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Written by the real raccoon Ⓥ Ⓐ on 2025-02-02 at 23:37

The way most people who are vocal about emotions talk about emotions is downright baffling to me, especially talking about emotions as though they're something that happens to you.

It's so confusing. :blobraccoonpeekderp_lt:

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Written by the real raccoon Ⓥ Ⓐ on 2025-02-02 at 23:42

And whenever I ask for clarifications, because what is described doesn't seem to fit my own experience at all, I only get vague non-answers.

It's frustrating.

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Written by the real raccoon Ⓥ Ⓐ on 2025-02-02 at 23:46

It's okay to use metaphorical shorthand instead of being overly verbose all the time, of course. But if you can't actually explain the metaphor, what makes you think it's an apt one? How can you tell you're actually conveying what you're trying to convey?

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Written by the real raccoon Ⓥ Ⓐ on 2025-02-03 at 00:19

So I guess I experience emotions differently from people who use these baffling terms and descriptions? Alright! Please explain! Please explain, so I can understand in what ways our experiences differ! I'd really like to have a better understanding of others' experiences.

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Written by nettles on 2025-02-03 at 22:25

@therealraccoon i think emotions r often v hard to put into words. language has a lot of limits imo.

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Written by the real raccoon Ⓥ Ⓐ on 2025-02-05 at 00:23

@nettles The thing is, to me, they're not. To me, emotions are something very tangible and clear.

Of course, language has a lot of limits and is always an abstraction, but that's true whether I talk about my breakfast or about my feelings regarding my breakfast.

The abstract, vague, generalized talk about emotions is where I get lost.

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Written by nettles on 2025-02-05 at 18:55

@therealraccoon personally i find that language, especially english, is harder for communicating things i sense internally like thoughts and feelings than things i sense externally like things i see, hear etc and emotions r kinda hazy rather than clear and tangible to me.

abstract, vague and generalised talk about emotions is where i get especially lost tho.

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Written by the real raccoon Ⓥ Ⓐ on 2025-02-05 at 20:54

@nettles See, and I can't even fathom how one's own emotions could be kinda hazy.

I believe you, of course, but to me that tells me that our experiences seem to be incommensurably different.

My own emotions being hazy or fuzzy, to me, would be like not knowing my thoughts. I can't fathom it. It doesn't make any sense to me.

Just like it doesn't make any sense to me to treat feelings as though they're something external.

So often, people make generalized statements about emotions that are incomprehensible to me, e.g. how important "dealing with intense emotions" is, and I'm already not understanding the meaning of the phrase.

"Intense emotions"? Is me being very happy an "intense emotion"? Why do I have to "deal" with that? That's not what is meant? So what is meant, exactly? Why can't it be explained or defined concretely?

"Dealing with" my own emotions? My emotions are an internal response to what's happening. I don't have to deal with my emotions. I have to deal with what's happening.

My emotions aren't separate from me, just like my thoughts aren't separate from me.

It seems like a lot of people have a vastly different internal experience, and it's incomprehensible to me.

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Written by nettles on 2025-02-05 at 21:16

@therealraccoon yeah i think it can be v hard to understand how the minds of others work cuz ur mind is all u have rly.

when ppl talk about "dealing with intense emotions" i think that can include emotions like joy as well as anger, sadness etc cuz if u allow those emotions to take control of ur behaviour u can be overly optimistic and it can lead to burnout. extreme highs also mean extreme lows imo. i'd rather ride my emotions than have them ride me, even if they're positive emotions.

i also think that being able to deal with ur emotions can be just as helpful as dealing with whats happening as u can't always control whats happening but u can always control ur attitude towards it.

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Written by the real raccoon Ⓥ Ⓐ on 2025-02-06 at 00:09

@nettles "cuz if u allow those emotions to take control of ur behaviour u can be overly optimistic and it can lead to burnout"

"i'd rather ride my emotions than have them ride me, even if they're positive emotions."

This is what I'm talking about. These statements make no sense to me. My emotions are not separate from me.

"Being able to deal with [my] emotions" doesn't make sense to me. There's nothing to deal with.

If I'm angry, it's a response to something awful/unjust/whatever. I don't have to deal with my anger, I have to deal with the thing that makes me angry.

My thoughts and feelings are me internally dealing with stuff. To "deal with [my] emotions" would be to respond to my own internal response, to deal with my internal dealing-with. It doesn't make any sense to me. I don't need to respond to myself. I am myself.

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Written by nettles on 2025-02-06 at 18:53

@therealraccoon i think thats a rly interesting way of conceptualising emotions i hadn't thought much about before. u being ur emotions rather than them being separate from u.

if ur emotions r u then i think u can still change as a person as i believe we're doing all the time which would mean ur responses change as well. this does make me think of the concept of "dealing with ur emotions" differently tho.

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