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Written by Nolwenn Maudet on 2025-01-27 at 20:55

I just read those two blog posts with opposite vision on whether we should federate with threads and I have to say that I agree with both. :kare_sad: What's the right way to do this? Anyway, these two posts are great read for people interested in the state of the #fediverse

1-https://txt.lurk.org/on-not-scaling-lurk/

2-https://notes.neatnik.net/2025/01/framing-federation

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Written by Julien Bidoret on 2025-01-27 at 21:31

@nolwennm I fear I disagree with some points with –you guessed– Adam Newbold’s view. Especially “We’re […] preventing people from connecting with each other. Which is the entire point of a social network.” I don’t think so. More than federation, Archipélisation is a key word in my way of seing the fediverse. We don’t need to share a common global space (fedi != earth), we can live in chosen, carefully crafted, archipelagos. IMO, the post aligns with a #datalove mood I really tend to question. In my younger days, we had an expression (to describe neoliberalism): the freedom of the free fox in the free henhouse. That’s the kind of freedom I hear that this last post is asking for.

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Written by Nolwenn Maudet on 2025-01-27 at 21:59

@julienbidoret yes, I totally understand and agree with that political analysis, it also echoes the "embrace, extend and extinguish" history. But on the other hand, on a personal and social level, knowing all that we now know for how hard it is to move from a social network to another, wanting to stay within "us" also feels like militant purity. The one argument I am convinced by for now is the "we don't refuse to talk to people via email because they use gmail".

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Written by Julien Bidoret on 2025-01-27 at 22:30

@nolwennm Indeed, the loss of old (not so, but rally anchored…) habits and modes of relations can be a huge gap. But I wouldn’t say refusing Meta federation has to do with “militant purity”, and even more not “staying within us”. I met a lot of people being here, I discovered a lot of fields, ideas… Nowadays, the fediverse is really vast.

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Written by Nolwenn Maudet on 2025-01-29 at 20:25

@julienbidoret yes, I love it in here too, I definitely like the cozyness of mastodon. But still, I also long for being able to peep at my friends and colleagues' feeds but they just aren't here...

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