Part of me wonders weather the people here are only saying this doom and gloom stuff because its someone from a party that isn't theirs or its Trump specifically. Most of me believes the former and not the latter because again, all democrats want is their party to win and that's it, no other parties should have power ever and that's how they think. If there was a reasonable republican in office, they'd still say the same stuff, the sky is falling and the world is ending. #Politics, #USPol
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@gocu54 No granted I've only really been paying attention since 2000 or so, but when JW Bush was in the whitehouse I don't ever recall hearing "oh my god oh my god we're gonna die." There was a lot of, "I don't agree with his decisions," and a good bit of "he's stupid," but nothing worse than I've heard from Republicans in the past 9 years. I'm curious to know what the day to day culture was like with Reagan.
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@Fragglemuppet Sure, some of Bush's decisions were bone-headed, but its not like he was seen as Hitler. I just don't understand this.
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@gocu54 @Fragglemuppet Has someone who publically did a Nazi salute, twice! Twice! on his team, without censure. Repeatedly says things that just aren't true and have been widely and independently debunked such as widespread election fraud, which, you may notice, he didn't seem to regard as an issue when he won. He emboldens authoritarians and politics by military force everywhere. If none of that is of concern, then I dunno what to tell ya.
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@gocu54 @Fragglemuppet In short, it's Trump. People who take a stand for civil rites should be fired, climate change's a myth, if you're a star you can grab women by the crotch when you feel like it, politicians who don't like what I'm saying of a different skin colour or ancestry should go back where they came from, Trump that we take issue with. I didn't like Bush, the Iraq war was a stain on the rep of the free world, but he was no Trump.
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@JustinMac84 @gocu54 And people didn't just make up that he's a felon. That's not something you say about people you just don't like. That's a matter of record, and should be enough for anyone who respects the law.
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@Fragglemuppet @JustinMac84 I agree with you. He is a criminal and by that logic should not have been president and yet he is. I'm not saying Harris would have been better though. Marco Rubio would have been my choice.
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@gocu54 @Fragglemuppet @JustinMac84 IN my view, he shouldn't have been in the presidential race in any way, shape or form.
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@carrottop1023 @Fragglemuppet @JustinMac84 I do have to agree. I would rather we had someone else other than Trump in the race but now people have to deal with it .
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@gocu54 @carrottop1023 @Fragglemuppet Just please don't think this is the same old republicans against dems dems against republicans two-step. It isn't. I genuinely believe, right or wrong, that Trump and his backers are an existential threat to democracy, not just in America but elsewhere. I'll sit down with anyone who respects democracy, free speech and the rule of law. Otherwise, all bets are off.
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@JustinMac84 @carrottop1023 @Fragglemuppet Thank you for saying this. This is all I was trying to say and yet in many ways, I'm seen as a pro-nazi supporter when that can further from the truth.
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@gocu54 @carrottop1023 @Fragglemuppet Trouble is, I think, personally, Republicans need to come out as pro Republican and anti-Trump. Your party is tainted now. It's no longer an honest disagreement, but a deeply toxic, increasingly unstable divide. The worse it gets, the more Republicans will be tarred with his brush.
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@JustinMac84 @carrottop1023 @Fragglemuppet I agree and it will suck for generations.
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