(cropped).jpg
22:47 TR Bot; Trafford Park - Wikipedia
22:47 TR News; First RISC-V Laptop Announced http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166747#comment-34224
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22:47 TR Bot; ROMA Linux laptop to feature quad-core RISC-V SoC, support Web3, NFT, cryptocurrencies, etc.. | Tux Machines
22:49 psydruid; maybe ARM wants the Vista market and RISC-V will be available to us
22:50 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Most of grandma's cooking was pretty good but she had two things that just flat out sucked. "Chili" and "Vegetable Soup". The chili was literally a slab of hamburger with crunchy macaroni and no seasonings, and I tried feeding it to the dog and the dog wouldn't eat it. And the Vegetable Soup was her pouring cans of vegetables into a pot and turning the burner on. It was so bland that grandpa and everybody took turns passing the
22:50 DaemonFC; hot sauce around and it didn't help no matter how much you used. And I told my dad when he asked how bad it was "It's got no flavor and it neutralizes any amount of Tabasco you put in it.".
22:50 psydruid; I haven't seen any powerful laptop with an ARM chip that wasn't locked down or generally makes running a free operating system easily doable
22:50 DaemonFC; So every time I was over there and she made that and he asked what we had for dinner, I said "Tabasco Neutralizer".
22:50 psydruid; s/wasn't/isn't/
22:51 DaemonFC; I asked mom why grandma didn't put any flavorings or stew meat in the vegetable soup and she said, "Oh, she said they have to watch their money.". I said, "My grandmother said that?".
22:51 DaemonFC; I'm surprised she didn't reverse mortgage the house and leave my cousin Aimee with $60,000 worth of expired cans.
22:52 TR News; "10,000+ in patients summertime. By now its probably 11,000+. Lets compare to past years" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/02/10k-patients-summertime/
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22:52 TR Bot; Blog Archive UK COVID-19 Patients in July 2022 Six Times More Than in July 2021 and Three Times More Than in July 2020
22:52 TR News; Copyleft does not mean one cannot make money; it just means proprietary software companies such as Microsoft stand to lose their dying empires, only to be replaced by new businesses that market and support GPL-licensed systems http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/why-copyleft-is-better/
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22:52 TR Bot; Copyleft is Still Better and More Suitable for Business | Techrights
22:53 TR News; This summer in Finland there seem to be changes http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/finland-share-summer-2022/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/finland-share-summer-2022/
22:53 TR Bot; Finland Turns 18 | Techrights
22:53 TR News; IRC 12 months after the dust 'settled' http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/irc-dust-settled/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/irc-dust-settled/
22:53 TR Bot; After Freenodes Demise Its OFTC Thats Gaining in IRC, Not Libera.Chat | Techrights
22:54 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: grnadma was building a bomb under her bed
22:54 schestowitz[TR]; all those preservatives
22:55 schestowitz[TR]; they go off
22:55 schestowitz[TR]; biological warfare
22:55 schestowitz[TR]; no nails
22:55 TR News; Pitivi GSoC Update Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166770
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22:55 TR Bot; Pitivi GSoC Update | Tux Machines
22:56 DaemonFC; Aimee said they rented a dumpster and thought they got a pretty good deal on it, until they had to pay thousands of dollars to keep having the company haul it off when it was full of crap and they had to stop for a while.
22:56 DaemonFC; They had to excavate over 60 years of grandma hoarding in that garage. I don't know why my grandfather even built a garage. He was married to her. He should have known they'd never be able to park a car in there when she got done with it.
22:58 DaemonFC; It was full of junk. Like, a lot of junk. You should have been able to fit a full sized 1972 Lincoln TownCar in that thing with plenty of room leftover for a lot more.
22:58 DaemonFC; Instead, they had 60 years of junk piled up in there, cans of spaghetti-os from 1971.
22:59 DaemonFC; The refrigerator that time forgot running with god only knows what in it.
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
22:59 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], She's crazier than hell and my mother got at least 65% of it and doesn't even realize it. It's a sore subject.
23:00 DaemonFC; If there's anything good at all about that side of the family, it came from my grandfather. He was a good and honest and decent man.
23:01 DaemonFC; He had to suffer terribly under her, and she knew that he believed that divorce was a sin, and so she used that and was mean to him from the day they got married in like 1953 to the day he died in 1998.
23:01 DaemonFC; Ruined his whole damned life.
23:01 DaemonFC; Spent all of the money he could make.
23:01 DaemonFC; She was a Maricel.
23:02 DaemonFC; I love how you get married and then they change on you.
