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Written by hagen terschüren on 2025-02-01 at 11:46

this whole right wing movement in europe is so baffling to me because most eu citizens actually got to experience how much better a life can be that doesn’t focus on a single nation. we had 30 years of borderless travel. 20 years of our currency just being the same. and i just don’t understand how anyone would want to get rid of this instead of expanding these freedoms more and more.

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Written by Rita Singer on 2025-02-01 at 12:44

@hagen I'm staring particularly hard in East German. Die Mauer muss weg etc.

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Written by BlackJack on 2025-02-01 at 14:52

@bydbach I guess we are underestimating the number of people who don't use or (consciously) experience those freedoms. Or experience the wall gone, but not the freedom because they can't or don't want to travel, but on the other hand don't like all those ”other” people now coming in. Real or perceived.

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Written by Tulko on 2025-02-01 at 15:16

@blackjack @bydbach This. Anecdotal example: A guy in 50s from small town of Slovakia. As a kid he learnt Russian, no western language. When in prime years, he traveled to Croatia because that’s where he could somehow get around. After joining EU, he went to Paris or Berlin once by travel agency, got overwhelmed. His kids somehow benefit from freedoms, but for him it’s scary to travel and get outside of a comfort zone. He wants all to stay the same.

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Written by Rita Singer on 2025-02-01 at 16:39

@tulko @blackjack it's like indoor pets who can't handle the outdoors because they only see it as the thing that might kill them because they've never learnt how to navigate it. Freedom becomes the prison in that case.

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