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Written by Profoundly Nerdy on 2025-02-04 at 15:09

I have an ancient #Thinkpad that just is not taking to #Gentoo well. I could probably coax it to work eventually, but I don't want to bug the Gentoo IRC channel too much. I can't get X or Wayland running. I tried an #Arch derivative which "works" but is very buggy.

I don't want #Ubuntu with it's crappy snap everywhere setup. I might fall back to #Slackware or #Debian

I just want something that has most #hamradio software in its repos and can run #Wine for #Winlink support.

[#]Linux

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Written by sebi on 2025-02-04 at 15:14

@profoundlynerdy are you sure about the snap thing? Ubuntu runs extremely well on old ThinkPads (me: 2012 machine, 24.04 tested).

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Written by Profoundly Nerdy on 2025-02-04 at 15:23

@smonff I thought that was the default mechanism now. Am I misinformed?

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Written by Rene πŸ„²πŸ„°πŸ……πŸ„°πŸ„² Schickbauer on 2025-02-04 at 16:20

@profoundlynerdy @smonff Snap is mostly used (by default) for Firefox and similar stuff.

I recommend to not use the default Ubuntu but Xubuntu (with XFCE) instead, which is much more lightweight.

It runs fine on my ~2010 Dell laptop i use for performance testing my websites.

Also, for browser i recommend Chrome over Firefox. FF Javascript engine is slow even under the best of circumstances.

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Written by Profoundly Nerdy on 2025-02-04 at 16:26

@cavac @smonff Yeah, Mint has an XFCE variant too.

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Written by Rene πŸ„²πŸ„°πŸ……πŸ„°πŸ„² Schickbauer on 2025-02-04 at 16:43

@profoundlynerdy @smonff Come to think of it, i also run XFCE on my Pi-Top (Raspberry Pi 3 laptop). It's not fast by any means, but it works well enough to open a couple of terminals and SSH into something else with a decent processor ;-)

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Written by sebi on 2025-02-04 at 16:58

@profoundlynerdy no, you aren’t, it is the default mechanism, but only for a tiny portion of softwares. Most of them are still available through the good old way. There were a lot of drama about snaps because people refuse change, but honestly it does not make much difference.

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Written by R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍡 on 2025-02-04 at 15:30

@profoundlynerdy

How ancient are we talking?

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Written by R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍡 on 2025-02-04 at 15:30

@profoundlynerdy

My X200t runs Debian and #OpenBSD quite well.

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Written by Allpoints on 2025-02-04 at 15:35

@profoundlynerdy if you're so inclined, take a look at the Mint Distro. It's Ubuntu without the Ubuntu brain damage, e.g.snap.

https://linuxmint.com/

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Written by Profoundly Nerdy on 2025-02-04 at 15:38

@allpoints Yeah, I was leaning that way. When I first moved away from Ubutnu I landed on Mint for a while.

That's not a bad idea.

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Written by Allpoints on 2025-02-04 at 17:56

@profoundlynerdy you're probably also aware that Mint has a couple of different UI spins. The ?XFCE? one works well on low end hardware. Very lightweight, graphical UI.

Good luck with the project

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Written by mountain on 2025-02-04 at 16:14

@profoundlynerdy Most distros have nix support, and nixpkgs has tons of software. If you find a minimal distro that runs well, see if it supports nix and pull in packages that way. It keeps everything in /nix, so you won’t pollute your system.

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Written by Shawnster_P β˜•οΈ on 2025-02-04 at 16:50

@profoundlynerdy I think your best bet might be Debian. I don't use it myself, but have heard the repo is very large.

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Written by Profoundly Nerdy on 2025-02-04 at 16:51

@Shawnster_P Isn't Debian server-only?

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Written by Shawnster_P β˜•οΈ on 2025-02-04 at 16:52

@profoundlynerdy no, they have desktop isos, but I find it easier to Google it rather then find it in their website lol

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Written by Mike (VK1OMG) πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ πŸ¦€ on 2025-02-04 at 20:27

@Shawnster_P @profoundlynerdy Eventuality all life turns into crabs & every laptop gets to run Debian.

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