23:02 DaemonFC; Like they're on guard until the ink is dry and then you see what you really got.
23:02 DaemonFC; It's like buying a car and hoping for the best. The finance paperwork is done. Hope you're happy with it.
23:03 DaemonFC; You know, it's "I'm tired, I have a headache. I had a busy day at work." every day, and then when it's their day off it's also "I'm tired, I have a headache, I had a rough week at work.".
23:03 DaemonFC; :)
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23:10 TR News; The 7-inch Pocket Reform Laptop Is Pure 1990s Nostalgia http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166575#comment-34225
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23:10 TR Bot; MNT Pocket Reform 7-inch modular mini laptop takes a range of Arm (and FPGA) modules | Tux Machines
23:12 TR News; "Linux has been written in the C programming language for more than 30 years but the last few years have seen a growing momentum to make the Rust programming language Linux's second Linux language." https://www.fudzilla.com/news/55058-linux-could-go-rusty-in-the-next-release
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23:12 TR Bot; Linux could go Rusty in the next release
23:12 DaemonFC; I like how they put adult humor all over Adventure Time.
23:12 DaemonFC; "You never turn into a monster when I want you to Jake. It's always 'I have a headache!'."
23:13 MinceR; :>
23:13 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/gradient
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23:13 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Gradient
23:18 TR News; We speak to Purism CEO about the Librem 5 USA smartphone Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166771
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23:18 TR Bot; We speak to Purism' CEO about the Librem 5 USA smartphone | Tux Machines
23:22 DaemonFC; If you look at the fake coins bloodbath and bankruptcy proceedings going on right now, that alone is another dotcom bubble.
23:22 DaemonFC; And Bitcoin turned out to be Flooz 2.0.
23:23 DaemonFC; With MARISOL bragging that she was getting rich off them and throwing more and more cash into the trash.
23:23 DaemonFC; Remember Flooz? There was going to be an "Internet Currency" that you could exchange USD for because online merchants weren't established to take credit cards and stuff yet?
23:23 DaemonFC; They got Whoopi Goldberg doing commercials for them.
23:24 DaemonFC; And most of their activity ended up being Russian oligarchs using it to launder money.
23:25 DaemonFC; When the company shut its doors with no warning in the middle of the night, people flooded Web forums to complain that they had a bunch of them and when they called the 1-800 number it said the line was disconnected.
23:25 DaemonFC; Bitcoin and the exchanges are just a fancy Flooz.
23:26 DaemonFC; The problem is that it got very big because people figured that it would always go up, it appealed to Libertarian cranks who thought they had something real like Gold or Silver and they didn't just from some buzzwords about it not being "legal tender" which turned out to be a problem when it lost 70% of its value and continues plummeting, and then the tax evaders started getting letters from the IRS saying "We know what you did last year and we
23:26 DaemonFC; want the money.".
23:28 DaemonFC; Ironically, people who bought Bitcoins last year have about 29 cents on the dollar today, while people who just held onto the dollar still have 91 cents even if they didn't invest it.
23:28 DaemonFC; And a full inflation-adjusted dollar if they bought inflation-backed treasury bonds.
23:29 TR News; the joy of fixing a laptop gemini://retrace.club/~hiroantag/posts/20220702_fixing_laptop.gmi "excellent Linux compatibility, and until recently a very decent battery life."
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23:29 DaemonFC; So while my sister-in-law is tearing out her hair, my Treasury Bonds have not lost a single penny.
23:29 DaemonFC; Trash from the slums of Manila who fancies herself an investor who drives a BMW. They're probably going to want that back.
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23:35 TR News; Links 02/07/2022: Debian 9 (Stretch) EOL, FocusWriter 1.8.1, and Darktable 4.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/darktable-4-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/02/darktable-4-0/
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23:35 TR Bot; Links 02/07/2022: Debian 9 (Stretch) EOL, FocusWriter 1.8.1, and Darktable 4.0 | Techrights
23:36 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166772
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23:36 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
23:36 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166773
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23:36 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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23:52 TR News; Joe Turkel, the Bartender in The Shining, Dies at 94 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/joe-turkel-dead-shining-blade-runner-1235174986/
23:52 TR Bot; Joe Turkel Dead: The Shining Bartender, Tyrell in Blade Runner Was 94 The Hollywood Reporter
23:53 TR News; You can do the same with a piece of paper and a pen https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/automate-shopping-lists-with-home-assistant/
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23:53 TR Bot; Automate Shopping Lists with Home Assistant
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